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Vulpix
05-06-2009, 03:09 PM
Fast food chain KFC converts eight London restaurants to halal-only menu (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1177969/Fast-food-chain-KFC-converts-London-restaurants-halal-menu.html)



Kentucky Fried Chicken is to launch a halal-only menu in eight of its London stores

Fast food giant Kentucky Fried Chicken is to launch a halal-only menu in eight of its London stores in a move which could be extended to other areas of the UK.
The menu, which will form part of a trial, will see the stores selling chicken products which have been fully approved by the Halal Food Authority for the first time.
KFC has 720 stores across the UK, and bosses said the move was designed to ensure the company was catering to a broader range of customers, following a growing demand for halal products.
It is the latest fast food chain to introduce a halal-only menu after Domino's launched one at a Birmingham store in February.

From this week, KFC bargain buckets, crispy strips and family feasts bought in certain outlets serving high Muslim populations will all have the halal-approved stamp.
The fast-food chain has so far converted eight of its London restaurants to sell the meat, in areas including Forest Gate, West Ham, Tottenham and Bethnal Green.
The chosen branches, which also include those in Beckton, Leyton, Edmonton and Hounslow, will have a logo on the door telling visitors that all food served has been fully approved by the Halal Food Authority (HFA).
As Muslims cannot eat pork, the Halal branches have removed the Big Daddy burger from the menu as it contains bacon.

KFC's scheme will be trialled over the summer, but if it proves a success dozens more branches across the country are expected to follow suit and become halal-only.
The company said halal menus could be launched in other stores where large numbers of Muslim customers are based and 'where there is demand'.
Over the next few months it will closely monitor customer feedback in the chosen outlets and if it is good they will be permanently converted to 100 per cent halal.
The move follows a similar decision made by Dominos Pizza, which launched a halal only menu at its Hall Green store in Birmingham earlier this year amid a storm of controversy.
Domino's said the change has improved business despite an initial backlash from non-halal customers who complained they were not able to order pizzas such as the Meteor which contains pepperoni, sausage, meatballs and bacon.
But KFC insists that the taste of its chicken will remain 'finger-lickin good' and that it has only converted branches where there are other non-halal ones within a two-mile radius.
KFC vice-president of marketing Jennelle Tilling said: 'We want to see how customers respond to the trial, to see if this is something that allows us to make our great tasting food available to a broader range of customers.'
A spokesman for KFC said the food would still taste the same as it ever had and that the fast food giant will use existing suppliers to provide the stores with halal meat.
'This is taking place in areas where there is a high demand for halal and where they is another KFC outlet within two miles for those who do not want it,' he said.

'It is just a chance for us to see if it is something our customers really want or not.'

Halal means any item on the menu which may contain bacon, ham or pork must be removed and all the chicken must by halal-approved.
Under the rules, the animal should be killed by having its throat cut by a Muslim and any flowing blood of the carcass should be completely drained.
Animals cannot be eaten if they have died of natural causes and have to have been killed.

The chain has also moved to assure customers that its halal certified chicken would meet the rigorous animal welfare standards used across the UK.
Masood Khawaja, President of the Halal Food Authority, welcomed the trial and said it was good news for the Muslim community.
'Having worked with KFC closely, Halal Food Authority is delighted to accredit the usage of the HFA logo and symbol of approval on endorsed products,' Mr Khawaja said.

'The Muslim community can now enjoy all the products in this trial in eight participating halal-approved restaurants, as these have been procured with full adherence to both Islamic dietary rules and relevant EU hygiene, food safety and animal welfare regulations.'

Beorn
05-06-2009, 03:22 PM
As if it wasn't bad enough that the place was full of the detritus of the black community, that we know have the Abdul's and Muhammad's with their families dominating the place.

It reminds me of the time I spent in a homeless hostel in Bristol.
It was owned by a devout Muslim who forbade the residents from eating the government paid breakfasts allocated to the residents because it would contain pork and the sort.

Out of fifty odd rooms, there was only one Muslim family.

The owner would only allow eggs on toast and cereal and it was to be served from 6am to 7am on the dot.

You can imagine that already he has made a fortune from not serving the full breakfast and to then state that homeless people, ie: Drunks, druggies and others, would all be up at 6am to eat eggs on toast and cereal.

God that place sucked.

It was guarded by fully dark negros with a love for trying to convert the residents with their religion.
The leaflets they would hand out were amazing.
It was from that experience that I learnt the rocks being commanded to call out the presence of Jews to the Muslims.

Thorum
05-06-2009, 03:41 PM
I think it is a great idea and gesture. We wouldn't want to offend the Muslims and we should respect and honor their beliefs.

Beorn
05-06-2009, 03:42 PM
I think it is a great idea and gesture. We wouldn't want to offend the Muslims and we should respect and honor their beliefs.

In their own country, agreed! :thumbs up

Thorum
05-06-2009, 03:44 PM
In their own country, agreed! :thumbs up

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Perhaps you misunderstood. They live in England. England is their home. They should be accorded all due respect and honor for their beliefs.

The Lawspeaker
05-06-2009, 03:49 PM
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Perhaps you misunderstood. They live in England. England is their home. They should be accorded all due respect and honor for their beliefs.
I assume you are being sarcastic ?:D

Beorn
05-06-2009, 03:55 PM
Perhaps you misunderstood. They live in England. England is their home. They should be accorded all due respect and honor for their beliefs.

I'm getting bored of all this now.

"They", as in the Muslims, are not a part of this country. They are aliens. They are not apart of this culture and customs and their religion is as inalienable as any religion could be.

If they wish to have halal meat shops in their community which provides specifically for their community, then that is fine by me and will not raise any concerns from me.

If they decide they want to encroach upon the culture and beliefs of this nation - and let's not beat about the bush here; England is a Christian nation and has enjoyed its culinary tradition with the Pig - then they will be meeting the two fingers of this white, English, Christian with pure fucking hatred.

Now, if it was their country in the Middle east somewhere, say Iraq, and KFC were to alter their menus from halal to the introduction of pork, guess who would be amongst the first to raise a chord of abuse?

Susi
05-07-2009, 05:21 AM
Who cares about KFC? It's not as if it's the high cultural institution. Besides that they may even be owned by MUslims in the first place... And KFC, fast food places have no qualms about having halal food in their outlets in the Middle East..

anonymaus
05-07-2009, 07:01 AM
I think it's important to point out the distinction between the way business and gov't operate: KFC is making changes and taking chances to seek profit, gov't doesn't make policy based on profit (although corrupt members of it do!).

If a council or parliament were using their power to force KFC or other private industries to service any individual or group I would really have my back up.

Vargtand
05-07-2009, 07:35 AM
Catering to a broader range of customers? I and most swedes I know at least would never buy Halal products...

anonymaus
05-07-2009, 07:41 AM
Catering to a broader range of customers? I and most swedes I know at least would never buy Halal products...

Well, since this story is about KFC (are there any franchises at all in Sweden?) and in the UK the situation is slightly different. KFC has many hundreds of stores in the UK and has been operating there for more than 20 years; there is a long history they can draw on to determine whether they could tap a new demographic simply by converting some underperforming -- or advantageously located -- locations to certified Halal KFC "restaurants".

Vulpix
05-07-2009, 07:48 AM
Well, since this story is about KFC (are there any franchises at all in Sweden?)

Nope :thumb001:.


and in the UK the situation is slightly different. KFC has many hundreds of stores in the UK and has been operating there for more than 20 years; there is a long history they can draw on to determine whether they could tap a new demographic simply by converting some underperforming -- or advantageously located -- locations to certified Halal KFC "restaurants".

I think what Vargtand meant to say is that the argument of "catering to a broader range of customers" is not necessarily sound, as there are many people (myself included:p) who refuse to eat halal food.

Vargtand
05-07-2009, 07:54 AM
Nope :thumb001:.



I think what Vargtand meant to say is that the argument of "catering to a broader range of customers" is not necessarily sound, as there are many people (myself included:p) who refuse to eat halal food.

Bingo:cool:

Tabiti
05-07-2009, 07:56 AM
I won't eat that even if they made it kosher:D
Such food is not proper for decent people, so leave those "restaurants" for the immigrants...

anonymaus
05-07-2009, 07:58 AM
Nope :thumb001:.

Probably a positive thing ;)




I think what Vargtand meant to say is that the argument of "catering to a broader range of customers" is not necessarily sound, as there are many people (myself included:p) who refuse to eat halal food.

To your point, there are many variables to consider:

How many non-muslims (or strange muslims...?) refuse to eat halal foods?

Would those who refuse to eat halal boycott KFC for serving it?

If yes, would they make enough of a negative impact to outweigh potential gains from operating a few halal KFC restaurants?

If no, would they travel to a nearby non-halal KFC location to eat?


We can speculate on these things, but it's KFC's money being spent so you can be certain they've done their homework before writing the cheque.

There's also the possibility that their press releases have been trial balloons, attempting to gauge customer/public reaction without putting shovels in the ground.

Tabiti
05-07-2009, 08:02 AM
OK, what is the problem? Here we are full of muslims (in Sofia mostly workers) and nobody conforms restaurants and fast foods menus for them, so they even eat pork when don't have any choice or time to go to their restaurants/shops. Noone is going to make terrorist acts for that, for now...
You are spoiling muslims very much...

Vulpix
05-07-2009, 08:05 AM
Probably a positive thing ;)

Of course :p.


To your point, there are many variables to consider:

How many non-muslims (or strange muslims...?) refuse to eat halal foods?

Would those who refuse to eat halal boycott KFC for serving it?

If yes, would they make enough of a negative impact to outweigh potential gains from operating a few halal KFC restaurants?

If no, would they travel to a nearby non-halal KFC location to eat?
That'd be an interesting piece of research :p! It'll be interesting to see to what extent this move by KFC is successful.

The main point of this news, is that it smacks of "reverse colonization", brought along by the presence of racial and cultural aliens.

anonymaus
05-07-2009, 08:15 AM
That'd be an interesting piece of research :p! It'll be interesting to see to what extent this move by KFC is successful.

The main point of this news, is that it smacks of "reverse colonization", brought along by the presence of racial and cultural aliens.

I doubt if it will be very successful at all. These ventures are almost always too specialized and, as Artisch says, muslims will eat pork or non-halal food in many cases. Many Jews here (and in Israel) eat pork and seafood--chinese restaurants are quite far from kosher, yet they're always popular in jewish areas!

I personally think that if muslims wanted to eat this nasty kind of slop, they wouldn't likely be keeping halal in the first place. Falafel, Shawarma and Donair are a hundred times better than this steaming garbage they sell at KFC--muslims have their own fast food.

What this is, as I was saying previously, is an attempt to profit from what they think is a demographic opportunity. If there's reverse colonization going on here it would essentially be by accident, no?

Vulpix
05-07-2009, 08:26 AM
I doubt if it will be very successful at all. These ventures are almost always too specialized and, as Artisch says, muslims will eat pork or non-halal food in many cases. Many Jews here (and in Israel) eat pork and seafood--chinese restaurants are quite far from kosher, yet they're always popular in jewish areas!

I personally think that if muslims wanted to eat this nasty kind of slop, they wouldn't likely be keeping halal in the first place. Falafel, Shawarma and Donair are a hundred times better than this steaming garbage they sell at KFC :thumbs up


What this is, as I was saying previously, is an attempt to profit from what they think is a demographic opportunity. If there's reverse colonization going on here it would essentially be by accident, no?

Yes we could say they're attempting to exploit a demographic opportunity that was brought along by reverse colonization.

anonymaus
05-07-2009, 08:31 AM
Yes we could say they're attempting to exploit a demographic opportunity that was brought along by reverse colonization.

Fairly put. In fact, aren't we seeing some other culinary colonization in the popularity of donair and falafel shops?

They are popular in many places like UK and Canada.

Susi
05-09-2009, 03:54 AM
How many non-muslims (or strange muslims...?) refuse to eat halal foods?

Not very many, there's nothing really wrong with it in taste. The only thing that's different about halal is that there's no blood in the meat and it's been blessed by an imam. They can eat vegetables or anything else "normally".


If no, would they travel to a nearby non-halal KFC location to eat?

The disincentive of distance: no one will travel a farther distance for a similar commodity.


We can speculate on these things, but it's KFC's money being spent so you can be certain they've done their homework before writing the cheque.

Or we can more closely analyse the retail structure. KFC is a franchised organisation. It's doubtful that KFC itself owns the shops, it's the franchise owner, as in, someone who consumes halal meat. Likely this is in a Muslim neighbourhood.


I doubt if it will be very successful at all. These ventures are almost always too specialized and, as Artisch says, muslims will eat pork or non-halal food in many cases.

It depends on the Muslim, but most of them I've met at school are very devout and will travel farther (or home) to eat instead of being piggish and eating anything that's there.


Many Jews here (and in Israel) eat pork and seafood--chinese restaurants are quite far from kosher, yet they're always popular in jewish areas!

I think that Jewish people hold less to kosher than Muslims to halal. (Same thing really).


I personally think that if muslims wanted to eat this nasty kind of slop, they wouldn't likely be keeping halal in the first place. Falafel, Shawarma and Donair are a hundred times better than this steaming garbage they sell at KFC--muslims have their own fast food.

Muslims are like all people: they want a variety of food, even if it's bad for them. No one wants to eat falafel, shawarma and donair every day, same like no one wants to eat KFC everyday. It is still halal, as halal is mostly with meat and not really with the healthiness of something.


What this is, as I was saying previously, is an attempt to profit from what they think is a demographic opportunity. If there's reverse colonization going on here it would essentially be by accident, no?


Very true indeed.