Genetic composition of Germans?

[reboun]

I asked Gemini and it told me Germans are genetically:

50-60% Germanic

15-30% Celtic

10-20% Slavic

5-10% Roman

How true is it?

[renaissance12]

I asked Gemini and it told me Germans are genetically:

50-60% Germanic

15-30% Celtic

10-20% Slavic

5-10% Roman

How true is it?


Depends... south Germany and north Germany...?

[Benyzero]

Depends... south Germany and north Germany...?

Italian germany

[Sonny001]

Southern Germans have up to 20% Imperial Roman admixture.

[renaissance12]

Italian germany

It doesn't exist

[Peterski]

I asked Gemini and it told me Germans are genetically:

50-60% Germanic

15-30% Celtic

10-20% Slavic

5-10% Roman

How true is it?

Slavic is actually a bit higher than 20%:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?389373-Balto-Slavic-admixture-of-Germans

[celticdragongod]

Germans are more Steppe and WHG in the north while the south is more EEF.

[J. Ketch]

Did you ask Gemini what it based the figures on?

There's no evidence of significant 'Roman' ancestry in Germany (or anywhere north of the Alps), and the average German is more Celtic than Germanic.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-024-01888-7

[Figaro]

I've noticed AI will repeat genetic "old wives tales" a lot (speaking to the "Roman" input part here). People need to stop treating it like it has all the answers. Like folks have been saying, it depends regionally. Really, the different extremities of the country could constitute related-but-different ethnic groups, if we accept that the Dutch are a different nation from the Germans.

[reboun]

Depends... south Germany and north Germany...?

On average.

[Radegast]

soon: 15% Kurdish and 15% Turkish

[celticdragongod]

Did you ask Gemini what it based the figures on?

There's no evidence of significant 'Roman' ancestry in Germany (or anywhere north of the Alps), and the average German is more Celtic than Germanic.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-024-01888-7

Is that Continental or Insular Celtic?

[Flashball]

Is that Continental or Insular Celtic?

Continental, French-like.

[codex]

Is that Continental or Insular Celtic?

Did you really need to ask that question? It should be obvious.

[celticdragongod]

Continental, French-like.

Interesting because from the way i understand it, Continental Celts have more EEF and less Steppe than do Insular Celts.

[Flashball]

Interesting because from the way i understand it, Continental Celts have more EEF and less Steppe than do Insular Celts.

In an average group, yes, but within this "average" there are enormous variations, even within a single geographical area (for example, a specific commune in northeastern France some have more WHG-EEF ISH than others).

Insular have some continental Celts and a strong excess of Bell Beaker.

[renaissance12]

Did you ask Gemini what it based the figures on?

There's no evidence of significant 'Roman' ancestry in Germany (or anywhere north of the Alps), and the average German is more Celtic than Germanic.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-024-01888-7

10% is not "significant".. In South Germany "roman ancestry" could be 20% and in north Germany could be 5%..

[J. Ketch]

10% is not "significant".. In South Germany "roman ancestry" could be 20% and in north Germany could be 5%..

significant (adjective)
sufficiently great or important to be worthy of attention; noteworthy:
"a significant increase in sales"

The native Celtic ancestry in Southern Germany was almost Southern European-like (in some cases it was), it had more EEF than French Celts and is adequate to explain the southern shift there without any other influence.

[J. Ketch]

Is that Continental or Insular Celtic?
Not only Continental Celtic but practically proto-Celtic I believe.