Game taken offline after Islamic group complains

[Thorum]

"CAIRO (AP) — An influential Islamic group branded an online video game depicting religious figures fighting each other as offensive to Muslims and Christians and successfully demanded Tuesday that it be taken offline."

"'The computer game was incendiary in its content and offensive to Muslims and Christians. ... The game would serve no other purpose than to incite intolerance,' an OIC statement said."

Muslims offended again. I thought religion was supposed to make you strong? Then why all the crying from Muslims? And, really, who is being intolerant here?

[Beorn]

I have seen the game and must admit that it is very offensive as well as absolute horse manure.

Well done to the strong minded individuals who stood up for their beliefs.

[Thorum]

I have seen the game and must admit that it is very offensive as well as absolute horse manure.

Well done to the strong minded individuals who stood up for their beliefs.

Well, then, I wouldn't recommend you play the game. But please, don't decide for me what is best for me. Thanks for your concern though.

Yes, they did do a job "well done". Another example of religion shoving its beliefs and values on society. Cheers to ancient superstition!! :)

[Beorn]

Well, then, I wouldn't recommend you play the game. But please, don't decide for me what is best for me. Thanks for your concern though.

Is it your God or religion? No, so stop taking what doesn't belong to you; rake it through the mud and cry when people who do care for the religions want to stop this absolute lack of respect.


Another example of religion shoving its beliefs and values on society. Cheers to ancient superstition!! :)


When you say "religion", I take it you mean this new fangled religion called Atheism?

[Thorum]

Stop it, Wat, you slay me!! Hilarious!! :dielaughing:

[Beorn]

I am being serious. :)

Is it your God or religion?

[Thorum]

I am being serious. :)

Is it your God or religion?

Sorry, since their is no god or gods and religions only serve a deluded population, the question is unanswerable.

I asked 3 questions in the opening post. Care to answer those?

[Beorn]

Sorry, since their is no god or gods and religions only serve a deluded population, the question is unanswerable.

Is it your God or religion? Simple question.

[Thorum]

When you say "religion", I take it you mean this new fangled religion called Atheism?

No, Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (http://www.venganza.org/).

[Thorum]

Is it your God or religion? Simple question.

Simple answer, there are no such things as gods.

[Gooding]

"CAIRO (AP) — An influential Islamic group branded an online video game depicting religious figures fighting each other as offensive to Muslims and Christians and successfully demanded Tuesday that it be taken offline."

"'The computer game was incendiary in its content and offensive to Muslims and Christians. ... The game would serve no other purpose than to incite intolerance,' an OIC statement said."

Muslims offended again. I thought religion was supposed to make you strong? Then why all the crying from Muslims? And, really, who is being intolerant here?

Religion is supposed to make you strong.
:lol00002:

[Beorn]

Simple answer, there are no such things as gods.

No. The question to that answer would have been 'do you believe in the existence of Gods?'
As it was I asked you if the games contents were of your God or religion?

Seeing as you responded by declaring yourself not of the Christian or Muslim faith, and therefore not included in the games circle of reach, your opinion and outrage over the game being removed from the internet in my eyes in null and void.

If you wish for the world to slowly but surely decline further into an immoral world full of people who wish to offend others through their heartfelt beliefs, then so be it.

[Beorn]

I thought religion was supposed to make you strong?

It does. See the strength of which the religious muscle was flexed and had some pathetic game removed online.


Then why all the crying from Muslims?

I'm not sure, but I could hazard a guess that it was something to do with their heart and soul being displayed on the screen in such a offensive manner.


And, really, who is being intolerant here?

Does that question really need answering?

[Thorum]

No. The question to that answer would have been 'do you believe in the existence of Gods?'
As it was I asked you if the games contents were of your God or religion?

Seeing as you responded by declaring yourself not of the Christian or Muslim faith, and therefore not included in the games circle of reach, your opinion and outrage over the game being removed from the internet in my eyes in null and void.

If you wish for the world to slowly but surely decline further into an immoral world full of people who wish to offend others through their heartfelt beliefs, then so be it.

OK, you win.

[Psychonaut]

Those who cannot laugh at themselves, their beliefs and/or get offended whenever anyone else does come across, to me at least, as whiny little bitches (no offense to our lovely females here :)). Should I, as a Heathen, call up Marvel Comics and indignantly demand that they stop making the comic Thor because it's offensive to see them telling lies about him? No, that would be absurd. The actions of these Muslims are equally absurd and bitchy. I agree 100% with Thorum. If you don't want to see something, then don't look at it. If you don't want to play a game, don't play it. What I do is my business, and if I see fit to make an anti-Islamic game, then that's my goddamn business and it's got dick to do wit anyone else.

[Beorn]

I agree 100% with Thorum. If you don't want to see something, then don't look at it. If you don't want to play a game, don't play it. What I do is my business, and if I see fit to make an anti-Islamic game, then that's my goddamn business and it's got dick to do wit anyone else.

I see the logic.

I don't want to see child porn and will not look at it.
All people who don't want to look at it and want to put an end to child porn are all "whiny bitches".
What child pornographers do is their own business and it has dick to do with anyone else.

[Aemma]

I see the logic.

I don't want to see child porn and will not look at it.
All people who don't want to look at it and want to put an end to child porn are all "whiny bitches".
What child pornographers do is their own business and it has dick to do with anyone else.


I see what you're getting at Beornie, but I'm not wholly convinced that the issue of child pornography can be effectively used for comparative purposes. At the very minimum in my books, the viewing of child pornography is sexually deviant behaviour. It is just plum sick. On another level though, issues surrounding child pornography have very much to do with our Western world's social mores and taboos surrounding sexual matters. At the very minimum, the latter makes the issue of child pornography that much more emotionally charged I believe. Now compare that to issues of respect for other religions (I'm not sure how exactly I want to term this) in our Western world, and I doubt that the emotional charge, but more importantly the actor's true intent, is really on par with that of child pornography's.

In short, we, as in general Western society, don't accord the same level of abhorence to poking fun at the different spiritual beliefs that pepper the Greater World. We do however accord a more unified collective abhorence to sexually exploitative activities concerning the more vulnerable members of our society, in this case, our children.

To me, these two issues are greatly different in scope, intent and emotional charge if you will. And even more importantly, they are rightfully so.

Cheers Beornie!...Aemma

[Psychonaut]

I see the logic.

I don't want to see child porn and will not look at it.
All people who don't want to look at it and want to put an end to child porn are all "whiny bitches".
What child pornographers do is their own business and it has dick to do with anyone else.

Apples and oranges dude. Child pornography is unacceptable because children are molested in order for it to be produced. No one was harmed by this game. No one. People were offended, but no one was harmed.

[Beorn]

I was going to write a little disclaimer saying comparing this game to child pornography would be quite extreme, but then thought that all people viewing this thread would take it at the value I meant it and certainly not get offended by it.

Thank you Aemma for the little talk down.


In short, we, as in general Western society, don't accord the same level of abhorence to poking fun at the different spiritual beliefs that pepper the Greater World.

We used to. That is another sign of our inherent weakness and disability which pervades all corners of modern western society.

People do not care and respect other people's beliefs and dreams.
They toss all over it like it is theirs to treat it so.

It's always said that if you have nothing good to say about someone or something then you should respect the person(s) and say nothing at all.

If some bright spark wishes to demean significant religious icons then that person should be wise enough to know that people will react.

[Beorn]

“Faith Fighter” game unites religions in outrage (http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/2009/04/27/faith-fighter-game-unites-religions-in-outrage/)

Representatives of several major religions have called for (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Jesus_v_Muhammad_game_fuels_hatred&in_article_id=635709&in_page_id=34) a game by radical developers Molleindustria (http://www.molleindustria.org/en/home) to be removed from the internet because it is “deeply provocative” and “disrespectful”. Faith Fighter is a punch-up game for one or two players which involves bouts between Jesus, Mohammed, Ganesh, Buddha, Budai, and God Himself. According to its developers,
Faith Fighter is the ultimate fighting game for these dark times. Choose your belief and kick the shit out of your enemies. Give vent to your intolerance! Religious hate has never been so much fun.
Douglas Miller, pastor of the Link Church in Birmingham:
This game is going out of its way to upset people and I think it should be taken off the internet.
Playing violent video games will ultimately affect your behaviour and this game is deeply offensive and provocative.
A spokesman for the Leicester-based Federation of Muslim Organisations:
In the current climate, this game can only create fear about religion. Having images depicting Muhammad in this way is also very offensive to our faith.
And Brian Appleyard called it “an offensive, futile project”.

Has it occurred to any of them not to play it?
---(Has it occurred to any of you to simply not be so offensive?)---

Molleindustria is the brainchild of Italian artist and game designer Paolo Pedercini (http://www.molleindustria.org/paolo/paolo_pedercini.html). Other games in the stable (http://www.molleindustria.org/en/games) include Oligarchy, Queer Power, and the previously-banned (http://www.ecopolis.org/operation-pedopriest-banned/) Operation: Pedopriest.
Hope you’re not busy today.
Some "enlightened" responses from fellow "enlightened" members of the blog.


"I will fight and die for freedom of speech! My human given right to ‘offense’ anyone and also be offended!"His spelling and dogmatic idiocy "offense" me :rolleyes:


"Reading books based on fairytales which tell you how to live your life based on what some guy in the sky says will ultimatly affect your behaviour. And most of them are deaply offensive."Perhaps this delightfully "enlightened" person should read more: Perhaps a dictionary?


"Hate solves nothing. A mindset like that isn’t beneficial for anybody. Do you even consider the consequences of such actions? How can you be so devoid of remorse as to not even consider what you’re saying? “Let’s wipe out entire cultures because they don’t agree with me!”
It never fails to boggle me, the atheists who advocate a holocaust on religion. It is not the belief that is the problem. It is close-mindedness that is. You aren’t any better than the people who do oppress others. Elimination is not the answer. Think for a moment."
Glad to see that some people are still wise in a mad world.


If the future is all about offending people because of its perceived injustices in the past, then we are truly facing the end of society and reigning in the new dawn of immoralism.

[Thorum]

I am so very happy I don't get my "morals" from ancient, superstitious, backwards myths and dogma!!

[Beorn]

I am so very happy I don't get my "morals" from ancient, superstitious, backwards dogma!!

Why? Do you think it "moral" to accept the belittlement of people's beliefs?


“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

Jesus

“Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.”

Jesus

All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him.

Buddha

Do not overrate what you have received, nor envy others. He who envies others does not obtain peace of mind.

Buddha


Don't know about you, but the religion is sound. It is the people who are corrupt.

[Thorum]

Let me just go back to the original premise of this thread. I gave a concrete example of a religion(s) shoving its beliefs and values on the rest of the world. It has been done ever since man invented gods and religion.

[Beorn]

Let me just go back to the original premise of this thread. I gave a concrete example of a religion(s) shoving its beliefs and values on the rest of the world. It has been done ever since man invented gods and religion.

And what I am saying is that you constantly seem to define your belief(?) by continually comparing it to religion.
If I may be so bold, but what exactly has religion done to you to warrant such hatred and misunderstanding?

You harp on about religion shoving its beliefs and values on to others, yet fail to see that you and others do the exact same by imposing your beliefs and values on others.

[Thorum]

And what I am saying is that you constantly seem to define your belief(?) by continually comparing it to religion.
If I may be so bold, but what exactly has religion done to you to warrant such hatred and misunderstanding?

You harp on about religion shoving its beliefs and values on to others, yet fail to see that you and others do the exact same by imposing your beliefs and values on others.

One example why I dislike religion is the attack on my hometown of Washington by Muslims in 2001. It has also prevented me from playing a video game because it finds the game offensive.

I don't impose my beliefs and values on others. Religion does.

[Beorn]

One example why I dislike religion is the attack on my hometown of Washington by Muslims in 2001.

Considering that religion had been twisted into a vile excuse to murder people, and therefore not a true representation of the religion, I can't accept that as a valid excuse.

It sounds like you try to reason the attack by blindly blaming the nearest at hand.


It has also prevented me from playing a video game because it finds the game offensive.

Religion did not prevent you from playing the game. People who value the beliefs which are being mocked stopped you from playing the game.

It's a simple premise to understand. If you have something you value and love, and it is used by others to aid ridicule, you too would do everything to prevent this.


I don't impose my beliefs and values on others. Religion does.

Yes you do. You have the belief that people should be offended. I resent that stance and feel you are being imposing upon mine.

As I said before, the victim soon becomes the perpetrator.

[Thorum]

Considering that religion had been twisted into a vile excuse to murder people, and therefore not a true representation of the religion, I can't accept that as a valid excuse.

Religion hasn't been twisted. It quite clearly shows in the "books" that you are commanded by god to kill: Believe in Buddah, want your neighbor's wife, lie, don't remember the Sabbath, cheat on your husband, say god damn it jesussucksballs.........all these things you do under penalty of death.

Religion did not prevent you from playing the game. People who value the beliefs which are being mocked stopped you from playing the game.

Religion prevented me from playing the game.

Yes you do. You have the belief that people should be offended. I resent that stance and feel you are being imposing upon mine.

No, I don't. It is your choice to be offended. My beliefs can't offend you unless you let them. My beliefs are in my head, yours are pushed on the world..

[Psychonaut]

In case any of you guys wanted to play the game fr yourself to see just how "offensive" it is, there's a copy hosted right here (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/421199). After playing it, I have only one complaint: where the Hell was Thor? Being able to play a Street Fighter style game with Thor vs. Muhammed would've been pretty damn cool. :D

[Electronic God-Man]

I just beat the game as Jesus.

Is Xenu a god in Scientology by any chance? He's the secret boss at the end. LOL.

[Psychonaut]

Is Xenu a god in Scientology by any chance? He's the secret boss at the end. LOL.

Seriously!? Guess who's gonna go beat that game now...:thumb001:

[Electronic God-Man]

Seriously!? Guess who's gonna go beat that game now...:thumb001:

It's not hard at all. There are only like 5 people. You just have to beat everyone that you did not choose as yourself.

[Beorn]

New video game’s objective: Stop the spread of Christianity and Islam (http://www.wsls.com/sls/news/local/article/object_of_new_video_game_is_to_stop_the_spread_of_ christianity_and_islam/11957/)

Published: June 2, 2008

A video image released by the computer game’s creator showing an injured man may not appear to be graphic, but you may change your mind once you know who it is. It’s the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
The new game, not yet released, is giving a voice to the atheist community, that’s according to the game’s creator, a University of Virginia graduate student. He wouldn’t release his name, for fear of his safety.
“Atheists have never really had anything to speak for them like this. It’s the general atheist premise that the world might be a better place without some of those religions,” explained the creator of the game.
The object of the game is to stop the spread of Christianity and Islam by murdering Abraham and the authors of the Bible, before beheading Muhammad.

“This really just mirrors, you know, a lot of violence that we see,” explained the creator.
Barkley Thompson is a Reverend at Saint John’s Episcopal Church in downtown Roanoke. After hearing about the game and seeing its images he says it’s a sign of the times.
“I think that the images speak of a culture that as become obsessed with violence, I think that it is true in all demographics, but it seems to me particularly true of younger age groups,” said Thompson.

However, the game’s creator argues the game is not just violent and it has a message to young players, helping them imagine a time when the world’s two largest religions were new and less organized.
“It’s the idea of being able to go back in time and sort of nipping the problem in the bud,” said the game’s creator.