Will France Really Be A Muslim Country?

[Elveon]

The initial question, dated April 11, 2009, comes from ShamsTabrizi, from Somalia:

- Salam. In a city of 22 thousand inhabitants a few miles from Paris, more than 6 thousand persons participated in the Friday prayer at 2:00 p.m., including a significant number of converted Frenchmen and Frenchwomen. At the end of the prayer, seeing these people, I began to wonder in how many years France will be a mostly Muslim country...

Article (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3940)

[Thorum]

Here is a related story (http://thelambethwalk.blogspot.com/2009/06/fears-for-france.html) from my comrade at the Lambeth Walk (http://thelambethwalk.blogspot.com/). He speaks of the Islamization of France and the effect the re-election of Sarkozy will have on France.

"Recently, Sarkozy called the Islamisation of France inevitable. He says that it is natural that churches will be converted into mosques, and that the country will start to align itself more closely with the Muslim world in matters of foreign policy."

Can we all say merde at the same time?

[Gooding]

Mais non!! I truly hope that the LePens of the country are allowed to rescue it before this genocide of the French people comes to pass!!:mad::mad::mad:

[Atlas]

http://z.about.com/d/middleeast/1/0/6/1/-/-/0720-niqab-france.jpg

France sucks. I'm out of here.:rolleyes:

[Brännvin]

France will be more a multiracial country than today, unfortunately, something sinister such as Brazil but I do not think that the Islam will be the dominant religion, no way, their political system is based upon liberalism and secular law.

[Cato]

In Mein Kampf, Hitler predicted the multiracial catastrophe that is present-day France. As odd as it sounds to say it, Hitler was right on the money. Either the French wake up and smell the coffee or the victory of Charles Martel will have been in vain.

[Thorum]

In Mein Kampf, ...the victory of Charles Martel will have been in vain.

Well said!! :thumbs up

[Loki]

France will be more a multiracial country than today, unfortunately, something sinister such as Brazil but I do not think that the Islam will be the dominant religion, no way, their political system is based upon liberalism and secular law.

Brazil will be a better place to live in than France in 10 years -- at least the dominating culture there is Christianity.

[Cato]

Mein Kampf was, overall, a rambling and horridly arrogant book but Hitler did raise some pretty impressive and salient points. First among them is the erosion of western nations from within (in the form of cultural and moral decay) and from without (the invasion of western nations by foreign immigration).

France is as glaring an example as the UK- my ancestry is English mostly, but I've got some ancestry from Normandy and even down around Paris and the Seine river area. I'm a bit distressed when I see these ancestral lands of mine being overrun with foreigners- most of whom are just normal, everyday people to be sure, but let them be normal, everyday people in their own lands and let them work to uplift their own countries.

[Æmeric]

I get really annoyed at politicians like Clinton & Sarkozy who make pronouncements about the demographic future of their respective countries as if the debate & battle are over. "We won, now shoutup & get use to it!"


In Mein Kampf, Hitler predicted the multiracial catastrophe that is present-day France. As odd as it sounds to say it, Hitler was right on the money. Either the French wake up and smell the coffee or the victory of Charles Martel will have been in vain. Hitler was a little off. I think he predicted France would be a mulatto country within 300-years (from the 1920s) it seems to have taken just 100.

[Brännvin]

Brazil will be a better place to live in than France in 10 years -- at least the dominating culture there is Christianity.

Well, the Brazil is considered to be an extremely violent country to live, but you must not fail to remember that many sub-saharan African, and afro-caribeans immigrants in France are christians or culturally christians.

I think that point out the Islam is just a big mistake, the problem in general is the presence of alien ethnicities compared to native French stock, point out just the Islam is only sell the real issue.

[Cato]

Hitler was a little off. I think he predicted France would be a mulatto country within 300-years (from the 1920s) it seems to have taken just 100.

I believe that was it, yes, but he didn't factor in such things as the modern west's willingness to kill itself and the influence of the thinly-disguised communist/globalist politicians.

[Loki]

Well, the Brazil is considered to be an extremely violent country to live


Only really in big cities like Sao Paulo and Rio, methinks.



I think that point out the Islam is just a big mistake, the problem in general is the presence of alien ethnicities compared to native French stock, point out just the Islam is only sell the real issue.

It's a means to an end. Focusing on Islam is the only really "allowable" way of pointing out the non-desirablility of multiculturalism, and - in effect - multiracialism. Lobby against non-French on a racial platform and see how far you get ... same goes for England, Netherlands, etc. The anti-Islam campaigns are merely tools to make people more culturally (and by proxy, racially) aware.

[Bloodeagle]

Mais non!! I truly hope that the LePens of the country are allowed to rescue it before this genocide of the French people comes to pass!!:mad::mad::mad:

Something tells me that when enough native French peoples start to feel helpless, their will be a genocide of Muslims!
I have no doubt in the honor, intestinal fortitude and genetic structure of our brothers and sisters in France.
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Enough said! :cool:

[Elveon]

http://z.about.com/d/middleeast/1/0/6/1/-/-/0720-niqab-france.jpg

France sucks. I'm out of here.:rolleyes:

NO! I'm not agree...Paris sucks OK, Jacobins sucks OK! But NOT the French people; in France there is the following and interesting peoples:

Bretons, Flemish, Briard, Picard, Basque, Vendéens, Normands,Alsatians ect ect ect, who are white and fighting for their cultural and ethnic identity; did you ever heard of the Identitarian Movement? I think you didn't; as a foreigner, you think that France is responsible for ALL THE PROBLEMS OF THE WHITE RACE IN THE WORLD!

I am tired of reading these kind posts, Scandinavians and others, who think that the negro-Arabic-islamic invasion will stop at their borders, it's a pure nonsense:Because Islam is a conquering and expansionist religion and in a near future, dear France haters, YOUR TURN WILL COME! Just because some persons did not understand that our salvation is unity of ALL WHITE PEOPLES regardless of their geographical location.

And finally, and when I see an admin says thank you for your post (I said thank you to your post, but not for the same reason), I think it is very serious and therefore, I leave the forum!

Goodbye Farewell! French haters:mad:

Luka Schroeder

[Loki]

And finally, and when I see an admin says thank you for your post (I said thank you to your post, but not for the same reason), I think it is very serious and therefore, I leave the forum!


Hi Luka :)

The reason I thanked that post from Dronckaert, is because I sympathise with his frustration. I am not a French hater! And I am sure most people on this forum aren't either. We wish France the best. I certainly do! I hope the French people will overcome the problems which we all face. And fact of the matter is, it is not only France which is in this dilemma. England, Netherlands, Sweden ... maybe to a different degree, but it's the same problem with the same result. Let's stand together Luka, I agree with you. And don't leave. :)

[Atlas]

Luka I think you misunderstood, my posting was satire, and at the same time serious... frustration indeed... let's see there are more and more muslim women in hidjab, burkha in this country... but don't believe the situation in England or Norway, Sweden is any better, maybe less worse than France actually is, but I agree with you, their turn unfortunately will come.

If you were a bit taken aback by my post, nevermind it, I don't plan on living in France much longer, if it goes to hell, that's not being coward but racially aware. If there's no hope rather leave and why not take the land back with the help of other white countries. This is science-fiction for now. But be realistic. Before I leave the country. I may move to a less invaded French region. We will see.

Leaving the forum over something like that would be silly. I haven't read French hate in this thread, neither on the forum, beside some outdated French military jokes. You are the only French poster posting regulary beside me. That adds an interesting point of view for the non-French here I am sure.

[Hypathia]

Hi Brothers ans Sisters:)

I think Luka won't leave The Apricity cuz he loves this forum and its members...He is just disappointed because the National Front is almost dead in France. He fought all his life for European preservation and today our country is invaded, France is already spiritually dead, soon ethnically. I told him he works too much, too hard and he has too much pressure because of that; he do not want to be a "troll", but I often read too, some anti-french posts on differents websites (not on The Apricity...) where he registered or not; the french do this, the french do that, global warming is due to the french, the french do not wash themselves and other negative stereotypes. Today, I explained to him Dronckaert's post wasn't:) he told me that his (Luka's) reaction was "excessive" and just needs to calm down himself; He replied that I was right; we all need holidays I think.

That's it!

FFF regards
Hypathia

[Cato]

The French people need to re-embrace their history and their culture, much as people of European ancestry are, bit by bit, doing and have been doing for two or three decades. The idea that France is lost as long as a single true Frenchman lives is preposterous- Muslim hordes be damned.

[The Lawspeaker]

They way in which it should be dealth with is described in your own anthem. Just listen to it yourself.

Aux armes, citoyens !

4K1q9Ntcr5g

Arise children of the fatherland
The day of glory has arrived
Against us tyranny's
Bloody standard is raised
Listen to the sound in the fields
The howling of these fearsome soldiers
They are coming into our midst
To cut the throats of your sons and consorts


To arms citizens Form your battalions
March, march
Let impure blood
Water our furrows

What do they want this horde of slaves
Of traitors and conspiratorial kings?
For whom these vile chains
These long-prepared irons?
Frenchmen, for us, ah! What outrage
What methods must be taken?
It is us they dare plan
To return to the old slavery!


What! These foreign cohorts!
They would make laws in our courts!
What! These mercenary phalanxes
Would cut down our warrior sons
Good Lord! By chained hands
Our brow would yield under the yoke
The vile despots would have themselves be
The masters of destiny


Tremble, tyrants and traitors
The shame of all good men
Tremble! Your parricidal schemes
Will receive their just reward
Against you we are all soldiers
If they fall, our young heros
France will bear new ones
Ready to join the fight against you


Frenchmen, as magnanimous warriors
Bear or hold back your blows
Spare these sad victims
That they regret taking up arms against us
But not these bloody despots
These accomplices of Bouillé
All these tigers who pitilessly
Ripped out their mothers' wombs


We too shall enlist (http://www.marseillaise.org/english/carriere.html)
When our elders' time has come
To add to the list of deeds
Inscribed upon their tombs
We are much less jealous of surviving them
Than of sharing their coffins
We shall have the sublime pride
Of avenging or joining them


Drive on sacred patriotism
Support our avenging arms
Liberty, cherished liberty
Join the struggle with your defenders
Under our flags, let victory
Hurry to your manly tone
So that in death your enemies
See your triumph and our glory!

[Brännvin]

Only really in big cities like Sao Paulo and Rio, methinks.

Well, I've heard that Brazil is one of the world's most violent countries, comparable to some countries in conflict, not to mention the reputation of multiracial hellhole..




It's a means to an end. Focusing on Islam is the only really "allowable" way of pointing out the non-desirablility of multiculturalism, and - in effect - multiracialism. Lobby against non-French on a racial platform and see how far you get ... same goes for England, Netherlands, etc. The anti-Islam campaigns are merely tools to make people more culturally (and by proxy, racially) aware.

You are correct, although I already gave my opinion on it here (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52313&postcount=20). Criticizing the Islam is the only way to be accepted by the current establishment system to alert on the problem of multiculturalism, but then it starts an another problem, the very same system could argue that the whole Muslim population needs to be secularized, and if that really happens there will be no return. IMO when pointing out the real ethnic problem is the best way to deal with the reality.

I see this problem in my country where the main far right nationalist party, SD, in 2006 abandoned the traditional ethnic slogan Bevara Sverige Svenskt ("Keep Sweden Swedish") for an anti-Islamic rhetoric that will not go anywhere, the result was that many members left the party for the ND and Folkefronten, who see the ethnic problem openly (the presence of non-Swedish and non-Scandinavian population in Sweden), dividing the nationalist parties in Sweden and causing a worse problem.


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Hej, Luka. There is no the reason for leaving the board, if my first and second post hurt you in some way, I ask for the adms, Loki and Foxie, delete them. I understand you, I hate when someone tries to comment on my country having no idea when it speaks..

[Thorum]

Perhaps I should have never resurrected this thread?

:(

[Elveon]

Perhaps I should have never resurrected this thread?

:(

T'was an interesting thread Anyway; Danke sehr ;)

[Luern]

http://z.about.com/d/middleeast/1/0/6/1/-/-/0720-niqab-france.jpg

France sucks. I'm out of here.:rolleyes:

C'est reculer pour mieux sauter.

That's just putting off the inevitable.

[L-F Céline]

Oui malheuresement la France est dans de beaux draps, comme on dit... Et nous autres européens ne pouvons rien faire car ce n'est pas notre peuple qui est au pouvoir...

[Klärchen]

Bonjour à tous! Je suis Allemande et je m'intéresse à savoir quelles sont les expériences avec l'instruction à la maison en France. Elle est illégal en Allemagne, évidemment parce qu'on craint que l'intégration des immigrants, surtout des immigrants musulmans, puisse être même plus difficile. Mais il existe des problèmes pareils en France, n'est-ce pas? Comment est-ce qu'on s'en sort en France?
(Je vous prie d'excuser mon français défectueux!) :)

[asulf]

En France l'école jusqu'à 16 ans est obligatoire
l'enseignement peut être fait à la maison,en fin d'année scolaire, l'élève est évalué par un inspecteur scolaire avec des examens qui permettent d'établir son réel niveau.:D

[Klärchen]

Merci, asulf. Je crois qu'ici beaucoup de parents et aussi d'élèves préféreraient le système français, pour beaucoup de raisons...

[asulf]

Encore faudrait il pouvoir avoir une maman au foyer pour faire la classe.
De nos jours, bien souvent un seul salaire ne suffit plus pour bien vivre;
De fait, je connais très peu de personnes qui n'envoient pas leurs enfants en cours,dans les établissements scolaires.

[Klärchen]

Encore faudrait il pouvoir avoir une maman au foyer pour faire la classe.
De nos jours, bien souvent un seul salaire ne suffit plus pour bien vivre;
De fait, je connais très peu de personnes qui n'envoient pas leurs enfants en cours,dans les établissements scolaires.
Oui, ça est vrai. Et il y a même beaucoup d'hommes ou de femmes qui élèvent seuls leur(s) enfant(s). Il faudrait donc envoyer les enfants à une école privée, mais cela coûte cher.

Cependant, aux écoles publiques, les élèves sont confrontés avec beaucoup d'influences négatives, de la part de leur compagnons surtout. Et qui n'apprend pas si vite et n'a pas de parents fortunés, n'aura guère de chance de suivre les cours proprement. Cela est surtout le cas avec les enfants des immigrants qui souvent ne savent guère parler allemand. Beaucoup de ces immigrants, souvent des musulmans, refusent de s'intégrer dans notre culture, et je suppose que c'est pourquoi on ne veut pas légaliser l'instruction à la maison en Allemagne. On craint qu'autrement ils iront tous à des écoles coraniques et se feront terroristes...

[Óttar]

@Pallamedes

I've always found that to be a huge irony that Charles Martel fought so valiantly to halt the Muslims at Poitiers, but now instead of conquest by honourable military means, the Saracens will conquer France because the government let them overrun and overpopulate the indigenous French. Increable!

[Cato]

@Pallamedes

I've always found that to be a huge irony that Charles Martel fought so valiantly to halt the Muslims at Poitiers, but now instead of conquest by honourable military means, the Saracens will conquer France because the government let them overrun and overpopulate the indigenous French. Increable!

The Muslims won't conquer Francia outright (at least not at first), rather their political enablers will (as is happening at present in the U.S. and elsewhere): the bleeding hearts, multicultis, political Jews, globalist trash, etc. But, being unable to cope with the Muslims, they'll be overthrown sooner or later by the ragheads. And not just Muslims by birth, say Arabs and Pakistanis, but also by white converts who have no better doctrine to adhere to than to Islam.

What alternative is there for self-respecting whites? Christianity is largely a failure and a doomed religion and atheism doesn't speak to the yearning in the human heart for the other, etc.

The desire for whites to possess a folk state of their own is, to me, a long-term goal and no easy road to travel. Eventually, it'll be a war to the death between whites [specifically, but whites aren't the only ones- look at how, for example, the Japanese are also being slowly displaced, demographically-speaking and the country is rife with gaijin], to which I can only say the only ones to ever fight that battle and, for a time, win were the Nazis.