Be the Warrior not the Waif

[Mortimer]

Once a man finds out you will let him get away with things, you will cease to be an object of love/admiration to him, and become a toy for him to play with"



Earning respect

Determine what things you absolutely will not stand for
Maintain your boundaries
Let him know there are consequences for not upholding his end of things
Make him understand that your life can continue on without him
Be the warrior, not the waif



Be the warrior, not the waif.

Whole Article to be found here... http://www.girlsaskguys.com/Articles/Relationships/The-Warrior-vs-The-Waif.html

[Mary]

Two different things wanteth the true man: danger and diversion.
Therefore wanteth he woman, as the most dangerous plaything.
Man shall be trained for war, and woman for the recreation of the
warrior: all else is folly.

http://philosophy.eserver.org/nietzsche-zarathustra.txt

[Mortimer]

http://philosophy.eserver.org/nietzsche-zarathustra.txt


And the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man.
Then the man said, “This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.”
Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

[Mary]

16 To the woman he said,

“I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing;
with pain you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you. ”

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3%3A16&version=NIV1984

[Aces High]

IM dont forget to post some pics in your Roman gladiator warrior costume.

kthnks in advance.

Aces.

[Mortimer]

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3%3A16&version=NIV1984

Im all for Patriacharchy but

A man should love his wife as Christ loved the church
Ephesians 5:25-31,33

[Mary]

22 Let women be subject to their husbands, as to the Lord:

23 Because the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church. He is the saviour of his body.

24 Therefore as the church is subject to Christ, so also let the wives be to their husbands in all things.

25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it:

26 That he might sanctify it, cleansing it by the laver of water in the word of life:

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any; such thing; but that it should be holy, and without blemish.

28 So also ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife, loveth himself.

29 For no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, as also Christ doth the church:

30 Because we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they shall be two in one flesh.

32 This is a great sacrament; but I speak in Christ and in the church.

33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular love his wife as himself: and let the wife fear her husband.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%205&version=DRA

[Mortimer]

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%205&version=DRA

Fear means Respect not "Beating the Wife"

[Mary]

Fear means Respect not "Beating the Wife"

The word is phobētai as in phobia. Which means fear. How can you have fear without beatings?

[Mortimer]

The word is phobētai as in phobia. Which means fear. How can you have fear without beatings?

But how can you love your wife as your own self when you beat her? Did Jesus Christ beat anyone?

[Mary]

But how can you love your wife as your own self when you beat her? Did Jesus Christ beat anyone?

Yes, he beat the Jews in the Temple. It has even been illustrated numerous times:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qk05DbEpYL4/T1w-jZ0zC6I/AAAAAAAAI2g/yG16E2UuJt8/s1600/CLEANSING+THE+TEMPLE.jpg

You do it because you care for your wife.

[Aces High]

But how can you love your wife as your own self when you beat her? Did Jesus Christ beat anyone?

IM first concentrate on getting yourself a girl....then worry about giving her a backhander later on.
One thing at a time old son,dont get ahead of yourself.:thumbs up

[morski]

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[Mortimer]

Yes, he beat the Jews in the Temple. It has even been illustrated numerous times:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qk05DbEpYL4/T1w-jZ0zC6I/AAAAAAAAI2g/yG16E2UuJt8/s1600/CLEANSING+THE+TEMPLE.jpg

You do it because you care for your wife.

He didnt beat them, here is what the NT Says...


And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons.

[Mortimer]

IM first concentrate on getting yourself a girl....then worry about giving her a backhander later on.
One thing at a time old son,dont get ahead of yourself.:thumbs up

Why? Most topics are centered around things which doesnt concern us immediately in our Lifes.

[Mary]

He didnt beat them, here is what the NT Says...

He drove the Jews out of the temple with a whip:


13 And the pasch of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

14 And he found in the temple them that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting.

15 And when he had made, as it were, a scourge of little cords, he drove them all out of the temple, the sheep also and the oxen, and the money of the changers he poured out, and the tables he overthrew.

16 And to them that sold doves he said: Take these things hence, and make not the house of my Father a house of traffic.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jn%202:13-16;&version=DRA

[Mortimer]

He drove the Jews out of the temple with a whip:



http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jn%202:13-16;&version=DRA

he drove them out but didnt beat them..... in german its called "verscheuchen", it means basically you are crying and making wild gestures at someone so he runs out

[Hess]

Yes, he beat the Jews in the Temple. It has even been illustrated numerous times:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qk05DbEpYL4/T1w-jZ0zC6I/AAAAAAAAI2g/yG16E2UuJt8/s1600/CLEANSING+THE+TEMPLE.jpg

You do it because you care for your wife.

that's pure slander and nonsense.

Jesus never "beat" them, he just overturned their carts and tables and drove them out of the temple.

[Mary]

he drove them out but didnt beat them..... in german its called "verscheuchen", it means basically you are crying and making wild gestures at someone so he runs out

Then why did he make a whip first? Obviously because he used the whip to "drive them" meaning "beat them" so that they left.

[Mary]

that's pure slander and nonsense.

Jesus never "beat" them, he just overturned their carts and tables and drove them out of the temple.


The narrative of Jesus and the money changers, commonly referred to as the cleansing of the Temple, occurs in all four canonical gospels of the New Testament.

In this episode Jesus and his disciples travel to Jerusalem for Passover, where he expels the money changers from the Temple, accusing them of turning the Temple to a den of thieves through their commercial activities.[1][2] In the Gospel of John Jesus refers to the Temple as “my Father’s house” thus in some views making a claim to being the Son of God.[3]

This is the only account of Jesus using physical force in any of the Gospels. The narrative occurs near the end of the Synoptic Gospels (at Mark 11:15–19, 11:27–33, Matthew 21:12–17, 21:23–27 and Luke 19:45–48, 20:1–8) and near the start in the Gospel of John (at John 2:13–16). Some scholars believe that these refer to two separate incidents, given that the Gospel of John includes more than one passover.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple

[Mortimer]

Then why did he make a whip first? Obviously because he used the whip to "drive them" meaning "beat them" so that they left.

I told you how it was

[Mary]

I told you how it was

If he is yelling and pointing then why does he need a whip? The whip is symbolic for the use of violence. That's why sheep and livestock are also referenced. Because you drive sheep and livestock with a whip. And that's symbolic for how Jesus drove out the Jews. That is by beating them like animals.

[Mortimer]

If he is yelling and pointing then why does he need a whip? The whip is symbolic for the use of violence. That's why sheep and livestock are also referenced. Because you drive sheep and livestock with a whip. And that's symbolic for how Jesus drove out the Jews. That is by beating them like animals.

he needed the whip to look more scary

[Mary]

he needed the whip to look more scary

The whip symbolizes the use of violence. The sheep and cattle symbolizes the people who traded in the temple. The temple symbolizes society. You need to read all the stories about Jesus symbolically.

[Hess]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple

Physical Force does not equal beating them.

He used physical force to overturn the carts and tables, that's it.

[Mary]

Physical Force does not equal beating them.

He used physical force to overturn the carts and tables, that's it.

Physical force does not refer to objects. Otherwise he would be using physical force every time he opened a door. And if he was only overturning tables, he would not need a whip. Also he couldn't drive the money changers out simply by yelling at them since their coins spilled on the ground and the money changers were very greedy. So it's obvious from pretty much everything that he used the whip to beat them out of the temple.

[Hess]

Physical force does not refer to objects. Otherwise he would be using physical force every time he opened a door. And if he was only overturning tables, he would not need a whip. Also he couldn't drive the money changers out simply by yelling at them since their coins spilled on the ground and the money changers were very greedy. So it's obvious from pretty much everything that he used the whip to beat them out of the temple.

According to most biblical scholars, there is no evidence that he used the whip literally beat anyone.
http://bible.cc/john/2-15.htm

Any assumptions beyond that are pure speculation.

[Mary]

According to most biblical scholars, there is no evidence that he used the whip literally beat anyone.
http://bible.cc/john/2-15.htm

Any assumptions beyond that are pure speculation.

That's political correctness. If he didn't beat anyone then why did he need a whip in the first place?

[Osprey]

That's political correctness. If he didn't beat anyone then why did he need a whip in the first place?

So Jews were Jesus's wives.
:coffee:

[Virtuous]

Yes, he beat the Jews in the Temple. It has even been illustrated numerous times:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qk05DbEpYL4/T1w-jZ0zC6I/AAAAAAAAI2g/yG16E2UuJt8/s1600/CLEANSING+THE+TEMPLE.jpg

You do it because you care for your wife.

Jesus beating Jews, LIKE A BOSS.

[Mary]

So Jews were Jesus's wives.
:coffee:

God created man as superior to the woman. Therefore the man has full discretion on what to do with the woman. If he wants to throw her off a cliff that's his decision.

[Osprey]

God created man as superior to the woman. Therefore the man has full discretion on what to do with the woman. If he wants to throw her off a cliff that's his decision.

I agree to some extent.
But not all men are superior to women.
There is a curve which shows that more men are at end points of IQ and all other judging factors, while women cluster in between.
Essentially means some men are better than women and some men are worse.
Nothing in between.

[Mary]

I agree to some extent.
But not all men are superior to women.
There is a curve which shows that more men are at end points of IQ and all other judging factors, while women cluster in between.
Essentially means some men are better than women and some men are worse.
Nothing in between.

I'm talking about in a relationship. A relationship only works when the man is superior to the woman. This is a sociological fact. Women in all cultures tend to marry men that are older than them, wealthier than them, better educated than them, and so on. Why is this? Because women want to feel that their mate is superior to them.

This is why it comes natural to a woman to be the submissive party in a relationship. But what about cases where she's bitching? Well, she does this because she feels that the man is not superior to her and that makes her unhappy.

[Osprey]

I'm talking about in a relationship. A relationship only works when the man is superior to the woman. This is a sociological fact. Women in all cultures tend to marry men that are older than them, wealthier than them, better educated than them, and so on. Why is this? Because women want to feel that their mate is superior to them.

This would mean that a few alphas take many women and the few criminals and nutjobs would not take even one.
My only problem with your philosophy is that
Your Defintion of Alpha is :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/Holla4jv/BDAYS/My%20Birthday/2781.jpg
My Defintion of Alpha is :
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/281/1/6/__man_with_no_name___by_ccink-d48afnz.jpg

[Mary]

This would mean that a few alphas take many women and the few criminals and nutjobs would not take even one.
My only problem with your philosophy is that
Your Defintion of Alpha is :

We're talking about within relationships. And in the relationship you've got to have the man deciding and the woman obeying, otherwise it doesn't work.

Yeah, on the societal level some men are too weak and then they don't get a woman or they get a woman who bitches them. But most women want to have a man that's stronger than them.

[Osprey]

We're talking about within relationships. And in the relationship you've got to have the man deciding and the woman obeying, otherwise it doesn't work.

Yeah, on the societal level some men are too weak and then they don't get a woman or they get a woman who bitches them. But most women want to have a man that's stronger than them.

yes
a cuckold is equally abhorrent as a wife beater.

[Mary]

yes
a cuckold is equally abhorrent as a wife beater.

No, women want men that hit them. They don't want men that are cuckolds.

[Hess]

If he didn't beat anyone then why did he need a whip in the first place?

To raise commotion and create noise. It's like when in the movies, someone fires a gun in the air to get attention and authority.

[Mary]

To raise commotion and create noise. It's like when in the movies, someone fires a gun in the air to get attention and authority.

A whip is specifically designed to beat people. It's not designed to raise commotion or make noise. If he wanted to make noise, he would have used something designed for that purpose.

[PetiteParisienne]

I am submissive when needed and assertive when necessary.

[Yaroslav]

Women exist to serve men. Just read Book of Genesis (specifically Garden of Eden part).