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Waidewut
02-26-2012, 06:52 AM
"Gaismeņa Ausa" (Light Did Break/Dawn), Performed By Latvian Folk Group "Laiksne". (In Latgalian dialect)
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Folksongs from the Latvian Song Festivals.
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The Ripper
03-08-2012, 11:21 AM
Can someone tell me a little bit about this song? I think its brilliant.

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Waidewut
03-08-2012, 11:52 AM
It's a song by the folk-group- Vilki, from their album- Dzelzim Dzimu
http://www.vilki.lv/Vilkudiski/DzelzimDzimu/skiramies-bralelini-6.html


Šķiramiesi, brāleliņi,

Cērtam cirvi ozolā;

Še palika tēvu zeme,

Še cirvītis ozolā.

Kas ņems manu tēvu zemi,

Lai ņem cirvi ozolā.

Sapūst mana tēvu zeme,

Sapūst cirvis ozolā.

Translation of lyrics-

Lets separate, brothers,
Lets chop the axe in the oak;
Here lays our Fatherland,
Here lays the axe in the oak
Who will take my Fatherland,
Let him take the axe in the oak.
My Fatherland is rotting,
So is the axe in the oak.

The song is based on Latvian folksong number 31997-2

Es, karâ aiziedams,
Cirvi cirtu ozolâ.
Sapūst cirvis ozolâ,
Sapūst mana tēva zeme.

lI
03-15-2012, 06:49 PM
Do you actually listen to folk, Waidewut? I do. But NOT to the kind of stuff that you've posted :p
I quite like the one posted by Ripper though.



However, I like instrumental stuff most of all, here's horn & pan flute music:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib8UQCUKleY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgRwmYZxI6A



This one is probably as authentic as you can get from my country:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Ql90DCWXg



Some others to show the variety:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI09277Pk3s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfypg2keB1I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEFy4LyKd3I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xtqICLZCbY

Waidewut
03-15-2012, 07:29 PM
Do you actually listen folk, Waidewut? I do. But not exactly the kind of stuff that you posted :p
I quite like the one posted by Ripper though.

I personally prefer instrumental stuff most of all, here's horn & pan flute music:

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I was waiting for some Lithuanian activities in this thread... :)
Btw, this song with the horn instrumental music sounds foreign to me, I don't believe Latvians use horns at all, in folk music.

Yes, I listen to folk music, but the ones I posted were the most holy folk songs I could think of, for the Latvian people. The ones most people kind of know by heart.

I like our folk-metal group "Skyforger" :D.

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Kryvich
02-10-2013, 11:00 PM
"Tykiai Tykiai Nemunelis Teka" by Kūlgrinda (a Lithuanian folk group)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qc8xDBuSh-s

lI
02-16-2013, 10:10 PM
Btw, this song with the horn instrumental music sounds foreign to me, I don't believe Latvians use horns at all, in folk music.
Latvians used to have horns too but they fell out of use because new string instruments were imported in 19th century (giga/vienstidzis, basetle, citra also not a string instrument cimbole)

References to folk instruments in folk songs
Folk researchers A. Klotins ir V. Muktupavels counted all the references to folk instruments from K. Baruono song collection ‘Latvju dainas‘'
1. Trumpet (šaknis taur-) – 25,1% out of all songs where any folk instrument is mentioned
2. Flute (stabul-) – 21,3%
3. Zither (kokl-) – 17,7%
4. Drum (bung-) – 17,2%
5. Bow (?) (spēl-) – 14,4%
6. Horn (rag-) – 8,4%

Page 116 (the text is in Lithuanian though...)
http://www.lt-lv-forum.org/files/786/Butkus_Latvi%C5%B3%20etnografija.pdf


Autochtonous Latvian wind instruments (they're practically the same as the Lithuanian ones, except that your pan flutes are different)
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3417/latvianwindinstruments.png

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Some interesting find:

MOST POPULAR LATVIAN FOLK INSTRUMENTS
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/1991_CPA_6373.jpg



MOST POPULAR LITHUANIAN FOLK INSTRUMENTS
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/1990_CPA_6250.jpg



Do you actually listen to folk, Waidewut? I do. But NOT exactly to the kind of stuff that you posted :p
I quite like the one posted by Ripper though.
I also like this Latvian stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDNX-rWMJZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajakUiX0knU

Nihtgenga
02-16-2013, 10:21 PM
I like this Lithuanian neofolk band Vilkduja. What does Vilkduja mean?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHuLRaBXSTI

lI
02-16-2013, 10:46 PM
No way! How come do you know about them??? I always thought that lyrics is their strong side, so, frankly, I'm a bit surprised a foreigner could be into their music.

I LOVE that band!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Vilkduja can mean "fog", "dusk, twilight" or "drizzle".


One of my favourite songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vthGbL2gz1k

Dacul
02-16-2013, 10:46 PM
Like it or not,but your folk songs are clearly closed to russian folk songs.
And not closed to scando folk songs.

lI
02-16-2013, 10:58 PM
Like it or not,but your folk songs are clearly closed to russian folk songs.
And not closed to scando folk songs.
I beg to differ. Lithuanian folk songs are not similar to Russian folk songs at all.
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How many similar instruments can you count apart from zither which is known in all Baltic region?

MOST POPULAR LITHUANIAN FOLK INSTRUMENTS
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/1990_CPA_6250.jpg



MOST POPULAR RUSSIAN FOLK INSTRUMENTS

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/1989_CPA_6113.jpg



Feel free to post any Russian song that would be even remotely similar to the two main types of traditional Lithuanian folk music - being very interested in folk I have never heard any myself:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_is8azo1lmw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI9fJrj7LOQ





Russian folk is like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ve5p-0Q4tY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsyllU4r1dA

Nihtgenga
02-16-2013, 11:01 PM
No way! How come you know about them??? I always thought that lyrics is their strong side, so, frankly, I'm a bit surprised a foreigner could be into their music.

I LOVE that band!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Vilkduja can mean "fog", "dusk, twilight" or "drizzle".


One of my favourite songs:



I have that album. Actually I have all of their albums I believe. Well 6 of them. Looking at my music I notice they released an album in 2001 and then the others after 2008 so maybe I am missing something.

Well with this sort of music it is not like each European/North American country is overflowing with bands so you have to look around. I don't understand what Vilkduja sing about but I like the music. :P

lI
02-16-2013, 11:54 PM
Anyway, I'll just take the chance to flood this topic with my favourite traditional folk songs :p

Aukštaitija (North East Lithuania)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oY6tplex94

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX8t4l3EWu8


Samogitia (North West Lithuania)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6_qnugr73A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcMKn9yXUzw


Dzūkija (South Lithuania)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI4IZBvS7ek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2tu6FljPhM

Dacul
02-17-2013, 07:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SRXN5Krf150
This style is quite nice.
Can you translate what she is singing there?

inactive_member
02-17-2013, 07:47 AM
This song was sung in southern Lithuania after summer grain harvest during sunset adoring the Sun.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKQP_rRzLpg

lI
02-17-2013, 02:20 PM
This style is quite nice.
Can you translate what she is singing there?I like it too :)
Nei vėjai pučia, nei sodai ūžia
Tik baltos žagarėlės kalnuos blizguoja
Verkia tėvelis senas būdamas
Tų vienų sūnelį vaiskan laisdamas
O kas man išars pilkų žemelį
O kas man pasėk gi kviečią grūdėlį
Žentulis išars pilkų žemelį
Žentulis pasės gi kviečią grūdelį
Nei Žentui artie nei žentui sėtie
Tik mana žentuliui karčemoj uliotie
Nei vėjai pučia, nei sodai ūžia
Tik baltos drobelės pievos baluoja
verkia motulė sena būdama
Tų vienų dukrelį svietan duodama
O kas man išverps plonas drobelas
O kas man išrašys margus raštelius
Martelė išverps plonas drobelas
Martelė išrašys margus raštelius
Nei marčiai verptie nei marčiai austie
Tik mano martelai lopšys lyliuotieNeither the winds are blowing, nor the gardens are bellowing
Only the white branches are glittering on the hills
Dear father is crying at an old age
While he is seeing out his only son into the war
Oh, who will plough the grey land for me?
Oh, who will sow the wheat grain for me?
Son-in-law will plough the grey land
Son-in-law sow the wheat grain
Neither the son-in-law ploughs, nor the son-in-law sows
My son-in-law only larks in the pub
Neither the winds are blowing, nor the gardens are bellowing
Only the white cloths are twinkling in the fields
Dear mother is crying at an old age
While she is seeing her only daughter out into the word
Oh, who will spin the fine linen for me?
Oh, who will weave the mottled patterns for me?
Daughter-in-law will spin the fine linen
Daughter-in-law will weave the mottled patterns
Neither the daughter-in-law ploughs, nor the son-in-law sows
My daughter-in-law only swings the craddle

Dacul
02-17-2013, 02:27 PM
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Oh,how beautifull!
These people have a very poetic soul!
It was that peaceful sang revolution,from what I saw:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singing_Revolution#Lithuania

member
02-17-2013, 02:59 PM
When Aiste sings Strazdas, I can hardly understand the words. It could be sung even in some unfamiliar language - that's how much I don't understand.

lI
02-17-2013, 03:02 PM
At some places towards the end it's difficult to understand for me too but not the whole song.

Here's a more authentic version of that song (only the first verse though):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSHM4d2HoK4

inactive_member
02-17-2013, 03:50 PM
Sun, Thunder, Daugava. A known song from Latvia.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6PzwN6diTk

inactive_member
02-17-2013, 04:20 PM
Feel free to post any Russian song that would be even remotely similar to the two main types of traditional Lithuanian folk music

Would Belarusian songs be suitable? I am tempted. :p

lI
02-17-2013, 04:38 PM
Would Belarusian songs be suitable? I am tempted. :p
Oh please do post them!

It would be most fascinating if Belarusians do indeed have some folk songs similar to the Baltic ones that the Russians lack entirely :p

inactive_member
02-17-2013, 04:54 PM
Oh please do post them!

It would be most fascinating if Belarusians do indeed have some folk songs similar to Baltic ones that the Russians lack entirely :p



This ancient Belarusian folk song is about Yurya, the god of Spring. Someone asks him; "Where did you get your feet wet? Where have you been, where are you going?" Yurya answers: "I have been running over the hills and in the valleys, giving wheat to people."





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGuUE2FePKY

inactive_member
02-17-2013, 05:10 PM
link Russia spans areas from Karelia in the north to the Caucasus in the south. In general, Russian folk songs are different to Lithuanian but we can find similar folk songs if we looked for them. Old songs in Tver’. Smolensk or Kaluga oblast’ may have something if you want to find similar tunes performed during pagan rituals by Balts.

lI
02-17-2013, 05:48 PM
This ancient Belarusian folk song is about Yurya, the god of Spring. Someone asks him; "Where did you get your feet wet? Where have you been, where are you going?" Yurya answers: "I have been running over the hills and in the valleys, giving wheat to people."
Awesome! Lithuanian songs about animal & greenery deity Joris/Jorė (I couldn't find the authentic versions on youtube, so I uploaded them to soundcloud):
Jorja, šalta rasa (https://soundcloud.com/linkus-1/jurja-alta-rasa)
"Jorja, the dew is cold, give greenery, raise the rye, so that there would be bread."

Jorja, geras vakaras (https://soundcloud.com/linkus-1/jurja-geras-vakaras)
"Jorja, the evening is good, take the keys, let the grass out, the silken grass, the honeyed dew, the grass will be for the horses, the dew for the calves"


Old songs in Tver’. Smolensk or Kaluga oblast’ may have something if you want to find similar tunes performed during pagan rituals by Balts.
Possibly. They would have to be very old and forgotten indeed since they're nowhere to be found on the net - which is a pity because I really would like to hear them.

inactive_member
02-17-2013, 06:13 PM
Possibly. They would have to be very old and forgotten indeed since they're nowhere to be found on the net - which is a pity because I really would like to hear them.

The musical instrument is specific to Tver' region.

http://cs403121.userapi.com/v403121949/4ddb/eWkK4P6IIiY.jpg


The community is active : www.tverzha.ru

inactive_member
02-17-2013, 06:16 PM
This is another 19th century Belarusian folk song.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC1-vexNo8E

lI
02-17-2013, 06:37 PM
This is another 19th century Belarusian folk song.
These aren't Provoslav crosses, are they?
http://youtu.be/oyGl2V6JZ8E?t=6m14s


The musical instrument is specific to Tver' region.
"specific to Tver' region" - do you mean to say that it's not found elsewhere in Russia? It does resemble some types of Lithuanian ožragis (horns that I mentioned in the first page of this thread are something different though - those are made of wood and are very massive):
http://ansamblis-lietuva.lt/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ozragiai.jpeg

I wonder what would it sound like? I couldn't find any videos for "тверскому рожку", maybe you would have more luck in Russophone sites?


Ožragis (a different type but the sound is similar):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzz78XFryZw

inactive_member
02-17-2013, 06:58 PM
These aren't Provoslav crosses, are they?
http://youtu.be/oyGl2V6JZ8E?t=6m14s

I put one video clip updating within a minute. It seems you watched the first video clip. :) The crosses are christian but there is an obvious pagan influence.


"specific to Tver' region" - do you mean to say that it's not found elsewhere in Russia? It does resemble some types of Lithuanian ožragis.

The website states that the name of musical instrument is "Tver' horn". The instrument may be found elsewhere in Russia. I don't know. I mentioned the instrument because Balts have a similar one.



I wonder what would it sound like? I couldn't find any videos for "тверскому рожку", maybe you would have more luck in Russophone sites?

I'd search for video clips.

inactive_member
02-17-2013, 07:08 PM
link

That's a master class showing how to play the musical instrument. The class is 2 hours long. Skip to 1.30



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwk7_xEueEM

lI
02-17-2013, 09:01 PM
Found some more! :D
http://youtu.be/hNy9IhBMwCc?t=2m39s


It's quite odd, but the sound of it doesn't resemble ožragis at all.
Instead it resembles a wooden instrument daudytė:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-PEeAweT4I

inactive_member
02-25-2013, 07:07 PM
This topic would be appropriate to post information on Lithuanian folk musical instruments.
There is a description for each instrument in Lithuanian, English and German. You can listen to the sounds of the instruments.


Site: http://www.folkinstruments.lt/eng/index.html


http://s13.postimage.org/ognv9iaw7/liaudies2.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

lI
03-02-2013, 12:29 PM
Lithuanian sutartinė "Dijūta Kalnali" peformed by a Belarusian band during the "Days of Live Archaeology" in Kernavė:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwSbmlVSqPs

Sounds very unusual when accompanied with bagpipes instead of multiple voices or horns but I quite like it.

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Here's an interesting comparison of Lithuanian & Croatian folk music, it's an excerpt from a folk festival in Croatia - in the first half of the video you can hear Croatian folk music and see their folk dances, at 7:29 Lithuanians start singing and dancing:
http://youtu.be/NG6FVhYEqzU?t=2m35s

The epitome of the stereotypes about temperamental Southerners and gloomy Balts lol
Croatian dances look really cool.

sevruk
03-02-2013, 01:29 PM
I beg to differ. Lithuanian folk songs are not similar to Russian folk songs at all.


Russian and Lithuanian folk songs don't "not similar at all".

lI
03-02-2013, 01:50 PM
Samogitian songs:
I recently came upon a remark that Samogitian folk songs are mostly in the major scale which makes them close to a style that spread throughout in Western Europe in 16th century.
http://samogitia.mch.mii.lt/TAUTOSAKA/melodstil.lt.htm

This would also mean that the style of Samogitian folk is more similar to that of Latvians than Dzukians. It's very interesting because, as far as the stereotypes about the differences in mentality go, the situation is reversed - Samogitians are known to be stern and Dzukians lighthearted & cheerful.

When I was reading Alvydas Butkus book "Latviai", I couldn't help thinking that he's never even heard any folk music from Dzukija or Aukstaitija - his comparisons of Lithuanian & Latvian folk music were so far fetched.



P.s. Atalyja is an utter an complete kitsch (certainly no less than Aistes "Strazdas" - I think, it's even more so) :p

member
03-02-2013, 03:44 PM
I recently came upon a remark that Samogitian folk songs are mostly in the major scale which makes them close to a style that spread throughout in Western Europe in 16th century.
http://samogitia.mch.mii.lt/TAUTOSAKA/melodstil.lt.htm

This would also mean that the style of Samogitian folk is more similar to that of Latvians than Dzukians. It's very interesting because, as far as the stereotypes about the differences in mentality go, the situation is reversed - Samogitians are known to be stern and Dzukians lighthearted & cheerful.

When I was reading Alvydas Butkus book "Latviai", I couldn't help thinking that he's never even heard any folk music from Dzukija or Aukstaitija - his comparisons of Lithuanian & Latvian folk music were so far fetched.



P.s. Atalyja is an utter an complete kitsch (certainly no less than Aistes "Strazdas" - I think, it's even more so) :p

This study touches differences as well stereotypes of Samogitian and Aukštaitian solk singing:
http://www.llti.lt/failai/10%20Vycinienes.pdf

Aukštas / žemas dainavimas
Ši priešprieša, kalbant apie aukštaičių ir žemaičių dainavimo tradicijas, etnomu
- zikologinėje literatūroje bene žinomiausia ir nusistovėjusi. Viena vertus, dainavimo
supriešinimas aukštas / žemas labai natūraliai suaugęs su Aukštaitijos ir Žemaitijos
regionų pavadinimų kilme aukštuma žemumaAntra vertus, ši priešprieša daž
nai iš tikrų jų dar gyvybinga ir šių laikų dainavimo tradicijoje. Antai Žemaitijoje
dainuojama iš esmės žemai, gana sodriais balsais, moterys paprastai dainas veda
tokiame pačiame registre kaip ir vyrai – mažosios oktavos ribose, tad klausantis
autentiško įrašo neretai net sunku pasakyti, kas dainuoja: vyras ar moteris. Aukš
taičių dainavimas – aukštas, švelnus, trapus, skaidrus, kartais atrodo, ypač kito
etnokultūrinio regiono atstovui, net kiek cypiamas (čia kalbama daugiau apie mote
rų dainavimą). Aukšto aukštaitiško dainavimo etaloninis pavyzdys galėtų būti Ku
piškio ir gretimų apylinkių tradicija. Daugelis aukštaičių dainininkių ekspedicijų
metu folkloristams yra sakiusios, kad „dabar jau jų balsai nebe tie“, esą „jaunystėje
jos dainavusios gražiai, laibai“, nors garso įrašuose girdėti gana aukštas dainavi
mas. Iš šių pasakymų matyti, kad Aukštaitijoje labai vertinamas aukštas ir skaidrus
balsas. Tiesa, kartais abiejų tradicijų dainininkai gali dainuoti beveik tame pačia
me aukštyje, tačiau klausytojui atrodo, kad žemaičiai dainuoja gerokai žemiau nei
aukštaičiai. Tokį apgaulingą įspūdį lemia skirtingi abiejose tradicijose dainininkų
tembrai, kitokia balso spalva: Žemaitijoje balsai sodresni, pilnesni, šauksmingesni,
Aukštaitijoje – šiek tiek „plokštesni“, švelnesni, trapesni; be abejo, reikėtų pabrėžti,
kad tai tik bendri bruožai, kiekvienas dainininkas pasižymi individualiomis bals
ypatybėmis. Vis dėlto aukštas dainavimas – šviesus balso tembras, kaip matysime,
būdingas toli gražu ne visiems aukštaičiams.

lI
03-04-2013, 01:56 AM
Maybe I didn't translate it correctly? By saying "Samogitian folk songs are mostly in the major scale" I did not mean the height of voices but intonation:
Žemaičių dainos esti beveik tik mažorinės homofoninės sandaros, kuri, nors ir artima XVI amžiuje Vakaruose paplitusiai harmoninei funkcinei daugiabalsei muzikai, neabejotinai turi ir savitų nacionalinių bruožų, artimų kitų, ypač šiaurinių, Lietuvos rajonų daugiabalsumui.

Svarbiausios žemaičių dainų savybės yra šios:

1) vyraujantis mažoras;
2) homofoninis daugiabalsumas; 3) ryškus viršutinio melodijos registro iškėlimas su itin stipriai pabrėžta dominantės atrama; 4) paprastesnė, negu Dzūkų krašte, ritminė sandara; 5) ypatingai savitas, laisvas melodijų dainavimo būdas, priskirtinas iš esmės nesudėtingiems ritmo - metro tipams.


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Latvian wind instruments (they're practically the same as the Lithuanian ones, except that your pan flutes are different)
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3417/latvianwindinstruments.png

I happened to come upon a video featuring Latvian wooden trumpet & horns today :D
The concert happened in Šv. Kotrynos church in Vilnius:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuFyGj5Eyog

lI
06-28-2013, 05:52 PM
Latvians singing Lithuanian folk songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TIorzCdo6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCqpqcTHM8c


Latgalians singing a Lithuanian folk song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJIV4_Cl5Os



Lithuanians singing Latvian folk songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SUe0pLjEoI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTlRHKBqbnk

lI
07-29-2013, 06:40 AM
Since I earlier scolded the style which spread to Samogitia in the 16th century from Western Europe in another topic, I thought I'd post some Samogitian songs which I do like here. These are from a different, autochtonous style, so they are of a single-voice type:

NORTHERN SAMOGITIA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gbt0OA5Ygo

Starts at 0:42

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8hou68GF60


SOUTHERN SAMOGITIA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSqO0qRIw3M



As for that homophonic Western style, sometimes it can be nice too - but only when it's not too sugary.
For example this one is alright:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvcOfNK5eFc&list=PLrLh0Vet5pcKX9EN5hXH4IYtQrOI-Mfgd

inactive_member
09-27-2013, 08:15 PM
Latgale



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hnRlw3P9CZY

inactive_member
09-27-2013, 09:21 PM
Latgale



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v7HPl597lBc

inactive_member
09-28-2013, 10:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y17awyiP6vM

lI
10-19-2013, 12:16 AM
I've been listening to the old Samogitian single-voice type of folk songs a lot lately and it's fascinating how much they resemble the Dzukian songs.
For example, if it wasn't for the lyrics, based on its melody I would have guessed this one as Dzukian:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Act8G6XS7MA

One of the typical Dzukian songs for comparison:
Ak tu saula sauliula (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI4IZBvS7ek)




Latgale

Biruta Ozoliņa - Bolta Eimu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7HPl597lBc)That's my favorite Biruta's album, I think I've even posted it in the thread about soothing songs at ABF.

Here's another Latgalian group that I like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpocJVkWJ54

inactive_member
10-19-2013, 12:43 AM
I've been listening to the old Samogitian single-voice type of folk songs a lot lately and it's fascinating how much they resemble Dzukian songs.
For example, if it wasn't for the lyrics, I would have guessed this one as Dzukian based on the melody

Thanks link! You always find intersting folk songs from Baltic countries. The song from Samogitia is beautiful. I like it. :)

Jonik
10-19-2013, 02:20 PM
I am very like these songs from Latgola even it's not a folkloric:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSCdwkTX3SU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_ufKyZarnI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScwxSLnk50s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi68Yw28aVU

Hercus Monte
10-19-2013, 05:33 PM
sauliika patekka (the sun is rising)

Saulīka patekka, Daulēlu lēlu,
Zurgi stan danguzzin, Daulēlu lēlu

Ebēis tū Saulīka, Daulēlu lēlu,
Zurgi stan danguzzin, Daulēlu

Senskāitais, Saulīka, Daulēlu lēlu,
Ang wissas ast lāuksnas, Daulēlu

As jāu dins senskāita, Daulēlu lēlu
Ainasses dabber ni ast, Daulēlu.

Kwēi lāukaisi lāuksna, Daulēlu lēlu,
Kwēi tekēi ukka ankstāi, Daulēlu

Kwēi tekēi ukka ankstāi, Daulēlu lēlu
Kwēi wīlai zemāi gūba, Daulēlu.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-_gxEE_C08&list=PLy3XDNt7SzYkFDCHi0D8_JmDV8iy2nrG6& index=42

Hercus Monte
10-19-2013, 05:44 PM
not sure if this counts as folk but this is a nice lullaby from Latvia


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuaFHHo3noo

and one that's popular in Lithuania (the Latvian one sounds much nicer, in my humble opinion)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X7CFfLl7nE

lI
10-20-2013, 05:13 PM
the Latvian one sounds much nicer, in my humble opinionIn that pair - I guess it does.

But as far as I'm concerned, nothing can top this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcMKn9yXUzw

But I may be biased since I remember it so vividly from my childhood.
And there was another one that I liked very much, I just can't find any normal video on youtube. Well, here's one with a pipe (or whatever instrument that is), that'll have to do:

http://youtu.be/ShouSsP8keo?t=10m46s

Hercus Monte
10-20-2013, 09:55 PM
Pasvarcyk antela

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkCNQ7456Ns

lI
10-20-2013, 10:09 PM
^^ That ain't the real folk.
There's no difference between: the imported Swiss choir singing & the Sovietski Bullshitski style.
So, I'll just quote what one Russky once wrote about the latter:

A note authenticity: To my mind, authenticity doesn't mean old; it refers to how people sing and dance in villages today as much as what we might imagine how they danced in the world of "back then." Authenticity is not a matter of content so much as it is of style. The authentic is the style of village-based players versuses what I call the Sovietski Bullshitski style—i.e., that style of adding a lot of arrangement and harmony to the music, and too much choreography, too much ballet and too much classical technique to the dancing. In sum, authenticity is a refusal of too much music-school refinement, and an affirmation of village-based rawness, with all of its (at times out-of-tune) virtuosity.

One can choose to sing and dance in the village style, or to imitate it with too much flowery rendition, as in the Sovietski Bullshitski style.

Tradition is a style. Authenticity is a matter of style. New content can always be added, but the style must not be forgotten and the authentic must not be confused for what is the product of music and ballet schools, and for what is still presented by so many big folk ensembles


It's like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf_jARB9Kek


vs this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deTIV1eCOCY



Kičas, chaltūra, masinis produktas :p :p :p

Hercus Monte
10-20-2013, 10:16 PM
^^ That ain't the real folk.

if it's old it's good enough for me:p



Kičas, chaltūra, masinis produktas :p :p :pna, Valstybinis dainų ir šokių ansamblis turbūt nėra pats baisiausias kičas Lietuvoje.

inactive_member
10-20-2013, 10:27 PM
There's no difference between: the imported Swiss choir singing & the Sovietski Bullshitski style.
So, I'll just quote what one Russky once wrote about the latter.

The author of the text is spot on. There was much bull-shit during soviet era during which neo-folk soviet-style or folk of particular style was promoted. With all due respect to professional dancers and choreographers spending many months and years perfecting their performances, they could record raw un-altered folk songs and dancing for future generations even if they didn't see them entertaining at the time.

inactive_member
11-03-2013, 04:08 AM
Singer Aija Rimicane from Livani (south-east Latvia) sings shepards morning song.Captured during National folk singers contest in Riga, Latvia, 2007



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHp6gSQPVVY

inactive_member
12-05-2013, 07:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K4unsmj7Sk