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Apina
04-09-2012, 07:11 PM
Mark Indelicato (3/4 Italian, 1/4 Puerto Rican)
http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/p/people_2008_rich_teens_080424/09_mark_indelicato.jpg
http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/mark-indelicato-picture.jpg
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/2009+Urban+Music+Awards+USA+v-IqFqz2IpAl.jpg
http://media.monstersandcritics.com/galleries/1453848/AGM-01126848085.jpg

Ana Ortiz (1/2 Irish-American, 1/2 Puerto Rican)
http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/5/f/5fgcpccbw8pvccwg.jpg
http://images.newcelebritypics.com/img/celebs/images/a/ana_ortiz-4185.jpg
http://sharetv.org/images/person/ana_ortiz.jpg
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/ana-ortiz-people-en-espanols-50-most-beautiful-celebration-at-splashlight-studios-red-carpet-may-16-2007-1oby9y.jpg

I believe that both have obvious African admixture (the first in the nose and the second in the jaw). Any other mixture you see?

Sikeliot
04-09-2012, 07:15 PM
First one has African influence on top of some sort of Med-Armenoid, he could pass as North African.

Second one looks more like a castiza with minor African.

Neither could fit in Europe at all.

Apina
04-09-2012, 07:31 PM
First one has African influence on top of some sort of Med-Armenoid, he could pass as North African.

Second one looks more like a castiza with minor African.

Neither could fit in Europe at all.
I agree

Arne
04-09-2012, 07:32 PM
Well, Ana Ortiz gave me a Portuguese Vibe.

Sikeliot
04-09-2012, 07:33 PM
Well, Ana Ortiz gave me a Portuguese Vibe.

I can see it, yes. But there's enough non-Euro in her that she looks more like an off-white Brazilian, than a Portuguese.

Apina
04-09-2012, 07:38 PM
Well, Ana Ortiz gave me a Portuguese Vibe.
I can see that also. She kind of reminds me of a girl Clementina posted in the jaw/mouth:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4716330643_b35020a8c1_m.jpg

Sikeliot
04-09-2012, 08:20 PM
She has a Portuguese look as I said, but with non-Euro elements.

Benacer
04-09-2012, 08:24 PM
I can see it, yes. But there's enough non-Euro in her that she looks more like an off-white Brazilian, than a Portuguese.

She looks very Brazilian indeed.

Apina
04-09-2012, 08:27 PM
Can anyone guess the percentages of each one (of Euro, Afro and Amerindian)?
My guess would be:
Indelicato: 85-90% euro, 5% Afro, 5% Native
Ortiz: 80% Euro, 10% Afro, 10% Native

Sikeliot
04-09-2012, 08:28 PM
First - Octoroon, which gives him the skin color. His exotic features come more from some sort of Arabo-Armenoid influence.

Second - 75% Euro and then 12.5% each of Amerindian and African.

Apina
04-09-2012, 08:31 PM
First - Octoroon, which gives him the skin color. His exotic features come more from some sort of Arabo-Armenoid influence.

Second - 75% Euro and then 12.5% each of Amerindian and African.
Octoroon for the first? If he's 75% Italian (I would guess unmixed as most Italian immigrants are quite recent) that would make his Puerto Rican ancestor 1/2 black right? I would not think that is common in Puerto Rico (though I could be incorrect). I guessed assuming that the 3/4 Italian and 1/2 Irish component of each was unmixed.

Sikeliot
04-09-2012, 08:33 PM
His Italian side is probably containing people with extreme West Asian phenotypes, people on the exotic end of the spectrum. Otherwise with his mix, he would not look so bizarre. Then, the Puerto Rican side has to be non-white.

Apina
04-11-2012, 10:50 PM
Any more classifications?