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Treffie
05-10-2009, 07:52 AM
Unfortunately, one isn't able to build on it, but how about going underground? Will the funding that TA has received go this far? :D If not, are there any wealthy forum members, SuuT?;)

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You've bought the Ferrari and the private jet but now you can stay one step ahead of your fellow have-yachts - by purchasing an island.

Sully Island, just off the Vale of Glamorgan coast near Penarth, could be yours for around £1.25m - the price of a decent executive home.

Besides the kudos of owning a 14.5 acre (six hectares) island, you can impress your golf club chums by commissioning your own stamps.

But don't expect a 24-hour stream of party guests to visit because, unless they have a boat, they'll have to take their chances using a narrow causeway accessible only a few hours a day at low tide.

You may also wish to warn your friends that the stony causeway is unsympathetic to sky-high Jimmy Choo heels.

Karl-James Langford describes the archeological features of sully Island which include a bronze age barrow

Estate agents Chris John and Partners, which is selling the land, said it was impossible to gauge the type of buyer it could attract.

Edward Rankin, residential sales manager, said: "Islands for sale are few and far between, certainly in south Wales anyway.

"It's an unknown market place so it's a case of putting it on the market and gauging the interest from there.

"There may be people who have got money and they have always wanted Sully Island and now they've got the opportunity."

And while planning permission for a house on the uninhabited island is highly unlikely, Mr Rankin said some sort of commercial venture related to tourism would not be out of the question.

The current owner, who Mr Rankin said wished to remain anonymous, bought the island through the same estate agents 30 years ago.

She is selling an island with a rich history which includes a Bronze Age barrow and evidence of a Danish Iron Age fort on the eastern side.

It was also popular with local smugglers during the Middle Ages.

The estate agents pointed out the island was also something of a haven for plants that are not usually found in the area, such as the marine spleenwort.

Sales of islands are not unknown in the UK - celebrity spoon bender Uri Geller recently bought a lump of volcanic rock in the Firth of Forth in Scotland.

And Skokholm, which is three miles off the Pembrokeshire coast, was bought in 2006 by the Welsh Wildlife Trusts, which raised £650,000

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/8040009.stm

Psychonaut
05-10-2009, 08:17 AM
Wales? Never! ;)

I hereby nominate Seal Island (http://www.privateislandsonline.com/seal-island-ns.htm) in Nova Scotia, Canada. It a beautiful 900 acre island that we'd be free to build on top of, and it's available for a paltry $1.5 million CAD.

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/island_pics/sale/seal-island-ns-1.jpg

Tabiti
05-10-2009, 08:26 AM
How about a Moon parcel?
http://www.moonshop.com/

Treffie
05-10-2009, 01:05 PM
I hereby nominate Seal Island (http://www.privateislandsonline.com/seal-island-ns.htm) in Nova Scotia, Canada.

Yes, I think i could cope with that!

lei.talk
05-10-2009, 01:29 PM
heard of anatocism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_interest#Compound)?

the sooner the apricity incorporates
as a non-profit educational entity

and accepts small monthly donations
from every interested person

in to a growth fund,

the sooner some things can actually be accomplished.

most people make a million dollars,
they just can't save a million. - Kunwardip


compound-interest - i replied - start early.

The Lawspeaker
05-10-2009, 02:39 PM
I would prefer a nice tropical island :D Who of you folks has a nice, uninhabited candidate that is still a bargain ?

http://www.landscapedvd.com/desktops/images/paradisestrand1280x1024.jpg

lei.talk
05-10-2009, 03:48 PM
buying an island
does make more sense
than some other approaches (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GZAZ_enUS281US281&q=%22don+black%22+arrested+island).

Birka
05-10-2009, 03:53 PM
I would prefer a nice tropical island :D Who of you folks has a nice, uninhabited candidate that is still a bargain ?

http://www.landscapedvd.com/desktops/images/paradisestrand1280x1024.jpg

With all of the light skinned Northern Europeans on this forum, we would last about 20 minutes on that beach. Sun burn city.:redface_002:

The Lawspeaker
05-10-2009, 03:54 PM
Factor 2000 suncream should be able to safe our ... skin. :D

Rainraven
05-10-2009, 10:41 PM
I had this plan a long time ago, but to take over New Zealand as Apricity Island :D

Brynhild
05-10-2009, 10:50 PM
With all of the light skinned Northern Europeans on this forum, we would last about 20 minutes on that beach. Sun burn city.:redface_002:


I have plenty of this stuff. Who'd like me to put it on for them! :D
http://www.deal.org/content/images/stories/DEAL/Images/Local_Sites/coastofbays/Issue1/sunscreen.jpg

Beorn
05-10-2009, 10:51 PM
With all of the light skinned Northern Europeans on this forum, we would last about 20 minutes on that beach. Sun burn city.:redface_002:

Speak for yourself. I tan good. People often stop me in the streets and ask me how my father, Zeus is doing. :D

Albion
04-26-2011, 05:17 PM
Its disputed between UK, Iceland, Ireland and the Faroe Islands so technically belongs to neither (although the UK have established authority over it).

We could put a little cabin on it and it'd be real nice and cosy. :p :D I suppose we could perhaps cram in about 40 people tops. The rest will have to stay on a boat or swim.

Long live the Colony of Rockall for Apricty Persons (C.R.A.P)! :D

http://www.ladonia.net/new_herald/wp-content/RockAll_nimis01.jpg

http://regmedia.co.uk/2005/04/07/rockall-assault.jpg

http://macivercolumn.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/rafboatrock.jpg

http://www.motorboatsmonthly.co.uk/imageBank/r/Rockall-location.jpg

Wyn
04-26-2011, 05:39 PM
The Kingdom of England is definitely having that when the UK goes down the crapper.

Grumpy Cat
04-26-2011, 05:42 PM
Wales? Never! ;)

I hereby nominate Seal Island (http://www.privateislandsonline.com/seal-island-ns.htm) in Nova Scotia, Canada. It a beautiful 900 acre island that we'd be free to build on top of, and it's available for a paltry $1.5 million CAD.

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/island_pics/sale/seal-island-ns-1.jpg

Seal Island is in Acadian country, where the locals speak in same dialect I speak, so I would have to be the ultimate ruler.

poiuytrewq0987
04-26-2011, 05:45 PM
Do you guys accept Slavs on Apricity Island or is that considered miscegenation?

Albion
04-26-2011, 05:47 PM
The Kingdom of England is definitely having that when the UK goes down the crapper.

Why? Don't fancy a territorial dispute or a war against Iceland (lol hahahahaha - no army)?
Yeah sure, give it to England - we'd get a huge amount of EEZ waters with it, mineral rights and a nice little rock in the North Atlantic.

poiuytrewq0987
04-26-2011, 05:49 PM
Why? Don't fancy a territorial dispute or a war against Iceland (lol hahahahaha - no army)?
Yeah sure, give it to England - we'd get a huge amount of EEZ waters with it, mineral rights and a nice little rock in the North Atlantic.

We should raise an army and conquer Iceland then Apecity it up.

Albion
04-26-2011, 05:52 PM
Do you guys accept Slavs on Apricity Island or is that considered miscegenation?

Depends where it is. The North Atlantic is Viking and Celtic territory, so apart from the occasional Russian sub your banned from Rockall. ;)

Treffie
07-15-2011, 11:57 PM
Another one comes onto the market - £750,000.

Thorn Island, Pembrokeshire, Wales

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/15/article-2015191-0D07EBA600000578-524_634x487.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/15/article-2015191-0D05D9C000000578-47_634x396.jpg

Osweo
07-16-2011, 01:27 AM
Another one comes onto the market - £750,000.

Thorn Island, Pembrokeshire, Wales

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/15/article-2015191-0D07EBA600000578-524_634x487.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/15/article-2015191-0D05D9C000000578-47_634x396.jpg

THat's actually DAMNED REASONABLE a price! :eek: I'd buy it tomorrow, if a cud!

Albion
07-16-2011, 10:36 AM
THat's actually DAMNED REASONABLE a price! :eek: I'd buy it tomorrow, if a cud!

Indeed, but there's a cheaper one still in Wales.
Bargain hunt: Sully Island up for sale for £95,000 (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonline/cardiff-news/2011/07/11/sully-island-up-for-sale-for-95-000-91466-29029697/)

At such good value for money maybe if we all chipped in a few quid we could just buy Wales.

Max
07-16-2011, 07:50 PM
I nominate Fort Boyard :biggrin

http://frogsmoke.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/fort%20boyard.jpg

http://www.chine-informations.com/images/upload2/ford%20boyard.jpg

http://img.ozap.com/00887812-photo-fort-boyard.jpg

http://www.julie-raynaud.fr/293-Julie+Raynaud+-+Fort+Boyard+-+002.jpg?g2_serialNumber=1

http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200508/banz__1124747024_ingrid_chauvin_fort_boyard.jpg


http://presidentm16.free.fr/bmp2/Clip1641.jpg
http://cdn.wg.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/french-boobs.jpg

http://oldgregg.net/bob/halloween2009/themound.jpg

Treffie
11-25-2011, 10:44 PM
The Out Skerries in the Shetland Islands have come onto the market - £400,000 :thumb001:

http://mr3.homeflow.co.uk/files/photo/image/1994/5547/41048_EDN100122_IMG_00.jpg?1296604800

The Alchemist
11-25-2011, 10:50 PM
Or we could take part in the Big Brother all together :thumb001: But i think too people would give good beating :cry

Hurrem sultana
11-25-2011, 11:08 PM
i was thinking more something like this :D

http://devsnippets.com/img/islands/07.jpg

Unurautare
11-25-2011, 11:25 PM
Hmhmhmhm,Romania doesn't have that many islands but I'm sure with enough funding we can make a mini-Romania island.

http://www.advancedphotoshop.co.uk/users/8292/thm1024/rumaniaislandreducida.jpg

derange
11-25-2011, 11:34 PM
i was thinking more something like this :D

http://devsnippets.com/img/islands/07.jpg

That'll go under with global warming:(

Breedingvariety
11-25-2011, 11:48 PM
I would be interested in starting a new society.

Morrigan
11-26-2011, 12:07 AM
Let's take over Fire Island.

derange
11-26-2011, 12:08 AM
Wales? Never! ;)

I hereby nominate Seal Island (http://www.privateislandsonline.com/seal-island-ns.htm) in Nova Scotia, Canada. It a beautiful 900 acre island that we'd be free to build on top of, and it's available for a paltry $1.5 million CAD.

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/island_pics/sale/seal-island-ns-1.jpg

$1.5 million divided by 60 members is $25,000 each.

edit: 1500 members could do it with a thousand each.

Osweo
11-26-2011, 12:40 AM
I wonder how long we'd be permitted to live in peace there before Joe sent the USAF to force regime change by means of carpet bombardment? :chin:

Raskolnikov
11-26-2011, 12:47 AM
Right, Joe would report it immediately to his Zionist masters.

derange
11-26-2011, 12:48 AM
As long as we pay taxes we'd be under his regime. It'd be private property so we could mostly do as we like.

beaver
11-26-2011, 12:57 AM
I wonder how long we'd be permitted to live in peace there before Joe sent the USAF to force regime change by means of carpet bombardment?
:D what about appointing Joe the president beforehand?

Raskolnikov
11-26-2011, 01:01 AM
He would work to ally with the dominant political power (Washington) in exchange for adopting open borders policies and allowing free market advertisement of interracial pornography.

beaver
11-26-2011, 09:29 AM
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5740/73426931.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/73426931.jpg/)

Beer Bay - there will be a port to receive tankers with the best British/Scottish/Irish beer.

White House - the residence of Joe McCarthy

Russian cape - mmm... it's clear

Joe McCarthy
11-26-2011, 09:59 AM
So then, who has the conch? :p

derange
11-26-2011, 10:24 AM
So then, who has the conch? :p

Well we need to know what you are saying. Because a "conch " is not a english word. So you have to tell us why that is important.:)

Joe McCarthy
11-26-2011, 10:37 AM
Well we need to know what you are saying. Because a "conch " is not a english word. So you have to tell us why that is important.:)

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies

derange
11-26-2011, 10:56 AM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies

That's a horrible film and I refuse to read about it.

Sylvanus
11-26-2011, 12:07 PM
I would be okay with an Apricity district in a frequental metropolis like as NY.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3057/2396121541_74ce8cccf0_o.jpg

beaver
11-26-2011, 12:28 PM
I would be okay with an Apricity district in a frequental metropolis like as NY.
yes, something like TA but the island would be better :)

Joe McCarthy
11-26-2011, 12:42 PM
That's a horrible film and I refuse to read about it.

Nevertheless a very realistic sneak preview of what an island featuring this forum's membership would look like.

The Alchemist
11-26-2011, 02:26 PM
I would be okay with an Apricity district in a frequental metropolis like as NY.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3057/2396121541_74ce8cccf0_o.jpg
I bet it would become like a new Bronx :D :D

Comte Arnau
11-26-2011, 02:33 PM
What about one of those castles on sale, to begin with? The price would be more affordable. ;)


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/03/20/magazine/Key_Castles-slide-ZTO7/Key_Castles-slide-ZTO7-slide.jpg

Zankapfel
11-26-2011, 02:57 PM
Nevertheless a very realistic sneak preview of what an island featuring this forum's membership would look like.

I wholeheartedly agree with this.

And no, it isn't a horrible film, it's more of a very feasible dystopia.

Peyrol
11-26-2011, 03:33 PM
Only a little island?

naaaahhh...i prefer this

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/129/9/8/1305008871_terraformed_mars_by_koreanpacifist-d3g0a60.jpg

(Terraformed Mars) :laugh::laugh:

Comte Arnau
11-26-2011, 03:50 PM
Only a little island?

naaaahhh...i prefer this

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/129/9/8/1305008871_terraformed_mars_by_koreanpacifist-d3g0a60.jpg

(Terraformed Mars) :laugh::laugh:



And did you already hire your parcel? I did. :cool:

http://oi43.tinypic.com/13zn58j.jpg

Joe McCarthy
11-26-2011, 04:27 PM
If we're going to do this why not go all out:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerguelen_Islands

There's even a Swedish comic series with an episode set on Kerguelen where a Satanic Nazi conspiracy against the world's leaders has its seat. ;)

derange
11-26-2011, 09:54 PM
Nevertheless a very realistic sneak preview of what an island featuring this forum's membership would look like.

That's crazy. I think you are just being a nay sayer:)

Breedingvariety
11-26-2011, 09:55 PM
Not normal are survivors. Normal are the food.

New society could become influential fast. Having the right values.

derange
11-26-2011, 09:58 PM
If we pooled our money and bought an island we wouldn't all be living on it at once. We would be renting and working in the city so it wouldn't be Lord of the flies.

Breedingvariety
11-26-2011, 10:36 PM
New society could:
- increase reproduction;
- support and advance members vs. non members;
- give purpose;
- work towards common goal;
- influence masses consistently with the societies vision;
- at the very least it could preserve superior values before distant future expansion.

Phil75231
11-26-2011, 10:57 PM
Regardless, at minimum:

fertile soil (not easily eroded),
edible plants
a steady supply of fresh water,
wood for shelter
stone for cutting and pounding (better yet metal ores to make cutting tools with)

The Alchemist
11-26-2011, 11:01 PM
If you need virus to become immune, just ask me :D:D

Breedingvariety
11-26-2011, 11:07 PM
While it would be good for society to be self sufficient, I would propose its involvement in world politics at the same time.

Amish isn't ideal at all, IMO. It is too isolated and subject to external political circumstances. And too dogmatic, removed from open debate and open common conclusions establishment. It is too static.

Phil75231
11-26-2011, 11:13 PM
Also, we need access to the outside world for one simple reason -- disease immunity (antibody updates, so to speak). LOTS of native peoples got wiped out due to foreign diseases (Native Americans being the most noteworthy case, but many Polynesians as well - if you're gonna keep to the island analogy).

derange
11-26-2011, 11:14 PM
While it would be good for society to be self sufficient, I would propose its involvement in world politics at the same time.

Amish isn't ideal at all, IMO. It is too isolated and subject to external political circumstances. And too dogmatic, removed from open debate and open common conclusions establishment. It is too static.

You are thinking to far ahead.Baby steps

derange
11-26-2011, 11:15 PM
Also, we need access to the outside world for one simple reason -- disease immunity (antibody updates, so to speak). LOTS of native peoples got wiped out due to foreign diseases (Native Americans being the most noteworthy case, but many Polynesians as well - if you're gonna keep to the island analogy).

We won't even be living on the island. We'll be renting and working in the city

Breedingvariety
11-26-2011, 11:36 PM
You are thinking to far ahead.Baby steps
Strategically we need to think far ahead. Tactically we go by baby steps.

We won't even be living on the island. We'll be renting and working in the city
Island or not, it's the society that matters.

Land is booty. It is a symbol of victory.

Land is like a dessert. It's not the main course, and it means nothing without us to enjoy it.

Island could be like a base. Work in a city could be like reconnaissance.

Our bond would be the island, our mission would be the city.

Phil75231
11-27-2011, 02:22 AM
We won't even be living on the island. We'll be renting and working in the city

What if that island's name is Manhattan...or Long Island (part of which NYC extends into) ... just saying.

Albion
11-27-2011, 11:55 AM
Nevertheless a very realistic sneak preview of what an island featuring this forum's membership would look like.

Joe, please, you give us too much praise. :D


If we're going to do this why not go all out:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerguelen_Islands

A nice idea, the French already left some cattle there for us and we could get some hardy sheep from Britain and Iceland, Birch for aforestation and some geese for poultry. It'd be just like home. ;)


fertile soil (not easily eroded),
edible plants
a steady supply of fresh water,
wood for shelter
stone for cutting and pounding (better yet metal ores to make cutting tools with)

Hmmm... fertile soil... I don't know of many uninhabited islands which happen to be fertile, but many Northern European crops have been progressively bred to do well in poor soils to maximise agricultural land.

Edible plants would be brought from Europe and any tame flightless birds akin to a Dodo or Chicken could be used for poultry. We could also bring poultry from Europe.

Freshwater via streams, rivers and rainwater catchment.

Wood for shelter? Not necessarily needed as you can build self-supporting stone structures in rocky areas complete with stone roofs. But Birch or Southern Birch could be sued for this.

Stone would probably be found on some of the more cooler and barren islands but would mainly be calcite or of volcanic origin on warm islands such as those in the pacific. In some places the lack of it would be a problem although mud-bricks could be used instead.

Metal could be found in small quantities on many islands or in the surrounding seas.

Joe McCarthy
11-27-2011, 12:06 PM
Joe, please, you give us too much praise. :D

You sure about that? :) I'm not sure even the native English speakers would get along, much less our friends from the Balkans or elsewhere on the Continent. I'd personally only agree to come if I could travel by armored car.

beaver
11-27-2011, 12:21 PM
You sure about that? I'm not sure even the native English speakers would get along, much less our friends from the Balkans or elsewhere on the Continent. I'd personally only agree to come if I could travel by armored car.
I've specially disposed Russians max distantly from your future residence so that they couldnt disturb you while you are thinking about the global policy

Joe McCarthy
11-27-2011, 12:28 PM
I've specially disposed Russians max distantly from your future residence so that they couldnt disturb you while you are thinking about the global policy

Okay, now if you can move most of the rest of the Continentals and fascist Englishmen we might have a deal. :thumb001:

Albion
11-27-2011, 12:34 PM
I know this thread is only tongue in cheek, but I can't help myself. I'm a bit of an escapist I suppose.

Requirements:


Isolated location away from trouble, interference and pirates and a place where we can live quietly with little disturbance
A island controlled by a power which wouldn't really give a damn about such a settlement. We could probably rule out countries such as Britain and some other European countries who probably would kick up a fuss about it. Poorer countries generally wouldn't mind or at least wouldn't be able to exercise authority well enough to really do anything and would probably be more open to us actually buying or leasing an island.
Fertile or at least workable soils would generally be needed depending on whether we'd be largely leaning towards a herbivorous or carnivorous existence. Some places such as Iceland have survived on a diet rich in sea food and meat fed on grass (pastoralism). Hardy crops can also be grown in tough condition such as oats, hardy strains of wheat in dry areas and many vegetables and some alpine fruits such as blueberries for vitamin C.
Building materials would be mainly wood or stone which should occur naturally in most places. Failing that mud bricks could always be used or imported timber.
Fuel could either be via wood occuring naturally or from planted trees, peat in cool climates, methane captured from storage vats of animal waste (methane hot, heat rises and is collected in gas tanks). Other sources of fuel could be straw from dry grass (not a good idea though), or could be harnessed via wind turbines for electricty.
People - no weirdos or extremists since these would ruin the society and attract attention
Gender balance would need to be about equal or else the society would fail and there'd be a lot of lonely men. :D



I quite like the idea of sub-Arctic / Antarctic islands since they offer isolation, nature and the perfect landscape to raise a society of tough, hardy, self-reliant and moralistic people conditioned by adverse conditions.


You sure about that? I'm not sure even the native English speakers would get along, much less our friends from the Balkans or elsewhere on the Continent. I'd personally only agree to come if I could travel by armored car.

I think the peoples would soon settle as some became friends and the population generally became like Americans; mixed European.
Everyone would have to pull together to make it work too so that would break down the divisions slowly.

Auckland Island:

Pasture for the sheep and cattle and rich seas to fish:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Auckland2.jpg

Water and vegetation (which could be cut and dried for tinder)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Auckland3.jpg

Svalbard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard) is an interesting case too, technically part of Norway but with some exclusions. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Treaty#The_Treaty)
I think it's a bit too cold and barren though.

Joe McCarthy
11-27-2011, 12:46 PM
I used to be into this island stuff, Albion. Kerguelen has severe drawbacks in weather but it is extremely remote and isolated. It is owned by France though, and the Indian Ocean is pirate central. But it is the size of Corsica and is uninhabited. Matthew Parris, Thatcher's former aide, traveled there several years ago and wrote a journal. There are also a few travel books on the place. You might enjoy them.

I do think that the participants would have to be similar culturally, in outlook, and not bear strong historical-national grudges against each other for it to have any chance to succeed.

Beorn
11-27-2011, 12:51 PM
Great thing this island stuff. If only we had one. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Uk_topo_en.jpg/170px-Uk_topo_en.jpg)

beaver
11-27-2011, 12:56 PM
Okay, now if you can move most of the rest of the Continentals and fascist Englishmen we might have a deal.
yes we all fear USAF, they can begin to make a democracy at every moment and anywhere. So,you (in the our White House) is the best guarantee.

Albion
11-27-2011, 01:10 PM
Okay, now if you can move most of the rest of the Continentals and fascist Englishmen we might have a deal. :thumb001:

But then it'd just be America. That's boring.

A island in North America might be OK, Canada may as well be empty and Alaska is pretty much the same. Some islands in the lakes and rivers would probably be fine if we just kept quiet.

This place (http://www.photosfan.com/images/faroe-islands-tindhlmur1.jpg) in the Faroe Islands looks pretty nice too.


I think we should make something like Sealand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand), but better looking.
The basic design is of a British Maunsell Sea Fort (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunsell_Sea_Forts#Maunsell_sea_forts) but I'd make a few alterations.

The forts were essentially a platform above a barge with the barge scuppered and sunk as a foundation.
Instead of scuppering it we should pump in water and design it so that the water can be pumped out again and the structure re-floated and dragged by a tug boat if we ever needed to move it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Stages_In_The_Sinking_Of_A_Naval_Fort.svg/500px-Stages_In_The_Sinking_Of_A_Naval_Fort.svg.png

I wouldn't make it so high and unsightly either, instead of a look resembling an oil platform it would be lower and with artificial cliffs made from gabions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabions) filled with light stone with marram grass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammophila_arenaria) and coastal plants filling in the gaps.

The top of the structure would be landscaped to resemble an island with grasses, coastal shrubs and other plants.
Sea birds would probably colonise the cliffs whilst the human inhabitants would live inside the structure.

Some pictures (http://www.bobleroi.co.uk/ScrapBook/SealandRadioOne/SealandRadio_1.html) of the making of Sealand can be seen here.

beaver
11-27-2011, 01:18 PM
But then it'd just be America. That's boring.
Fuck the US, we will have our state (for about 5 minutes, no more)

Albion
11-27-2011, 01:32 PM
I used to be into this island stuff, Albion. Kerguelen has severe drawbacks in weather but it is extremely remote and isolated. It is owned by France though, and the Indian Ocean is pirate central.

Yes, it's not too much worse than some parts of Europe like Iceland though. France would be a problem, you can count on any Western country giving you a tough time settling, part of the reason is because they don't want to be responsible for such communities, another is because they're just against them.

Pirates wouldn't stray that far south though I don't think.


I do think that the participants would have to be similar culturally, in outlook, and not bear strong historical-national grudges against each other for it to have any chance to succeed.

There'd perhaps be a few disputes leading to different break-away villages but so long as we didn't invite too many Balkanians we shouldn't have much trouble. ;)
Even the English and Irish mixed together wherever the two people settled in the New World - Newfoundland, Canada, NZ, Australia - really quite ironic, even in England itself. The only place they don't seem able to do this is in Ireland. :rolleyes:
Historical grudges don't really count for much when supposed enemies are too busy fucking each other. :D


I think a ship would probably be a better idea, that'd give us real freedom.

Even Captain America couldn't interfere with us if he couldn't find us.
We could probably go to Russia and buy some retired cold war floating piece of crap, fix it up a bit and sail off to the vast 70% emptiness of the world.

You can already buy ex-soviet and Czechoslovakian tanks and armoured cars quite easily if you have a few grand.

One can dream I guess... :D

http://www.venik4.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/i-1241.jpg

But this would probably be better for cruising around the European seas...

http://www.castlesoftheseas.nl/mediapool/76/762040/resources/14446366.JPG

We'd make money to buy supplies by offering chartered ferry services to offshore islands and with the cartoon seal on the side we look perfectly innocent. Perfect.

Also the rule of law of the flag nation is at best nominal and it could always be flagged in a fairly libertarian-esque country if we so wished, or at least one not able to exercise authority well.

Yeah, I think we should all be sailors. We'd have the added bonus of being protected from rising sea levels too. ;)
Even if you buy an island you still don't control it unless it is in some shithole unable to exercise control such as PNG or the Pacific states.

beaver
11-27-2011, 01:58 PM
Even the English and Irish mixed together wherever the two people settled in the New World - Newfoundland, Canada, NZ, Australia - really quite ironic, even in England itself. The only place they don't seem able to do this is in Ireland.
I have been to NZ, both in Wellington (north) and Dunedine (south). What is interesting, they live absolutely like British but upside down - Englishmen are on the north island, Scottish - on the South one.

Albion
11-27-2011, 02:09 PM
I have been to NZ, both in Wellington (north) and Dunedine (south). What is interesting, they live absolutely like British but upside down - Englishmen are on the north island, Scottish - on the South one.

Yeah, I've noticed that too. Otago and the southern section of South Island is very Scottish, then the West coast of SI is fairly Irish with the East Coast (Canterbury) and North Island being largely English.
New Zealand is the exception though, in most places like Australia for example the Brits are fairly well mixed together - "Anglo-Celtics" they like to call themselves.

beaver
11-27-2011, 02:14 PM
southern section of South Island is very Scottish
very and very but without celts.

Waidewut
11-27-2011, 02:18 PM
http://y.delfi.lv/norm/18495/489913_3hGpGI.jpeg
The only island of Latvia :D. I doubt it is for sale, but who knows.

beaver
11-27-2011, 02:23 PM
The only island of Latvia . I doubt it is for sale, but who knows.
No way!

Waidewut
11-27-2011, 03:46 PM
No way!

Why not? Ok, it is a bit small, but there are several advantages:
1. Look at the cool lighthouse
2. You can go to the mainland by foot, in winter, because the sea is frozen at that time.
3. It must be way cheaper than some Southern sea islands.

Albion
11-27-2011, 03:59 PM
Why not? Ok, it is a bit small, but there are several advantages:
1. Look at the cool lighthouse
2. You can go to the mainland by foot, in winter, because the sea is frozen at that time.
3. It must be way cheaper than some Southern sea islands.

Yeah, and:


Its got some buildings we can turn into communal dwellings or apartments
It's close to Europe and in a stable country which would mostly leave us alone. It's location is good for visiting family back in other areas of Europe.
It's in the Gulf of Riga / Baltic Sea which doesn't have high waves but is abundant in fish, wildlife and is a nice area.
Handy location for visiting the Christmas fairs in Sweden and Denmark :)
It's got a lighthouse!


I personally love the idea. I heard of that island once before but I can't remember what it's called.

beaver
11-27-2011, 04:00 PM
Why not? Ok, it is a bit small, but there are several advantages:
1. Look at the cool lighthouse
2. You can go to the mainland by foot, in winter, because the sea is frozen at that time.
3. It must be way cheaper than some Southern sea islands.
No! And I think so based on the whole experience of humans and all advances of the modern civilization (and democracy)!

Waidewut
11-27-2011, 04:10 PM
Yeah, and:


Its got some buildings we can turn into communal dwellings or apartments
It's close to Europe and in a stable country which would mostly leave us alone. It's location is good for visiting family back in other areas of Europe.
It's in the Gulf of Riga / Baltic Sea which doesn't have high waves but is abundant in fish, wildlife and is a nice area.
Handy location for visiting the Christmas fairs in Sweden and Denmark :)
It's got a lighthouse!


I personally love the idea. I heard of that island once before but I can't remember what it's called.

Its called Kolkas bāka- the lighthouse of Kolka


No! And I think so based on the whole experience of humans and all advances of the modern civilization (and democracy)!
Whatever... :D

Sylvanus
11-27-2011, 04:45 PM
If you need virus to become immune, just ask me :D:D

HPV or more exotic?:D

Sylvanus
11-27-2011, 04:48 PM
A top secret pic from the Skadi Island :rolleyes:

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5669/nsbasemp0.jpg

The Alchemist
11-28-2011, 08:35 AM
A top secret pic from the Skadi Island :rolleyes:

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5669/nsbasemp0.jpg

Not that secret....i bet that's Auschwitz :D :D :eek:

beaver
11-28-2011, 09:05 AM
A top secret pic from the Skadi Island
they are too idealistic (on the Skadi), we are much more practical and pragmatic here :D All should be going well with TA island, we think through the all shit beforehand

Osweo
11-28-2011, 11:04 PM
Not that secret....i bet that's Auschwitz :D :D :eek:

The text says 'Neuschwabenland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Swabia)'. There are some amusing stories about Antarctic Nazi bases there, biding their time to reinvade the rest of the world. ;)


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The Alchemist
11-29-2011, 08:53 AM
Let's organize an Apricity-trip over there, then!!! ;D I like the cold :D

beaver
11-29-2011, 09:40 AM
Let's organize an Apricity-trip over there, then!!! ;D I like the cold
I disagree, finally i would have to carry all of you :D Maybe someone from Finns and Norwegians will help

The Alchemist
11-29-2011, 11:51 AM
I disagree, finally i would have to carry all of you :D Maybe someone from Finns and Norwegians will help

I hope you don't have an amazing idea about giving us mortal substances, and making us become dust :cry

beaver
11-29-2011, 12:16 PM
I hope you don't have an amazing idea about giving us mortal substances, and making us become dust
:D No way, I love you all but you are Westerners with high life standards/ standarts of comfort. Only notherners could help. And I, personally, vote for a normal South Island :) No adventuties more!