Macedonia must change the name

[Kanuni]

If you don't want to provoke aggression and instability in Balkans you must change the name which you already stole from the right owners in order to both acquire ancient history and usurp/claim Northern region of Greek Macedonia.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0KgwP4bp01o/TkwOaCl7oOI/AAAAAAAAAFY/oEMpyFRQSDE/s1600/fyroms%2Bpropaganda2.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hdgmnPXrcbM/S64fJxI3kWI/AAAAAAAABig/4Uk-RZdf0gE/s1600/Solun+capital+of+FYROM.JPG

You don't fulfill the requirements for a sovereign nation since it is known that you are Titos experiment and your language is actually a WestBulgarian dialect.

[Sikeliot]

... not this again

[Kanuni]

... not this again

If you have nothing to contribute don't troll my thread then.:mad:

[Vojnik]

If you don't want to provoke aggression and instability in Balkans you must change the name which you already stole from the right owners in order to both acquire ancient history and usurp/claim Northern region of Greek Macedonia.

So we Macedonians by defending our own identity will cause aggression and instability in the Balkans? that's a silly statement to make. The only country that finds an issue with us calling our country Macedonia is none other then Greece. there is no reason why this issue between Macedonia and Greece will cause any instability in the Balkans as a whole.

Macedonians have not stolen anything, in fact, it is our neighbours that have stolen from us. We have the right to the ancient history of Macedonia, more so then the modern Greeks of today's Northern Greece, for they are in the greater majority, Hellenized Christian Turks from Anotolia. In 1922, around 900,000 Orthodox refugees from Turkey had arrived in Greece (including 50,000 Armenians), but today somewhow they are the decendents of the ancient Macedonians. Us modern Macedonians have much more right to Macedonia because we have always been in Macedonia. The Slavs would of certainly mixed with the native populations, which is why we have more right to Macedonia then the modern Greeks do.

The only thing creating aggression and instability in the Balkans is the presence of the Albanians.



You don't fulfill the requirements for a sovereign nation since it is known that you are Titos experiment and your language is actually a WestBulgarian dialect.

How is that so? Macedonians have been calling themselves as such even before Tito was born.

Here is one example, way back in the 10th century!

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/2008/12/11/macedonians-noted-in-the-gesta-hungarorum-10th-century/




Of the countrymen [civibus] of the Bulgarians and Macedonians

Some days later, Zuard and Cadusa with their whole army, emblazoned standards aloft, crossed the water of the Danube and captured Barancs [Borons] castle, after which they went to the castle of Scereducy. Hearing this, the countrymen of the Bulgarians and Macedonians feared greatly before them. Then all the inhabitants of
that land sent their envoys with many gifts, to surrender the land to them and hand over their sons as hostages. Zuard and Cadusa, inclining to peace and taking their gifts and hostages, left them in peace, as if they were their own people, and riding beyond
the Wacil Gate [ultra portam Wacil], they took the castle of King Philip, then they conquered the whole land up to the city of Cleopatra [ad Cleopatram civitatem], and they had in their power the whole land from the city of Durazzo [Durasu] to the land of Rác [ad terram Rachy]. And Zuardu brought his wife to him into that land and the people, who are now called Sobamogera, remained after Duke Zuard’s death in
Greece and they were thus called soba by the Greeks, that is stupid people, because with their lord dead they did not take the way home.

Macedonia in the Ottoman empire:
http://www.art.com/products/p12364817-sa-i1736387/t-conder-map-showing-turkey-in-europe-and-its-neighbouring-european-states-of-the-balkans.htm

Macedonia in the Roman Empire:

http://i46.tinypic.com/14x2d94.jpg

[Kanuni]

So we Macedonians by defending our own identity will cause aggression and instability in the Balkans? that's a silly statement to make. The only country that finds an issue with us calling our country Macedonia is none other then Greece. there is no reason why this issue between Macedonia and Greece will cause any instability in the Balkans as a whole.

Ofcourse it will be non other than Greece since you are trying to steal a part of their history.Ancient Macedonians were from the Dorian tribe,that is supported by mainstream historians.By acquiring this new identity you want in the future claim Northern Greek territory.



Macedonians have not stolen anything, in fact, it is our neighbours that have stolen from us. We have the right to the ancient history of Macedonia, more so then the modern Greeks of today's Northern Greece, for they are in the greater majority, Hellenized Christian Turks from Anotolia. In 1922, around 900,000 Orthodox refugees from Turkey had arrived in Greece (including 50,000 Armenians), but today somewhow they are the decendents of the ancient Macedonians. Us modern Macedonians have much more right to Macedonia because we have always been in Macedonia. The Slavs would of certainly mixed with the native populations, which is why we have more right to Macedonia then the modern Greeks do.

The only thing creating aggression and instability in the Balkans is the presence of the Albanians.


No,typical FYROMANIAN bullshit.You are WestBulgarians and you can have only Ancient Thracian blood not Macedonian ones.Most of your today territory scretches Thracian/Paeonian/Dardanian territory.



How is that so? Macedonians have been calling themselves as such even before Tito was born.

Here is one example, way back in the 10th century!

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/2008/12/11/macedonians-noted-in-the-gesta-hungarorum-10th-century/


LOL,typical brainwashed fyromanian quoting their nationalistic website.:coffee:



Macedonia in the Ottoman empire:
http://www.art.com/products/p12364817-sa-i1736387/t-conder-map-showing-turkey-in-europe-and-its-neighbouring-european-states-of-the-balkans.htm

Macedonia in the Roman Empire:

http://i46.tinypic.com/14x2d94.jpg


Irrelevant stuff.

[Vojnik]

:lol00002:

ameno is mentally ill. Can a Admin please delete this pointless thread?

[Kanuni]

:lol00002:

ameno is mentally ill. Can a Admin please delete this pointless thread?

lol butthurt much.Just look at your dumb facts/arguments.

[morski]

Ofcourse it will be non other than Greece since you are trying to steal a part of their history.Ancient Macedonians were from the Dorian tribe,that is supported by mainstream historians.By acquiring this new identity you want in the future claim Northern Greek territory.




We and they have always claimed Northern "Greek" territory.:D:D

http://www.macedoniainfo.com/docs/BULGARIAN-EXARCHATE.jpg

http://www.macedoniainfo.com/docs/BGbyTscherkasky.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Bulgarians_in_1912.jpg

[dralos]

EAST MACEDONIA TO BULGARIA,go and hug your brothers
WEST TO ALBANIA

[morski]

EAST MACEDONIA TO BULGARIA,go and hug your brothers
WEST TO ALBANIA

:nono:

Macedonia stays whole and enters EU and NATO. No more micro states in the Balkans.

[dralos]

:nono:

Macedonia stays whole and enters EU and NATO. No more micro states in the Balkans.
what do you mean,how do you creat a micro state by splitting monkeydonia between albania and bulgaria,this is just one microstate less

[Vojnik]

lol butthurt much.Just look at your dumb facts/arguments.

No, I just cbf replying to your stupidity and then having to go through endless and pointless debates with a moron.

[dralos]

No, I just cbf replying to your stupidity and then having to go through endless and pointless debates with a moron.
i think people who less then hundred years were identifying themself as bulgarians and now all of sudden just bcs of tito became children of alexanderski the greatski are the biggest morons with amnesia:D

[morski]

what do you mean,how do you creat a micro state by splitting monkeydonia between albania and bulgaria,this is just one microstate less

I see what you did here.:D

I don't believe it's possible for any Balkan state to absorb any additional territory in the near future. It won't be allowed by the international community.

So if Macedonia splits in half we'll have two new Kosovos around here.

[Vojnik]

i think people who less then hundred years were identifying themself as bulgarians and now all of sudden just bcs of tito became children of alexanderski the greatski are the biggest morons with amnesia:D

This is the reason why it is pointless to debate with you people, it wont end and yous will continuously spill the same garbage over and over again, like the quote above.

[dralos]

I see what you did here.:D

I don't believe it's possible for any Balkan state to absorb any additional territory in the near future. It won't be allowed by the international community.

So if Macedonia splits in half we'll have two new Kosovos around here.
i would be happy if dardania got integrated in albania but i dont see that happening for now.i guess we just have to wait for a cure for amnesia:D

[Vojnik]

what do you mean,how do you creat a micro state by splitting monkeydonia between albania and bulgaria,this is just one microstate less

Where do you dream the 'splitting' to be located in your silly opinion?