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Beorn
05-28-2009, 09:42 PM
Fathers of daughters become more left-wing, academics claim

Economists claim to have found a correlation between the number of daughters and sons in a household and their father's political views.
By analysing data in the British Household Panel Survey, they found that 67 per cent of parents with three sons and no daughters voted for Labour or the Liberal Democrats.

This rose to 77 per cent in households with three daughters and no sons. A similar pattern was found among families with two and four children.
Professor Andrew Oswald, from Warwick University, and Dr Nattavudh Powdthavee, of York University, wrote in an unpublished article that has been submitted to an economics journal: "This paper provides evidence that daughters make people more Left-wing, while having sons, by contrast, makes them more Right-wing."
Professor Oswald said that having daughters made men "gradually shift their political stance and become more sympathetic to the 'female' desire for a ... larger amount for the public good".
"They become more Left-wing. Similarly, a mother with sons becomes sympathetic to the 'male' case for lower taxes and a smaller supply of public goods," he said.
"Political feelings are much less independently chosen than people realise. Children mould their parents."
Researchers who looked at voting records of US congressmen before and after having children have found a similar pattern, with the arrival of daughters having a particularly strong effect on fathers.
However Arthur Mayne, a biologist with three sons, dismissed the approach as "simplistic" and said the idea that women were "more likely to be softer politically than men" could be seen as a stereotype.
"Recent studies seem to prove that women with higher levels of testosterone – who are more likely to display dominant, positive behaviours – seem to produce more sons than daughters," he said.
"Women with lower levels of testosterone, who are more likely to be empathetic and better listeners, tend to produce more daughters.
"It could be that the women who are most likely to produce daughters pick a partner who is closer to her more empathetic attitude to life.
"Hence people who are already more liberal may produce more daughters and those who are already conservative may produce more sons."


Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/5377826/Fathers-of-daughters-become-more-left-wing-academics-claim.html)


I also found this link (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:VYyHsuCR6ycJ:www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/faculty/oswald/daughtersrestat08.pdf+fathers+more+liberal&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk) as I was Googling for the article which I thought relevant.

sturmwalkure
05-28-2009, 09:46 PM
Doesn't hold true for Filip Dewinter, who is rather far right-wing. He has three daughters and he's no leftist. :D

The Lawspeaker
05-28-2009, 09:48 PM
Well I guess that I would have daughters in this country that I would vote far right because I would be concerned about those muzzies could do to my daughters lol

Here's another study that can be thrown into the dustbin..

Tabiti
05-28-2009, 09:50 PM
My father would be anything but always the opposite of me :D

Vulpix
05-28-2009, 09:51 PM
What about the poor devils with one son and one daughter ;)?
Hogwash I say.

Tabiti
05-28-2009, 09:52 PM
What about the poor devils with one son and one daughter ;)?
Hogwash I say.
Centrists :D

sturmwalkure
05-28-2009, 09:53 PM
It also doesn't hold true for Jörg Haider (R.I.P.) He had two daughters and he he was called the next Hitler etc. I agree with Foxie, it's hogwash since there's a few I can name as exceptions to this. :D

Tabiti
05-28-2009, 10:04 PM
Such "deep scientific researches" are only money and brain resource eaters to throw dust in the eyes of the ordinary people there are many "scientific jobs" out there

Groenewolf
05-30-2009, 04:41 AM
I doubt this research. Fathers are usualy more protective for daughters and would probaly be more likely to vote right-wing parties with a strong law and order stance.

Turkey
09-03-2011, 05:05 AM
That happened to my father!!!!! My sisters and mother wore him down! exraordinary.

SwordoftheVistula
09-03-2011, 08:39 AM
The 2nd explanation by Mayne seems more likely.

Also, the study seems flawed, when support for left parties ranged between 67% and 77%, but the election was actually won by the Conservatives. This, when we know that parents with children are more likely to vote right wing, all other factors being equal.

Ouistreham
09-03-2011, 09:11 AM
Doesn't hold true for Filip Dewinter, who is rather far right-wing. He has three daughters and he's no leftist. :D
Filip Dewinter has somewhat evolved, he much more supports the preservation of Israel than of his own people.


It also doesn't hold true for Jörg Haider (R.I.P.) He had two daughters and he he was called the next Hitler etc.
Jean-Marie LE PEN also has three daughters and no son.

http://www.francesoir.fr/sites/default/files/dynimagecache/0/3186/2265/259-0-3186-2265-494-351/sipa_sipausa30050534_000001.jpg

Le Pen, Dewinter and Strache share a commonality though: their talent to appeal leftist voters and make them switch to far right.

Thus fathers of daughters seem actually to have a somewhat left wing dimension.

Transmontano
10-04-2011, 06:56 AM
If that's true then it sounds like these daddies are pussy-whipped by their little girls.

Turkey
10-04-2011, 08:08 AM
If that's true then it sounds like these daddies are pussy-whipped by their little girls.

It's impossible for them not to be

Sahson
10-04-2011, 08:10 AM
It's impossible for them not to be

can you elaborate. I kind of know where you're coming from.

Curtis24
10-04-2011, 08:26 AM
Satoshi Kanazawa, in his book "Why Beautiful people have more daughters", explained that men who are more feminine tend to have more daughters than sons. It could simply be that liberal men, on average, have more daughters; rather than having a daughter makes you more liberal.

Turkey
10-04-2011, 08:40 AM
can you elaborate. I kind of know where you're coming from.

I think that every father has to keep his daughters pleased. They can do.... terrible things. So you need them on side so that when the big issues come up. You can have sway. If it's your son you just scream him down, provided there's nothing to hit him with at hand. just joking. But you know what I mean.

Maybe these fathers are being influenced by their daughters. If you go along with something long enough you kind of end up believing it yourself.

(that's assuming, that is, that girls are more likely to be lefties than boys. I suppose they are)

So in trying to keep influence over their daughters, they end up influenced by their daughters. It happens to everyone.

Except those fathers that aren't on good terms with their daughters. Imagine that though. It would be terrible.
:)