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Jaska
02-13-2012, 02:04 AM
Uralic evidence for the Indo-European homeland
http://www.mv.helsinki.fi/home/jphakkin/UralicEvidence.xps
http://www.mv.helsinki.fi/home/jphakkin/UralicEvidence.pdf

Conclusion in one picture:
http://postimage.org/image/q4md6jqaf/

Osweo
02-13-2012, 02:29 AM
Thanks!

I don't quite agree with the reasoning, though. It makes Uralic younger, which I cannot argue for or against, but then says that Proto Uralic must have been present near the junction of Proto Aryan and NW Indo-European.

Okay... That's great, but why is it impossible that Proto Aryan represents a rapid eastward expansion from an earlier Central European Urheimat??? I don't see this proving Kurgan.

(How Semitic and Caucasian influences got into the Central EUro homeland is a good question, but can be answered by reference to simple wanderwords, and by greater prehistoric distribution of these languages (c.f. 'Caucasian' in the early Aegean))

Jaska
04-05-2012, 06:10 PM
Thanks!

I don't quite agree with the reasoning, though. It makes Uralic younger, which I cannot argue for or against, but then says that Proto Uralic must have been present near the junction of Proto Aryan and NW Indo-European.

Okay... That's great, but why is it impossible that Proto Aryan represents a rapid eastward expansion from an earlier Central European Urheimat??? I don't see this proving Kurgan.
You see those all Aryan loanword layers? Since the first signs of Early Proto-Aryan it was spoken close to Proto-Uralic. It is very difficult to derive both Early Proto-Aryan and its sister dialect Northwest Indo-European from Central Europe so that they would not have been changed more different in their long journey to the Middle Volga. Steppe homeland is thus much more plausible.



(How Semitic and Caucasian influences got into the Central EUro homeland is a good question, but can be answered by reference to simple wanderwords, and by greater prehistoric distribution of these languages (c.f. 'Caucasian' in the early Aegean))
Strange then that there are no Chinese wanderwords in PIE... Central Europe is just too incredible to explain ALL the contacts: Uralic, Kartvelian and Semitic.

You can still say that Central European homeland would be in theory possible, but you must admit that it is much more weaker by its probability than the steppe homeland.