Mitt Romney's Family Baptized Ann Romney's Atheist Father into Mormon Church a Year After His Death

[CelticViking]

More questions are being raised about presidential candidate Mitt Romney's religion after it was revealed that he helped baptise his adamantly atheist father-in-law years after the man had died.
Edward Roderick Davies was Ann Romney's father and died in 1992 after living as a staunch atheist all his life.
Recently-discovered records show that, in keeping with their controversial tradition of posthumously baptising non-Mormons, a ceremony was held to invite Mr Davies into the Church of Latter Day Saints one year after he died



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093241/Mitt-Romneys-family-baptized-Ann-Romneys-atheist-father-Mormon-church-year-AFTER-death.html

[Mercury]

More questions? How is that odd? It's a Mormon tradition to baptise the dead. It predates the Mormon church and the tradition actually goes back to some early Christian churches.

[Supreme American]

Religious discrimination is all it is. They'd never question Jewish or Muslim religious rituals.

[European Loyalist]

From my perspective many if not all religious practices are odd in some way.

I guess the only reason this is news is because in the US Christianity is still very relevant and this custom in particular sticks out because the other Christians don't do it.

[Óttar]

The Mormon Church has an initiative to baptise everyone who has ever lived. It's better than the Protestants who believe Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great are in Hell. It's not like being baptised after death affects the deceased anyway.

[Seshomaru]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093241/Mitt-Romneys-family-baptized-Ann-Romneys-atheist-father-Mormon-church-year-AFTER-death.html

I suppose the implied theme is that this is somehow odd?


I'm curious as by the nature of your posts you seem to be of a pro-white sentiment. Do you realize that in all this world Mormons are probably the most radically racially conservative group of people in terms of white people?

Let me assure you the average Mormon has your little meaningless modern heathenism beat in racial conservativeness by about 800 to 1. I've met Nordic heathens in the real world. Trash doesn't really begin to describe most of them as trash denotes an actual title and these people are worthy of none.


Learn about something before you throw in with childish little Heathens on the internet. Leave that crap to Skadi and the housewife abuse wards.

[Seshomaru]

double post ah

[Aces High]

Seems like they cant dig any dirt upon him except this non news.

Wow....a presidential candidate with no skeletons in his closet......must be a first....how are they going to bribe him and twist his arm...:rolleyes:

[elone]

i don't understand how you can baptize the dead, especially ones who were non believers. baptism is a very personal thing in christianity, and it must be a choice made by that person, not by someone else, and not after they have already passed. i could understand that if he said his deathbed "i wanna be baptized" then that makes sense, but it seems as though he lived and died as an atheist without ever making an active change to christianity.

[Mercury]

I suppose the implied theme is that this is somehow odd?


I'm curious as by the nature of your posts you seem to be of a pro-white sentiment. Do you realize that in all this world Mormons are probably the most radically racially conservative group of people in terms of white people?

Let me assure you the average Mormon has your little meaningless modern heathenism beat in racial conservativeness by about 800 to 1. I've met Nordic heathens in the real world. Trash doesn't really begin to describe most of them as trash denotes an actual title and these people are worthy of none.


Learn about something before you throw in with childish little Heathens on the internet. Leave that crap to Skadi and the housewife abuse wards.


I'm noticing a theme to your posts. First of all, you have never met a Nordic heathen in your life. You have no right to tell anyone where to post, and we have no trouble with Skadi here. Second, she is posting an article not making any statement. If you were actually educated on the Latter Day Saints of Christ you would realize they haven't been pro-white in decades. That's why they send their missionaries to the shitholes of Latin America & Africa to convert Niggers and Spics, because they are trying to hide from their racialist past. Remember when going on these missions, you have a good chance at becoming seriously ill and the Mormon church does little to help. I use to post on several Mormon discussion boards and I can share with you all a story of a man who did a mission in some lovely Latin American nation:

"...I was very sick for most of my mission and nothing was done to help me. I mean constant diarrhea, vomiting, the works. And no bathroom or shower in the godforsaken areas they put me in. I had a plastic bucket to crap in and puke in the same sitting. I nearly died. After months of hell, and being the victim of lies from my companion, which got him promoted and me an even worse area, again thanks to the inspiration of the Mission President, I ended up with typhoid and a 106 temp. I stopped eating for a week until a doctor came and saved my life. I couldn't get out of bed. I almost died again. Did ANYONE from the mission, the Doc, the Pres, anyone help me or do anything for me? No. Nothing. When I arrived in the mission I was a ripped 190. When I left I weighed 120. I can't remember a lot of my younger years since the weeks with that fever. My memories are gone, blanks. Stolen by the Mormon Church. When I arrived home, the final note to my mission was the interview with the Stake President to release me where he told me to lie about everything bad. And the sad thing is that wasn't my turning point. I did lie. But no more. No, my future kids will never serve missions. I place the blame for my injuries, mental and physical, squarely where they belong with the total fraud of the church, that stake president, and that mission president. And that isn't half of what I've suffered at the hands of the church before and after my mission. "


Again, the Mormon church has exiled all the pro-white Mormons. Otherwise there wouldn't be various, fringe spin-offs such as the Second Book of Commandments people. Like any religion they do not give a shit about racial purity, rather they care about expanding their religion. And to be frank, white people are increasingly becoming atheistic, so they're looking for a new base.

Is the average Mormon racist as you claim? Yes. is the average white person racist? Yes. Doesn't matter the religion or lack of religion, science and statistics essentially prove people are still racists, but they just try to keep it in the closet.

Even if Mormonism were a vehicle for racialism it doesn't matter. Too many egotistical, nutty Mormon 'prophets' have made one too many wacky statements over the years that completely discredit the religion to the average man. Adam being God? Quakers on the Moon? Man will never go to the moon? Tapirs are horses? All Native Americans are descendants of the Israelites, and not just some? There's too much horse shit in the BOM & LDS church.

http://www.salamandersociety.com/media/movies/tapir_whisperer/thanks_for_nothing_battletapir.jpg

[CelticViking]

double post ah

Chill out :rolleyes:

This:

she is posting an article, not making any statement.

[Seshomaru]

I just dislike Heathens.

Nordic heathenism has been dead for over 500 years. The idea that random under 30's on the internet have revived it in some myopic sense of misplaced association slash rebellion is honestly insulting to whatever the true heathens actually believed way back when.

(Though I've no doubt you all have meticulously revived Norse heathenism to its exact parameters through some misplaced sentiment to which you've all somehow interlaced it with your views):rolleyes2:

You can't recreate Norse heathenism. It was tailored to a very certain environment and people all in a very exact time frame. It cannot at all be recreated by modern people. It is history.

It is like a Japanese person saying they are living as Samurai. This is not possible and they will never fully recreate that world because it is long gone. The very idea is insulting to that age.

[Aces High]

It is like a Japanese person saying they are living as Samurai. This is not possible and they will never fully recreate that world because it is long gone. The very idea is insulting to that age.

I disagree,you can live by the principals of your ancestors if you like....i live my life by NS principals and dont give a fuck about the status quo,because inside my head lives my reality and not some fashioned reality that comes via California that is pleasing to the eye and conforms to modern standards.

Japanese people can live by Samuri principles if they have the brains and ingenuity to adapt that lifestyle to today....the yakuza seem to do a good job.

Same as Heathens/pagans etc,whoseto say they cant adapt their beliefs to the modern age.

[Flintlocke]

Same as Heathens/pagans etc,whoseto say they cant adapt their beliefs to the modern age.

When are we raiding Hibernia? :viking1:

[Seshomaru]

I disagree,you can live by the principals of your ancestors if you like....i live my life by NS principals and dont give a fuck about the status quo,because inside my head lives my reality and not some fashioned reality that comes via California that is pleasing to the eye and conforms to modern standards.

Japanese people can live by Samuri principles if they have the brains and ingenuity to adapt that lifestyle to today....the yakuza seem to do a good job.

Same as Heathens/pagans etc,whoseto say they cant adapt their beliefs to the modern age.

This is not true though. Hitler's Germany was still Christian at the end of the day, as was Hitler himself in his own way from his own words. Most Germans were Christian. Heathens in Nazi Germany represented less than 1% of the population.

Modern heathens are not heathens of old, they are modern heathens, which is a kind way of saying they're pretending to be heathens from a time lost. The two are not the same. Norse heathenism was dead for over 500 years. It died. Nobody in modern times has enough understanding or experience to revive it. A modern person is incapable of recreating those times that brought on Norse heathenism to its followers the same with the Samurai. If you can't recreate the environment to which heathenism made sense (which you can't) then you can't recreate Norse heathenism or Japanese Samurai.

Of course the Samurai are different somewhat because most of their beliefs still were connected to the Japanese religion which still is Japans default belief system, compared to Norse heathenism which completely died out.


Then again let us not underestimate the Asatru movement in the U.S. prison system. Surely those NS heathens have rekindled fully Norse heathenism. Right.

[CelticViking]

Then again let us not underestimate the Asatru movement in the U.S. prison system. Surely those NS heathens have rekindled fully Norse heathenism. Right.

There are Christian and Atheist people in jail too.

[Aces High]

This is not true

Yes it is.

[Seshomaru]

Yes it is.

What is? Less than 1% of Nazi Germany was heathen. Hitler wasn't he simply enjoyed the occult.

There is no actual Norse heathenism connection to Nazism and never was. The white nigger trash in Western prison systems and on the internet do not represent legitimate Norse heathenism and never have.

[Aces High]

What is?

What i said.

[Seshomaru]

What i said.

Thought so :)