Most hated european nation.

[Rereg]

Which native european nation are the hated?

Let's discuss about it because I noticed a lot of negative sentiment among european people.

[Mercury]

Russia is the largest, most powerful nation in Europe and the most hated by the international community.

[European Loyalist]

Russia is the largest, most powerful nation in Europe and the most hated by the international community.

It's certainly the largest but it is by no means the most powerful. Not in terms of economy or military.

[Rereg]

Russia is the largest, most powerful nation in Europe and the most hated by the international community.

Partially I agree with you. I think Russians are hated by their neighbors and despised by Westerners.

[member]

It's certainly the largest but it is by no means the most powerful. Not in terms of economy or military.

Russia likes to threaten it's neighbours and use it's economy aka oil
Title: Russian gunboat diplomacy through its gas exports to Europe
http://www.karikatura.lt/wp-content/uploads/russian_oil_gun1.jpg
Source (http://www.karikatura.lt/lt/english-russian-gunboat-diplomacy-through-its-gas-exports-to-europe/)

It's a part of it's so called unEuropean type of diplomacy.

[Sikeliot]

Russian

[Rouxinol]

Probably Germany. Hitler left a huge negative imprint on Germany up to these days. And Angela Merkel is not helping.

[Lábaru]

Spain.

[Aces High]

France for sure.

The English hate the French,so do Italians and so do Germans.

(I quite like them myself)

[poodletroglodyte]

Vaticanians due to Catholic sex abuse cases.:wink

[Rereg]

The English hate the French

But French never occupied England while English soldiers occupied France during "Hundred Years War".

[StonyArabia]

Albania
Kosovo
Bosina
Russia

The most hated.

[Aces High]

But French never occupied England while English soldiers occupied France during "Hundred Years War".

;)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_conquest_of_England

[member]

Vaticanians due to Catholic sex abuse cases.:wink

Many people probably don't even know that Vatican is a sovereign country.

[Rereg]

Albania
Kosovo

Yeah... Europeans, especially Slavs don't like muslim Shqiptares.

[Midori]

Albania
Kosovo
Bosina
Russia

The most hated.

I'd say Serbia instead of Bosnia.

[Arrow Cross]

Soon to be us. Already a howwible thweat to democwacy.

[Apina]

In the Swiss community, it is fair to say that it is Germans (sorry!)

[Harmonia]

I'd say Russians. Lots of Eastern Europeans hates the large Russian minority in their countries and Russian influence on their culture. Western Europeans usually tends to hate Russian immigrants as well. Well, it's not unnatural for a powerful nation to be despised by other and the reason for that is pretty clear. Albanians are also quite hated.

[Rereg]

;)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_conquest_of_England

Well, I see that a lot of british nationalists who are proud of own norman ancestry. :D

[Lábaru]

Five hundred million South Americans cannot be wrong.

[Rereg]

I think Poles are the hated european nations. Balts, Irish, Russians, Germans and Brits are against us.

[poodletroglodyte]

I think Poles are the hated european nations. Balts, Irish, Russians, Germans and Brits are against us.

And Jews don't forget about Jews:D

[member]

And Jews don't forget about Jews:D

Somehow I suspect that Latvians are much more neutral toward Poles than Lithuanians.

Speaking about Russians in Lithuania, they generally are integrated quite well (they're not very numerous here). People don't really hate Russian minority.

[Harmonia]

Somehow I suspect that Latvians are much more neutral toward Poles than Lithuanians.

Speaking about Russians in Lithuania, they generally are integrated quite well (they're not very numerous here). People don't really hate Russian minority.

If you take Lithuania as a whole, then I agree, there aren't too much of them, especially when you compare it with Russian minority in Latvia. But, as far as I know, lots of people from Vilnius complains about Russian minority as it is quite large there.

[Supreme American]

Easy call - Germans. For obvious reasons.

[Rereg]

People don't really hate Russian minority.

Because Russians after WW2 gave you Vinian country. :rolleyes:

[Lithium]

They way our medias present Bulgaria and Romania maybe we are really the most hated nations.

[Mordid]

Because Russians after WW2 gave you Vinian country. :rolleyes:
And don't forget, she's partly Russian. xD

[Peter Nirsch]

Albanians and Serbs.

[Leliana]

Germany in the lead? Haters gonna hate. Or how we say in Germany: 'Hasser werden hassen'. :cool:

http://chzhistoriclols.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/funny-pictures-history-hasser-werde-hassen.jpg

[Adrian]

Albania
Kosovo
Bosina
Russia

The most hated.

Salam Alaykoum

http://comps.canstockphoto.com/can-stock-photo_csp5484379.jpg

[Hess]

I think it's a tie between Russia and Albania.

[Vasconcelos]

Andorra for obvious reasons.

[ficuscarica]

In the Swiss community, it is fair to say that it is Germans (sorry!)

Well, they are overly proud and jealous, so who cares.

Die pöhse Dütsche chuchichäschdli chchchrrrchhchchrrrrrchr Schwyz chchrrchrrrch

I personally simply don´t care about Switzerland. It´s far too narrow-minded to be the kind of country I could like. You feel like in a prison there, imo.

But I also have cool friends from Switzerland.... I´m talking about the majority here.

[Aces High]

Hevreren.

[dralos]

albania is only hated by serbs,the rest doesnt hate us

[ficuscarica]

Germans hate the Eastern European South-Eastern European countries because of the criminals, especially from Bulgaria and Poland.

[Rereg]

Germans hate the Eastern European South-Eastern European countries because of the criminals, especially from Bulgaria and Poland.

Yeah Poles and Germans don't like each other.

[ficuscarica]

Yeah Poles and Germans don't like each other.

Not necessarily. I think Germans have a bad view of the country because of criminality, but non-criminal Poles that live here often are well integrated. My uncle´s wife is Polish for example.

[Yaroslav]

Probably Germans for obvious reasons.

[Adrian]

I have a feeling that we'll win this time. It is a nice feeling to beat Germans, at least in one field :ranger:

[Hess]

Not necessarily. I think Germans have a bad view of the country because of criminality, but non-criminal Poles that live here often are well integrated. My uncle´s wife is Polish for example.

I think there are also some bad blood between Nationalists from both Countries between Silesia.

[ficuscarica]

I think there are also some bad blood between Nationalists from both Countries between Silesia.

That´s a small, non-relevant number. The main reason is criminality. There are quite a few jokes about Polish people, all have to do with stealing.
But non-criminal people from Poland aren´t a problem for most Germans.

[riverman]

French, Russians, Portugese, Swedes, Finns, Austrians, Bulgarians, Greeks, English. :coffee:

[Vasconcelos]

Portugese

At least spell it right lol

[riverman]

At least spell it right lol

Wgy, are you the little resident proof-reader? Lol.

[Hurrem sultana]

Serbia

Russia

Croatia

[Vasconcelos]

Wgy, are you the little resident proof-reader? Lol.

I am.

[Insuperable]

I must defend Germany in this case because it is obvious that it is the most hated because of the ww2.

I am quite sure that every psychology student learns about one very charismatic leader of a cult which was the first case of mass suicide. I repeat, mass suicide.
He was so charismatic that he made 100 people to commit a suicide.

The same is with Germans. Germany was a "victim" of its own technological development. In those days almost all German had a radio and early TV in their homes. Historians agree that it was the first time ever in the history of a dictatorship that one mans voice could be heard in every corner of a country.
So, it is enough that one charismatic person starts a world war.

If you look at it now it is Germany who helps the most in Europe and the only one who really wants to help others.

[Arne]

Which native european nation are the hated?

Let's discuss about it because I noticed a lot of negative sentiment among european people.

Idk why Germans are even included in this Poll ?

[Loki]

I must defend Germany in this case because it is obvious that it is the most hated because of the ww2.

I am quite sure that every psychology student learns about one very charismatic leader of a cult which was the first case of mass suicide. I repeat, mass suicide.
He was so charismatic that he made 100 people to commit a suicide.

The same is with Germans. Germany was a "victim" of its own technological development. In those days almost all German had a radio and early TV in their homes. Historians agree that it was the first time ever in the history of a dictatorship that one mans voice could be heard in every corner of a country.
So, it is enough that one charismatic person starts a world war.

If you look at it now it is Germany who helps the most in Europe and the only one who really wants to help others.

Germany is now being vindicated and awarded money and power for their work spirit and diligence. They and Sarkozy rule the EU as their empire since the UK is not interested. UK's loss! :( (and the Germans don't feel sorry for it either. They've been saying sorry for too long)

[Loki]

Germany was a "victim" of its own technological development.

We even have colour photography from the Third Reich ..

[Arne]

We all focuss too much on Germany..
What has been is done.
All Hatred against Germans is useless at the end when it degrades them which think bad of them.

[Peyrol]

Which native european nation are the hated?

Let's discuss about it because I noticed a lot of negative sentiment among european people.

We're hated by everyone in this continent, except Spain, Greece, Malta, Switzerland, France and Portugal.
Just pure envy. :laugh:

[Albion]

But French never occupied England while English soldiers occupied France during "Hundred Years War".

We hate them for winning. ;) BTW, it was a dynastic struggle.

[Loki]

Germans are strong enough to smile on those who hate them :p

[Arne]

Germans are strong enough to smile on those who hate them :p

I don´t think Germans are so strong, Afterall they could be Humans too ??

[member]

Because Russians after WW2 gave you Vinian country. :rolleyes:

Please, stop trolling. I know you are provoking me to give you some basic history lessons but I'm not going to waste my time for trolls.

[Rereg]

Not necessarily. I think Germans have a bad view of the country because of criminality, but non-criminal Poles that live here often are well integrated. My uncle´s wife is Polish for example.

Heh, German guys love buy poor eastern european and asian girls because they are submissive, pro-family, and quiet unlike german women. :D

I think polish community in Germany has much more negative attitude to native inhabitants of your country than Poles from UK or other western states. Possibly it's the reason polish criminality.



Please, stop trolling. I know you are provoking me to give you some basic history lessons but I'm not going to waste my time for trolls.

Lol... After WW2 Stalin joined to "lithuanian soviet socialist republic" polish north-eastern territory. It's historical fact and I hope that most Balts know about it. :)

[ficuscarica]

If you say so... I don´t know from where he knows her, but she is a pretty normal woman actually.
With criminals I´m mainly talking about Poles in Poland that steal cars when you´re on vacation or that come to German places near the border to steal at night.

[Arne]

Heh, German guys love buy poor eastern european and asian girls because they are submissive, pro-family, and quiet unlike german women. :D

I think polish community in Germany has much more negative attitude to native inhabitants of your country than Poles from UK or other western states. Possibly it's the reason polish criminality.




Lol... After WW2 Stalin joined to "lithuanian soviet socialist republic" polish north-eastern territory. It's historical fact and I hope that most Balts know about it. :)
Hello Mordid :wink

Need my Copper Cables back now !!

[rashka]

This was an easy vote.

[Rereg]

With criminals I´m mainly talking about Poles in Poland that steal cars when you´re on vacation or that come to German places near the border to steal at night.

Every year Poland is visited by thousands of western tourists and usually they haven't problem with criminality. Perhaps polish thieves "love" Germans. :D

[ficuscarica]

It is not only Germans that have problems with criminal Poles. Britain has special planes to bring them back. :D
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-535052/How-Polish-killers-drug-smugglers-rapists-run-Britain-sent-home-Con-Air-flights.html

Or just googe "Polish thieves" and you will see others have problems with stealing Poles, too.

[Rereg]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-535052/How-Polish-killers-drug-smugglers-rapists-run-Britain-sent-home-Con-Air-flights.html


Killers, Drug-smugglers or rapists exist among every european community, even among Germans. Most polish immigrants aren't criminals.

[ficuscarica]

In Russian language, the term mazurik, a synonym for "pickpocket", "petty thief",[16] literally means "a person from Masuria, a geographical area in Poland.
source: wikipedia

Look, unlike your hate against Germans I don´t hate Poles. I just explain why many people in Germany don´t like Poles.

[Rereg]

Look, unlike your hate against Germans I don´t hate Poles.

Poles hate Germans for thousands of important reasons while German hate against Poles is usually only post-imperial arrogance.



In Russian language, the term mazurik, a synonym for "pickpocket", "petty thief",[16] literally means "a person from Masuria, a geographical area in Poland.

Please, it's only coincidence of terms. In polish for example Germans /Niemcy/ mean silent.

[ficuscarica]

Well, some people are stuck in the past. While Poles today give Germans more reason to hate them than vice versa Poles point back to our grandparents.

[Rereg]

While Poles today give Germans more reason to hate them

Sorry but modern Poland is german semi-colony, for example after communist regime 80% of polish newspaper concerns have been sold for german media concerns /axelspringer etc./. A lot of polish sugar factories were destroyed by new german owners. These are more important problems than polish pickpockets

[Arne]

Poles hate Germans for thousands of important reasons while German hate against Poles is usually only post-imperial arrogance.




Please, it's only coincidence of terms. In polish for example Germans /Niemcy/ mean silent.

There´s no need to hate Germans by polish Standards.
Poles should be silent to accuse Germans for anything what´s wrong in their Country.
We are not responsible anymore for what happened to poland..
Stop making up drama ..

Baghatur is that the Reason to like Posts of Mordid and Artek ?
You seem to be made of glass than.

Grow up Baghatur

[ficuscarica]

Maybe some nations hate Germany, because they have stolen German land and still can´t compete with Germany. :D

[Adrian]

Maybe some nations hate Germany, because they have stolen German land and still can´t compete with Germany. :D

I don't think so. I've voted Germany just to have a friend in the top of the poll :coffee:


The truth is that we (albanians) highly appreciate German country and nation.

[ficuscarica]

Why do Albanians like Germany?

[Rereg]

Maybe some nations hate Germany, because they have stolen German land and still can´t compete with Germany. :D

It was allusion to the polish people? Sorry man but after WW2 Poles didn't have any influence to boundary changes in Europe. Personally I think our modern western lands are compensation for german crimes.

[Adrian]

Why do Albanians like Germany?

Because Germany has helped Albanians in the last two decades.

[Rereg]

Because Germany has helped Albanians in the last two decades and supported us during WW2

fixed. :)

[Capricornus]

In polish for example Germans /Niemcy/ mean silent.
It is no coincidence. Slavs could not understand what the Germans say.Slavs called them nemci. Nemci = a person who speaks indistinctly.

[Lábaru]

I'm surprised that Spain only has one vote, my vote, most of South American called us thieves and genocides, most of North America blame us for the invasion of Hispanic immigrants, Northern Africa hates us because ... because we exist, the Arab world hates us because we are the perfect example of Catholicism and invincible enemies of Islam, half of Europe has a habit of attacking our territorial integrity as a Spanish Nation and the other half feels violated by our offensive and frequent samples of masculinity.

[Sultan Suleiman]

Partially I agree with you. I think Russians are hated by their neighbors and despised by Westerners.

With a good bloody reason :rolleyes2:

[ficuscarica]

It was allusion to the polish people? Sorry man but after WW2 Poles didn't have any influence to boundary changes in Europe. Personally I think our modern western lands are compensation for german crimes.

Both Poles and French. They received billions of Euros for compensation, no need for land-stealing and ethnic cleansings. Well, I have to say I feel sorry for what the Wehrmacht did to the Polish people. But I don´t really feel sorry for the French, as they tried the same with Germany whenever they could. Really, if Germany had been able to annex some parts of France it would be perfectly ok for me. :thumb001: It´s good that we have peace now, though.

[Adrian]

fixed. :)

Right, but I was talking about my own experience, not about history :)
In a period of World War II, Albanian lands have been united based on the ethnic/historical map.

[ficuscarica]

Because Germany has helped Albanians in the last two decades.

I see. Don´t know much about it to be honest. Are you talking about the wars? Economical aid? :confused:

[Drawing-slim]

Because Germany has helped Albanians in the last two decades.

Not to mention actually hitler liberated all the albanian lands, and under hitler we had the great albania.

Whats interesting is that where i grew up there're the most loyal die hard german socker fans anywhere in the world. people even are named feler, shumaker, bekenbauer, etc, after famous german players.

[Sarmatian]

I'm surprised that Spain only has one vote, my vote, most of South American called us thieves and genocides, most of North America blame us for the invasion of Hispanic immigrants, Northern Africa hates us because ... because we exist, the Arab world hates us because we are the perfect example of Catholicism and invincible enemies of Islam, half of Europe has a habit of attacking our territorial integrity as a Spanish Nation and the other half feels violated by our offensive and frequent samples of masculinity.

Not sure what are you talking about. I'm yet to meet at least 1 person who bears ill will towards Spain. Sorry to disappoint you but 99.99% of people in Europe just don't give a damn about it.

[Adrian]

I see. Don´t know much about it to be honest. Are you talking about the wars? Economical aid? :confused:

I am talking in general.

Economic and political aid still continues, and we are grateful for that.

[Rereg]

Both Poles and French. They received billions of Euros for compensation, no need for land-stealing and ethnic cleansings

What are you talking about? Polish communist state didn't take any money for war damage made by german nazis. Also we didn't any ethnic cleansings after WW2 because most Germans fled before the Red Army or they were thrown out by Soviets. A lot of Germans left voluntarily Silesia or Pomerania.

[Lábaru]

Not sure what are you talking about. I'm yet to meet at least 1 person who bears ill will towards Spain. Sorry to disappoint you but 99.99% of people in Europe just don't give a damn about it.

I'm Sorry to disappoint but... what the fuck is a "Meta-Ethnicity: Sarmatian"
"Ethnicity: Russian" and what are you doing in New Zealand? not answer me, I do not care, it's just that I think your opinion is worthless :)

[ficuscarica]

What are you talking about? Polish communist state didn't take any money for war damage made by german nazis. Also we didn't any ethnic cleansings after WW2 because most Germans fled before the Red Army or they were thrown out by Soviets. A lot of Germans left voluntarily Silesia or Pomerania.

East Germany paid compensations to the Soviet Union and Poland according to wiki. Also, although some Germans fled from the Russian army, some had to leave due to the ethnic cleansing initiated by the Polish government (article only in German and French: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bierut-Dekrete).

[Sarmatian]

I'm Sorry to disappoint but... what the fuck is a "Meta-Ethnicity: Sarmatian"
"Ethnicity: Russian" and what are you doing in New Zealand? not answer me, I do not care, it's just that I think your opinion is worthless :)

Me disappointed? Nah... You can get as personal as you pleased, it doesn't really bother me :p

[ficuscarica]

I am talking in general.

Economic and political aid still continues, and we are grateful for that.

I see. Please, remember this when Europe comes under islamic rule. :)

[Rereg]

East Germany paid compensations to Poland

Lie, polish communists renounced claims towards East-Germany because of "communist international friendship among soviet block"


Also, although some Germans fled from the Russian army, some had to leave due to the ethnic cleansing initiated by the Polish government (article only in German and French: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bierut-Dekrete)


It was deportation, also I wrote you that most Germans left Silesia or Pomerania voluntarily.

[Peyrol]

I don't know in other countries, but polish immigrants in Italy are probabily the most educated and polite immigrant community.

[Adrian]

I see. Please, remember this when Europe comes under islamic rule. :)

You are fully protected, don't worry. I will talk to Abdul Hafiz el Bashkuar il Ibn Salim Mahmud the Second, to leave German people quiet :coffee:

[Rereg]

I don't know in other countries, but polish immigrants in Italy are probabily the most educated and polite immigrant community.

Thanks for kind words. :thumb001:

I hope that in future Poland will not send immigrants to "western world".

[Peyrol]

Anyway, i think that this

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is probabily the most hated euro nation.

[Tel Errant]

Russia is the most disliked european nation by the international community.
We French rather like them, revolutionary people.



Both Poles and French.

What do you know about that?

[Peyrol]

Thanks for kind words. :thumb001:

I hope that in future Poland will not send immigrants to "western world".

....yes, but not for a matter of racism "poles-are-bad" or something similar, but for a matter of your country developement. :thumb001:

Remember that your nation is mentioned in our national anthem...:D

[ficuscarica]

Lie, polish communists renounced claims towards East-Germany because of "communist international friendship among soviet block"



It was deportation, also I wrote you that most Germans left Silesia or Pomerania voluntarily.

I don´t see how this contradicts my statements, it´s just the same in other words.

[Lábaru]

The people do not usually hate Germany, most people feel a blind admiration for Germany, especially the Nazi episode, I think that Russia is not hated, except for some satellite countries of the old USSR, and the hated against Albania I think is also very localized and not general, again the poll does not reflect reality.

[ficuscarica]

What do you know about that?

Saarland, Elsass/Alsace where annexed by France (although Elsass is a bit more complicated and I can accept it, as the majority of Alsatians wanted to be part of France after WWII - who would not pick the winners´ side. :D). Saarland was given back, so this ok, too. Still it´s a fact that land was stolen (but was given back later). And the French had their revenge for WWII (although, as I said, before World War II they had done enough to the Germans, too, especially their "hero" Napoleon). Countless woman in Baden where raped by North African soldiers in the French army. My grandmother was only saved from that by an officer from Elsass... The French have no right to tell the Germans how bad they are. Both were bad and just because France (or better: America, France had already lost) won the last conflict we don´t need to ignore the centuries before that. I can shake hands with everyone from France who says we both are guilty, but let´s forgive it and live in peace. But I laugh at every Frenchman who talks about evil Germany.

In other words: I like France, but let´s stay with the facts - all facts, and not just 1940-1945.

[Aramis]

Most folks on the Balkan do not share much sympathies for Brits, or the English in particular.

I do though.

[Tel Errant]

I think that Russia is not hated

Russia is the most powerfull European nation, they're the only one who can really say fuck off to the USA and have a big nuisance power since they're one of the biggest supplier of gas and petrol to Europe.

The rest of Europe is a pacific haven and seen as such.

[Tel Errant]

Both were bad [...] I can shake hands with everyone from France who says we both are guilty. But I laugh at every Frenchman who talks about evil Germany.
Every European country was bad at one moment or another, but what you did to the jews cannot be compared, sorry.

[ficuscarica]

Every European country was bad at one moment or another, by what you did to the jews cannot be compared, sorry.

It can be compared, there were other genocides by the Spanish or the Turks for example, not to mention tens of millions of people that were killed by communism or what the muslims do with Sudanese Christians nowadays.

Germany made a terrible mistake with the Jews, but if other countries would look a bit more closely at their own history, many would find similar things.

And it had nothing to do with France. If you simply compare the history between France and Germany both are guilty.

Also, many people/countries that judge Germany for the holocaust can´t wait for another holocaust to happen with the Jews in Israel.

[Albion]

Only old people who remember the war and football hooligans hate Germany here.
On the contrary,there's some sort of vogue around Germany and Russia as it happens.

I don't think people really hate other European nations very strongly here, there's just a slight distrust of anything from outside the islands. :p

[Albion]

Also, many people/countries that judge Germany for the holocaust can´t wait for another holocaust to happen with the Jews in Israel.

Indeed, the Jews keep on about the holocaust whilst committing genocide against the Palestinians. How does that fucking work? :confused:


Most folks on the Balkan do not share much sympathies for Brits, or the English in particular.

I do though.

Aw. Why's that? The NATO interference in the region? I don't think Greece should have much reason to hate us, we helped their nation and added large areas to it. Apart from a few antiquities that we saved the Greeks shouldn't have much against us (I hope).
Nobody really cares what Serbs think though, they're like the little Russians of the Balkans.

[Dilberth]

Serbia

Russia

Croatia

I don't think so

[Dilberth]

...

[Hurrem sultana]

I don't think so

too bad

[ficuscarica]

Indeed, the Jews keep on about the holocaust whilst committing genocide against the Palestinians. How does that fucking work? :confused:



You got me wrong. I was talking about people wishing for the Jews to be exterminated. I don´t consider the Jewish politics in the Near East a genocide. On the other hand probably a genocide would happen if the Arabs could do what they would like to do. Here is a video with Mossab Hassan Yousef, the son of the founder of hamas. It get´s very interesting after the first six minutes.
LN0Zb7ody_U
He converted to Christianity and fled to the US for political asylum. He claims that there would be peace in Israel if it wasn´t for islam. As I consider you an intelligent person and not a stupid fascist full of hatred, I hope that you will take the time and listen to him. I find it sad that even conservatives are tricked by muslim propaganda.

[Aramis]

too bad

As a matter of fact, no one in Europe thinks so, besides some Bosniaks and Serbs.

[dralos]

we're winning

[Olika]

how this can determine?in every nation has good and bad people.and many here are judged to the side politics.

[ficuscarica]

we're winning

They only envy Germans and Alboz because we are the only ones who can combine swarthiness with an Ubermensch appearance and thus get all the girls. :thumb001:

[Albion]

You got me wrong. I was talking about people wishing for the Jews to be exterminated. I don´t consider the Jewish politics in the Near East a genocide. On the other hand probably a genocide would happen if the Arabs could do what they would like to do. Here is a video with Mossab Hassan Yousef, the son of the founder of hamas. It get´s very interesting after the first six minutes.
LN0Zb7ody_U
He converted to Christianity and fled to the US for political asylum. He claims that there would be peace in Israel if it wasn´t for islam. As I consider you an intelligent person and not a stupid fascist full of hatred, I hope that you will take the time and listen to him. I find it sad that even conservatives are tricked by muslim propaganda.

Wiping out Jews is a bit extreme. Whilst the Palestinians are really a recent invention they are still being shunted out of their homeland by an ever expanding Israel.

Yes, I know Arabs would love to see it wiped off the face of the earth, but the Jews expanding constantly into the Palestinian zones is just provoking it even more.

As for Palestinians, the Gazans and West Bank inhabitants have nothing to do with each other.
Most of the Arab states are based around artificial borders in fact. Look at this map of Arab dialects to see just how artificial the borders are and the concept of one Palestinian people.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4647/arabicdialects.png

[Rereg]

You got me wrong. I was talking about people wishing for the Jews to be exterminated. I don´t consider the Jewish politics in the Near East a genocide. On the other hand probably a genocide would happen if the Arabs could do what they would like to do.

It's ridiculous, Arabs are native inhabitants of Palestine while Jews are only religious sect which speak about yourself "nation". Middle-East isn't good place for Israel and many religious non-zionist Jews hate this weird country.

[Hurrem sultana]

As a matter of fact, no one in Europe thinks so, besides some Bosniaks and Serbs.

well i was not speaking for Swedes or Germans

[morski]

how this can determine?in every nation has good and bad people.and many here are judged to the side politics.

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/yes-moar-of-that-biden.jpg
:thumb001:

[Aivap]

in Italy the most hated European ethnicities are Albanians are Romanians. But especially Albanians.

[dralos]

They only envy Germans and Alboz because we are the only ones who can combine swarthiness with an Ubermensch appearance and thus get all the girls. :thumb001:
yeah but threads like this just show how much we 'love' eachother:D
bro it means 15 bitchez lost their gf's to alboz:D
and 13 others to germans:D

[ficuscarica]

It's ridiculous, Arabs are native inhabitants of Palestine while Jews are only religious sect which speak about yourself "nation".

There were always Jews in "Palestine", they were called Palestinians, too. Palestine is only a geographical word which was later only adopted by the Arabs from this area to make the fight for the land easier. They never owned it as a country, it was an Ottoman province which the Ottomans lost to England and therefore England had the right to allow Jews to come and buy desert and swampland. Of course other Jews joined their people when they were persecuted in Europe. They would have Abeen happy with a much smaller state, but due to Arab violence against them a conflict developed and the UN decided what it decided.

[Aramis]

well i was not speaking for Swedes or Germans

http://pl.memgenerator.pl/mem-image/cool-story-sis-pl-ffffff/d

[Aivap]

albania is only hated by serbs,the rest doesnt hate us

Probably you have never been to Italy. It's sad, but towards Albanians exists a harsh racism, you're considered as rapists, robbers and violent murderers.

[ficuscarica]

Wiping out Jews is a bit extreme. Whilst the Palestinians are really a recent invention they are still being shunted out of their homeland by an ever expanding Israel.

Yes, I know Arabs would love to see it wiped off the face of the earth, but the Jews expanding constantly into the Palestinian zones is just provoking it even more.

As for Palestinians, the Gazans and West Bank inhabitants have nothing to do with each other.
Most of the Arab states are based around artificial borders in fact. Look at this map of Arab dialects to see just how artificial the borders are and the concept of one Palestinian people.



Yeah, the Arab states are quite artifical, the Palestine Arabs once were considered as belonging to Syriah and the rulers of Jordan are from the Arabian Peninsula. Still many Jordanians belong to the same group as so called Palestinians, therefore there actually already is a Palestinian state.

Well, of course it sucks that Israel takes land from Arabs in the West Bank. On the other hand I understand it, as the Arabs would want to do the same with the Israelis, if they only could. Also, they rejected the two state solution and declared war on Israel in 1948 in order to destroy it. LoL, now that they failed they suddendly want it. But is it really all they want? The "moderate" PLO was founded before(!) Israel had the Westbank and its emblem still shows all of Israel, so you see what they actually want and therefore I understand Israel. I believe it is still all or nothing and Palestinians most likely won´t stop when they have their state. So why should Israel give anything to them? Just think of what happened after they got Gaza.

[ficuscarica]

I have to say that I also think that many Israeli politicans want all of the land. So while I both understand both and while I see how both could make more compromises and show more real good will, I decide to side with the Israelis.
Maybe you could compare it to two children who both show bad behaviour towards one another, but as only one of them wants my destruction, too, I support the child that is rather on my side or at least more interested in human rights (at least within its own borders).

[~Nik~]

To be objective : Germany, because of the historical version of winners.

To be real : Albanians, in my country and the countries around, they are the most hated and for good reasons.

[ficuscarica]

Common guys, Russia killed like three times more people than Germany. It should have more votes. :)

[~Nik~]

Common guys, Bolsheviks killed like three times more people than Germany. It should have more votes. :)


Fixed. :)

[Albion]

I have to say that I also think that many Israeli politicans want all of the land. So while I both understand both and while I see how both could make more compromises and show more real good will, I decide to side with the Israelis.
Maybe you could compare it to two children who both show bad behaviour towards one another, but as only one of them wants my destruction, too, I support the child that is rather on my side or at least more interested in human rights (at least within its own borders).

To be honest I think Israel should have kept the Sinai. It's too small to house all the Jews, the Sinai would have been sufficient.

Europeans who dislike Jews should like the idea of a Jewish state as a dumping ground for Europe's Jews.
Israel has bad policies and sometimes uses subversive tactics to get its own way but anyone who hates Jews being in Europe and opposes a Jewish state is acting retarded.

More Jews in Israel = less Jews in Europe.

[ficuscarica]

Fixed. :)

Then you have to make "Germany" "Nazis", too. :thumb001:

[~Nik~]

Then you have to make "Germany" "Nazis", too. :thumb001:


Yes but people make parallels too easily. :)

[Drawing-slim]

in Italy the most hated European ethnicities are Albanians are Romanians. But especially Albanians. assuming is true, wich i think you're full of shit, but in any case, when was the last time in history that italy's opinions on these things mattered?!
What im saying is that allmost anything italian is out of style, outdated, ecxept food:D

[~Nik~]

assuming is true, wich i think you're full of shit, but in any case, when was the last time in history that italy's opinions on these things mattered?!
What im saying is that allmost anything italian is out of style, outdated, ecxept food:D

I think fascist Italy had done a big mistake giving you his support. Same thing for nazi Germany. But I can understand that they had need for conscripts. You guys were the worst of all SS. :D

[dralos]

I think fascist Italy had done a big mistake giving you his support. Same thing for nazi Germany. But I can understand that they had need for conscripts. You guys were the worst of all SS. :D
and still hitler considered us ubermenschen and you untermenschen:D

[delicoban33]

I don't like generalization like you racists, that's so funny to answer those questions. And i see people say " Russia ", guess they love to suck some American *ss. Great. Troll racists.

[Drawing-slim]

I think fascist Italy had done a big mistake giving you his support. Same thing for nazi Germany. But I can understand that they had need for conscripts. You guys were the worst of all SS. :D
(Regardless because i dont know much about)But this only proves that we were likable people by the powerfull countries the masters of that era globaly, each era for that matter.
Even during ottoman, even during alexander the great, even during rome, during hitler, with chines people respect albanian culture the most out of all europe, thats why every chinese over 40yrs has wached albanian movies

Only serbs and slav makedonians hate us becuase for the obvious reasons, because they were never great.

Then our relationship with the usa is great as well.

The important people like us, people with taste. Enough said:D

[Sarmatian]

Common guys, Russia killed like three times more people than Germany. It should have more votes. :)

In Russia jewish commissars were killing Russians. So its fine, its acceptable by modern political standards.

In Germany German Nazis were killing Jews. That is very very bad thing. Evil Germans :rolleyes:

[~Nik~]

and still hitler considered us ubermenschen and you untermenschen:D

Yeah, reassure yourself, but the truth is that he needed everything to maintain order in the region, and you have even suck vs dumb communists, you have been only powerful vs civilians, as always. :)

[dralos]

Yeah, reassure yourself, but the truth is that he needed everything to maintain order in the region, and you have even suck vs dumb communists, you have been only powerful vs civilians, as always. :)
doesnt this sound familair to you:D

[~Nik~]

(Regardless because i dont know much about)But this only proves that we were likable people by the powerfull countries the masters of that era globaly, each era for that matter.
Even during ottoman, even during alexander the great, even during rome, during hitler, with chines people respect albanian culture the most out of all europe, thats why every chinese over 40yrs has wached albanian movies

Only serbs and slav makedonians hate us becuase for the obvious reasons, because they were never great.

Then our relationship with the usa is great as well.

The important people like us, people with taste. Enough said:D


You are funny as hell, you know that ? While Serbs was masters of Albania, your caucasian people survived by keeping our cattle.

And for the rest, the only thing you have proven is that you are only pawns. ;)

[Rereg]

In Germany German Nazis were killing Jews.

Jews are not the only victims of german nazis.

[StonyArabia]

I'd say Serbia instead of Bosnia.

True Serbia was hated and picked by everyone. The good thing they did not bow down to NATO and continued the resistance for their homeland something one has to admire no matter what.

[~Nik~]

True Serbia was hated and picked by everyone. The good thing they did not bow down to NATO and continued the resistance for their homeland something one has to admire no matter what.


Hollywood...

[Drawing-slim]

You are funny as hell, you know that ? While Serbs was masters of Albania, your caucasian people survived by keeping our cattle.

And for the rest, the only thing you have proven is that you are only pawns. ;)You have it all wrong.
In each era i mentioned, we were likable rerpected, thats why in each one albanians held high positions.
Now you might say pawns, but our history of fighting proofs otherwise, plus the subject we talking about makes it clear that the strongest that could have wiped us out mafe us partners in instead, in someway.

You dont expect a small tribes little country like albania to qounuer the world and create a world empire do you!?

My point is, serbs were never masters, because if they were ever masters or ever wise, they would have known how to get along with us, thats the true greats of the world made us partners, serbs on the other hand saw us as a threat, superior to them, so they always tried to eliminate us.
As history proofs us

[~Nik~]

My point is, serbs were never masters, because if they were ever masters or ever wise, they would have known how to get along with us, thats the true greats of the world made us partners, serbs on the other hand saw us as a threat, superior to them, so they always tried to eliminate us.
As history proofs us

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Uroš_IV_Dušan_of_Serbia

[Peyrol]

Probably you have never been to Italy. It's sad, but towards Albanians exists a harsh racism, you're considered as rapists, robbers and violent murderers.

Not here.
Here more hated groups are moroccans, gypsies, nigerians and sometimes southern italians.

[Peyrol]

(Regardless because i dont know much about)But this only proves that we were likable people by the powerfull countries the masters of that era globaly, each era for that matter.
Even during ottoman, even during alexander the great, even during rome, during hitler, with chines people respect albanian culture the most out of all europe, thats why every chinese over 40yrs has wached albanian movies

Only serbs and slav makedonians hate us becuase for the obvious reasons, because they were never great.

Then our relationship with the usa is great as well.

The important people like us, people with taste. Enough said:D

Remember how your borders were under us...:D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Map_of_Albania_during_WWII-IT.png

[Sarmatian]

Jews are not the only victims of german nazis.

Agree. But do you hear much about Poles or Russians killed by Nazis? Nope. All the fuss about jews only.

[Drawing-slim]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Uroš_IV_Dušan_of_Serbia
This only proves my point.
You were never great, dusan had the best of some 30k albanian horsmen in his side.
Thats but you wanted to wipe us out as well, history proves us again, if serbua knew how to win hearts and minds yougoslavia would have never broken up.
History shows us that you're barking on the wrong tree, you're not born to lead an empire. Just a serb, lost and confused going nuts:D
Move on, and dont be such whiny losers

[Geminus]

We're no longer 1st place... :(
But I honestly think people no longer hate Germany so much, we were even elected to be the most beloved country in the world

http://www.welt.de/english-news/article3181485/Germany-is-the-most-beloved-country-worldwide.html


To be honest, to be the most belove country let me also wonder... :confused:

[~Nik~]

This only proves my point.
You were never great, dusan had the best of some 30k albanian horsmen in his side.
Thats but you wanted to wipe us out as well, history proves us again, if serbua knew how to win hearts and minds yougoslavia would have never broken up.
History shows us that you're barking on the wrong tree, you're not born to lead an empire. Just a serb, lost and confused going nuts:D
Move on, and dont be such whiny losers


Man, you and your original people are a fucking joke. But Westerners aren't enough aware of the historical and actual situation of the Balkans, that's why they can believe your crap stories and on the other hand they need your americano-british satellite state to maintain control on the region.

[brunette]

We're no longer 1st place... :(
But I honestly think people no longer hate Germany so much, we were even elected to be the most beloved country in the world

http://www.welt.de/english-news/article3181485/Germany-is-the-most-beloved-country-worldwide.html


To be honest, this really let me wonder... :confused:

It's not your fault, you're just one person. The goverments are the corrupt not the people. That's why it's better to have democracy.

[dralos]

Man, you and your original people are a fucking joke. But Westerners aren't enough aware of the historical and actual situation of the Balkans, that's why they can believe your crap stories and on the other hand they need your americano-british satellite state to maintain control on the region.
every small nation is going to be used,like you are russia's satelite state:thumb001:

[Raikaswinþs]

It depends:

By other Europeans: its very hard to say, since there are too many local rivalries but I guess you don't go wring with the big 6: Spain, France, Britain, Russia, Italy and Germany in no particular order. Poland sometimes gets a lot of bashing too, they're like the "fringe big number 7, the intermitent power, or the yoyo nation"

Internationally, I'd say its between Germany, Russia and Spain. Other powers such as France and Britain have always had much better PR

[~Nik~]

every small nation is going to be used,like you are russia's satelite state:thumb001:

For ignorants, that's it.

But we know very well what it means to be a good friend of USA today. :rolleyes:

Stop trying to blind these strangers, no one is fooled enough to believe your peasants stories.

[Drawing-slim]

Man, you and your original people are a fucking joke. But Westerners aren't enough aware of the historical and actual situation of the Balkans, that why they can believe your crap stories and on the other hand they need your americano-british satellite state to maintain control on the region.Same old nonsense boring stuff
You guys cant even go beyond your brainwashed little brains and actually enjoy a simple discussion, past beyond abscurity and just talk like a human and now, but like a pragramed robot, product of a very sadly depressing simplistic twisted serbian propogonda.
This is another proof you guys wil never be great.
Because you think you're dealing with infants, your cheap propoganda is an insult to every intelligent human today.

[dralos]

For ignorants, that's it.

But we know very well what it means to be a good friend of USA today. :rolleyes:

Stop trying to blind these strangers, no one is fooled enough to believe your peasants stories.
lol dude,i'm done with you,you don't seem to function well and if i continue to prove you wrong i think i may ruin you totally so i stop,have a nice day further:)

[~Nik~]

That's it, return back sucking your US academics.

If you are lucky, maybe they'll invent you a cool story.

[Arne]

There were always Jews in "Palestine", they were called Palestinians, too. Palestine is only a geographical word which was later only adopted by the Arabs from this area to make the fight for the land easier. They never owned it as a country, it was an Ottoman province which the Ottomans lost to England and therefore England had the right to allow Jews to come and buy desert and swampland. Of course other Jews joined their people when they were persecuted in Europe. They would have Abeen happy with a much smaller state, but due to Arab violence against them a conflict developed and the UN decided what it decided.

So, that means you are declaring it as a State when they violate human rights ?

[ficuscarica]

That means that there was a conflict between people in a British territory and the UN wisely chose to make two states out of that province.

[Albion]

I don't like generalization like you racists, that's so funny to answer those questions. And i see people say " Russia ", guess they love to suck some American *ss. Great. Troll racists.

Well I don't know, people who don't kiss America's arse are usually too busy kissing Russia's.
Lol, us racists. Why are you even here Delico? :coffee:

[Contra Mundum]

Sweden

[Rereg]

Sweden

:eek::confused: WTF. No, it's absurd.

[Strawberry]

Polish because of all the immigrants

[~Nik~]

:eek::confused: WTF. No, it's absurd.

Sweden is actually the most raped.

[alb0zfinest]

Wow! were liked this much? :)

[ficuscarica]

Why did Albanians get so many votes? Because most are muslims?

[dralos]

Why did Albanians get so many votes? Because most are muslims?
no bcs of the serbs,maks and croats:D

[Mordid]

Polish because of all the immigrants
Say the Armenordic. :rolleyes:

[~Nik~]

no bcs of the serbs,maks and croats:D

I have personally voted Germany to be objective, but between us, you are my favorites. :)

[Arne]

They can´t be the Germans.
Cause Serbians bought our Cars.

[~Nik~]

They can´t be the Germans.
Cause Serbians bought our Cars.

I don't hate sausage and beer, I speak for the majority of muslims here ! :D

[Arne]

I don't hate sausage and beer, I speak for the majority of muslims here ! :D

That´s nonsense and you know it.. ;)

[Hurrem sultana]

why are germans and russians so hated

[ficuscarica]

why are germans and russians so hated

Should be obvious: Nazi time and communist time.

[Hurrem sultana]

Should be obvious: Nazi time and communist time.

i don't notice it much in Bosnia and Sweden;)

[~Nik~]

That´s nonsense and you know it.. ;)


You think turkish kebabs are cheating and using pork ?! :eek:

[Arne]

why are germans and russians so hated

I understand it for russians but not for germans ..
Anyone hates me ? :coffee:

Nik ..

They can´t hate germany if they get money from us.

[Hurrem sultana]

arne are you german or icelandic?

[~Nik~]

arne are you german or icelandic?

He is an Eskimo and a self-identified Viking. :laugh:



It was stronger than me bro. :D

[Lena]

As a matter of fact, no one in Europe thinks so, besides some Bosniaks and Serbs.

It's quite interesting, isn't it? I can't even support the possibility of one whole nation to be 'hated' by anyone, much less to grow hate in my heart for a nation close to us in many aspects.

Mistrust certainly yes (Historia magistra vitae est), hate-no.

[rashka]

Should the winner be shown some pity now?

[Anthropologique]

Russians. Albanians are a close second.

[Skrondsze]

Germany - Nazi past.

[Crn Volk]

Albanians

[Archduke]

Russians or Albanians.

[Talvi]

I dont think Albanians are the most hated. For what? I am pretty sure most Europeans dont know anything about Albania and probably couldnt locate it on a map either. There are probably even people who have never heard of Albania.

[Siginulfo]

In Rimini (and I think in all parts of Italy) they hate Albanians and Romanians most, 'cause some "isolated" cases of robberies and kidnappings, as well as brawls and beatings between immigrants.

[Quorra]

The more easy going ones are more liked. The more aggressive ones less. From the poll that is.

[Drawing-slim]

We win:D
This is a clear sign of a european race on rappid decline, moraly.
A once master race of the planet degenrating..

Never in history of europe have we ever been hated by europeans. as people and our costums and culture has being admired by all educated europeans. By poets philosophers historians etc but this was during the era when europe was filled with culture and wise men, this shows how far this continent has degenarated, because albanians have changed very little, if at all:D

[Aces High]

Never in history of europe have we ever been hated by europeans.

Thats because you stayed in Albania due to poverty and the lack of modern transport methods.People had no real experience of Albanians or the pleasure of their company.
Things have changed and what we find are people who on the outside resemble Europeans in their phsyical make up but in reality are more akin to Vietnamese pirates in their modus operandi.

A group must be judged by the actions of the majority of its sum parts,and thats why Albanians are judged in a negative light by western Europeans.
Loud,uncouth,uncultered,violent,criminaly orientated are the words that spring to mind when thinking about Albanians.
There are exceptions to this but as a general rule of thumb Albanians on the whole are a miserable bunch of outcasts.

[safinator]

I 've been in much of Italy(Lived there also) and never experienced any hostility.

[Talvi]

The first thing I think of when I hear "Albania" is Harry Potter.

[Drawing-slim]

Thats because you stayed in Albania due to poverty and the lack of modern transport methods.People had no real experience of Albanians or the pleasure of their company.
Things have changed and what we find are people who on the outside resemble Europeans in their phsyical make up but in reality are more akin to Vietnamese pirates in their modus operandi.

A group must be judged by the actions of the majority of its sum parts,and thats why Albanians are judged in a negative light by western Europeans.
Loud,uncouth,uncultered,violent,criminaly orientated are the words that spring to mind when thinking about Albanians.
There are exceptions to this but as a general rule of thumb Albanians on the whole are a miserable bunch of outcasts.This is a short sighted eropean of today judging. As i said, a sign of sure decline in wisdom:p

This is just a face of criminal wave after 45 year of hars core comunism.
Even now inside albania the crminals have mostly all killed each other.

If you expect the next generation of albanians to do the same things around eruope in 20 years, i'll come here and hang myself.

When irish people left for america they didnt have the best image around east coast boston new york etc
Same with italians but the new generations of both are very well behaved now and respected now.

In late 80's in new york was a wave of albanians from malsia near
Montenegro that settled there.
At this time law in new york you couldnt kick out a renter for not having the money to pay.
So became very popular for blacks to get in and never leave.
It was these group of albanians that caught the atentionof all new york whites, "who are these white people using baseball bats" kicking and clearing all these apartments. As they all became managers or owners of these buildings.

Even in europe today, if you didnt have some albanian criminal element, those positions would be replaced by an african etc. So why not albos instead amd ne proud:D

[Aces High]

This is a short sighted eropean of today judging.

Not really,its pretty much how Albanians are seen in western Europe due to their behaviour.
Because it doesnt correspond to your view,then its not valid......which doesnt say much about the validity of my statement but does tell us something about how touchy Albanians are when judged.

[Drawing-slim]

The first thing I think of when I hear "Albania" is Harry Potter.:confused:

[Drawing-slim]

Not really,its pretty much how Albanians are seen in western Europe due to their behaviour.
Because it doesnt correspond to your view,then its not valid......which doesnt say much about the validity of my statement but does tell us something about how touchy Albanians are when judged.

Come on ace, do i look that i'm being touchy?!

I feel like i over use this (:D ) like a clown, aperantly noy enough:rolleyes:

I actually get a kick out of your insults towards us, its good humor mostly, and we are not as lame as serbs not to take a good joke:p

Besides most of your shots seem to be inspired by some
Scotish jouranlist that visited albania wich his trip was paid by serb goverment and you do better job at being funny then that lame guy.

Plus his jokes about us werent even funny, nor even close to cool.

[Talvi]

:confused:

Albania in Harry Potter:

When Rowena Ravenclaw's daughter, Helena, stole her mother's diadem, she hid it in an Albanian forest. It remained hidden for several centuries, until Tom Marvolo Riddle discovered that Helena was the Grey Lady, the House Ghost of Ravenclaw, and managed to get the information about its resting place from her. He recovered it, and turned it into one of his Horcruxes.

Following his downfall in 1981, Tom Riddle, now known as Lord Voldemort, fled to Albania in his weakened state. In 1991, he encountered Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry's Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher, Professor Quirrell, who was looking for him, so that he could at the very least try to capture him or at best learn from him. Voldemort twisted his mind and subjugated him to his will, allowing him to return to Hogwarts in Scotland.

Following his failed attempt to steal the Philosopher's Stone, Voldemort returned to Albania, where he was discovered by his former servant, Peter Pettigrew in 1994. Voldemort also broke the mind of Bertha Jorkins in Albania after she ran into Pettigrew at a wayside inn, learning of the Triwizard Tournament and setting into motion a plan to kill Harry Potter and return to full vitality.

[safinator]

Albania in Harry Potter:
I've missed this parts of the book :D

[Viljuska]

Most hated european nation.
Maybe Russians, westerners like to hate them.
Serbs are also "hated" since the 90's, especially by liberals and some of their neighbors (mostly because of media/propaganda I think).
But from common peoples experience I would think Albanians, they got themselfes a "reputation" during the last decade (the same as Somalis and Iraqis) in many European countries.

[Viljuska]

Never in history of europe have we ever been hated by europeans.They didn't know so much about you before.

[juizdelinha]

I like Russia, Dostoievsky, Tolstoi, Turguenev, Pushkin, Lermontov... are good enough reasons for me to like them. Their literarute is epic.
Plus they have a strong sense of patriotism that is lost among most european nations (including my own)

[Talvi]

I like Russia, Dostoievsky, Tolstoi, Turguenev, Pushkin, Lermontov... are good enough reasons for me to like them. Their literarute is epic.
Plus they have a strong sense of patriotism that is lost among most european nations (including my own)


They also have a strong sense of destroying everybody else. And no writer is more important than the lives of millions.

[juizdelinha]

They also have a strong sense of destroying everybody else. And no writer is more important than the lives of millions.

Those millions of lives mean nothing to me and my life, wars exist, people die, that's the way it is.
Many powerful countries one time or another in their history destroyed millions of lives under the regime of some fascist/dictator , that's not enough reason for me hate the people of such countries.

But many Russian individuals, writers mainly, altered the way I see the world, and made me an intellectually richer person, so I sympathize with the country.

It's a selfish way of seeing thinks, but its legit nonetheless.

[Aces High]

I actually get a kick out of your insults towards us,

Im not insulting you,its just this is how i see Albanians percieved in western Europe.....this is how they act.
You may think im making a streotypical sweeping judgement of Albanians based on what i have read but its not true.
If you look at the Albanians in London for example they are a fucking joke,brandishing AK47's and cheap gold jewellry and driving about in overlarge mercedes cars that have 400'000 miles on the clock........they do themselves and fellow Albanians no favours yet they seem to be the majority so you cant complain when people judge you by what they see.

I know another Albanian here in Italy who is the opposite,he was a member of the diplomatic community,he was put up agaisnt a wall and nearly shot in Tirana but his wife somehow managed to save him.
He was granted political asylum in Italy and lives here and works etc.
He is a different fish though from the average Albanian you see here though and he is the first to critisize his fellow countrymen for their behaviour.
Last week i think there was some sort of shoot out between rival Albanian gangs in Padova i think it was,for the control of some prostituttion rights or some other banal scenario.......a shoot out in some parking lot with AK47,s...so you know its normal that when people hear about this they judge Albanians as a whole in a negative light......and this goes on all over Europe.

Heres what the Albanians are like in London........ridiculous.

Vw6H3hw3ptQ

[Talvi]

Those millions of lives mean nothing to me and my life, wars exist, people die, that's the way it is.
Many powerful countries one time or another in their history destroyed millions of lives under the regime of some fascist/dictator , that's not enough reason for me hate the people of such countries.

But many Russian individuals, writers mainly, altered the way I see the world, and made me an intellectually richer person, so I sympathize with the country.

It's a selfish way of seeing thinks, but its legit nonetheless.

Then why is "European ethnic and cultural preservation " important to you? If it is at all? If some black people were killing whites in large numbers you would get extremely irritated, but when other whites destroy and genoside other whites is it ok?

And Russians being total assholes and trying to destroy indigenous cultures is not a thing of the past either. Hence why they are the biggest scum in Europe.

[Drawing-slim]

They didn't know so much about you before.can anything in this world be anymore predictable and boring then a typical serb or south slav talking shit about albanians:coffee:

[dralos]

Im not insulting you,its just this is how i see Albanians percieved in western Europe.....this is how they act.
You may think im making a streotypical sweeping judgement of Albanians b

Vw6H3hw3ptQ
dude they're still young if you want i can show you plenty of 'responsible' englishmen
here is an example and keep in mind that both they and the albanians are rappers so they must look tough

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[dralos]

atleast our is only with other europeans,yours mix with blacks as you can see on the video

[Aces High]

dude they're still young

Is that supposed to be some sort of excuse....or is there a phase where its ok to go through "brain dead gang banger streetwise gangsta" persona...?

Im not denying that there are scumbags in the English community,but i am answering someone who wants to know why Albanians are hated in Western Europe.
They are hated for their criminal activities and lack of respect towards their hosts......and they cast a shadow over their law abiding countrymen.
The reason people in western Europe dont like Albanians is because Albanian = criminal.

[Drawing-slim]

Im not insulting you,its just this is how i see Albanians percieved in western Europe.....this is how they act.
You may think im making a streotypical sweeping judgement of Albanians based on what i have read but its not true.
If you look at the Albanians in London for example they are a fucking joke,brandishing AK47's and cheap gold jewellry and driving about in overlarge mercedes cars that have 400'000 miles on the clock........they do themselves and fellow Albanians no favours yet they seem to be the majority so you cant complain when people judge you by what they see.

I know another Albanian here in Italy who is the opposite,he was member of the diplomatic community,he was put up agaisnt a wall and nearly shot in Tirana but his wife somehow managed to save him.
He was granted political asylum in Italy and lives here and works etc.
He is a different fish though from the average Albanian you see here though
and he is the first to critisize his fellow countrymen for their behaviour.
Last week i think there was some sort of shoot out between rival Albanian gangs in Padova i think it was,for the control of some prostituttion rights or some other banal scenario.......a shoot out in some parking lot with AK47,s...so you know its normal that when people hear about this they judge Albanians
as a whole in a negative light......and this goes on all over Europe.

Heres what the Albanians are like in London........ridiculous.

Vw6H3hw3ptQi cant see the video without a link but it doesnt matter..

You bring up some good points.
Actually inside our sescioty/cutlure, no other nation or ethnicity in the world is more self criticall towards ourselfs then albanians.
And if you only read albanain press you would think half of albanian journalists and intellectualls are serbs or greeks or simply traitors.
This is a clear demostration of a western mentality, individual free thinkers. The albanian you know in italy is just one of millions...

Something you canot say about other balkan nations..

As far some criminal element you bringing up, i told you is just a wave of a post comunist era etc..

On the big picture, all this sterotype and bad rep from some criminal albanian element in europe and ever exegerated cheap shots by serb
propoganda and the haters, it doesn't bother me for one second.

As your churchill said it best: its exhilarating being shot it, with no results:D

[dralos]

Is that supposed to be some sort of excuse....or is there a phase where its ok to go through "brain dead gang banger streetwise gangsta" persona...?

Im not denying that there are scumbags in the English community,but i am answering someone who wants to know why Albanians are hated in Western Europe.
They are hated for their criminal activities and lack of respect towards their hosts......and they cast a shadow over their law abiding countrymen.
The reason people in western Europe dont like Albanians is because Albanian = criminal.
lol this is really not true bcs most europeans dont even know who albanians are,let alone have an opinion about us.but we're well known on forums bcs of serbian propaganda lol:D

[Aces High]

lol this is really not true bcs most europeans dont even know who albanians are,let alone have an opinion about us.

But they do,and what they hear and see is not good,its no use blaming Albanian behaviour on Serbs.
Are there roving gangs of Serbs masquerading as Albanians in Europe involved in drug smuggling and prostituttion and organ trafficking.....and having shoot outs in public places..?
Maybe you could produce some evidence of this to back up your claims.

[dralos]

But they do,and what they hear and see is not good,its no use blaming Albanian behaviour on Serbs.
Are there roving gangs of Serbs masquerading as Albanians in Europe involved in drug smuggling and prostituttion and organ trafficking.....and having shoot outs in public places..?
Maybe you could produce some evidence of this to back up your claims.
yes they are,that's a typical serbian propaganda:D
serb killed his rivak and ate him up
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119103/Serbian-gangsters-killed-rival-ate-disposed-body-using-MEAT-GRINDER-dumping-remains-river.htm

serbian drugbosses
http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/whistle-blower-links-serbian-drug-lords-sa-gangs-1.1213613

serbs robbing bank in sweden
http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Hronika/112370/Organizator-pljacke--u-Svedskoj-iz-Srbije

[ricko0812]

:thumb001:i have to chime in and say that i hate canada, they think their the greatest thing since sliced bread with their universal healthcare and more personal freedoms and such. haha:D this is for my canadian friend

[~Nik~]

yes they are,that's a typical serbian propaganda:D


Yeah, an propaganda made by a very strong serbian mafia lobby known to all. :rolleyes:

http://ceeuropeaninfo.blogspot.fr/2011/02/evidence-of-kosovo-organ-trafficking.html

Also,don't forget your brothers abroad :http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=852704

[Guapo]

no surprise that the most hated european nation is actually non-European :lol:

[arcticwolf]

no surprise that the most hated european nation is actually non-European :lol:

Bro you are Polish now? Well I'm pan-slavic at heart so really it makes no difference we're the same anyhow ;)

[Crn Volk]

no surprise that the most hated european nation is actually non-European :lol:

I guess it depends on whether the Caucausus are considered European :wink

[Guapo]

can anything in this world be anymore predictable and boring then a typical albanian goat herder like me talking shit about the mighty Serbs :coffee:

fixed

[iNird]

Im not insulting you,its just this is how i see Albanians percieved in western Europe.....this is how they act.
You may think im making a streotypical sweeping judgement of Albanians based on what i have read but its not true.
If you look at the Albanians in London for example they are a fucking joke,brandishing AK47's and cheap gold jewellry and driving about in overlarge mercedes cars that have 400'000 miles on the clock........they do themselves and fellow Albanians no favours yet they seem to be the majority so you cant complain when people judge you by what they see.

I know another Albanian here in Italy who is the opposite,he was a member of the diplomatic community,he was put up agaisnt a wall and nearly shot in Tirana but his wife somehow managed to save him.
He was granted political asylum in Italy and lives here and works etc.
He is a different fish though from the average Albanian you see here though and he is the first to critisize his fellow countrymen for their behaviour.
Last week i think there was some sort of shoot out between rival Albanian gangs in Padova i think it was,for the control of some prostituttion rights or some other banal scenario.......a shoot out in some parking lot with AK47,s...so you know its normal that when people hear about this they judge Albanians as a whole in a negative light......and this goes on all over Europe.

Heres what the Albanians are like in London........ridiculous.

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LOL I didn't see one female in any of their pictures. I wonder why lol.

And you can find such wigger like videos from all parts of the world.

Now there is some truth in jewerly and benzs.

:D