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Hurrem sultana
04-11-2012, 07:06 PM
Say you meet someone,you really fall in love and it works perfect but the person is from a different religious background.What would you choose in the end,love or religion?

Mortimer
04-11-2012, 07:06 PM
Say you meet someone,you really fall in love and it works perfect but the person is from a different religious background.What would you choose in the end,love or religion?

Love

lepa
04-11-2012, 07:07 PM
My bf is muslim, i don't have problem with that at all.

Flintlocke
04-11-2012, 07:08 PM
Easy. The essence of femininity is hero worship. I'd be the god idea no matter what she thinks she believes ;)

Europa
04-11-2012, 07:08 PM
Religion.Just the cultural differences will end this love soon or later.Not that relation between a man and a woman from the same religion are not having problems,but it will affect it.

Ánleifr
04-11-2012, 07:09 PM
Love, but unfortunalty unless you ran away together family will probably hold it apart. I knew a Muslim girl who couldn't date outside of her religion then one day she was forced to marry someone that she had never met in an arranged marriage and they married. I don't get it....

Mortimer
04-11-2012, 07:11 PM
you can practice your religion if you are married to a person with a different religious background, but probably its better if you share same values,opinions etc.

orangepulp
04-11-2012, 07:15 PM
Religion is first. I don't believe that spouse love is infinite, after sometime that love turns to respect. Anyway, it would be difficult to get a long with someone who doesn't share the same religious views as you, there will always be conflicts and clashes.

Mortimer
04-11-2012, 07:16 PM
Religion is first. I don't believe that spouse love is infinite, after sometime that love turns to respect. Anyway, it would be difficult to get a long with someone who doesn't share the same religious views as you, there will always be conflicts and clashes.

yes thats true, people annoy eatch other with different views and stuff, or clash together,but i think people can hold similar views and opinions even if they are from different religious backgrounds like an agnostic muslim and an agnostic christian who basically believe the same but were born in different religions, thats possible i think

Europa
04-11-2012, 07:17 PM
It is hard enough to understand the character,habbits and views of a person.If it happens him/her to belong to an other religion that's even worse..

dralos
04-11-2012, 07:18 PM
not for me,i only marry albo chicks and this is not trolling but i don't think i can fall in love with a nonalbanian

Comte Arnau
04-11-2012, 07:19 PM
It depends on whether she's intelligent enough to know that human love is much more important and divine in essence than human established dogmas.

2Cool
04-11-2012, 07:20 PM
you can practice your religion if you are married to a person with a different religious background, but probably its better if you share same values,opinions etc.

That doesn't make sense to me. Why would you marry someone if you believe they are going to hell for following the wrong religion? Weird.

Lumi
04-11-2012, 07:21 PM
I dated a Christian once, and I'm Pagan. He never once preached, never once shoved his religion down my throat, never tried to convert me. He respected my religion as long as I respected his, which I did.
I believe that it depends on the people.

Mosov
04-11-2012, 07:23 PM
My bf is muslim, i don't have problem with that at all.

If he's religious, he'll make you convert.

Arne
04-11-2012, 07:24 PM
Say you meet someone,you really fall in love and it works perfect but the person is from a different religious background.What would you choose in the end,love or religion?

Religion cause Kikes shouldn´t mingle with Christians.

dralos
04-11-2012, 07:25 PM
If he's religious, he'll make you convert.
only ara,turkish muslim do this,not european ones,i'm speaking of albanian muslims who are married with chrisitians,the kids usually just follow albanian tradition,the religion isn't a barrier atall

Sultan Suleiman
04-11-2012, 07:26 PM
It all depends on the individual, some people can look pass different religion some can't look pass the different denomination of the same religion...

Talvi
04-11-2012, 07:27 PM
Id ask them pretty early about religion and if he was religious I would not consider him as a potential any longer.

lepa
04-11-2012, 07:28 PM
If he's religious, he'll make you convert.

He want to convert to christianity, but he is afraid from his parents.

Hurrem sultana
04-11-2012, 07:29 PM
lepa,is he arab?

dralos
04-11-2012, 07:30 PM
He want to convert to christianity, but he is afraid from his parents.
lepa is he a turk from bulgaria?

Europa
04-11-2012, 07:30 PM
He want to convert to christianity, but he is afraid from his parents.

There you go.You first issue in your future life,if you stay together?:coffee:

lepa
04-11-2012, 07:31 PM
He is arab.

Hurrem sultana
04-11-2012, 07:31 PM
My parents would prefer if i dated only Bosniaks


rather an atheist Bosniak than a swedish muslim convert,or arab/turk :D

so they are just,,nationalistic?!

Feral
04-11-2012, 07:32 PM
It depends on whether she's intelligent enough to know that human love is much more important and divine in essence than human established dogmas.

:clap:

That's true love.

If you get along with another person because of his/her religion, then you will end and/or start a relationship because of it.
If you already get along with another person, but now you're questioning your belief and what it's more important, then the anwser is obvious: You get along no matter what, and that's more important. :thumbs up

Mortimer
04-11-2012, 07:33 PM
My parents would prefer if i dated only Bosniaks


rather an atheist Bosniak than a swedish muslim convert,or arab/turk :D

so they are just,,nationalistic?!

they are probably just concerned.... i dont know anymore what is right, but we all can fall to sin, even if white/black mixing were a sin we could still fall into the trap

dralos
04-11-2012, 07:33 PM
There you go.You first issue in your future life,if you stay together?:coffee:
that shouldn't be a problem,i've dated one time a malsor chick who is catholic and we didn't have any problem atall,nobody had to convert or anything,but i think if you take religion too serious it goes wrong,you have to take it easy and chill

dralos
04-11-2012, 07:34 PM
My parents would prefer if i dated only Bosniaks


rather an atheist Bosniak than a swedish muslim convert,or arab/turk :D

so they are just,,nationalistic?!
i like your parents:D

lepa
04-11-2012, 07:35 PM
My parents are not against that im with muslim boy, if i truly want it, they will support me.

Virtuous
04-11-2012, 07:38 PM
Love obviously, screw religion.

dralos
04-11-2012, 07:38 PM
He is arab.
is he rich arab from dubai:D

Europa
04-11-2012, 07:40 PM
that shouldn't be a problem,i've dated one time a malsor chick who is catholic and we didn't have any problem atall,nobody had to convert or anything,but i think if you take religion too serious it goes wrong,you have to take it easy and chill

Look mate.I know that you think your parents's opinion does not matter for you when it comes to a girlfriend/wife,but I'll tell you something.If you get into a permanent argument with your parents,respectivly stop talking to them,because of that relationship you'll get in dip shit.Remember,you can always find another woman,but you'll never have other parents....

I am not saying that you have to always listen and do everything your parents say,like a mamy's boy/girl..

lepa
04-11-2012, 07:41 PM
is he rich arab from dubai:D

What a stupid question! Of course he is, after all he is with me...joke. He is from Syria.

Hurrem sultana
04-11-2012, 07:42 PM
Look mate.I know that you think your parents's opinion does not matter for you when it comes to a girlfriend/wife,but I'll tell you something.If you get into a permanent argument with your parents,respectivly stop talking to them,because of that relationship you'll get in dip shit.Remember,you can always find another woman,but you'll never have other parents....

I am not saying that you have to always listen and do everything your parents say,like a mamy's boy/girl..

To me it sounds like you have never experienced love

and what if you listen to your parents,leave the love of your life,,,marry some girl just because you have same religion and 10 years later you are stil not happy?

dralos
04-11-2012, 07:42 PM
Look mate.I know that you think your parents's opinion does not matter for you when it comes to a girlfriend/wife,but I'll tell you something.If you get into a permanent argument with your parents,respectivly stop talking to them,because of that relationship you'll get in dip shit.Remember,you can always find another woman,but you'll never have other parents....

I am not saying that you have to always listen and do everything your parents say,like a mamy's boy/girl..
mine parents are oke so long my wife is albanian and i'm oke with that too
but i agree with you,fighting with your parents isn't worth of it,if it's truly meant your parents are gonna like your gf/bf in my opinion

dralos
04-11-2012, 07:44 PM
To me it sounds like you have never experienced love

and what if you listen to your parents,leave the love of your life,,,marry some girl just because you have same religion and 10 years later you are stil not happy?
religion isn't important ehtnicity is important:thumb001:
we have to be more open towards religion it shouldn't this serious,it's something personal,i'm raised very traditional albanian not muslim,christian or jewish:D
so my values are albanian values not religious wich is the best in my opinion to have values based on your countries tradition not religion

dralos
04-11-2012, 07:46 PM
To me it sounds like you have never experienced love

and what if you listen to your parents,leave the love of your life,,,marry some girl just because you have same religion and 10 years later you are stil not happy?
the dude respects his parents what's wrong with that,i find it very good of him to count also the opinion of his parents in my book that's very good

Sultan Suleiman
04-11-2012, 07:46 PM
Bosnian what is the purpose of this silly question of yours when I already bought you (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=814269&postcount=84).

Mortimer
04-11-2012, 07:50 PM
i think mixing religions is not really a sin, but if you have too different views on things its not that good because you clash, maybe both should agree on some basics, if you can work out some basiics on which you agree why not? i think white/black mixing even if its same religion would be the bigger issue

dralos
04-11-2012, 07:51 PM
Bosnian what is the purpose of this silly question of yours when I already bought you (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=814269&postcount=84).
did you buy her with cookies:D

Europa
04-11-2012, 07:52 PM
To me it sounds like you have never experienced love

and what if you listen to your parents,leave the love of your life,,,marry some girl just because you have same religion and 10 years later you are stil not happy?


You misunderstand.When you get married and problems/disagreements with your/his parents begin,you will understand...:coffee:

Geronimo
04-11-2012, 07:56 PM
I see my blabber in the chatbox gave you the idea for this thread. To answer you question, yes I'd give up christianity for you Bosnian :wink but only on the condition that you give up Islam.

Hurrem sultana
04-11-2012, 07:56 PM
Bosnian what is the purpose of this silly question of yours when I already bought you (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=814269&postcount=84).

man,,i thought you would not watch this:coffee::D

lepa
04-11-2012, 07:57 PM
You misunderstand.When you get married and problems/disagreements with your/his parents begin,you will understand...:coffee:

Have you passed through it, to know what is it?

Hurrem sultana
04-11-2012, 07:57 PM
I see my blabber in the chatbox gave you the idea for this thread. To answer you question, yes I'd give up christianity for you Bosnian :wink but only on the condition that you give up Islam.

Do not talk like that in front of my fiancee :D:D


A thing that happened to one of my friends made me open the thread:coffee:

Europa
04-11-2012, 07:58 PM
For those who are not married and don't have any children the cutural differences will be the least problems you'd like to deal with.When you are 20 years old life is 'pink' or as we say 'Dady brings,mamy makes'....

dralos
04-11-2012, 07:59 PM
For those who are not married and don't have any children the cutural differences will be the least problems you'd like to deal with.When you are 20 years old life is 'pink' or as we say 'Dady brings,mamy makes'....
i like that:D

Europa
04-11-2012, 07:59 PM
Have you passed through it, to know what is it?

What do you think?Have I?

Hurrem sultana
04-11-2012, 08:00 PM
For those who are not married and don't have any children the cutural differences will be the least problems you'd like to deal with.When you are 20 years old life is 'pink' or as we say 'Dady brings,mamy makes'....

I know many relationship/marriages that have worked even though the religions were different

Mosov
04-11-2012, 08:01 PM
He want to convert to christianity, but he is afraid from his parents.

Bulgarian Muslim? or Turk?

dralos
04-11-2012, 08:02 PM
you people are now disagreeing with europa bcs your brainwashed by media today
now it's wrong to stick to your own,but that's bullsh*t
it's bad to mix only own people not others viva racialism;)

Hurrem sultana
04-11-2012, 08:03 PM
you people are now disagreeing with europa bcs your brainwashed by media today
now it's wrong to stick to your own,but that's bullsh*t
it's bad to mix only http://www.theapricity.com/forum/index.phpown people not others viva racialism;)

People have always mixed,if not,,we would all be retards by now ;)

Sultan Suleiman
04-11-2012, 08:04 PM
did you buy her with cookies:D


No, don't be silly...

It was love on the first sight, she rode on a magnificent gilded camel and had the most majestic (and revealing) burqa I have ever laid my eyes on from the all the potential wives I was offered till that point. Then I just knew that I had to have her. And I didn't spare any goats or tents in my pursuit to get her hand.

P.S.: The cookies came as a free extra.

dralos
04-11-2012, 08:05 PM
People have always mixed,if not,,we would all be retards by now ;)
not where i'm from and so far i know i'm not a retard:D

Sultan Suleiman
04-11-2012, 08:06 PM
I see my blabber in the chatbox gave you the idea for this thread. To answer you question, yes I'd give up christianity for you Bosnian :wink but only on the condition that you give up Islam.


I will cut off your balls and feed them to my ducks infidel...

dralos
04-11-2012, 08:09 PM
No, don't be silly...

It was love on the first sight, she rode on a magnificent gilded camel and had the most majestic (and revealing) burqa I have ever laid my eyes on from the all the potential wives I was offered till that point. Then I just knew that I had to have her. And I didn't spare any goats or tents in my pursuit to get her hand.

P.S.: The cookies came as a free extra.
danm you're one lucky guy,hope you can keep her,she is kinda swedized:D
mine princess is still somewhere in albanian lands wandering around thinking about me but not knowing me,walks on the beach under the moonlight feels my present but doesn't see me,it hurts her everyday,tries to forget about me but cannot her heart doesn't allow it,but one day she'll be near me and will surrender at me and make our love one

Rastko
04-11-2012, 08:09 PM
Background.

lepa
04-11-2012, 08:14 PM
not where i'm from and so far i know i'm not a retard:D

u said you have bulgarian blood from your father's side. :coffee: :D

dralos
04-11-2012, 08:17 PM
u said you have bulgarian blood from your father's side. :coffee: :D
i was wrong,i asked my father again now it happens to be albanian blood from sofia:D

Transhumanist
04-11-2012, 08:18 PM
He is arab.

Where in Syria is he from? And, is he "Muslim Muslim?" I know that may sound like a ridiculous question, but, some Syrian religious minorities (e.g. Alawites) practice dissimulation. Of course, in the West, there is not much need for it, but, one never knows.

Geronimo
04-11-2012, 08:18 PM
I will cut off your balls and feed them to my ducks infidel...

http://www.unexplainedmonsters.com/vampires/images/Vlad_the_Impaler.jpg

Prepare your anus saracen :laugh:

Europa
04-11-2012, 08:18 PM
i was wrong,i asked my father again now it happens to be albanian blood from sofia:D

A psycho as usual..:D

lepa
04-11-2012, 08:21 PM
i was wrong,i asked my father again now it happens to be albanian blood from sofia:D

Come on, there is nothing wrong with little bulgarian blood. :D

lepa
04-11-2012, 08:22 PM
Where in Syria is he from? And, is he "Muslim Muslim?" I know that may sound like a ridiculous question, but, some Syrian religious minorities (e.g. Alawites) practice dissimulation. Of course, in the West, there is not much need for it, but, one never knows.

He is not from these minorities, im sure.

dralos
04-11-2012, 08:25 PM
Come on, there is nothing wrong with little bulgarian blood. :D
offcourse not,but it just isn't in me:D
mayby some lost celts long ago:D

Europa
04-11-2012, 08:25 PM
He is not from these minorities, im sure.

Whatever you do,don't ever go to Syria.

dralos
04-11-2012, 08:26 PM
Whatever you do don't ever go to Syria.
smartest thing on this thread aside from my posts:D

Europa
04-11-2012, 08:28 PM
i was wrong,i asked my father again now it happens to be albanian blood from sofia:D

So,that's the reason why Leo doesn't like your clan?

Edt:My English is awful today:D

Sultan Suleiman
04-11-2012, 08:30 PM
danm you're one lucky guy,hope you can keep her,she is kinda swedized:D

Few months in poppy fields and in burqa will wash out any "Westernization" and "modernization" out of her :)



mine princess is still somewhere in albanian lands wandering around thinking about me but not knowing me,walks on the beach under the moonlight feels my present but doesn't see me,it hurts her everyday,tries to forget about me but cannot her heart doesn't allow it,but one day she'll be near me and will surrender at me and make our love one


My Albo friend that sounded incredibly gay...

But nonetheless I wish you luck.

dralos
04-11-2012, 08:31 PM
So,that's the reason why Leo doesn't like your clan?

Edt:My English is awful today:D
the reason is bcs my clan is knwon to reproduce the hottest albo chicks but leo is mad bcs those chicks only digg other clanmembers:D

Sultan Suleiman
04-11-2012, 08:32 PM
http://www.unexplainedmonsters.com/vampires/images/Vlad_the_Impaler.jpg

Prepare your anus saracen :laugh:


Over PM please... (the ladies are listening) ;)

lepa
04-11-2012, 08:33 PM
You all are talking to me, like im going to marry him. :D

dralos
04-11-2012, 08:36 PM
You all are talking to me, like im going to marry him. :D
offcourse you aren't going to marry him,arabs only marry beside nonarabs,real nordid blondes not types like you
sorry to crush your world:D

Heart of Oak
04-11-2012, 08:36 PM
I am working class, my partner is, shall we say the higher end of the crust.
We struggle all the time, with class difference, it's hard...

Hess
04-11-2012, 08:36 PM
It depends. if one is a European Christian that doesn't really take his faith seriously and the other is a European Atheist, religion should never be a problem.

Theoretically, those two people would have almost identical cultural practices

dralos
04-11-2012, 08:39 PM
It depends. if one is a European Christian that doesn't really take his faith seriously and the other is a European Atheist, religion should never be a problem.

Theoretically, those two people would have almost identical cultural practices
you should marry a bosnian muslim chick:D

Hess
04-11-2012, 08:42 PM
you should marry a bosnian muslim chick:D

I'd rather cut of all my fingers with a needle :rolleyes2:

(unless she converts, of course)

dralos
04-11-2012, 08:43 PM
I'd rather cut of all my fingers with a needle :rolleyes2:

(unless she converts, of course)
dude i wouldn't go so far:D
i need my fingers:D
religion isn't that important ethnicity is much more important,if you think like this,you should marry some catholic girl from congo
i know one who would love a swarthy guy like you:laugh:

Rastko
04-11-2012, 08:45 PM
I'd rather cut of all my fingers with a needle :rolleyes2:

(unless she converts, of course)

Even the convert wouldn't be enough for me.

dralos
04-11-2012, 08:47 PM
Even the convert wouldn't be enough for me.
regent are you serious,you guys are practically the same
not like me and a muslim bosnian chick who would be like day and night:D

Hess
04-11-2012, 08:49 PM
Even the convert wouldn't be enough for me.

not even if she truly abandons and rejects Islam in all its forms?

I'd marry her- Christianity is all about repentance, after all :p

Rastko
04-11-2012, 08:51 PM
regent are you serious,you guys are practically the same
not like me and a muslim bosnian chick who would be like day and night:D

She will still be Muslim by family,tradition and cultural circle.

Trollish note of your post I won't comment.

dralos
04-11-2012, 08:52 PM
She will still be Muslim by family,tradition and cultural circle.

Trollish note of your post I won't comment.
wich is trollish note,it's true me and a muslim would be much more different then you and a muslim girl

rhiannon
04-11-2012, 08:56 PM
Religion isn't important to me at all, so any potential partner of mine would have been free to follow whichever religion they chose. But, I can't imagine there being a lot in common between an atheist/agnostic and say...a Muslim or Fundamentalist Christian;)

Dilberth
04-11-2012, 08:58 PM
wich is trollish note,it's true me and a muslim would be much more different then you and a muslim girl

In what way exactly?

dralos
04-11-2012, 09:01 PM
In what way exactly?
looks,manners,language,nonalbanian name
i'm raised by albanian values not religious

lepa
04-11-2012, 09:06 PM
^We are all balkan, we all have something in common. :D

Hurrem sultana
04-11-2012, 09:07 PM
my best friend(croat from duborvnik) is together with a bosniak from sarajevo and they will get married,and no problems at all

he is even in a way religious(goes to mosque sometimes)

Rastko
04-11-2012, 09:09 PM
Where I come from religion is sign of national identity and cultural circle,as you can see I'm not a religious fanatic myself,still I declare as a Catholic because that is part of my heritage.

I would fuck everything except black gurl,tough.

StonyArabia
04-11-2012, 09:11 PM
Love all the way it has the power to break any barrier, cultural or "racial" and even religious it's that powerful.

Dilberth
04-11-2012, 09:11 PM
I am Mitteleurope,not Balkan.

Rastko
04-11-2012, 09:13 PM
my best friend(croat from duborvnik) is together with a bosniak from sarajevo and they will get married,and no problems at all

he is even in a way religious(goes to mosque sometimes)

That's retarded.

I'm really curious about that girl.If you send me a pic and a name I will probably know her family tree in 5 minutes.

Aidan
04-11-2012, 09:13 PM
Religion, of course.

Rastko
04-11-2012, 09:14 PM
I am Mitteleurope,not Balkan.

Both of those terms are retarded and made for retarded people.

You are Croat,nothing else.

Hurrem sultana
04-11-2012, 09:14 PM
That's retarded.

I'm really curious about that girl.If you send me a pic and a name I will probably know her family tree in 5 minutes.

I will not do that,but it is that tall dark haired sexy girl i have posted pics of few weeks ago:)

If they don't have any problem with it who are you to say it is "retarded"

Belenus
04-11-2012, 09:17 PM
When it comes to religion, I only really have a problem with Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. The Abrahamic faiths are judgemental Semitic bullshit. Indo-European and indigenous European spirituality, on the other hand, is creative, not restrictive.

I don't think I could have a serious relationship with a devout girl from an Abrahamic religion. Paganism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism - these are traditions I can relate with on some level, since they're all fundamentally Indo-European in origin and principle.

My wife was an atheist when I met her, but she's an agnostic now. Hopefully the next step will be Germanic paganism.

Rastko
04-11-2012, 09:18 PM
I will not do that,but it is that tall dark haired sexy girl i have posted pics of few weeks ago:)

If they don't have any problem with it who are you to say it is "retarded"

Didn't catch the pic.

Future president of Croatia.

Hurrem sultana
04-11-2012, 09:23 PM
Didn't catch the pic.

Future president of Croatia.

We don't care what the president thinks :coffee:

Viljuska
04-11-2012, 09:42 PM
and what if you listen to your parents,leave the love of your life,,,marry some girl just because you have same religion and 10 years later you are stil not happy?
Love is inconstant and susceptible to change, your family is forever.
The "love" we feel when we are young is just a state of mind.
With this love there is even less guarantee you will be happy "10 years later".
Some people will never be happy, if their family is not happy also.
I think you should listen to your parents.

Peyrol
04-11-2012, 09:47 PM
Say you meet someone,you really fall in love and it works perfect but the person is from a different religious background.What would you choose in the end,love or religion?

It depends: if both aren't extremists (for example something llike: catholic "crusader" of the Opus Dei with a slaafhith Muslim), the relation could work well.
Here is full of italian (catholic)/romanian (orthodox) families.

dralos
04-11-2012, 09:50 PM
didn't you yugoslavs mix like crazy in yugo times especially in bosnia so i don't see the problem today

Dilberth
04-11-2012, 09:52 PM
didn't you yugoslavs mix like crazy in yugo times especially in bosnia so i don't see the problem today

Dude you know how to start a shitstorm:D

Geronimo
04-11-2012, 09:56 PM
Love is inconstant and susceptible to change, your family is forever.
The "love" we feel when we are young is just a state of mind.
With this love there is even less guarantee you will be happy "10 years later".
Some people will never be happy, if their family is not happy also.
I think you should listen to your parents.

True that, actually I would say that your mother is the only person that will love you forever, unconditionally. Fathers are more detached from their offsprings ... GF's, wives ? they just pass by.

Incal
04-11-2012, 09:57 PM
Religion.Just the cultural differences will end this love soon or later.Not that relation between a man and a woman from the same religion are not having problems,but it will affect it.

At least to me if she belongs to a drastically dif. religion/culture than mine, I honestly doubt I'd ever feel something close to love to start with. You can't end something that hasn't even started.

Rastko
04-11-2012, 10:56 PM
didn't you yugoslavs mix like crazy in yugo times especially in bosnia so i don't see the problem today

Just retards mixed.

In 99% of cases it didn't work well and they regret it.

Hess
04-12-2012, 12:00 AM
If they don't have any problem with it who are you to say it is "retarded"

He is a European that cares about the future of his people. Relationships like this are destroying Europe and it doesn't matter whether they are happy or not.

Damião de Góis
04-12-2012, 12:05 AM
Say you meet someone,you really fall in love and it works perfect but the person is from a different religious background.What would you choose in the end,love or religion?

I don't care about religion so that wouldn't be a problem. Unless it affected our everyday life.

Lumi
04-12-2012, 11:18 AM
He is a European that cares about the future of his people. Relationships like this are destroying Europe and it doesn't matter whether they are happy or not.

Relationships like what?

Corvus
04-12-2012, 11:19 AM
Relationships like what?

Between people of different background

Lumi
04-12-2012, 11:22 AM
Between people of different background

Religious backgrounds?
Because the guy I'm currently dating is agnostic, and I'm still Pagan.

If you're talking about backgrounds in general, then I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you're always going to meet and fall in love with people of a different background.
That's the way nature made it.

Corvus
04-12-2012, 11:24 AM
Religious backgrounds?
Because the guy I'm currently dating is agnostic, and I'm still Pagan.

If you're talking about backgrounds in general, then I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you're always going to meet and fall in love with people of a different background.
That's the way nature made it.

It`s not me who is talking about this issue. I did not write anything on it.
I just explained it because you asked. So there seems to be a bit of misunderstanding ;)

Poglavnik
04-12-2012, 11:31 AM
If my daughter wanted to marry someone who isn't a Catholic Croat, I would disown her immediately and beat the crap out of the guy she wanted to marry.

Vixen
04-12-2012, 11:31 AM
To me the most important thing is that the person I am with has secular values. I am Catholic but I cannot stand fanatics and fundamentalists. I consider myself moderately religious, leaning towards agnostic.

Lumi
04-12-2012, 11:32 AM
It`s not me who is talking about this issue. I did not write anything on it.
I just explained it because you asked. So there seems to be a bit of misunderstanding ;)

Wasn't directed at you.

dralos
04-12-2012, 11:33 AM
If my daughter wanted to marry someone who isn't a Catholic Croat, I would disown her immediately.
what about a catholic albanian:D:D:D who is a croat in denial:D

The Ripper
04-12-2012, 11:36 AM
I would not date a muslim girl because I treasure my life too dearly. I don't want to get lynched by her male relatives.

Anarch
04-12-2012, 11:42 AM
not for me,i only marry albo chicks and this is not trolling but i don't think i can fall in love with a nonalbanian

Care to explain your infatuation with Mary, then? :thumb001:

Values are more important than religion. Mind you, it depends on the religiosity of both parties.


i think mixing religions is not really a sin, but if you have too different views on things its not that good because you clash, maybe both should agree on some basics, if you can work out some basiics on which you agree why not? i think white/black mixing even if its same religion would be the bigger issue

What's your view on an Orthodox Christian and a Roman Catholic getting married, then, assuming all else is equal?


You all are talking to me, like im going to marry him. :D

I don't understand the point of being in a relationship with someone if there is no clear path for it to progress into something deeper. Perhaps that's an attitude brought on by experience, though, but the learning of that lesson has cost me (I've yet to pay the pound of flesh for that lesson, but it's a mistake that'll be concluded by the end of next year). Just saying it might be something you should keep in mind. I would certainly be happier if I'd recognised that five years ago.

Vixen
04-12-2012, 11:50 AM
I don't understand the point of being in a relationship with someone if there is no clear path for it to progress into something deeper.

She´s very young and it´s not uncommon for people her age. There is "Mr. Right" and Mr. "Right Now" When I was her age I dated a few guys who I knew I would probably not end up having anything serious with or much less even marrying. Most people in their teens or early twenties aren´t really concerned with marriage. Our priorities change as we age. I´m 25 and I remember not too long ago I wasn´t even interested in having a serious relationship. Then I met my fiance and things changed.

Hurrem sultana
04-12-2012, 11:51 AM
Anarch you are 25 she is 16,,your relationship are different

Anarch
04-12-2012, 12:22 PM
Anarch you are 25 she is 16,,your relationship are different

I'd certainly hope so :D

Full disclosure: I'm seperated, currently in the process of a divorce, mostly because she doesn't want kids - ever.

Rastko
04-12-2012, 12:29 PM
Ah,you didn't get me clearly.

If she converts she would still be Ferida from Tuzla whose parents are Mehmed and Fatima.

And I'm gentlemen from Dubrovnik.

Those kind of thinks don't work well.

+Every family meeting would be awkward,and our kids mocked probably becoming leftist scum because of lacking identity.

lepa
04-12-2012, 12:32 PM
No Albanians, they are the lowest scum of all, even worse than Serbs.

LOL

dralos
04-12-2012, 12:33 PM
Ah,you didn't get me clearly.

If she converts she would still be Ferida from Tuzla whose parents are Mehmed and Fatima.

And I'm gentlemen from Dubrovnik.

Those kind of thinks don't work well.

+Every family meeting would be awkward,and our kids mocked probably becoming leftist scum because of lacking identity.
regent i agree with you,the children of those mariages will become just yugoslavs bcs they don't know what's better muslim or croatian
but aren't many people mixed in bosnia,i have read that if the war didn't occur everyone would have been mixed there by the rate the mixing was going

dralos
04-12-2012, 12:34 PM
LOL
yeah i just asked that question to reveal the monster in him so he can be vanished soon:D

Hurrem sultana
04-12-2012, 12:35 PM
Ah,you didn't get me clearly.

If she converts she would still be Ferida from Tuzla whose parents are Mehmed and Fatima.

And I'm gentlemen from Dubrovnik.

Those kind of thinks don't work well.

+Every family meeting would be awkward,and our kids mocked probably becoming leftist scum because of lacking identity.

Decide before marriage how you will bring up the kids,i am against the multi-culti crap too

It does not work

the only marriage(mixed bosniak-croat) that have worked that i know off,is because the man told his soon to be wife that the kids will be bosniaks-muslims,she can stay catholic-croat.she accepted.and they are all happy big family from mostar:D:D the daughter is what i would call almost a bosniak nationalist


But most people wont do it that way,they will give "neutral names",celebrate all holidays and just confuse the kids

Sultan Suleiman
04-12-2012, 12:39 PM
But most people wont do it that way,they will give "neutral names",celebrate all holidays and just confuse the kids

Or create the Bosniak-Croat master race bent on exterminating all non-Bosroat life :eek:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9KGfgg-d8s

dralos
04-12-2012, 12:41 PM
Or create the Bosniak-Croat master race bent on exterminating all non-Bosrat life :eek:
with the expression on rat:D

Sultan Suleiman
04-12-2012, 12:43 PM
I will raid your mother and sisters tonight.

(Just tell'em to wash I don't like the lard smell).


Oh, I like this one :)

Hurrem sultana
04-12-2012, 12:44 PM
I'd certainly hope so :D

Full disclosure: I'm seperated, currently in the process of a divorce, mostly because she doesn't want kids - ever.

you are only 25 and already come this far:D

iNird
04-12-2012, 12:53 PM
Religious background? Depends, if the other person is a deeply religious person than probably not. I have a Muslim background (for lack of a better term) and I wouldn't go for someone that is a devout Muslim either.

Sultan Suleiman
04-12-2012, 01:12 PM
These two posts will be deleted. Personal insults are not allowed!


We are just messing mate :)

Anarch
04-12-2012, 02:20 PM
you are only 25 and already come this far:D
LOL. I'm wise beyond my years ;)

Hurrem sultana
04-12-2012, 02:22 PM
LOL. I'm wise beyond my years ;)

just enjoy your life,you are too young for marriage,or you were :D

Loki
04-12-2012, 02:25 PM
Say you meet someone,you really fall in love and it works perfect but the person is from a different religious background.What would you choose in the end,love or religion?

Love is all that matters.

I would respect my partner, and wish her to keep her religion, as she wishes, I do not want to force her into anything. :)

Dilberth
04-12-2012, 02:33 PM
During the Habsburg Monarchy people tend to intermarry a lot...you have many people here with German,Hungarian,Czech etc surnames. But marrying someone from any place eastern of Croatia would be odd because their culture is like another planet to us.

Anarch
04-12-2012, 02:36 PM
just enjoy your life,you are too young for marriage,or you were :D

That's probably another contributing factor, though I think I was just married to the wrong woman. Several of my friends at work are my age or younger and have kids and have managed it all quite happily. There's more fish in the sea :)

Hurrem sultana
04-12-2012, 02:37 PM
During the Habsburg Monarchy people tend to intermarry a lot...you have many people here with German,Hungarian,Czech etc surnames. But marrying someone from any place eastern of Croatia would be odd because their culture is like another planet to us.

yeah right :D

Dilberth
04-12-2012, 02:38 PM
yeah right :D

Yes right.

Incal
04-12-2012, 03:48 PM
Decide before marriage how you will bring up the kids,i am against the multi-culti crap too

It does not work

the only marriage(mixed bosniak-croat) that have worked that i know off,is because the man told his soon to be wife that the kids will be bosniaks-muslims,she can stay catholic-croat.she accepted.and they are all happy big family from mostar:D:D the daughter is what i would call almost a bosniak nationalist


But most people wont do it that way,they will give "neutral names",celebrate all holidays and just confuse the kids

Exactly. If these kind of relationships are going to 'work' one of the parts has to give up its culture and values. Since I'd rather be dead than having muslim kids, I'll just marry a moderate christian or an agnostic like me.

Anarch
04-12-2012, 03:49 PM
Exactly. If these kind of relationships are going to 'work' one of the parts has to give up its culture and values. Since I'd rather be dead than having muslim kids, I'll just marry a moderate christian or an agnostic like me.

Not sure you'll run into many Muslim women in Peru, Incal :p

Lithium
04-12-2012, 03:52 PM
The Orthodox Christianity is just a parody, it is like a neo-pagan religion, it has a strong pagan background and just a little semitic influences. So it's not a problem for me, I wouldn't marry in a church or name my children with Christian names though.

Incal
04-12-2012, 04:28 PM
Not sure you'll run into many Muslim women in Peru, Incal :p

LOL it was just an hipothetic example. But you are right, one of the few good things about Latin America is that it's muslim-free.

Europa
04-12-2012, 04:34 PM
The Orthodox Christianity is just a parody, it is like a neo-pagan religion, it has a strong pagan background and just a little semitic influences. So it's not a problem for me, I wouldn't marry in a church or name my children with Christian names though.

Yet you sound as a pathetic young lad confused by his teenage crisis:coffee:

Lithium
04-12-2012, 06:32 PM
Yet you sound as a pathetic young lad confused by his teenage crisis:coffee:

My teenage crisis is long gone. Don't deny the pagan roots of the Orthodox Christianity, almost all traditions are identical to the pagan ones, they just use different names and symbolism.

Europa
04-12-2012, 09:53 PM
The Orthodox Christianity is just a parody, it is like a neo-pagan religion, it has a strong pagan background and just a little semitic influences. So it's not a problem for me, I wouldn't marry in a church or name my children with Christian names though.

I shall not derail this thread,so I will only tell you that the parody you are talking about is one of the main reasons you still speak Bulgarian.If you are one at all?There is nothing wrong,if you are an atheist,pagan or whatever but to talk like that is very imature yet disrespectful to your country.

Cheers.

Lithium
04-12-2012, 09:55 PM
I shall not derail this thread,so I will only tell you that the parody you are talking about is one of the main reasons you still speak Bulgarian.If you are one at all?There is nothing wrong,if you are an atheist,pagan or whatever but to talk like that is very imature yet disrespectful to your country.

Cheers.

Visit a church someday and see for yourself, you are acting imature because you are offending me by the way :D

Europa
04-12-2012, 09:58 PM
Visit a church someday and see for yourself, you are acting imature because you are offending me by the way :D


Както кажеш,пич...:coffee:

Kazimiera
04-12-2012, 11:47 PM
I think that if both people are committed equally to their relationship as well as their religion then there should be no problems. Easier said than done.

There is often a power struggle between two religions, where one partner tries to convert the other to their religion or at least their own point of view. If both do not have this "struggle" and the expectation of the other to become what they are then it can work.

I think children would pose a problem though. What religion is the child going to be? Each parent will want their child to be their own religion and neither of them will be likely to budge.

So what of child with a Jewish mother and a Muslim father? According to Islam the child is the religion of the father, and according to Judaism the child is automatically the religion of the mother. I can foresee some problems here.

Even within Christian denominations there will be struggles but I see them being far worse if there are totally different systems.

Hurrem sultana
04-13-2012, 10:40 AM
Както кажеш,пич...:coffee:

Accept that not all bulgarians agree with you:coffee:

Heart of Oak
04-16-2012, 12:24 PM
It's a personal thing...

EuroAmericanProud
04-16-2012, 05:17 PM
love

Hevneren
04-16-2012, 05:36 PM
It's not just about religion versus love. It's a matter of whether the person you'll share your life with, respects you or not. If someone doesn't accept you for who you are, why waste your time on them?

I'm not religious, and if the girl I fell in love with was religious and she respected me for who I am, I would choose to be with her.

Hevneren
04-16-2012, 06:08 PM
Decide before marriage how you will bring up the kids,i am against the multi-culti crap too

It does not work

the only marriage(mixed bosniak-croat) that have worked that i know off,is because the man told his soon to be wife that the kids will be bosniaks-muslims,she can stay catholic-croat.she accepted.and they are all happy big family from mostar:D:D the daughter is what i would call almost a bosniak nationalist


But most people wont do it that way,they will give "neutral names",celebrate all holidays and just confuse the kids

So you're saying one part of a relationship should forget to teach their kids about their heritage, just to please the other? And how is it "multi-culti crap" to respect and cherish the culture and ethnicity of the person you'll share you life with and have children with? I consider it respectful and right, since that person is your love and your equal in the relationship, and when you have children together 50% of their bloodline comes from your partner. It's literally in their blood!

Bosnian, do you remember asking me if I had anything against Bosnian girls, in the chat box? I told you I don't know anyone so I can't really judge. If I met a nice Bosnian Muslim (or non-Muslim) girl who loved and respected me, my culture and heritage, and who would never demand that I'd convert or change who I am, I wouldn't reject her love and affection.

It's a matter of mutual respect. If I am to feel that a relationship is going anywhere, I have to respect the girl in question and she has to respect me. If she, on the other hand, makes many generalising statements about how terrible my culture is, that Norwegians are weak, that she doesn't like living here etc. and seems disrespectful, I would have to think long and hard about whether she truly will respect me and accept me as an equal in a relationship. Does that make sense?

Tony
04-16-2012, 06:32 PM
Love all the way it has the power to break any barrier, cultural or "racial" and even religious it's that powerful.

It would be great if it were so, but it's more of a naive wishful thinking.

A relationship doesn't end in just love, huggin, kissing and gettin laid, hubby and wife are not "loving machines"

Say you have babies, how will you educate 'em?

Sooner or later rows, quarrels pop up and the diversity in religion work as multiplier of occasions...

Tough reality is that mixed marriages (both ethnically and culturally) show higher risk of breaking up.

You could survive only if you're (very) rich or (very) educated or really doesn't care about religion, and if the milieu around you (family, friends etc) is not religious.

And it doesn't matter if he/she say he/she doesn't care about religion, if the family is religious and it happens you live in a country where familiar bonds still work it's likely that the diversity emerge later.

Hurrem sultana
04-16-2012, 06:36 PM
So you're saying one part of a relationship should forget to teach their kids about their heritage, just to please the other? And how is it "multi-culti crap" to respect and cherish the culture and ethnicity of the person you'll share you life with and have children with? I consider it respectful and right, since that person is your love and your equal in the relationship, and when you have children together 50% of their bloodline comes from your partner. It's literally in their blood!

Bosnian, do you remember asking me if I had anything against Bosnian girls, in the chat box? I told you I don't know anyone so I can't really judge. If I met a nice Bosnian Muslim (or non-Muslim) girl who loved and respected me, my culture and heritage, and who would never demand that I'd convert or change who I am, I wouldn't reject her love and affection.

It's a matter of mutual respect. If I am to feel that a relationship is going anywhere, I have to respect the girl in question and she has to respect me. If she, on the other hand, makes many generalising statements about how terrible my culture is, that Norwegians are weak, that she doesn't like living here etc. and seems disrespectful, I would have to think long and hard about whether she truly will respect me and accept me as an equal in a relationship. Does that make sense?


No i am not saying one should ignore their heritage but what i suggest is(for the sake of the kids) to let one side "dominate" when it comes to children.I know too many individuals(from Bosnia) that fit in nowhere....because mom is croat,dad bosniak/serb/other-..they are confused,in a society like Bosnia that is not good.In Norway it might work

brunette
04-16-2012, 06:43 PM
No I don't care I was raised by my Father as a strict Christian and as soon as I was old enough i stopped practising Christianity.

Hevneren
04-16-2012, 06:47 PM
No i am not saying one should ignore their heritage but what i suggest is(for the sake of the kids) to let one side "dominate" when it comes to children.I know too many individuals(from Bosnia) that fit in nowhere....because mom is croat,dad bosniak/serb/other-..they are confused,in a society like Bosnia that is not good.In Norway it might work

In the bolded part, are you saying that Bosnia is too "split up" (Muslim versus Christian etc.), and that this isn't the case in Norway?

I see your point, but don't you think the kids should learn about their heritage from both sides, and don't you also think that in the Balkans it may be a good idea to accept differences rather than to suppress them? You can't learn to accept your neighbour if your child can't even accept 50% of its own heritage.

I'm not talking about politically correct multiculturalism here, don't get me wrong. That's a different discussion. I'm just saying that there are differences in Bosnia, and they exist whether you (general you) acknowledge them or not.

brunette
04-16-2012, 06:49 PM
It's not just about religion versus love. It's a matter of whether the person you'll share your life with, respects you or not. If someone doesn't accept you for who you are, why waste your time on them?

I'm not religious, and if the girl I fell in love with was religious and she respected me for who I am, I would choose to be with her.

Yeah exactly.

Tony
04-16-2012, 07:01 PM
Keep in mind that, in a couple, if a part, he or she, is brought to restrain his/her true inner self, his/her deepest nature, it's very likely it will come a day when he/she will reproach him/her with all.

Kazimiera
04-16-2012, 08:28 PM
So you're saying one part of a relationship should forget to teach their kids about their heritage, just to please the other? And how is it "multi-culti crap" to respect and cherish the culture and ethnicity of the person you'll share you life with and have children with? I consider it respectful and right, since that person is your love and your equal in the relationship, and when you have children together 50% of their bloodline comes from your partner. It's literally in their blood!

Bosnian, do you remember asking me if I had anything against Bosnian girls, in the chat box? I told you I don't know anyone so I can't really judge. If I met a nice Bosnian Muslim (or non-Muslim) girl who loved and respected me, my culture and heritage, and who would never demand that I'd convert or change who I am, I wouldn't reject her love and affection.

It's a matter of mutual respect. If I am to feel that a relationship is going anywhere, I have to respect the girl in question and she has to respect me. If she, on the other hand, makes many generalising statements about how terrible my culture is, that Norwegians are weak, that she doesn't like living here etc. and seems disrespectful, I would have to think long and hard about whether she truly will respect me and accept me as an equal in a relationship. Does that make sense?

:thumb001:

Yaroslav
04-17-2012, 04:59 AM
I'd try to convert that person. If she fails to convert I'd leave her. Also it depends what religion, if it's Abrahamic than I'll give her a chance but if it's atheist, pagan, or satanist I would never fall in love with that person in the first place, I'd get repelled by those characteristics. Buddhism and Hinduism are not mentioned because I don't mix my race.

Foxy
04-18-2012, 08:33 AM
Already happens, me atheist, he christian pro forma. We don't have problems, as none of us is extremist in its own way ( I don't try to persuade him that God doesn't exist and he goes to the church only for weddings and funerals like me). I had problems with some schoolmates who tried to re-convert me to catholicism. So I think mutual respect is the first thing.

The question is a bit stupid. It's like asking would you marry a person with an other political ideology?