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alb0zfinest
04-17-2012, 04:06 AM
The discovery of one of the oldest farming communities in Europe that used domesticated animals was reported by Susan Allen, a professor in the University of Cincinnati (UC) Department of Anthropology and Ilirjan Gjipali of the Albanian Institute of Archaeology at the UC web site on April 16, 2012. The research will be presented April 20 at the annual meeting of the Society for American Archaeology (SAA).

Vashtėmi, located in southeastern Albania, is one of the earliest known Early Neolithic farming sites ever discovered in Europe and dates to 6500 B.C. Photographs of the site can be seen at the UC News web site here.

Evidence from the dig site indicates that prehistoric Albanian farmers grew emmer, einkorn and barley. These earliest of farmers were also documented to have raised pigs, cattle, sheep and goats that are assumed by the researchers to have been acquired from other areas of the Near East.

The archeological evidence unearthed so far indicates the availability of other sources of food like deer, wild hogs, and fish as well as the water sources were a primary factor in the Early Neolithic Albanians choice of the area. Framing was in its infancy at the time and was not considered a primary factor in the choice of the site as a home by Early Neolithic Albanians but the wetland nature of the area actually improved the capabilities of these first European farmers.

This is the first such discovery in Albania. The discovery was the first made as a cooperative effort between scientists from Spain, France, Greece Albania, and the United States under the auspices of the Southern Albania Neolithic Archaeological Project (SANAP).
http://www.examiner.com/paeleontology-in-national/earliest-farming-site-europe-found-albania

dralos
04-17-2012, 06:45 PM
this just proves again that we have always lived there,very interesting and it shows that albanians are one of the most ancient people of europe
thx brother for this article

Duke
04-17-2012, 06:54 PM
this just proves again that we have always lived there,very interesting and it shows that albanians are one of the most ancient people of europe
thx brother for this article

really, i would think just opposite, werent you hiding on mountains as shepards, with no agricultural skills at all until more recent times.

As i know of, that is how you explain your survival in Balkans, LOL

safinator
04-17-2012, 06:58 PM
really, i would think just opposite, werent you hiding on mountains as shepards, with no agricultural skills at all until more recent times.

As i know of, that is how you explain your survival in Balkans, LOL
8000 years ago.
They might have moved to the Mountains in over 8000 years.

Yaroslav
05-20-2012, 12:45 AM
World was created in 4000 BC therefore this is invalid.

dralos
05-20-2012, 12:48 AM
World was created in 4000 BC therefore this is invalid.so what does this tell you we're above humanity:D

Siegfried
05-20-2012, 12:49 AM
this just proves again that we have always lived there,very interesting and it shows that albanians are one of the most ancient people of europe
thx brother for this article

However, the sites were just found in Albania, that does not mean these were ancient Albanians, culturally speaking, as the IE languages entered Europe later.

Insuperable
05-20-2012, 12:51 AM
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dralos
05-20-2012, 12:54 AM
However, the sites were just found in Albania, that does not mean these were ancient Albanians, culturally speaking, as the IE languages entered Europe later.
they probably were pelagsians or something like that as we have maxed ev13 this can mean that these people are our ancesters too or part of it

Siegfried
05-20-2012, 12:55 AM
so what does this tell you we're above humanity:D

I sacrifice this woman to you, Great Dralos!

http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/adrianne-palicki-wonder-woman-nbc.jpg

dralos
05-20-2012, 12:56 AM
I sacrifice this woman to you, Great Dralos!

http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/adrianne-palicki-wonder-woman-nbc.jpg
brotha you may make a wish wich will be granted
and now i'm gone gotta have some fun with this new present:D

Siegfried
05-20-2012, 12:56 AM
they probably were pelagsians or something like that as we have maxed ev13 this can mean that these people are our ancesters too or part of it

Yes, you would be descended from them at least partially, but I was saying that they probably didn't speak Albanian or were the same as modern Albanians (culturally speaking).

dralos
05-20-2012, 12:58 AM
Yes, you would be descended from them at least partially, but I was saying that they probably didn't speak Albanian or were the same as modern Albanians (culturally speaking).
that can be as our language is illyrian and this people were here before them

Siegfried
05-20-2012, 12:59 AM
brotha you may make a wish wich will be granted
and now i'm gone gotta have some fun with this new present:D

Send me one of those Albo Goddesses I've heard so much of, so that I can breed a new race of superior humans.:D

The one with the white shirt should do:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg405/scaled.php?server=405&filename=albanians2.jpg&res=landing

dralos
05-20-2012, 01:00 AM
Send me one of those Albo Goddesses I've heard so much of, so that I can breed a new race of superior humans.:D

The one with the white shirt should do:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg405/scaled.php?server=405&filename=albanians2.jpg&res=landing
nice chose bro,they're highlanders meaning she is going to provide you a nice,healthy and very strong child,ready to conquer the world with his father:thumb001:

Kalimtari
03-03-2014, 12:23 PM
Earliest farming site in Europe found in Albania

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/c6/5f/c65f1201a36e719439515f32d717db36.JPG?itok=5138PkYf


http://www.examiner.com/article/earliest-farming-site-europe-found-albania

The King, I am
03-03-2014, 12:25 PM
E1B1B

Kalimtari
03-03-2014, 12:26 PM
DNA study finds invaders first farmed Europe
Updated Wed 10 Nov 2010, 1:59pm AEDT

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/1616762-3x2-340x227.jpg

A team of international researchers led by ancient DNA experts from Adelaide University have traced the origins of the people who introduced farming to Europe about 8,000 years ago.

The first farming communities were invaders from what is now Turkey rather than from the hunter gatherers around Germany, as earlier thought.

Researcher Dr Wolfgang Haak says a detailed genetic picture has been developed of the farming population and it reveals radical differences from the nomadic populations already present.

"We have finally resolved the question of who the first farmers in Europe were; invaders with revolutionary new ideas, rather than populations of Stone Age hunter-gatherers who already existed in the area," he said.

He said the potential route the invaders took has been worked out.

"We have also been able to use genetic signatures to identify a potential route from the Near East and Anatolia, where farming evolved around 11,000 years ago, via south-eastern Europe and the Carpathian Basin (now Hungary) into central Europe," he explained.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-11-10/dna-study-finds-invaders-first-farmed-europe/2331462

Kalimtari
03-03-2014, 12:27 PM
E1B1B

Hell yeah, baby!


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Kalimtari
03-03-2014, 12:30 PM
Human Fossils Reveal Europe’s Prehistoric Hunter-Gatherers And Farmers Intermingled For Two Millenia
Read more at http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1112972678/europes-prehistoric-hunter-gatherers-and-farmers-intermingled-for-millenia-101113/#HDbLqT3gr8EwSsYK.99

http://www.redorbit.com/media/uploads/2013/10/human-bones_TS_153005344-617x416.jpg

Prisoner Of Ice
03-03-2014, 03:15 PM
DNA study finds invaders first farmed Europe
Updated Wed 10 Nov 2010, 1:59pm AEDT

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/1616762-3x2-340x227.jpg

A team of international researchers led by ancient DNA experts from Adelaide University have traced the origins of the people who introduced farming to Europe about 8,000 years ago.

The first farming communities were invaders from what is now Turkey rather than from the hunter gatherers around Germany, as earlier thought.

Researcher Dr Wolfgang Haak says a detailed genetic picture has been developed of the farming population and it reveals radical differences from the nomadic populations already present.

"We have finally resolved the question of who the first farmers in Europe were; invaders with revolutionary new ideas, rather than populations of Stone Age hunter-gatherers who already existed in the area," he said.

He said the potential route the invaders took has been worked out.

"We have also been able to use genetic signatures to identify a potential route from the Near East and Anatolia, where farming evolved around 11,000 years ago, via south-eastern Europe and the Carpathian Basin (now Hungary) into central Europe," he explained.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-11-10/dna-study-finds-invaders-first-farmed-europe/2331462

Wait, they don't give any actual evidence here, they just say it's the case.

Prisoner Of Ice
03-03-2014, 03:19 PM
Human Fossils Reveal Europe’s Prehistoric Hunter-Gatherers And Farmers Intermingled For Two Millenia
Read more at http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1112972678/europes-prehistoric-hunter-gatherers-and-farmers-intermingled-for-millenia-101113/#HDbLqT3gr8EwSsYK.99

http://www.redorbit.com/media/uploads/2013/10/human-bones_TS_153005344-617x416.jpg

The problem here is that the farming in central europe they are looking at has DNA that's very mixed up and is in a time frame where it's known farming from sea route had long since made it to europe.

Kalimtari
03-03-2014, 04:17 PM
Wait, they don't give any actual evidence here, they just say it's the case.

it's just a news article, study should be published in scientific data base.

Prisoner Of Ice
03-03-2014, 04:43 PM
Checked into it and earliest farming sites are still about 9000-9500 BC. So it's closer to origin than they imply - it's not just (one of) earliest in europe but one of very earliest, period.

Kalimtari
03-03-2014, 06:06 PM
The problem here is that the farming in central europe they are looking at has DNA that's very mixed up and is in a time frame where it's known farming from sea route had long since made it to europe.

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/336/6080/466

check the "full text" option

justme
03-10-2014, 10:15 PM
really, i would think just opposite, werent you hiding on mountains as shepards, with no agricultural skills at all until more recent times.

As i know of, that is how you explain your survival in Balkans, LOL
Dear Stupid Brain
Lol! You are really dumb.
Sencerely Smart Brain

Prisoner Of Ice
03-10-2014, 11:44 PM
People 10k years ago or more are not likely too much to do with current people. Even in 1000 years things change a lot.