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Peterski
07-08-2026, 12:56 AM
Ten Most Common Ashkenazi Paternal Lineages:
(altogether they are 55% of Ashkenazi Y-DNA)

1. Haplogroup R1a-Z93-Y2619 (typically Jewish R1a type):

Frequency in Ashkenazi Jews: approximately 8.6% of the population
TMRCA Ancestor Lifetime (YFull): ca. 700 CE
TMRCA Ancestor Lifetime (Behar): ca. 250 CE

Main subbranches:

R-BY29826 (TMRCA: no data)

R-FGC18222 (TMRCA: 850 CE)
- also found in Jews from Iraq and Algeria, but these are descendants of Ashkenazi lineages (TMRCA: 1725 CE)

R-Y2630 (main branch; TMRCA: 950 CE)
- also found in Jews from Turkey (in multiple descendant lines)

Paternal branch:

R1a-CTS6 (TMRCA: 900 BCE)
- basal clades detected in: Persians from Kerman, Egyptians
- in fossil DNA from an ancient Scythian dating to approximately 1050 BCE

Fraternal branches:

R1a-Y37891 (TMRCA: 650 CE)
- exists among the Persians from Kerman, Azeris from Iran, and Yazidis from Iraq

R1a-CTS7297 (TMRCA: 900 BCE)
- exists amog the Armenians, Azeris from Iran

Grandparental branch:

R1a-F1345 (TMRCA: 1900 BCE)

Uncle branches:

R1a-YP5484 (TMRCA: 1050 CE)
- exists among the Palestinians from Galilee

R-F2935 (TMRCA: 1700 BCE)
- exists among the Turks from the Black Sea, the Balkars

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2. Haplogroup J2a-M92-L556:

Frequency in Ashkenazi Jews: approx. 7.6% of the total
TMRCA ancestor's life time (YFull): approx. 850 CE

Main subbranches:

J-Y9005 (TMRCA: 1250 CE)
- the subbranches split shortly after the TMRCA found in a Venetian Italian and a Bulgarian

J-Y11782 (TMRCA: 1050 CE)
- further splits into Y22280 (TMRCA: c. 1150 CE) and Y13373 (TMRCA: c. 1500 CE)

Paternal branch:

J-Y20051 (TMRCA: 4200 BCE) - possible basal clades exist in Pakistan

Fraternal branch:

J-S19243 (TMRCA: 1250 CE) - all carriers are from Saudi Arabia

Grandparental branch:

J-Y20492 (TMRCA: 4200 BCE)
- basal clade: in Sardinia

Uncle branch:

J-ZS6172 (TMRCA: 900 CE)
- western Turkey, Armenia, Italy Calabria

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3. Haplogroup G2b-M377-Y12975:

Frequency in Ashkenazi Jews: approx. 7.6% of the population
TMRCA ancestor's life time (YFull): approx. 900 CE

Main subbranches:

G-Y14600 (TMRCA: 950 CE)
G-Y15861 (TMRCA: 1050 CE)

Paternal branch:

G-Y12297 (TMRCA: 2700 BCE)

Fraternal branch:

G-M3124 (TMRCA: 1250 CE)
- found among the Pashtuns of Afghanistan, the Punjabis, and Sicilians

Grandparental branch:

G-M377 (TMRCA: 6500 BCE)
- found among the Lebanese, Syrians, Armenians, Tajiks, Sicily, and Naples

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4. Haplogroup Q1b-L245-Y2200:

Frequency in Ashkenazi Jews: approx. 6.4% of the population
TMRCA ancestor's life time (YFull): ca. 450 CE

Main subbranches:

Q-YP1003 (TMRCA: 600 CE)
- according to Gurianow 2015, found in a single Chinese individual (likely a descendant of a Silk Road merchant)

Q-Y2197 (TMRCA: 700 CE)

Paternal branch:

Q-Y2225 (TMRCA: 500 BCE)

Fraternal branch:

Q-FGC10659 (TMRCA: 1875 BCE)
- exists among Italians

Grandparental branch:

Q-Y2209 (TMRCA: 1400 BCE)
- basal clades: Jordanians, Lebanese, Omanis

Associate branches:

Q-FGC2020
- exists among Turks

Q-BZ1
- exists in Italy

Q-BZ3000 (TMRCA: 750 CE)
- presence in the Balkans

Q-YP730 (TMRCA: 900 BCE)
- presence in Germany, the Netherlands and China

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5. Haplogroup E1b-L791-Y6923:

Frequency in Ashkenazi Jews: approx. 5.6% of the population
TMRCA ancestor's lifetime (YFull): approx. 400 CE (Main subbranch: 700 CE)

Main subbranches:

E-Y102667 (TMRCA: 400 CE)
- splits into Y102667* (Jews from Libya) and Y99093 (TMRCA: 650 CE, Jews from Tunisia and Turkey)
- also includes Jews from Algeria and Latin Americans (Puerto Rico, Mexico, Peru)
- probably also among Ashkenazim (according to Behar 2017)

E-Y6938 (TMRCA: 700 CE)
- main division into Y133118 (TMRCA: 950 CE) and more frequent Z36123 (TMRCA: 750 CE)
- exists among Ashkenazim, also found, among others, among the Polish Tatars

Paternal branch:

E-Y6926 (TMRCA: ca. 1550 BCE)

Fraternal branch:

E-Y6926*
- exists in Oman and the United Arab Emirates with the Al-Bulushi clan

Grandparental branch:

E-Y4971 (TMRCA: 3500 BCE)
- basal clades found in the United Arab Emirates, among Polish Jews and Russian Jews

Associate branches:

E-Y4972 (TMRCA: 3000 BCE) - among:
Romaniote Jews, Armenians, Palestinians, Iraqis, Kuwaitis, Arabs from the Emirates, Jews from Germany, etc.

E-BY36592 (TMRCA: no data)
- among the Iraqis

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6. Haplogroup J1-ZS227-Y5400 (S12192) - Kohanim branch (just like rest of Z18271):

Frequency in Ashkenazi Jews: approx. 5.0% of the population
TMRCA lifetime of common ancestor (YFull): ca. 400 CE

Main subbranches:

J-Y31161 (TMRCA: 400 CE)
J-Y5399 (TMRCA: 950 CE)

Possible basal clades in Morocco, Algeria, and among Ashkenazim.

Paternal branch:

J-Y3088 (Y18271) (TMRCA: 900 BCE)
- Found in Turkey, Sardinia, Lebanon, Greece, Yemenite Jews, Mexico, El Salvador, Peru, Puerto Rico, and England

Fraternal branches:

J-ZS2432 (TMRCA: 750 CE)
- Found in Ashkenazi Jews

J-ZS2458 (TMRCA: 800 BCE)
- Found in Iraq

J-FGC17491 (TMRCA: 250 CE)
- Found in Morocco, Portugal, Spain, Mexico, and Ashkenazi Jews

J-ZS237 (TMRCA: no data)
- Found in Italy

Grandparental branch:

J-S0075 (ZS227) (TMRCA: 3400 BCe)
- Possible basal clades in Iraq, Kuwait, French Jews, Ashkenazim, Rhineland Jews, and Portuguese Jews
- According to JewishDNA.net, it occurs in Jews from Turkey, Italy (Italian Jews), Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt

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7. Haplogroup J2a-L210-Y15223 (Z30390):

Frequency in Ashkenazim: approx. 4.0% of the population
TMRCA common ancestor (YFull): approx. 550 CE

Main subbranches:

J-BY194993 (TMRCA: 1250 CE)

J-Y15238 (TMRCA: 1100 CE)
- occurs in Jews from Germany in YFull (three from Bavaria, one from the Rhineland)

J-Y24492 (TMRCA: 550 CE)

Basal clades - among Ashkenazim.

Paternal branch:

J-Y15222 (TMRCA: 600 BCE)
- basal clades in Basilicata and Lombardy, possibly in France and Ireland as well.

Grandparental branch:

J-Z482 (TMRCA: 2900 BCE)
- basal clade in Jews from Ukraine, also possible, among others, in Italy or Spain

Associate branch:
- J-Z478 (TMRCA: no data)
- occurs in Tuscany

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8. Haplogroup E1b-M84-Y14891:

Frequency in Ashkenazi Jews: approx. 4.0% of the population
TMRCA lifetime of common ancestor (YFull): ca. 800 CE

Main subbranches:

E-Z36149 (TMRCA: 1250 CE)
- found in Jews from Germany (Rhineland, Bavaria, Baden), Jews from Alsace, and Jews from the Netherlands

E-Y16781 (TMRCA: 800 CE)
- more numerous, occurs, among others in Jews from Germany and a Jew from Venice (probably Ashkenazi)

Paternal branch:

E-Y14899 (TMRCA: 5500 BCE)
- found in Jews from Syria

Fraternal branches:

E-F1539 (TMRCA: 300 CE)
- found in Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates

E-Y14899* (BY63615?)
- found in Palestinian Christians from Birzeit and a Greek Cypriot with possible Pontic origins

Grandparental branch:

E-FGC18353 (TMRCA: 5500 BCE)

Uncle branch:

E-Y5435 (TMRCA: 4000 BCE)
- Found in Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Iranian Kurds, Sardinia, Algeria, Lebanon, Bahrain, Palestinians, Turkey, Iraq, Italy, and in individuals in Poland, Sweden, Hungary, Switzerland, Austria, and England, among others.
- A highly diversified descendant lineage, E-FGC18401 (TMRCA: 1100 BCE), occurs primarily, but not exclusively, in Europe.

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9. Haplogroup J1-L817-L816:

Frequency in Ashkenazi Jews: approx. 3.3% of the population.
TMRCA lifetime of the common ancestor (YFull): approx. 850 CE.

Main subbranches:

J-Y34527 (TMRCA: 1350 CE)
- found in German Jews, Spaniards, and Mexicans from Nuevo León

J-ZS2728 (TMRCA: 900 CE)
- much more numerous, including basal lineages found in Spain

Possible basal clades also include Syrian (Jew?), Greek (Jew?), and Ashkenazi.

Paternal branch:

J-L818 (TMRCA: 1900 BCE)
Possible basal lineages among Turks (Kurds?), Syrians, Saudis, Italians, and Germans (Jew?).

Grandparental branch:

J-L817 (TMRCA: 4600 BCE)
- according to YTree is the basal lineage from Sardinia.

Fraternal branch:

J-ZS5383 (TMRCA: no data)
- not on YTree
- found in Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Palestinians, and Iraq.

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10. Haplogroup R1b-U106-Y5051:

Could this be the male lineage of those who introduced Yiddish into the community?:

Frequency in Ashkenazi Jews: approx. 2.9% of the population
TMRCA lifetime of the common ancestor (YFull): approx. 500 CE

Main subbranches:

R-Y5051*
- found in Portugal, Mexico, Brazil, and Spain

R-FGC8591 (TMRCA: 850 CE)
- derived from R-FGC8564 (TMRCA: 500 CE)

R-A689 (TMRCA: 1200 CE)
- derived from R-FGC8564 (TMRCA: 500 CE)
- found in Jews from Turkey

Paternal branch:

R-Y3464 (FGC8587) (TMRCA: 500 CE)
- basal clades found in an Englishman and possibly another Englishman and a Swede

Grandparental branch:

R-Y3462 (TMRCA: 100 AD)

Fraternal branch:

R-Y101927 (TMRCA: 1200 AD)
- occurs in, among others, one Englishman and possibly one German

Dick
07-08-2026, 05:10 AM
burn this non-I1 religious cult with fire

Steven Parker
07-08-2026, 12:53 PM
Hi Peterski,

I posted your thread on my site and included a Google Drive PDF copy of the thread.

The article on my site most relevant to this discussion, and the best place for you to reply, is this one:

Ashkenazi Y-DNA, Southern Italy, and Wikipedia’s Genetic Slop (https://ashkenaziresearch.org/2026/05/20/ashkenazi-y-dna-southern-italy-and-wikipedias-genetic-slop/)

I also discuss the Y-DNA issue in more detail in my preprint here:

How Ashkenazi Origins Were Mis-modeled: Southern Italian Ancestry, Proxy Bias, and the Illusion of Levantine Intermediacy (https://doi.org/10.22541/au.176851539.93694915/v2)

The main issue is that Ashkenazi Y-DNA is constantly being overinterpreted. Y-DNA is one uniparental marker. It follows only one paternal line per generation. In males, the Y chromosome is one chromosome out of 46 chromosomes. It is not the autosomal genome, and it cannot be used by itself to define the population origin of Ashkenazi Jews.

This is especially important for Ashkenazim because the population experienced severe founder effects, bottlenecks, drift, and long-term endogamy. A paternal lineage can become common because one male line expanded inside a small founder population. That does not mean the whole population came from the geographic region associated with that haplogroup label.

Your list is useful, but it actually shows why the standard Levantine-fathers narrative is too simplistic. Many of the lineages you list are not Levant-specific at all. They point to broader Mediterranean, Anatolian, Aegean, Italian, or west Eurasian networks.

For example, your J2a-M92-L556 entry includes a Venetian Italian, Calabria, western Turkey, and Armenia. That is not a clean Levantine signal. It fits a central and eastern Mediterranean context.

Your G2b-M377-Y12975 entry includes Sicilians, Sicily, and Naples. Again, that is directly relevant to a southern Italian and central Mediterranean origin model.

Your Q1b-L245-Y2200 entry includes Italians, Italy, the Balkans, and Turks among related or associated branches. That does not support a simple Levantine interpretation either.

Your J1-ZS227-Y5400 entry is also not cleanly Levantine. You list Turkey, Sardinia, Lebanon, Greece, Italy, Italian Jews, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, Portugal, Spain, and Ashkenazim. That is a Mediterranean Jewish and Mediterranean coastal distribution, not a narrow Levantine source by itself.

Your J2a-L210-Y15223 entry includes Basilicata, Lombardy, Tuscany, and possible Italy or Spain. That is directly relevant to Italian and broader Mediterranean structure.

Your E1b-M84-Y14891 entry includes Syria, Kuwait, the Emirates, Greek Cypriot or possible Pontic origin, Sardinia, Turkey, Italy, and a broad Mediterranean distribution. Again, this is not geographically diagnostic of the Levant.

Your J1-L817-L816 entry includes Sardinia, Spain, possible Greek and Italian lines, Turks, Syrians, Saudis, Germans, Palestinians, Yemenis, and Iraqis. That is a wide Mediterranean and Near Eastern distribution, not proof of an Ashkenazi Levantine paternal majority.

Even your R1a-Z93-Y2619 entry is not straightforwardly Levantine. You list Persians from Kerman, Egyptians, an ancient Scythian, Azeris from Iran, Armenians, Yazidis from Iraq, Turks from the Black Sea, Balkars, Jews from Turkey, and Palestinians from Galilee. That is a broad Iranian, Anatolian, Caucasus, steppe, and eastern Mediterranean context. It cannot simply be collapsed into Levantine paternal origin.

So the problem is not the existence of these haplogroups. The problem is the way they are interpreted. A clade being found somewhere in the Levant, Arabia, Anatolia, Italy, or the Caucasus does not automatically tell us where the Ashkenazi branch entered the ancestral population. To answer that, you need subclade structure, TMRCA, basal diversity, regional comparators, and autosomal context.

This is exactly where the peer-reviewed Ashkenazi Y-DNA literature has been weak. The studies usually cited for Ashkenazi paternal origin are mostly old, low-resolution, and comparator-poor. Some have very small Ashkenazi sample sizes. Shen 2004 had around 20 Ashkenazi samples. Nebel 2001 had around 79. Behar 2004 had a larger Ashkenazi sample, around 442, but still used coarse haplogroup resolution and lacked the relevant Southern European comparators. Hammer 2009 was large, but pooled Ashkenazi and non-Ashkenazi Jews and did not report Ashkenazi-specific subgroup frequencies.

The exception is Semino 2004, which actually included Southern Italian comparators. Once Southern Italians are included, the usual story becomes much weaker. Ashkenazi J2 and E-M123 fall within Southern Italian ranges, while Levantine populations are generally more J1-dominant. That is a very different paternal structure from the one people keep implying when they treat J, J2, or E as automatically Levantine.

This is the core problem. The public narrative takes old Y-DNA studies, many of which lack Southern Italians, Sicilians, Aegean Greeks, Maltese, and Italian Jews, and then uses those omissions to manufacture a false contrast between Levantine fathers and European mothers.

But the historically relevant comparator is not Northern Italy, Tuscany, Germany, Poland, or generic Europe. The historically relevant comparator is the central Mediterranean, especially Southern Italy, Sicily, the Aegean, western Anatolia, and Italian Jews.

Italian Jews are especially important. Italkim are not a side issue. They are central to the historical formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Jewish communities existed in southern Italy and Sicily from antiquity, long before the later Ashkenazi migration into the Rhineland and eastern Europe. If Italian Jews cluster with Western Ashkenazim, Southern Italians, Sicilians, Maltese, and Aegean islanders, that cannot be brushed aside as a coincidence caused by Israelite fathers plus highly admixed Northern Italian mothers plus Slavic pull.

That explanation is historically backwards and genetically circular. It ignores the actual geography of Jewish settlement in antiquity and Late Antiquity. It also ignores the most relevant internal Jewish control population: Italkim.

The real question is not whether Ashkenazi Jews have any eastern Mediterranean or Levantine-related ancestry. They probably do. The question is whether the Y-DNA evidence supports the oversold claim of a predominantly Levantine paternal origin. It does not.

At most, the Y-DNA shows a set of founder-amplified paternal lineages inside a population whose genome-wide structure is overwhelmingly central Mediterranean and Southern European. Many of the Y lineages themselves are compatible with southern Italian, Aegean, Anatolian, or broader Mediterranean origins. They are not proof of a Levantine male majority.

So I think your list is useful, but it should be interpreted against the actual methodological problem: Y-DNA is only one uniparental marker, Ashkenazi Y-DNA is heavily shaped by drift and founder effects, and the older peer-reviewed studies are inadequate because they usually exclude the very populations most relevant to Ashkenazi ethnogenesis.

Without Southern Italians, Sicilians, Aegean Greeks, Maltese, and Italian Jews, the Levantine-fathers model is not a result. It is a reference-population artifact.

Opie
07-08-2026, 03:44 PM
How many of Haplogroup R1a-Z93 are Khazar?

Kowalski
07-08-2026, 04:08 PM
I'm 25% Ashkenazi Jewish by father + 75% Russian.

My Y-DNA: R1a-M417 (R1a1a1).
My mtDNA: J1c12.