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Petros Houhoulis
05-07-2012, 06:58 PM
A lot of folks here are protesting the death of amny of their compatriots, and they blame the Albanians for that feat.

So, what do you people really want? Justice?

Haven't I told you that your most beloved Grucho has granted them a licence to kill... your species?

http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/press-releases/amnesty-international-calls-on-macedonian-authorities-to-deliver-justice-to-victims-of-war-crimes


(Washington, D.C.) - Amnesty International is calling on the Macedonian authorities to reverse immediately a parliamentary decision which will have the effect of denying justice, truth and reparation to victims of the 2001 armed conflict in the former Yugoslav Republic.

The parliament of the republic decided on July 19, 2011, to apply the 2002 Amnesty Law to all cases returned to Macedonia for prosecution from the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY).

The decision will terminate the investigation and prosecution of four war crime cases, "NLA leadership," "Mavrovo Road Workers," "Lipkovo Water Reserve" and "Neprošteno," returned to Macedonia for prosecution in 2008.


This happened during the last time that Grucho wanted the votes of the Albanians in order to govern the country (along with other conscessions) and you can expect it to be repeated the next time that Grucho plans to ask the help of the Albanians in order to rule the country.

It cannot be otherwise since you compose >65% of the population in your own country... Unless if your two major parties agree to govern together, something which has been proven impossible so far.

Personally, I cannot say that I am surprised. Actually it reminds me of something:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italianization_of_South_Tyrol

The Italian state were pressing the Austrian minority in their country to become Italians. The Germans were furious. Well, almost:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_South_Tyrol#German-Italian_option_agreement


Adolf Hitler never claimed any part of the Southern Tyrol for his Third Reich, even before the alliance with Benito Mussolini;[14] in fact in Mein Kampf (1924) he claimed that Germans were just a small and irrelevant minority in Southern Tyrol (this definition including also Trentino) and he acknowledged the German portion of Southern Tyrol as a permanent possession of Italy.

In 1939, both dictators agreed to give the German-speaking population a choice (the South Tyrol Option Agreement): they could emigrate to neighbouring Germany (including annexed Austria) or stay in Italy and accept their complete Italianisation.

The South Tyrolean population was deeply divided. Those who wanted to stay (Dableiber) were condemned as traitors; those who left (Optanten), the majority, were defamed as Nazis. There was a plan to relocate the "Optanten" in Crimea (annexed to Greater Germany), but most were meanwhile resettled in German-annexed Western Poland, (where they were expelled or killed after the war). Because of the outbreak of World War II, this agreement was only partially carried out.

In 1939 Mussolini decided to build an Alpine Wall, a military fortification to defend Italy's northern land border.


http://books.google.gr/books?id=nJzoYxjj8GAC&pg=RA1-PA15&lpg=RA1-PA15&dq=hitler+south+tyrol&source=bl&ots=AlEqHox2mB&sig=1k4s-0aTcZn_UhZprdIRFH9epFA&hl=el&sa=X&ei=VwmoT4zaL43FswbUnJiOBQ&ved=0CGUQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=hitler%20south%20tyrol&f=false


One foreign policy issue which figured occasionally in the VB in the latter half of the 1920's was Hitlers' willingness to 'sacrifice' the South Tyrol, a decision he had made before the Munich Putsch and one which he restated in the second volume of Mein Kampf written in late 1925. Although this ran counter to Hitler's Pan-German policy, he was prepared to give up 'German-Austrian' claims to the South Tyrol in order to make the Anschluß with Austria more acceptable to Italy, as well as to remove a potential obstacle to a future alliance between a NAZI Germany and a Fascist Italy. Hitlers' policy on the South Tyrol more often than not placed him on the defensive, for his stance was subjected to criticism and accusations from both the Right and Left.

Hitler was actually the only leader of a political party in Weimar Republic who sacrificed the South Tyroleans. All other German parties were against this sacrifice. Nevertheless, why was Hitler was so much willing to sacrifice people? (as the whole world would notice a couple of decades after the sacrifice of the South Tyroleans)

Well, something was more important to Hitler:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_architecture


Nazi architecture was an architectural plan which played a role in the Nazi party's plans to create a cultural and spiritual rebirth in Germany as part of the Third Reich.

...He also ordered construction of a type of Altar of Victory, borrowed from the Greeks, who were, according to Nazi ideology, inseminated with the seed of the Aryan peoples. At the same time, because of his admiration for the Classical cultures of the ancient Mediterranean, he could not isolate and politicize German antiquity, as Benito Mussolini had done with respect to Roman antiquity. Therefore he had to import political symbols into Germany and justify their presence on the grounds of a spurious racial ancestry, the myth that ancient Greeks were among the ancestors of the Germans - linked to the same Aryan peoples.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_architecture#Cult_of_victory


Both the Nazis and the Romans employed architecture of colossal dimensions to overawe and intimidate. Both cultures were preoccupied with architectural monuments that celebrated or glorified a victory ideology: triumphal arches (the largest in the world would be built on Berlin's north-south axis), columns, trophies, and a cult of pageantry associated with the subjugation of others. As Albert Speer remarked, when it was safe to do so: "The Romans built arches of triumph to celebrate the big victories won by the Roman Empire, while Hitler built them to celebrate victories he had not yet won".[7]

...This was to be yet another cult centre to promote the regime's glorification of war, patriotic self-sacrifice and virtutes militares. The main architectural features of this building were overtly Roman.[8]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_architecture#Berlin.27s_reshaping


Hitler's comments in (Mein Kampf 1.10) indicated that he saw buildings such as the Colosseum and the Circus Maximus as symbols of the political might and power of the Roman people. Hitler stated, "Architecture is not only the spoken word in stone, but also is the expression of the faith and conviction of a community, or else it signifies the power, greatness and fame of a great man or ruler". In Hitler's cultural address, "The Buildings of the Third Reich," delivered in September 1937, in Nuremberg, he affirmed that the new buildings of the Reich were to reinforce the authority of the Nazi party and the state and at the same time provide "gigantic evidence of the community" (Gr. gigantischen Zeugen unserer Gemeinschaft). The architectural evidence of this authority could already be seen in Nuremberg, Munich and Berlin and would become still more evident when more plans had been put into effect.


Evidently, the colossal buildings were truly important for Hitler. Humans? Apparently they were nothing more than a nuisance, and expedient for sacrifice...

Grucho is no Hitler. He is Hitlers' comic relief. He boasts of no army and barely a nation, but he is stepping in the path of Hitler the very moment he erects gigantic buildings and statues with a clearly militant nature (what does a warrior on a horse do? Apparently he fights a war) when the hospitals and all sorts of meaningful infrastructure remain neglected and the people keep getting sacrificed for the overall good of the society!!!

Folks, stop complaining about those measly humans and keep chasing the glory. The world has understood your mentality all too well. I wonder who shall be playing the role of Albert Speer in the future while writing in his memoirs that "The Romans built arches of triumph to celebrate the big victories won by the Roman Empire, while Grucho built them to celebrate victories he had not yet won".

One thing we cannot accuse Grucho of is of honoring his recent past though. We we all know the terrorist organization VMRO that has lent its' name to his party was an ally of Fascist Italy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMRO#Interwar_period


IMRO had de facto full control of Pirin Macedonia (the Petrich District of the time) and acted as a "state within a state", which it used as a base for hit and run attacks against Yugoslavia with the unofficial support of the right-wing Bulgarian government and later Fascist Italy. Because of this, contemporary observers described the Yugoslav-Bulgarian frontier as the most fortified in Europe.[31]

Keeping up with the ruins legacy that made Hitler and Mussolini proud, as well as the sacrifices, fits Grucho very well in the legacy of fascism. The real question is where does it fit you...

Crn Volk
05-10-2012, 05:02 AM
This post seems like something from a diary of a mad man.
I know you have absolute hatred for my country and people, but you really need to get a life or concentrate more on Greece. You have just voted in a collection of communists and fascists, and you dare to call our politicians fascists. They are not the ones saluting Nazi style. Your country is on the brink of being thrown out of the EU and Eurozone and you have the nerve to spew this rubbish about Macedonia.

I ask the administrators to delete this useless troll thread.

Petros Houhoulis
05-13-2012, 07:45 PM
This post seems like something from a diary of a mad man.
I know you have absolute hatred for my country and people, but you really need to get a life or concentrate more on Greece. You have just voted in a collection of communists and fascists, and you dare to call our politicians fascists. They are not the ones saluting Nazi style. Your country is on the brink of being thrown out of the EU and Eurozone and you have the nerve to spew this rubbish about Macedonia.

I ask the administrators to delete this useless troll thread.

Why don't you try to do so?

My post is full of facts, not just opinions...

...You have no facts to oppose my post, how are you going to convince the administrators to delete it?