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Pallantides
05-16-2012, 04:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/HjZcw.jpg

Rouxinol
05-16-2012, 04:38 PM
Looks über Cro-Magnid.

Artek
05-16-2012, 05:10 PM
Looks weird, not Cromagnid.
Morphologically, he resembles Indians imho

Pallantides
05-16-2012, 05:15 PM
Looks weird, not Cromagnid.
Morphologically, he resembles Indians imho

Cro-Magnon can often show little morphologically resemblance with some Native Americans.


Cro-Magnons:
http://media-1.web.britannica.com/eb-media/97/44397-004-D45BC527.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/stuff/cro-magnon2.jpg

Allenson
05-16-2012, 05:19 PM
What's the source for this, out of curiosity?

Artek--dot or feather?

Artek
05-16-2012, 05:21 PM
I'm skeptical when I see reconstructions, since we aren't able to find out how soft parts looked like.

Pallantides
05-16-2012, 05:24 PM
What's the source for this, out of curiosity?


http://www.virtualjamestown.org/images/artifacts/jamestown.html


On September 5, 1996, JR102C (the scientific name) was found 100 yards from the southeast bulwark and within the archaeological footprint of James Fort. The skelton had a .60 caliber ball still in place, lodged just below the right knee. From an examination of the skeleton and forensic reconstruction of the face, experts have determined that JR102C was a Caucasian male, 5'5" tall, about nineteen years of age, "moderately muscular but not used to performing hard labor, someone living the life of a gentleman." All of the speculation about JR's identity rest upon the assumption that he was an English gentleman. Much evidence points in that direction: he was buried in a coffin oriented east to west in accordance with Christian beliefs. Fragments of Indian artifacts are presumed to be related to previous Indian use of the site. Stephen Calthrop has been identified as the most likely candidate based upon accounts of internecine political wrangling that involved John Smith, Christopher Newport, and Edward Maria Wingfield. Calthrop is the only gentleman in Jamestown, for which we have age data, young enough in August 1607, the presumed time of the shooting, to fit the profile.

A close reading of John Smith's General History of Virginia reveals another possibility, however. Between 24 July and 7 September, 1608, Smith took his second expedition up the Chesapeake Bay. Sometime in early August, the Rapahanocks attacked Smith's group, being accompanied by Mosco, a Wighcocomico who was helping guide Smith on his voyage of "discovery." As they moved down the Rapananock River, the attacks continued with Mosco providing a valuable service in pursuing and running off the attackers. Returning after an attack, they found a "savage as dead, shot in the knee." Mosco wanted to kill him. But Smith had the surgeon traveling with them "dress this savage" and within an hour "he looked cheerfully and did eat and speak." Then they continued on their journey back to James Fort. Smith recalls the trip back towards James Town with the wounded man as prisoner helping them until it appears they exchanged Amoroleck, the brother of a Hasinninga Indian king, for a variety of English demands, including a promise to grow corn for the English in the future. Smith's account of events is complex, confusing, and incomplete and the documentary record does not overturn the speculation above. Nevertheless, in August 1608 an Indian was shot through the knee by an Englishman, of such status (a king's brother) and usefulness to the English that he could have merited better treatment, such as a Christian burial with Indian artifacts. Future archaeological work is likely to settle the matter, but the case shows how much richer our understanding of Jamestown's history may become when we interrogate the past armed with both material and documentary evidence.

GeistFaust
05-16-2012, 06:11 PM
Keltic-Nordid with additional Cro-Magnon influences would be my thought, but it seems the reconstruction is real asymmetrical, which gives him a pseudo-Sylvid appearance.

Sikeliot
05-16-2012, 06:13 PM
Keltic Nordid

Allenson
05-16-2012, 06:32 PM
If there's any doubt, this fellow is almost surely either wholly Europid or wholly Amerind. Given his age and the date it would be very unlikely that he was of mixed parentage. Twenty or thirty years later, there might be a case for this but a for a 19 year old in 1608, the math just doesn't add up.

Smeagol
10-28-2013, 12:33 AM
Keltic Nordid.