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Petros Houhoulis
05-09-2012, 05:16 PM
Many folks here thought that Tsipras of "Syriza" might succeed at forming a government coalition with Kammenos of the "Independent Greeks" and other smaller parties.

It was not to be. Kammenos is the ultimate hardliner. He refused to meet with Samaras of "New Democracy" about the formation of a government. This made many to think that is leftist, since both of Kammenos and Tsipras are trying to invalidate the loan agreements of the Greek government with the E.U.

He is ultra-right instead. In his statements he clarified why he could not agree with Tsipras:

He does not accept his views on the Macedonian issue (Tsipras agrees to a something-Macedonia name, Kammenos rejects and reference to the name Macedonia) He does not accept Tsipras' views about illegal immigration (Tsipras is soft on immigration, Kammenos want all illegal immigrants out) and on other national issues.

In reality Kammenos was poking Samaras in the eye. The New Democracy party had agreed - with Dora Bakoyianni as a foreign minister and Samaras barely within the party at the time - to a composite name.

Now Samaras is the party leader and Bakoyianni is a defector who failed to garner enough votes to enter the Greek parliament. Samaras is rumored to rebuke Bakoyiannis' agreement and Kammenos is pushing him to do so, something not so easy since the Greek government was committed to a composite name to its' allies in NATO.

Conclusion: Samaras has no alternative but to set NATO on fire... In a few days from now. If he fails to do so, Kammenos shall jump on his neck...

The center-right is where the real skirmish shall play out, because the liberals shall get aligned with the center-right in order to keep Greece in the European Union and the Euro... The left and the protest vote peaked, it won't get any further...

Crn Volk
05-10-2012, 01:11 AM
Many folks here thought that Tsipras of "Syriza" might succeed at forming a government coalition with Kammenos of the "Independent Greeks" and other smaller parties.

It was not to be. Kammenos is the ultimate hardliner. He refused to meet with Samaras of "New Democracy" about the formation of a government. This made many to think that is leftist, since both of Kammenos and Tsipras are trying to invalidate the loan agreements of the Greek government with the E.U.

He is ultra-right instead. In his statements he clarified why he could not agree with Tsipras:

He does not accept his views on the Macedonian issue (Tsipras agrees to a something-Macedonia name, Kammenos rejects and reference to the name Macedonia) He does not accept Tsipras' views about illegal immigration (Tsipras is soft on immigration, Kammenos want all illegal immigrants out) and on other national issues.

In reality Kammenos was poking Samaras in the eye. The New Democracy party had agreed - with Dora Bakoyianni as a foreign minister and Samaras barely within the party at the time - to a composite name.

Now Samaras is the party leader and Bakoyianni is a defector who failed to garner enough votes to enter the Greek parliament. Samaras is rumored to rebuke Bakoyiannis' agreement and Kammenos is pushing him to do so, something not so easy since the Greek government was committed to a composite name to its' allies in NATO.

Conclusion: Samaras has no alternative but to set NATO on fire... In a few days from now. If he fails to do so, Kammenos shall jump on his neck...

The center-right is where the real skirmish shall play out, because the liberals shall get aligned with the center-right in order to keep Greece in the European Union and the Euro... The left and the protest vote peaked, it won't get any further...

It doesn't matter in the end. If you want to remain in the EU and Eurozone, you will do as they say.

Petros Houhoulis
05-10-2012, 11:07 PM
It doesn't matter in the end. If you want to remain in the EU and Eurozone, you will do as they say.

We will, you won't. Tsipras lost his chance to become prime minister.

Crn Volk
05-10-2012, 11:41 PM
We will, you won't. Tsipras lost his chance to become prime minister.

The debt must be paid.....

Petros Houhoulis
05-13-2012, 07:00 PM
The debt must be paid.....

Yes.