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Mortimer
03-21-2012, 09:08 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhnZkF3SRZ_JdEUwTE1MMUpjcGgtbEh2Y0trV3ZjZ 3c&hl=en#gid=0

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Interesting is that most Serbs and Croats and Bosnians are Northern European but i am Southern European?

hajduk
03-21-2012, 09:17 AM
Those results from 23and me are not very reliable. Indians score high euro. You can't pass as a Southern European, neither as Romanian.
I saw yesterday in the admixture thread Bulgarians have 35% leading Northern component. Do every 3nd bulgarian look Nordid? - No, just like every 3rd doesn't look Caucasian
Based on your look, you can't fit anywhere in Europe except as a gypsy
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5237/k12be.png

Trun
03-21-2012, 09:24 AM
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5237/k12be.png

This is the dumbest study ever, components are misplaced as hell.

Mortimer
03-21-2012, 09:32 AM
Those results from 23and me are not very reliable.

Indians score high euro. You can't pass as a Southern European, neither as Romanian.
I saw yesterday in the admixture thread Bulgarians have 35% leading Northern component. Do every 3nd bulgarian look Nordid? - No, just like every 3rd doesn't look Caucasian
Based on your look, you can't fit anywhere in Europe except as a gypsy
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5237/k12be.png

I didnt talked about my looks, im mixed with india thats why i cant pass. You probably dont understand anything about 23andMe.

Mortimer
03-21-2012, 09:34 AM
This is the dumbest study ever, components are misplaced as hell.

i dont know if its dumb or if we just dont understand it proper but according to this im more Northern Euro than Spaniards. Im about 24...%

Trun
03-21-2012, 09:43 AM
i dont know if its dumb or if we just dont understand it proper but according to this im more Northern Euro than Spaniards. Im about 24...%

Northern Euro/Atlanto-Med components are mixed, so are Atlanto-Med/Caucasian. Also, how Gedrosia can be 10% in Dutch people? I prefer the study where there are Baltic/Mediterranean/Caucasian/North Atlantic components. I found it relatively accurate.

Mortimer
03-21-2012, 09:48 AM
Northern Euro/Atlanto-Med components are mixed, so are Atlanto-Med/Caucasian. Also, how Gedrosia can be 10% in Dutch people? I prefer the study where there are Baltic/Mediterranean/Caucasian/North Atlantic components. I found it relatively accurate.

Yes Gedrosia in Dutch people seems strange. But back to the Global Similarity of Balkans from 23andMe. Yugoslavs are Northern European but im not, is it the gypsy heritage which "pulls me towards south"? Or maybe my Serb Heritage is not Slavic but Paleo-Balkan, this would be consistent with my E1b1ba2 Haplogroup which is old-balkanic?

morski
03-21-2012, 09:51 AM
Northern Euro/Atlanto-Med components are mixed, so are Atlanto-Med/Caucasian. Also, how Gedrosia can be 10% in Dutch people? I prefer the study where there are Baltic/Mediterranean/Caucasian/North Atlantic components. I found it relatively accurate.

It's probably some ancient component since the original (paleolithic) Europeans entered the sub-continent from the East and not from the Balkans.

brunette
03-21-2012, 10:39 AM
Those results from 23and me are not very reliable.

Most dna tests will just give you basics, but I don't believe any Indians will have high European origins sounds like nonsense

Trun
03-21-2012, 11:05 AM
Yes Gedrosia in Dutch people seems strange. But back to the Global Similarity of Balkans from 23andMe. Yugoslavs are Northern European but im not, is it the gypsy heritage which "pulls me towards south"? Or maybe my Serb Heritage is not Slavic but Paleo-Balkan, this would be consistent with my E1b1ba2 Haplogroup which is old-balkanic?

What does this mean? Yugoslavs are not Northern European, they cluster far from Swedes and Norwegians. They have high Baltic component but Baltic is hardly Northern European, it's Eastern European.

Mortimer
03-21-2012, 11:06 AM
What does this mean? Yugoslavs are not Northern European, they cluster far from Swedes and Norwegians. They have high Baltic component but Baltic is hardly Northern European, it's Eastern European.

Northeastern:)

bimo
03-21-2012, 12:04 PM
Yes Gedrosia in Dutch people seems strange. But back to the Global Similarity of Balkans from 23andMe. Yugoslavs are Northern European but im not, is it the gypsy heritage which "pulls me towards south"? Or maybe my Serb Heritage is not Slavic but Paleo-Balkan, this would be consistent with my E1b1ba2 Haplogroup which is old-balkanic?

you think to look south european ?

dralos
03-21-2012, 01:17 PM
you think to look south european ?
he thinks yugoslavs look like northrussians:D

Kanuni
03-21-2012, 01:25 PM
Northern Euro/Atlanto-Med components are mixed, so are Atlanto-Med/Caucasian. Also, how Gedrosia can be 10% in Dutch people? I prefer the study where there are Baltic/Mediterranean/Caucasian/North Atlantic components. I found it relatively accurate.

Where R1b is found higher the Gedrosian component is present even in low percentages the same goes for Irish they have Gedrosian component too.

Prince Carlo
03-21-2012, 02:15 PM
Those results from 23and me are not very reliable.

Most dna tests will just give you basics, but I don't believe any Indians will have high European origins sounds like nonsense

23andme's "European" is basically Caucasoid, and many Indians score high "European" in that regard.

rashka
03-23-2012, 12:34 AM
he thinks yugoslavs look like northrussians:D

He should know more than a Berber of how a Yugoslav looks.

Insuperable
03-23-2012, 12:46 AM
23andme's "European" is basically Caucasoid, and many Indians score high "European" in that regard.

Caucasoid is a wide term ( defined by metrics of the skull ) which includes even some ethiopians
Caucasian means European in the USA but in that term in the USA west asians are also included

dralos
03-24-2012, 04:31 PM
He should know more than a Berber of how a Yugoslav looks.
don't be nadding you know you like us berbers:D

Guapo
03-24-2012, 04:38 PM
Interesting is that most Serbs and Croats and Bosnians are Northern European but i am Southern European?

You are slavicized Illyrian.

Trun
03-24-2012, 04:43 PM
IM is genetically European, Serbs are genetically Northern European.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/068/894/cool-story-bro-house-Cool-Story-Bro.jpg

Mortimer
03-24-2012, 04:58 PM
You are slavicized Illyrian.

i think slavicized romanian (partially!)

Mortimer
03-24-2012, 05:01 PM
IM is genetically European, Serbs are genetically Northern European.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/068/894/cool-story-bro-house-Cool-Story-Bro.jpg

im not fully european and yes yugoslavs are genetically northern european.

Dr. van Winkle
03-24-2012, 07:00 PM
Those results from 23and me are not very reliable. Indians score high euro
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5237/k12be.png

These are my results from Dodecad, not 23andme, that I put into a table for the sake of comparison together with the figures of some populations.

I'm neither Indian nor Gypsy. Are you really that stupid to confuse random people with Indians or what? :mad:

Stop spreading lies about people's ancestry!

Dacul
03-25-2012, 09:36 PM
I do not understand anything from that document.
I see romanians are put also with 67.74 northern european and same southern european what means that?
But romanians also have there write 67.25 near east,66.94 cent asia,66.47 north africa,66.13 siberian,65.86 east asia.
Anyone can explain pls?

Mortimer
03-26-2012, 04:43 AM
I do not understand anything from that document.
I see romanians are put also with 67.74 northern european and same southern european what means that?
But romanians also have there write 67.25 near east,66.94 cent asia,66.47 north africa,66.13 siberian,65.86 east asia.
Anyone can explain pls?

thats similarity, the higher the closer you are to the population. the lower the less close you are to the population.