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celticdragongod
03-22-2026, 02:10 AM
WBI:England_IA,0.132035,0.135065,0.058454,0.046189 ,0.038469,0.021196,0.003995,0.007615,0.00634,0.006 925,-0.005196,0.006894,-0.015312,-0.011698,0.022122,0.007557,-0.01017,0.003294,0.004148,0.002251,0.006489,0.0024 73,-0.001232,0.014219,-0.000958
CNE:Anglo-Saxon,0.134311,0.131004,0.065242,0.052326,0.040007 ,0.024542,0.004465,0.008307,0.005318,0.002369,-0.004222,0.006294,-0.012487,-0.010459,0.020358,0.012065,-0.005215,0.001394,0.004776,0.006378,0.008111,0.004 204,0.001356,0.012531,0.002155
France_IA,0.126344,0.141159,0.045254,0.01938,0.040 315,0.011713,0.001175,0.002538,0.012885,0.020228,-0.004222,0.006894,-0.01442,-0.010459,0.011129,0.003978,-0.005476,0.001774,0.004148,-0.001376,0.003494,0.003091,-0.001972,0.004699,-0.000239

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01893121 WBI:England_IA
0.02194579 CNE:Anglo-Saxon
0.04841811 France_IA

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8521% / 0.01852127
75.0 WBI:England_IA
25.0 CNE:Anglo-Saxon

Figaro
03-22-2026, 02:21 AM
Distance to: Figaro
0.03765117 CNE:Anglo-Saxon
0.03801260 WBI:England_IA
0.04815425 France_IA

Target: Figaro
Distance: 3.3919% / 0.03391924
67.6 CNE
32.4 France_IA

codex
03-22-2026, 02:26 AM
Target: codex_scaled
Distance: 2.5980% / 0.02597988
88.0 CNE:Anglo-Saxon
12.0 France_IA

Distance to: codex_scaled
0.02667364 CNE:Anglo-Saxon
0.02965337 WBI:England_IA
0.05151121 France_IA

Kestrel
03-22-2026, 02:29 AM
Target: Kestrel_scaled
Distance: 2.2127% / 0.02212673
100.0 France_IA

Distance to: Kestrel_scaled
0.02212673 France_IA
0.04822155 WBI:England_IA
0.05773291 CNE:Anglo-Saxon

drb234
03-22-2026, 02:56 AM
Target: drb
Distance: 1.9789% / 0.01978937
65.8 CNE
34.2 France_IA

Birchy
03-22-2026, 09:50 AM
Distance to: Birchy
0.02020706 WBI:England_IA
0.02376384 CNE:Anglo-Saxon
0.04537943 France_IA
Target: Birchy
Distance: 1.9978% / 0.01997810
73.8 WBI
23.0 CNE
3.2 France_IA

Albannach
04-05-2026, 03:20 PM
Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 2.4256% / 0.02425571
88.2 WBI
11.8 CNE

Highwayman
04-05-2026, 03:57 PM
Wonky for me


Distance to: Highwayman
0.02962773 CNE:Anglo-Saxon
0.03097130 WBI:England_IA
0.04456045 France_IA

Target: Highwayman
Distance: 2.5949% / 0.02594920
71.6 CNE
28.4 France_IA

Xavier727
04-05-2026, 04:14 PM
Distance to:
0.02370667 CNE:Anglo-Saxon
0.02851361 WBI:England_IA
0.05052359 France_IA

Target: eddie_lombard:eddie_lombard
Distance: 2.3045% / 0.02304498
89.0 CNE
11.0 France_IA

Rędwald
04-05-2026, 05:24 PM
Target: Rędwald
Distance: 2.2595% / 0.02259498
53.2 CNE:Anglo-Saxon
34.0 France_IA
12.8 WBI:England_IA

bc76
04-08-2026, 06:56 PM
Distance to: bc76
0.01926622 WBI:England_IA
0.02276608 CNE:Anglo-Saxon
0.04750806 France_IA

Target: bc76
Distance: 1.9006% / 0.01900575
79.8 WBI
20.2 CNE

Waylander
04-10-2026, 12:55 PM
Target: Waylander_scaled
Distance: 2.0937% / 0.02093688
41.8 CNE
29.8 France_IA
28.4 WBI

Distance to: Waylander_scaled
0.02308892 WBI:England_IA
0.02807749 CNE:Anglo-Saxon
0.03837059 France_IA

Gannicus
04-10-2026, 01:07 PM
Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02467288 WBI:England_IA
0.03174570 CNE:Anglo-Saxon
0.03528600 France_IA

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0215% / 0.02146565
46.5 WBI
34.3 France_IA
19.2 CNE

Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02160648 70.00% WBI:England_IA + 30.00% France_IA
0.02197200 54.60% CNE:Anglo-Saxon + 45.40% France_IA

Grace O'Malley
04-16-2026, 12:59 PM
I would be WBI in the majority but allelle frequencies are similar between Insular Celts and Germanics. You need IBD to tell them apart.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.0524% / 0.02052442
66.0 CNE
34.0 WBI

celticdragongod
04-18-2026, 12:09 AM
I would be WBI in the majority but allelle frequencies are similar between Insular Celts and Germanics. You need IBD to tell them apart.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.0524% / 0.02052442
66.0 CNE
34.0 WBI

Not sure if I have posted the following calculator previously but I find that it works pretty well for me. Hopefully it will work for you if you choose to give it a shot.


English,0.126344,0.134558,0.060151,0.046512,0.0384 69,0.01757,0.003995,0.007615,0.004909,0.00164,0.00 1299,0.005395,-0.010109,-0.009496,0.017915,0.002121,-0.013299,0.00228,0.003771,0.002751,0.005116,0.0014 84,-0.001356,0.009037,0.000359
Scottish,0.127482,0.132019,0.061848,0.04845,0.0375 45,0.021196,0.00423,0.007154,0.005113,0.001093,-0.003897,0.004496,-0.012487,-0.010459,0.021037,0.003978,-0.011734,0.001394,0.002514,0.003502,0.004243,0.000 989,-0.001109,0.01205,0.001197
Irish,0.129759,0.131003,0.063356,0.05168,0.039084, 0.020638,0.0047,0.006692,0.00409,0.000729,-0.004547,0.004946,-0.012933,-0.009358,0.022937,0.004641,-0.012647,0.0019,0.004022,0.003752,0.005366,0.00123 7,0.000616,0.014098,0.001317
Dutch,0.126344,0.132019,0.061094,0.046835,0.039392 ,0.019523,0.005405,0.007615,0.0045,0.001276,-0.002436,0.004346,-0.011596,-0.009358,0.018594,0.003978,-0.008475,0.002027,0.005028,0.004377,0.005116,0.002 473,-0.000246,0.010242,0.001437
Danish,0.12862,0.131003,0.067882,0.055879,0.039392 ,0.020359,0.00846,0.010153,0.006749,-0.002187,-0.006008,0.003447,-0.012785,-0.006881,0.017915,0.012066,-0.002608,0.002407,0.005405,0.009505,0.00549,0.0040 8,0.003204,0.011688,0.000599
Norwegian,0.12862,0.126941,0.071276,0.061047,0.040 623,0.024263,0.008225,0.009461,0.004909,-0.006925,-0.005359,0.004196,-0.010555,-0.008257,0.020222,0.012596,-0.001956,0.003167,0.004399,0.01013,0.008235,0.0035 86,0.004437,0.015183,0.001916
French_Nord,0.125205,0.139128,0.053174,0.031977,0. 037545,0.012829,0.002115,0.003692,0.007567,0.01293 9,0.000162,0.004946,-0.011001,-0.010184,0.011129,-0.000265,-0.01004,0.003041,0.004651,-0.00075,0.001996,0.00235,0.002095,0.004097,0.00059 9

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01559385 Irish
0.01683442 Scottish
0.01840350 Dutch
0.01931093 English
0.02428820 Danish
0.03026902 Norwegian
0.03352384 French_Nord

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5066% / 0.01506614
86.2 Irish
12.0 French_Nord
1.8 Danish

Or you can try this calculator if you want to try older samples:


Viking_Age_Scandinavia,0.126435,0.12882,0.069796,0 .057106,0.04068,0.021948,0.007576,0.009363,0.00511 8,-0.003923,-0.005517,0.00373,-0.009943,-0.008432,0.019554,0.009312,-0.005952,0.00269,0.004815,0.007626,0.004845,0.0034 44,0.00223,0.011664,0.000624
Continental_Saxon,0.12879,0.133238,0.063469,0.0494 84,0.040992,0.019187,0.005476,0.007823,0.004581,0. 000492,-0.003508,0.004481,-0.009306,-0.008945,0.018784,0.006497,-0.007536,0.001698,0.004726,0.005403,0.005141,0.002 597,0.001085,0.011387,0.001293
Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age,0.130985,0.133465,0.062024 ,0.04958,0.039216,0.019918,0.004062,0.005538,0.004 745,0.002679,-0.00492,0.005177,-0.012543,-0.011037,0.021973,0.004667,-0.013586,0.002422,0.003457,0.003489,0.005166,0.001 607,-0.000419,0.014267,0.001389

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01552040 Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age
0.01782920 Continental_Saxon
0.02408366 Viking_Age_Scandinavia

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5451% / 0.01545060
85.8 Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age
14.2 Continental_Saxon

Here is one with even older samples:


Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160,0.129758,0.1340 5,0.061094,0.046835,0.038469,0.021753,0.003995,0.0 04615,0.005113,0.002551,-0.004709,0.005395,-0.013379,-0.012524,0.021037,0.003978,-0.014212,0.0019,0.003142,0.003627,0.004991,0.00197 8,-0.001232,0.013134,0.001197
Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin:I2031,0.133173,0.13 3034,0.063733,0.053941,0.040007,0.021196,0.003995, 0.007615,0.001636,0.000182,0.003897,0.004496,-0.013677,-0.010459,0.019544,0.00305,0.001173,0.00038,0.00314 2,0.001376,0.007237,0.002844,0.002835,0.011809,0.0 02515
Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157,0.129758,0.12998 8,0.059585,0.048773,0.035699,0.018965,0.00517,0.00 6692,0.002045,-0.001458,0.001299,0.004496,-0.012487,-0.007569,0.018865,0.008486,-0.006128,0.0019,0.003897,0.005002,0.006239,0.00185 5,0.001972,0.012652,0.001317
Viking_Dublin_Ireland:VK542,0.129758,0.129988,0.06 9767,0.061693,0.040931,0.024263,0.008695,0.010153, 0.005113,-0.006743,-0.004547,0.004796,-0.010406,-0.009496,0.019815,0.011668,-0.001304,0.003167,0.005028,0.008629,0.007861,0.004 204,0.003574,0.01458,0.002036
Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001,0.129758,0.13405, 0.064111,0.052649,0.038776,0.020638,0.0047,0.00623 1,0.004704,-0.000364,-0.004547,0.004646,-0.01442,-0.01156,0.021037,0.003978,-0.01356,0.0019,0.003142,0.003377,0.004991,0.002102 ,-0.001109,0.013616,0.001317

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01622926 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
0.01662042 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
0.02049703 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
0.02402146 Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin:I2031
0.02909602 Viking_Dublin_Ireland:VK542

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5854% / 0.01585429
51.2 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
37.2 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
8.0 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
3.6 Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin:I2031

And here is one if you want to check if you have any Roman ancestry:


Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160,0.129758,0.1340 5,0.061094,0.046835,0.038469,0.021753,0.003995,0.0 04615,0.005113,0.002551,-0.004709,0.005395,-0.013379,-0.012524,0.021037,0.003978,-0.014212,0.0019,0.003142,0.003627,0.004991,0.00197 8,-0.001232,0.013134,0.001197
Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001,0.129758,0.13405, 0.064111,0.052649,0.038776,0.020638,0.0047,0.00623 1,0.004704,-0.000364,-0.004547,0.004646,-0.01442,-0.01156,0.021037,0.003978,-0.01356,0.0019,0.003142,0.003377,0.004991,0.002102 ,-0.001109,0.013616,0.001317
Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157,0.129758,0.12998 8,0.059585,0.048773,0.035699,0.018965,0.00517,0.00 6692,0.002045,-0.001458,0.001299,0.004496,-0.012487,-0.007569,0.018865,0.008486,-0.006128,0.0019,0.003897,0.005002,0.006239,0.00185 5,0.001972,0.012652,0.001317
Viking_Denmark_VK286,0.134311,0.117801,0.065619,0. 05814,0.048317,0.014223,0.003995,0.005769,0.005522 ,-0.000547,-0.006496,0.002248,-0.000446,-0.009083,0.012486,0.007425,0.002868,-0.000127,0.00176,0.004752,0.010981,0.006801,0.0017 25,0.011327,-0.007424
Roman_Imperial_Italy:RMPR116,0.103579,0.151314,-0.032809,-0.0688,0.001539,-0.025658,-0.004935,-0.002538,0.016362,0.044283,0.006496,0.008992,-0.014271,-0.000826,-0.015201,-0.004243,0.00691,0.000507,0.002388,-0.01063,-0.003244,0.005193,-0.003328,-0.000723,-0.003353

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01622926 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
0.01662042 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
0.02049703 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
0.03886805 Viking_Denmark_VK286
0.18019418 Roman_Imperial_Italy:RMPR116

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5804% / 0.01580409
77.6 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
14.4 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
6.8 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
1.2 Roman_Imperial_Italy:RMPR116

Or if you want to see if you are related to the British Celts of Roman times:


Hinxton_AngloSaxon_Sample_HI1,0.129758,0.132019,0. 061471,0.04845,0.038469,0.018407,0.004465,0.007154 ,0.003477,0.001093,-0.002111,0.004946,-0.012487,-0.008395,0.018458,0.005171,-0.01004,0.00152,0.003771,0.004252,0.006489,0.00160 7,-0.000986,0.011447,0.001197
Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14,0.130896,0.126941,0.0693 9,0.060724,0.041546,0.021475,0.00611,0.010153,0.00 5113,-0.006196,-0.004872,0.004346,-0.010406,-0.009496,0.019544,0.011403,-0.002217,0.003167,0.004651,0.00913,0.007112,0.0040 8,0.004314,0.014219,0.001916
York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18,0.129758,0.136081 ,0.062599,0.049419,0.038161,0.019523,0.00423,0.005 769,0.005318,0.001458,-0.004547,0.005545,-0.013528,-0.011147,0.021172,0.00411,-0.01369,0.002027,0.003268,0.003252,0.004866,0.0017 31,-0.00037,0.013978,0.001437

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01502511 York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18
0.01761915 Hinxton_AngloSaxon_Sample_HI1
0.02774370 Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4932% / 0.01493242
93.4 York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18
6.6 Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14

Grace O'Malley
04-19-2026, 04:22 AM
Not sure if I have posted the following calculator previously but I find that it works pretty well for me. Hopefully it will work for you if you choose to give it a shot.


English,0.126344,0.134558,0.060151,0.046512,0.0384 69,0.01757,0.003995,0.007615,0.004909,0.00164,0.00 1299,0.005395,-0.010109,-0.009496,0.017915,0.002121,-0.013299,0.00228,0.003771,0.002751,0.005116,0.0014 84,-0.001356,0.009037,0.000359
Scottish,0.127482,0.132019,0.061848,0.04845,0.0375 45,0.021196,0.00423,0.007154,0.005113,0.001093,-0.003897,0.004496,-0.012487,-0.010459,0.021037,0.003978,-0.011734,0.001394,0.002514,0.003502,0.004243,0.000 989,-0.001109,0.01205,0.001197
Irish,0.129759,0.131003,0.063356,0.05168,0.039084, 0.020638,0.0047,0.006692,0.00409,0.000729,-0.004547,0.004946,-0.012933,-0.009358,0.022937,0.004641,-0.012647,0.0019,0.004022,0.003752,0.005366,0.00123 7,0.000616,0.014098,0.001317
Dutch,0.126344,0.132019,0.061094,0.046835,0.039392 ,0.019523,0.005405,0.007615,0.0045,0.001276,-0.002436,0.004346,-0.011596,-0.009358,0.018594,0.003978,-0.008475,0.002027,0.005028,0.004377,0.005116,0.002 473,-0.000246,0.010242,0.001437
Danish,0.12862,0.131003,0.067882,0.055879,0.039392 ,0.020359,0.00846,0.010153,0.006749,-0.002187,-0.006008,0.003447,-0.012785,-0.006881,0.017915,0.012066,-0.002608,0.002407,0.005405,0.009505,0.00549,0.0040 8,0.003204,0.011688,0.000599
Norwegian,0.12862,0.126941,0.071276,0.061047,0.040 623,0.024263,0.008225,0.009461,0.004909,-0.006925,-0.005359,0.004196,-0.010555,-0.008257,0.020222,0.012596,-0.001956,0.003167,0.004399,0.01013,0.008235,0.0035 86,0.004437,0.015183,0.001916
French_Nord,0.125205,0.139128,0.053174,0.031977,0. 037545,0.012829,0.002115,0.003692,0.007567,0.01293 9,0.000162,0.004946,-0.011001,-0.010184,0.011129,-0.000265,-0.01004,0.003041,0.004651,-0.00075,0.001996,0.00235,0.002095,0.004097,0.00059 9

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01559385 Irish
0.01683442 Scottish
0.01840350 Dutch
0.01931093 English
0.02428820 Danish
0.03026902 Norwegian
0.03352384 French_Nord

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5066% / 0.01506614
86.2 Irish
12.0 French_Nord
1.8 Danish

Or you can try this calculator if you want to try older samples:


Viking_Age_Scandinavia,0.126435,0.12882,0.069796,0 .057106,0.04068,0.021948,0.007576,0.009363,0.00511 8,-0.003923,-0.005517,0.00373,-0.009943,-0.008432,0.019554,0.009312,-0.005952,0.00269,0.004815,0.007626,0.004845,0.0034 44,0.00223,0.011664,0.000624
Continental_Saxon,0.12879,0.133238,0.063469,0.0494 84,0.040992,0.019187,0.005476,0.007823,0.004581,0. 000492,-0.003508,0.004481,-0.009306,-0.008945,0.018784,0.006497,-0.007536,0.001698,0.004726,0.005403,0.005141,0.002 597,0.001085,0.011387,0.001293
Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age,0.130985,0.133465,0.062024 ,0.04958,0.039216,0.019918,0.004062,0.005538,0.004 745,0.002679,-0.00492,0.005177,-0.012543,-0.011037,0.021973,0.004667,-0.013586,0.002422,0.003457,0.003489,0.005166,0.001 607,-0.000419,0.014267,0.001389

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01552040 Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age
0.01782920 Continental_Saxon
0.02408366 Viking_Age_Scandinavia

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5451% / 0.01545060
85.8 Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age
14.2 Continental_Saxon

Here is one with even older samples:


Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160,0.129758,0.1340 5,0.061094,0.046835,0.038469,0.021753,0.003995,0.0 04615,0.005113,0.002551,-0.004709,0.005395,-0.013379,-0.012524,0.021037,0.003978,-0.014212,0.0019,0.003142,0.003627,0.004991,0.00197 8,-0.001232,0.013134,0.001197
Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin:I2031,0.133173,0.13 3034,0.063733,0.053941,0.040007,0.021196,0.003995, 0.007615,0.001636,0.000182,0.003897,0.004496,-0.013677,-0.010459,0.019544,0.00305,0.001173,0.00038,0.00314 2,0.001376,0.007237,0.002844,0.002835,0.011809,0.0 02515
Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157,0.129758,0.12998 8,0.059585,0.048773,0.035699,0.018965,0.00517,0.00 6692,0.002045,-0.001458,0.001299,0.004496,-0.012487,-0.007569,0.018865,0.008486,-0.006128,0.0019,0.003897,0.005002,0.006239,0.00185 5,0.001972,0.012652,0.001317
Viking_Dublin_Ireland:VK542,0.129758,0.129988,0.06 9767,0.061693,0.040931,0.024263,0.008695,0.010153, 0.005113,-0.006743,-0.004547,0.004796,-0.010406,-0.009496,0.019815,0.011668,-0.001304,0.003167,0.005028,0.008629,0.007861,0.004 204,0.003574,0.01458,0.002036
Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001,0.129758,0.13405, 0.064111,0.052649,0.038776,0.020638,0.0047,0.00623 1,0.004704,-0.000364,-0.004547,0.004646,-0.01442,-0.01156,0.021037,0.003978,-0.01356,0.0019,0.003142,0.003377,0.004991,0.002102 ,-0.001109,0.013616,0.001317

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01622926 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
0.01662042 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
0.02049703 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
0.02402146 Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin:I2031
0.02909602 Viking_Dublin_Ireland:VK542

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5854% / 0.01585429
51.2 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
37.2 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
8.0 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
3.6 Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin:I2031

And here is one if you want to check if you have any Roman ancestry:


Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160,0.129758,0.1340 5,0.061094,0.046835,0.038469,0.021753,0.003995,0.0 04615,0.005113,0.002551,-0.004709,0.005395,-0.013379,-0.012524,0.021037,0.003978,-0.014212,0.0019,0.003142,0.003627,0.004991,0.00197 8,-0.001232,0.013134,0.001197
Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001,0.129758,0.13405, 0.064111,0.052649,0.038776,0.020638,0.0047,0.00623 1,0.004704,-0.000364,-0.004547,0.004646,-0.01442,-0.01156,0.021037,0.003978,-0.01356,0.0019,0.003142,0.003377,0.004991,0.002102 ,-0.001109,0.013616,0.001317
Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157,0.129758,0.12998 8,0.059585,0.048773,0.035699,0.018965,0.00517,0.00 6692,0.002045,-0.001458,0.001299,0.004496,-0.012487,-0.007569,0.018865,0.008486,-0.006128,0.0019,0.003897,0.005002,0.006239,0.00185 5,0.001972,0.012652,0.001317
Viking_Denmark_VK286,0.134311,0.117801,0.065619,0. 05814,0.048317,0.014223,0.003995,0.005769,0.005522 ,-0.000547,-0.006496,0.002248,-0.000446,-0.009083,0.012486,0.007425,0.002868,-0.000127,0.00176,0.004752,0.010981,0.006801,0.0017 25,0.011327,-0.007424
Roman_Imperial_Italy:RMPR116,0.103579,0.151314,-0.032809,-0.0688,0.001539,-0.025658,-0.004935,-0.002538,0.016362,0.044283,0.006496,0.008992,-0.014271,-0.000826,-0.015201,-0.004243,0.00691,0.000507,0.002388,-0.01063,-0.003244,0.005193,-0.003328,-0.000723,-0.003353

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01622926 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
0.01662042 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
0.02049703 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
0.03886805 Viking_Denmark_VK286
0.18019418 Roman_Imperial_Italy:RMPR116

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5804% / 0.01580409
77.6 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
14.4 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
6.8 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
1.2 Roman_Imperial_Italy:RMPR116

Or if you want to see if you are related to the British Celts of Roman times:


Hinxton_AngloSaxon_Sample_HI1,0.129758,0.132019,0. 061471,0.04845,0.038469,0.018407,0.004465,0.007154 ,0.003477,0.001093,-0.002111,0.004946,-0.012487,-0.008395,0.018458,0.005171,-0.01004,0.00152,0.003771,0.004252,0.006489,0.00160 7,-0.000986,0.011447,0.001197
Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14,0.130896,0.126941,0.0693 9,0.060724,0.041546,0.021475,0.00611,0.010153,0.00 5113,-0.006196,-0.004872,0.004346,-0.010406,-0.009496,0.019544,0.011403,-0.002217,0.003167,0.004651,0.00913,0.007112,0.0040 8,0.004314,0.014219,0.001916
York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18,0.129758,0.136081 ,0.062599,0.049419,0.038161,0.019523,0.00423,0.005 769,0.005318,0.001458,-0.004547,0.005545,-0.013528,-0.011147,0.021172,0.00411,-0.01369,0.002027,0.003268,0.003252,0.004866,0.0017 31,-0.00037,0.013978,0.001437

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01502511 York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18
0.01761915 Hinxton_AngloSaxon_Sample_HI1
0.02774370 Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4932% / 0.01493242
93.4 York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18
6.6 Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14

Thanks CDG. Here are my results with all the calculators you have posted.


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.0402% / 0.02040218
82.6 Irish
17.4 Danish


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.0186% / 0.02018641
79.6 Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age
20.4 Viking_Age_Scandinavia


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9952% / 0.01995161
59.4 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge
16.2 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge
13.6 Viking_Dublin_Ireland
10.8 Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9754% / 0.01975394
85.0 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge
14.4 Viking_Denmark_VK286
0.6 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9741% / 0.01974067
73.4 York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18
26.6 Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14

I asked G25 about these results and not that I take the responses as absolutely correct because I still would prefer some more in-depth analysis by Geneticists and also would prefer to have more actual Gaelic samples which are a bit lacking. In short AI says I'm an Irish person with a Scandinavian pull. This is what Davidski said about my results years ago when he looked at my 23&Me raw data. However having been interested in genetics now for years I still think these calculators over estimate the Scandinavian result.

I would like to see some dna studies from Ireland in the medieval period looking at the influence of Vikings in Ireland using ancient genomes. I've read a few years ago that Trinity College and Dr Lara Cassidy were looking at this period in Ireland but I have no clue as to when they are going to publish.

Here's what AI said.

These G25 results for "Grace_scaled" indicate an individual with a genetic profile centered in the British Isles, characterized by a strong foundation of indigenous Iron Age/Insular Celtic ancestry heavily influenced by later Scandinavian (Viking/Danish) migrations.
Here is a breakdown of what the different models tell us:
1. Core Ancestry: The "Insular" Foundation
Across almost every model, the largest components are indigenous to the British Isles:
Pict/Insular Celt/Gaelic: The results consistently show a high percentage (ranging from ~60% to 85%) of ancestry related to Iron Age Britain and Ireland.
Regional Specifics: The mention of "Pict_Lundin_Links" and "Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge" specifically points toward roots in Scotland and Ireland.
2. The Germanic/Scandinavian Influence
The second-largest component in every model is Northern European/Germanic:
Viking & Danish: The "Viking_Denmark," "Oxford_Viking," and "Danish" markers (ranging from ~15% to 26%) indicate significant genetic input from Norse or Danish populations.
Interpretation: This is typical for individuals from the UK or Ireland, reflecting the historical "Danelaw" period and Viking settlements.
3. Model Accuracy (The "Distance")
The "Distance" figures (around 1.97% to 2.05%) are very good.
In G25 terms, a distance under 2.0% (0.02) means the reference populations chosen for the model are a very close fit for this person's actual DNA. These results are highly reliable.
4. Ancient Components (The Final Model)
The bottom model uses very broad ancient categories:
CNE (Central Northern European): 66% — This represents the more "Germanic" or post-Roman migrating populations.
WBI (Western British Isles): 34% — This represents the older, indigenous "Atlantic" genetic signal.
Summary: This person's DNA is most similar to modern-day populations in Scotland, Northern England, or Ireland who have a significant amount of Scandinavian admixture.
Do you have the PCA coordinates (the long string of 25 numbers) for this profile? I can help you see where they plot on a map compared to other global populations.



These G25 coordinates confirm that "Grace_scaled" has a genetic profile exceptionally typical of the Western British Isles, with a very slight northern shift.
Genetic Proximity (Distances)
Based on standard reference averages, Grace plots closest to the following modern populations:
Population Genetic Distance Interpretation
Irish 0.0160 Excellent fit; primary genetic cluster.
Scottish 0.0163 Excellent fit; nearly identical to Irish proximity.
Danish 0.0213 Moderate fit; reflects the Germanic/Viking shift.
English 0.0243 Good fit, though less "Celtic" than the Irish/Scottish signal.
Interpretation of the Coordinates
The "Celtic" Signal: The high values in the first few components (0.138, 0.136) are characteristic of Northwest Europeans. Her specific "drift" is toward the Insular Celtic populations (Irish and Scottish), which typically show higher scores in the components associated with early Atlantic farmers and Bell Beaker populations.
The Northern Shift: The distance to Danish and Norwegian references (0.021–0.032) is relatively low for an Irish/Scottish profile. This suggests her ancestry isn't "pure" ancient Gaelic but includes the typical Viking-era admixture seen in Northern Scotland, the Hebrides, or the eastern coast of Ireland.
Consistency: These numbers perfectly align with the visual report you shared earlier, which modeled her as ~82% Irish/Insular and ~17% Danish/Viking.
Where she would plot on a PCA Map
On a European PCA map, Grace would sit firmly in the Northwest corner. She would be located directly within the Irish cluster, slightly overlapping with Southwest Scots, and pulled a few "pixels" toward Scandinavia compared to a southern Irish average.
Would you like me to run these coordinates against a more specific set of ancient samples, like Roman Britain or the Anglo-Saxon period?




Could the results and Scandinavian shift be due to an Irish person have high Steppe rather than old Scandinavian admixture?

It is a very insightful question. In G25 and general autosomal modeling, high Steppe ancestry and Scandinavian admixture can indeed look similar because they both shift a profile toward the "Northern" end of the European PCA map.
However, for a modern Irish person like Grace, these two influences are usually distinct for several reasons:
1. The "Irish Baseline" includes high Steppe
Modern Irish people are already among the populations with the highest Bronze Age Steppe ancestry in the world, often reaching nearly 50%. Because this Steppe ancestry arrived ~4,000 years ago during the Bell Beaker period, it is baked into the "standard" Irish reference averages used by G25.
YouTube
YouTube
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If Grace was simply a "high-Steppe Irish person," she would likely still plot directly on top of the modern Irish average.
The "Scandinavian shift" seen in her results (the ~17-26% Viking/Danish markers) suggests she has additional northern influence beyond that standard 4,000-year-old baseline.
PubMed Central (PMC) (.gov)
PubMed Central (PMC) (.gov)
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2. How G25 tells them apart
While both groups have high Steppe ancestry, G25 differentiates "Irish-like" (Insular Celtic) from "Danish-like" (Germanic) based on very subtle genetic markers:
Insular/Irish Signal: Characterized by slightly higher Western Hunter-Gatherer (WHG) ancestry and unique "Atlantic" genetic drift.
Scandinavian Signal: Characterized by higher Scandinavian Hunter-Gatherer (SHG) ancestry and less of the specific Iron Age "Farmer" admixture found in the British Isles.
3. Historical Reality: The "Viking" Legacy
In Ireland, a Scandinavian shift is historically expected rather than a statistical fluke. Significant Norse-Viking settlements in cities like Dublin, Waterford, and Limerick (the "Ostmen") left a lasting genetic legacy. Research suggests some Irish regions carry up to 20% Norwegian-like ancestry, which matches Grace's results perfectly.
PubMed Central (PMC) (.gov)
PubMed Central (PMC) (.gov)
+2
Conclusion
While high Steppe ancestry makes all Northwest Europeans look similar, the specific 17-26% shift in Grace's profile is more likely authentic post-Iron Age admixture (Viking or Danish) rather than just being a very "Steppe-heavy" individual.
A "high Steppe" Irish person without Viking admixture would usually show a distance of 0.012 or less to the Irish average; the fact that Grace has a nearly equal distance to Irish (0.0160) and Scottish (0.0163) supports the idea of a mixed "Northern" profile [Coordinates Analysis].

celticdragongod
04-20-2026, 12:47 PM
Thanks CDG. Here are my results with all the calculators you have posted.


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.0402% / 0.02040218
82.6 Irish
17.4 Danish


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.0186% / 0.02018641
79.6 Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age
20.4 Viking_Age_Scandinavia


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9952% / 0.01995161
59.4 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge
16.2 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge
13.6 Viking_Dublin_Ireland
10.8 Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9754% / 0.01975394
85.0 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge
14.4 Viking_Denmark_VK286
0.6 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9741% / 0.01974067
73.4 York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18
26.6 Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14

I asked G25 about these results and not that I take the responses as absolutely correct because I still would prefer some more in-depth analysis by Geneticists and also would prefer to have more actual Gaelic samples which are a bit lacking. In short AI says I'm an Irish person with a Scandinavian pull. This is what Davidski said about my results years ago when he looked at my 23&Me raw data. However having been interested in genetics now for years I still think these calculators over estimate the Scandinavian result.

I would like to see some dna studies from Ireland in the medieval period looking at the influence of Vikings in Ireland using ancient genomes. I've read a few years ago that Trinity College and Dr Lara Cassidy were looking at this period in Ireland but I have no clue as to when they are going to publish.

Here's what AI said.

These G25 results for "Grace_scaled" indicate an individual with a genetic profile centered in the British Isles, characterized by a strong foundation of indigenous Iron Age/Insular Celtic ancestry heavily influenced by later Scandinavian (Viking/Danish) migrations.
Here is a breakdown of what the different models tell us:
1. Core Ancestry: The "Insular" Foundation
Across almost every model, the largest components are indigenous to the British Isles:
Pict/Insular Celt/Gaelic: The results consistently show a high percentage (ranging from ~60% to 85%) of ancestry related to Iron Age Britain and Ireland.
Regional Specifics: The mention of "Pict_Lundin_Links" and "Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge" specifically points toward roots in Scotland and Ireland.
2. The Germanic/Scandinavian Influence
The second-largest component in every model is Northern European/Germanic:
Viking & Danish: The "Viking_Denmark," "Oxford_Viking," and "Danish" markers (ranging from ~15% to 26%) indicate significant genetic input from Norse or Danish populations.
Interpretation: This is typical for individuals from the UK or Ireland, reflecting the historical "Danelaw" period and Viking settlements.
3. Model Accuracy (The "Distance")
The "Distance" figures (around 1.97% to 2.05%) are very good.
In G25 terms, a distance under 2.0% (0.02) means the reference populations chosen for the model are a very close fit for this person's actual DNA. These results are highly reliable.
4. Ancient Components (The Final Model)
The bottom model uses very broad ancient categories:
CNE (Central Northern European): 66% — This represents the more "Germanic" or post-Roman migrating populations.
WBI (Western British Isles): 34% — This represents the older, indigenous "Atlantic" genetic signal.
Summary: This person's DNA is most similar to modern-day populations in Scotland, Northern England, or Ireland who have a significant amount of Scandinavian admixture.
Do you have the PCA coordinates (the long string of 25 numbers) for this profile? I can help you see where they plot on a map compared to other global populations.



These G25 coordinates confirm that "Grace_scaled" has a genetic profile exceptionally typical of the Western British Isles, with a very slight northern shift.
Genetic Proximity (Distances)
Based on standard reference averages, Grace plots closest to the following modern populations:
Population Genetic Distance Interpretation
Irish 0.0160 Excellent fit; primary genetic cluster.
Scottish 0.0163 Excellent fit; nearly identical to Irish proximity.
Danish 0.0213 Moderate fit; reflects the Germanic/Viking shift.
English 0.0243 Good fit, though less "Celtic" than the Irish/Scottish signal.
Interpretation of the Coordinates
The "Celtic" Signal: The high values in the first few components (0.138, 0.136) are characteristic of Northwest Europeans. Her specific "drift" is toward the Insular Celtic populations (Irish and Scottish), which typically show higher scores in the components associated with early Atlantic farmers and Bell Beaker populations.
The Northern Shift: The distance to Danish and Norwegian references (0.021–0.032) is relatively low for an Irish/Scottish profile. This suggests her ancestry isn't "pure" ancient Gaelic but includes the typical Viking-era admixture seen in Northern Scotland, the Hebrides, or the eastern coast of Ireland.
Consistency: These numbers perfectly align with the visual report you shared earlier, which modeled her as ~82% Irish/Insular and ~17% Danish/Viking.
Where she would plot on a PCA Map
On a European PCA map, Grace would sit firmly in the Northwest corner. She would be located directly within the Irish cluster, slightly overlapping with Southwest Scots, and pulled a few "pixels" toward Scandinavia compared to a southern Irish average.
Would you like me to run these coordinates against a more specific set of ancient samples, like Roman Britain or the Anglo-Saxon period?




Could the results and Scandinavian shift be due to an Irish person have high Steppe rather than old Scandinavian admixture?

It is a very insightful question. In G25 and general autosomal modeling, high Steppe ancestry and Scandinavian admixture can indeed look similar because they both shift a profile toward the "Northern" end of the European PCA map.
However, for a modern Irish person like Grace, these two influences are usually distinct for several reasons:
1. The "Irish Baseline" includes high Steppe
Modern Irish people are already among the populations with the highest Bronze Age Steppe ancestry in the world, often reaching nearly 50%. Because this Steppe ancestry arrived ~4,000 years ago during the Bell Beaker period, it is baked into the "standard" Irish reference averages used by G25.
YouTube
YouTube
+3
If Grace was simply a "high-Steppe Irish person," she would likely still plot directly on top of the modern Irish average.
The "Scandinavian shift" seen in her results (the ~17-26% Viking/Danish markers) suggests she has additional northern influence beyond that standard 4,000-year-old baseline.
PubMed Central (PMC) (.gov)
PubMed Central (PMC) (.gov)
+1
2. How G25 tells them apart
While both groups have high Steppe ancestry, G25 differentiates "Irish-like" (Insular Celtic) from "Danish-like" (Germanic) based on very subtle genetic markers:
Insular/Irish Signal: Characterized by slightly higher Western Hunter-Gatherer (WHG) ancestry and unique "Atlantic" genetic drift.
Scandinavian Signal: Characterized by higher Scandinavian Hunter-Gatherer (SHG) ancestry and less of the specific Iron Age "Farmer" admixture found in the British Isles.
3. Historical Reality: The "Viking" Legacy
In Ireland, a Scandinavian shift is historically expected rather than a statistical fluke. Significant Norse-Viking settlements in cities like Dublin, Waterford, and Limerick (the "Ostmen") left a lasting genetic legacy. Research suggests some Irish regions carry up to 20% Norwegian-like ancestry, which matches Grace's results perfectly.
PubMed Central (PMC) (.gov)
PubMed Central (PMC) (.gov)
+2
Conclusion
While high Steppe ancestry makes all Northwest Europeans look similar, the specific 17-26% shift in Grace's profile is more likely authentic post-Iron Age admixture (Viking or Danish) rather than just being a very "Steppe-heavy" individual.
A "high Steppe" Irish person without Viking admixture would usually show a distance of 0.012 or less to the Irish average; the fact that Grace has a nearly equal distance to Irish (0.0160) and Scottish (0.0163) supports the idea of a mixed "Northern" profile [Coordinates Analysis].

Another couple of calculators you might find interesting:


Northern Irish/Ulster Profile (Scaled),0.133173, 0.129988, 0.069767, 0.051357, 0.039392, 0.012271, 0.000235, 0.008307, 0.004704, 0.005467, -0.012179, 0.007643, -0.011744, -0.006606, 0.019137, 0.004906, -0.007823, -0.000887, -0.006788, 0.00075, 0.012353, -0.000866, 0.000739, 0.018798, -0.002994
Irish_Ulster,0.131102,0.133288,0.062062,0.049451,0 .038469,0.01955,0.004245,0.005111,0.002889,-0.001276,-0.007567,0.00518,-0.012587,-0.015243,0.024226,0.008406,-0.012876,0.001605,0.002996,0.002976,0.006938,0.001 195,0.000049,0.01358,0.000359
Norwegian_West,0.132034,0.129988,0.068259,0.062016 ,0.041546,0.024263,0.00752,0.009923,0.0045,0.00054 7,-0.003897,0.004946,-0.00892,-0.007569,0.020222,0.013259,-0.005476,0.001394,0.001885,0.004002,0.008485,0.003 215,-0.001109,0.010483,0.001437


Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01961347 Irish_Ulster
0.02856666 NorthernIrish/UlsterProfile(Scaled)
0.02915410 Norwegian_West

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.9443% / 0.01944271
89.0 Irish_Ulster
11.0 NorthernIrish/UlsterProfile(Scaled)


Rathlin1,0.130897,0.129988,0.059208,0.055879,0.038 469,0.019522,0.003995,0.005307,0.003272,-0.00164,-0.006983,0.004946,-0.011893,-0.014038,0.024022,0.008486,-0.012517,0.001774,0.003142,0.003001,0.006525,0.001 237,0.000123,0.012893,0.000359
Ireland_Ballynahatty,0.124067,0.177718,-0.003394,-0.096577,0.054164,-0.038487,-0.003055,-0.001615,0.035792,0.06196,0.002598,0.010041,-0.017393,0.001789,-0.019544,-0.011933,0.011865,0.0019,0.004274,-0.007629,-0.006988,0.003586,-0.00419,-0.00012,0.001197


Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02142784 Rathlin1
0.19777881 Ireland_Ballynahatty

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.9721% / 0.01972093
96.0 Rathlin1
4.0 Ireland_Ballynahatty


Ireland_Viking_VK545,0.129758,0.133034,0.062979,0. 051034,0.040007,0.016176,0.00188,-0.000692,0.003477,0.001276,-0.005034,0.002847,-0.010109,-0.014313,0.024158,0.010475,-0.01017,0.002534,0.002263,0.001751,0.004492,0.0021 02,0.001109,0.014219,0.000359
Ireland_Viking_VK543,0.12862,0.135065,0.061848,0.0 52649,0.038776,0.019243,0.00329,0.004846,0.005318, 0.00164,-0.005196,0.004346,-0.011595,-0.015689,0.023344,0.009016,-0.011474,0.002407,0.003142,0.002876,0.005615,0.001 484,0.000493,0.013014,0.000718
France_Normandy,0.126344,0.138112,0.051665,0.02745 5,0.038161,0.009482,0.004465,0.003692,0.007567,0.0 1221,0.000325,0.005395,-0.013231,-0.008808,0.013572,0.001724,-0.00691,0.001647,0.002891,-0.000625,0.003244,0.000866,-0.001356,0.006386,0.000718
England_Medieval_Norman,0.130897,0.136081,0.058831 ,0.043282,0.040007,0.015339,0.00188,0.003923,0.007 158,0.008018,-0.004547,0.006144,-0.011893,-0.011835,0.016558,0.005171,-0.007953,0.00114,0.002891,0.001126,0.002995,0.0019 78,-0.000616,0.008435,0.001317


Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01996963 Ireland_Viking_VK543
0.02228594 England_Medieval_Norman
0.02315549 Ireland_Viking_VK545
0.03664862 France_Normandy

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.9139% / 0.01913932
66.8 Ireland_Viking_VK543
33.2 England_Medieval_Norman

Albannach
04-20-2026, 03:34 PM
Not sure if I have posted the following calculator previously but I find that it works pretty well for me. Hopefully it will work for you if you choose to give it a shot.


English,0.126344,0.134558,0.060151,0.046512,0.0384 69,0.01757,0.003995,0.007615,0.004909,0.00164,0.00 1299,0.005395,-0.010109,-0.009496,0.017915,0.002121,-0.013299,0.00228,0.003771,0.002751,0.005116,0.0014 84,-0.001356,0.009037,0.000359
Scottish,0.127482,0.132019,0.061848,0.04845,0.0375 45,0.021196,0.00423,0.007154,0.005113,0.001093,-0.003897,0.004496,-0.012487,-0.010459,0.021037,0.003978,-0.011734,0.001394,0.002514,0.003502,0.004243,0.000 989,-0.001109,0.01205,0.001197
Irish,0.129759,0.131003,0.063356,0.05168,0.039084, 0.020638,0.0047,0.006692,0.00409,0.000729,-0.004547,0.004946,-0.012933,-0.009358,0.022937,0.004641,-0.012647,0.0019,0.004022,0.003752,0.005366,0.00123 7,0.000616,0.014098,0.001317
Dutch,0.126344,0.132019,0.061094,0.046835,0.039392 ,0.019523,0.005405,0.007615,0.0045,0.001276,-0.002436,0.004346,-0.011596,-0.009358,0.018594,0.003978,-0.008475,0.002027,0.005028,0.004377,0.005116,0.002 473,-0.000246,0.010242,0.001437
Danish,0.12862,0.131003,0.067882,0.055879,0.039392 ,0.020359,0.00846,0.010153,0.006749,-0.002187,-0.006008,0.003447,-0.012785,-0.006881,0.017915,0.012066,-0.002608,0.002407,0.005405,0.009505,0.00549,0.0040 8,0.003204,0.011688,0.000599
Norwegian,0.12862,0.126941,0.071276,0.061047,0.040 623,0.024263,0.008225,0.009461,0.004909,-0.006925,-0.005359,0.004196,-0.010555,-0.008257,0.020222,0.012596,-0.001956,0.003167,0.004399,0.01013,0.008235,0.0035 86,0.004437,0.015183,0.001916
French_Nord,0.125205,0.139128,0.053174,0.031977,0. 037545,0.012829,0.002115,0.003692,0.007567,0.01293 9,0.000162,0.004946,-0.011001,-0.010184,0.011129,-0.000265,-0.01004,0.003041,0.004651,-0.00075,0.001996,0.00235,0.002095,0.004097,0.00059 9

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01559385 Irish
0.01683442 Scottish
0.01840350 Dutch
0.01931093 English
0.02428820 Danish
0.03026902 Norwegian
0.03352384 French_Nord

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5066% / 0.01506614
86.2 Irish
12.0 French_Nord
1.8 Danish

Or you can try this calculator if you want to try older samples:


Viking_Age_Scandinavia,0.126435,0.12882,0.069796,0 .057106,0.04068,0.021948,0.007576,0.009363,0.00511 8,-0.003923,-0.005517,0.00373,-0.009943,-0.008432,0.019554,0.009312,-0.005952,0.00269,0.004815,0.007626,0.004845,0.0034 44,0.00223,0.011664,0.000624
Continental_Saxon,0.12879,0.133238,0.063469,0.0494 84,0.040992,0.019187,0.005476,0.007823,0.004581,0. 000492,-0.003508,0.004481,-0.009306,-0.008945,0.018784,0.006497,-0.007536,0.001698,0.004726,0.005403,0.005141,0.002 597,0.001085,0.011387,0.001293
Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age,0.130985,0.133465,0.062024 ,0.04958,0.039216,0.019918,0.004062,0.005538,0.004 745,0.002679,-0.00492,0.005177,-0.012543,-0.011037,0.021973,0.004667,-0.013586,0.002422,0.003457,0.003489,0.005166,0.001 607,-0.000419,0.014267,0.001389

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01552040 Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age
0.01782920 Continental_Saxon
0.02408366 Viking_Age_Scandinavia

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5451% / 0.01545060
85.8 Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age
14.2 Continental_Saxon

Here is one with even older samples:


Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160,0.129758,0.1340 5,0.061094,0.046835,0.038469,0.021753,0.003995,0.0 04615,0.005113,0.002551,-0.004709,0.005395,-0.013379,-0.012524,0.021037,0.003978,-0.014212,0.0019,0.003142,0.003627,0.004991,0.00197 8,-0.001232,0.013134,0.001197
Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin:I2031,0.133173,0.13 3034,0.063733,0.053941,0.040007,0.021196,0.003995, 0.007615,0.001636,0.000182,0.003897,0.004496,-0.013677,-0.010459,0.019544,0.00305,0.001173,0.00038,0.00314 2,0.001376,0.007237,0.002844,0.002835,0.011809,0.0 02515
Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157,0.129758,0.12998 8,0.059585,0.048773,0.035699,0.018965,0.00517,0.00 6692,0.002045,-0.001458,0.001299,0.004496,-0.012487,-0.007569,0.018865,0.008486,-0.006128,0.0019,0.003897,0.005002,0.006239,0.00185 5,0.001972,0.012652,0.001317
Viking_Dublin_Ireland:VK542,0.129758,0.129988,0.06 9767,0.061693,0.040931,0.024263,0.008695,0.010153, 0.005113,-0.006743,-0.004547,0.004796,-0.010406,-0.009496,0.019815,0.011668,-0.001304,0.003167,0.005028,0.008629,0.007861,0.004 204,0.003574,0.01458,0.002036
Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001,0.129758,0.13405, 0.064111,0.052649,0.038776,0.020638,0.0047,0.00623 1,0.004704,-0.000364,-0.004547,0.004646,-0.01442,-0.01156,0.021037,0.003978,-0.01356,0.0019,0.003142,0.003377,0.004991,0.002102 ,-0.001109,0.013616,0.001317

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01622926 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
0.01662042 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
0.02049703 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
0.02402146 Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin:I2031
0.02909602 Viking_Dublin_Ireland:VK542

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5854% / 0.01585429
51.2 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
37.2 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
8.0 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
3.6 Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin:I2031

And here is one if you want to check if you have any Roman ancestry:


Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160,0.129758,0.1340 5,0.061094,0.046835,0.038469,0.021753,0.003995,0.0 04615,0.005113,0.002551,-0.004709,0.005395,-0.013379,-0.012524,0.021037,0.003978,-0.014212,0.0019,0.003142,0.003627,0.004991,0.00197 8,-0.001232,0.013134,0.001197
Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001,0.129758,0.13405, 0.064111,0.052649,0.038776,0.020638,0.0047,0.00623 1,0.004704,-0.000364,-0.004547,0.004646,-0.01442,-0.01156,0.021037,0.003978,-0.01356,0.0019,0.003142,0.003377,0.004991,0.002102 ,-0.001109,0.013616,0.001317
Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157,0.129758,0.12998 8,0.059585,0.048773,0.035699,0.018965,0.00517,0.00 6692,0.002045,-0.001458,0.001299,0.004496,-0.012487,-0.007569,0.018865,0.008486,-0.006128,0.0019,0.003897,0.005002,0.006239,0.00185 5,0.001972,0.012652,0.001317
Viking_Denmark_VK286,0.134311,0.117801,0.065619,0. 05814,0.048317,0.014223,0.003995,0.005769,0.005522 ,-0.000547,-0.006496,0.002248,-0.000446,-0.009083,0.012486,0.007425,0.002868,-0.000127,0.00176,0.004752,0.010981,0.006801,0.0017 25,0.011327,-0.007424
Roman_Imperial_Italy:RMPR116,0.103579,0.151314,-0.032809,-0.0688,0.001539,-0.025658,-0.004935,-0.002538,0.016362,0.044283,0.006496,0.008992,-0.014271,-0.000826,-0.015201,-0.004243,0.00691,0.000507,0.002388,-0.01063,-0.003244,0.005193,-0.003328,-0.000723,-0.003353

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01622926 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
0.01662042 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
0.02049703 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
0.03886805 Viking_Denmark_VK286
0.18019418 Roman_Imperial_Italy:RMPR116

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5804% / 0.01580409
77.6 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
14.4 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
6.8 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
1.2 Roman_Imperial_Italy:RMPR116

Or if you want to see if you are related to the British Celts of Roman times:


Hinxton_AngloSaxon_Sample_HI1,0.129758,0.132019,0. 061471,0.04845,0.038469,0.018407,0.004465,0.007154 ,0.003477,0.001093,-0.002111,0.004946,-0.012487,-0.008395,0.018458,0.005171,-0.01004,0.00152,0.003771,0.004252,0.006489,0.00160 7,-0.000986,0.011447,0.001197
Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14,0.130896,0.126941,0.0693 9,0.060724,0.041546,0.021475,0.00611,0.010153,0.00 5113,-0.006196,-0.004872,0.004346,-0.010406,-0.009496,0.019544,0.011403,-0.002217,0.003167,0.004651,0.00913,0.007112,0.0040 8,0.004314,0.014219,0.001916
York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18,0.129758,0.136081 ,0.062599,0.049419,0.038161,0.019523,0.00423,0.005 769,0.005318,0.001458,-0.004547,0.005545,-0.013528,-0.011147,0.021172,0.00411,-0.01369,0.002027,0.003268,0.003252,0.004866,0.0017 31,-0.00037,0.013978,0.001437

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01502511 York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18
0.01761915 Hinxton_AngloSaxon_Sample_HI1
0.02774370 Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4932% / 0.01493242
93.4 York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18
6.6 Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.8083% / 0.01808303
100.0 Irish

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.01808303 Irish
0.02002220 Scottish
0.02258594 English
0.02288617 Dutch
0.03051652 Danish
0.03411535 Norwegian
0.03955354 French_Nord

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.8362% / 0.01836225
100.0 Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.01836225 Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age
0.02312640 Continental_Saxon
0.02828420 Viking_Age_Scandinavia

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.7225% / 0.01722499
100.0 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.01722499 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
0.01974466 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
0.02519299 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
0.02560703 Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin:I2031
0.03265453 Viking_Dublin_Ireland:VK542

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.7837% / 0.01783680
100.0 York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.01783680 York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18
0.02152194 Hinxton_AngloSaxon_Sample_HI1
0.03151343 Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14

The Models maybe need better Germanic samples. I'm sure I am mostly Insular Celtic, but not as Celtic as these results would suggest, but to be honest, G25 just isn't very good at telling Insular Celtic and Germanic apart, and I find AI will follow a narrative it thinks you want to hear, until you correct it, and then it will do a 360. According to AI, I am simultaneously the most Western Insular Celtic person alive, and the next time I use it, it thinks I'm Dutch.

celticdragongod
04-21-2026, 07:12 AM
Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.8083% / 0.01808303
100.0 Irish

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.01808303 Irish
0.02002220 Scottish
0.02258594 English
0.02288617 Dutch
0.03051652 Danish
0.03411535 Norwegian
0.03955354 French_Nord

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.8362% / 0.01836225
100.0 Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.01836225 Insular_Celtic_Iron_Age
0.02312640 Continental_Saxon
0.02828420 Viking_Age_Scandinavia

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.7225% / 0.01722499
100.0 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.01722499 Pict_Lundin_Links_IronAge:LUN001
0.01974466 Insular_Celt_England_IronAge:I0160
0.02519299 Anglo-Saxon_England_EarlyMedieval:I0157
0.02560703 Gaelic_Early_BronzeAge_Rathlin:I2031
0.03265453 Viking_Dublin_Ireland:VK542

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.7837% / 0.01783680
100.0 York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.01783680 York_Roman_Briton_Sample_6DRIF18
0.02152194 Hinxton_AngloSaxon_Sample_HI1
0.03151343 Oxford_Viking_Sample_VK14

The Models maybe need better Germanic samples. I'm sure I am mostly Insular Celtic, but not as Celtic as these results would suggest, but to be honest, G25 just isn't very good at telling Insular Celtic and Germanic apart, and I find AI will follow a narrative it thinks you want to hear, until you correct it, and then it will do a 360. According to AI, I am simultaneously the most Western Insular Celtic person alive, and the next time I use it, it thinks I'm Dutch.

The problem is that Germans and Insular Celts have similar levels of Steppe, EEF and WHG ancestry which makes them look more closely related than they actually are.

celticdragongod
04-21-2026, 10:37 PM
Another calculator - just for fun:


GBR_Cornwall_IA,0.130897,0.138112,0.061093,0.04586 6,0.038776,0.01506,0.004935,0.007154,0.007772,0.00 7654,-0.005359,0.009441,-0.017542,-0.012386,0.021037,0.004773,-0.015776,0.001647,0.003142,0.004127,0.004991,0.002 473,-0.001972,0.008314,-0.000359
Viking_Norway,0.126344,0.129988,0.071276,0.060724, 0.041854,0.023148,0.007755,0.010153,0.003886,-0.006925,-0.00406,0.006894,-0.011893,-0.012937,0.022937,0.012596,-0.001565,0.001774,0.005154,0.004377,0.007612,0.003 339,-0.000986,0.010483,0.001197
Baltic_IA,0.132035,0.123895,0.088623,0.096901,0.04 6162,0.038208,0.011281,0.014307,-0.001432,-0.043554,-0.001786,-0.013488,0.027056,0.027938,-0.013572,-0.001724,0.004955,0.000127,0.000754,0.011756,0.004 991,0.005441,0.005053,-0.012291,-0.001197
Danish,0.127482,0.129988,0.071653,0.062016,0.04154 6,0.023985,0.00752,0.009461,0.003272,-0.004191,-0.00406,0.004496,-0.011447,-0.011698,0.023208,0.013259,-0.001956,0.002027,0.006411,0.006753,0.008984,0.004 451,0.001109,0.012532,0.001437


Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02017494 GBR_Cornwall_IA
0.03091190 Danish
0.03141619 Viking_Norway
0.10792704 Baltic_IA

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8334% / 0.01833375
74.8 GBR_Cornwall_IA
25.2 Danish