Dutch Muslim Revert sisters in Holland

[Arne]

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[Loki]

This is an interesting article.

[StonyArabia]

In North America it's the same most of the converts to Islam are females of European origins. They say they feel empty or void, the pattern seems that they often come from heavily atheist families, this also true of Britain and other parts of Europe. Though many of them come from Christian families as well usually of the Protestant variety. As well there is some European Men who converted to Islam but the vast of the majority of the converts tend to be women of European descent, this can be observed in many Mosques here as well.


Those reasons reflect many female converts' thinking, say experts who have studied the phenomenon. "A lot of women are reacting to the moral uncertainties of Western society," says Dr. Jawad. "They like the sense of belonging and caring and sharing that Islam offers."

Others are attracted by "a certain idea of womanhood and manhood that Islam offers," suggests Karin van Nieuwkerk, [who has studied Dutch women converts]. "There is more space for family and motherhood in Islam, and women are not sex objects."...

Read more: http://www.billyjoel.com/content/why-are-european-women-converting-islam

[Loki]

In North America it's the same most of the converts to Islam are females of European descent origins.

It happens in England too.

[Osprey]

In North America it's the same most of the converts to Islam are females of European origins. They say they feel empty or void, the pattern seems that they often come from heavily atheist families, this also true of Britain and other parts of Europe. Though many of them come from Christian families as well usually of the Protestant variety. As well there is some European Men who converted to Islam but the vast of the majority of the converts tend to be women of European descent, this can be observed in many Mosques here as well.



Read more: http://www.billyjoel.com/content/why-are-european-women-converting-islam

Bull....
You don't have to go to Islam to get a feel of traditional lifestyle.
We have plenty of them in NA.
Amish, Mormons, etc.
These women are usually those who first involve themselves in a very hedonistic lifestyle and when they are spent and are unable to find a decent mate, pretend to be virtuous and chaste and convert to Islam to find a man that controls, demeans and abuses them.

[StonyArabia]

It happens in England too.

Britain was the first place to see the conversion of European females to Islam. Then this was taken across throughout the Western World now there are women from across Western Europe and North America converting to Islam. As well many often explore the faith and the like the tenents of the teachings. Often such women feel they need to restore to more conservative times and that Christianity has failed in that regard or they come from atheistic household which they see many of it's ideals not fitting to how they want to see the reality and the world. From Canada and the U.S all the way to Australia and Western Europe the pattern is the same the converts mostly women often of European origins, with some men. It's interesting how it appeared in England, evidently there is some conversion in Russia as well they often tend to be females to.

[Arne]

The Part of the Video where it begins at 1:30 goes deep under my skin cause it shows up the loss of the western civilisation against odd religions from the east.
This also happens here in Germany and not only Females are involved.
It´s quite shocking and i don´t blame these reverts for what they are but moreso for the decisions they made.
Disgusting as it could be....
I´m shocked about these Development making it visible.

[StonyArabia]

Bull....
You don't have to go to Islam to get a feel of traditional lifestyle.
We have plenty of them in NA.
Amish, Mormons, etc.

The Amish tend to be traditional yes, but in regards to Mormons they have liberalized and changed their theology to fit in with the times so to speak,. The Mormons are not traditional anymore apart from few splinter sects. These women as whole have been alienated by Christianity or atheism and hence why they look at other faith, tradition is only part of it, but theology or what they believe is the truth is more so important to them.



These women are usually those who first involve themselves in a very hedonistic lifestyle and when they are spent and are unable to find a decent mate, pretend to be virtuous and chaste and convert to Islam to find a man that controls, demeans and abuses them.

That's a possiblity, but in reality like many converts they are just seeking for the truth as well. Many of these women might indeed led hedonistic lifestyle or they just had an empty live that they could not find in the heavily secularized world and hence their conversions. If that was the case many of the women would leave for other faiths, but they seem just to stick to Islam, and hence why many convert out of genunine faith and believe.

[Osprey]

The Amish tend to be traditional yes, but in regards to Mormons they have liberalized and changed their theology to fit in with the times so to speak,. The Mormons are not traditional anymore apart from few splinter sects. These women as whole have been alienated by Christianity or atheism and hence why they look at other faith, tradition is only part of it, but theology or what they believe is the truth is more so important to them.




That's a possiblity, but in reality like many converts they are just seeking for the truth as well. Many of these women might indeed led hedonistic lifestyle or they just had an empty live that they could not find in the heavily secularized world and hence their conversions. If that was the case many of the women would leave for other faiths, but they seem just to stick to Islam, and hence why many convert out of genunine faith and believe.

You have an idealist's view, my friend.
No doubt, you may follow Islam's genuinely good tenets but to speculate that these women do that, is a bit too far fetched.
That's including those cases when you just have an immigrant boyfriend and you have to choose Islam just to please him and forget about your ageing family, cousins and friends.

[Yaroslav]

This is a very unfortunate trend. I think this is because of demoralization of society and demasculation of men that is causing this. Women follow the men. If the Dutch want to keep their country and Christianity the men have to stand up. Majority of the Dutch are already going to hell, the last thing they need is for foreign heathen cult to take hold.

[Óttar]

The only reason people really convert to Islam is the fashion. If a religion wants to gain converts, they have to find something to compete with those kufis, qaftans and niqabs.

Otherwise, Islam is a religion that is so legalistic i.e. "the Prophet (SAW) told Abu Bakr, told Aisha, told Usuf Ali Ben-Gaba told Salami Salami Baloney that it is haram to breathe out of your left nostril at 2pm on a Sunday. - Hazrat Salami Sahih Al-Bakri. Book 69." I can't possibly see what its appeal is.

Seriously, just check ANY YouTube video about Islam, or something related to Islam, and you'll find pages and pages of Muslims ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER over stupid, hairsplitting, legalistic, dogmatic minutiae BULLSHIT.

Just that alone is enough to keep someone from converting.

[Arne]

The only reason people really convert to Islam is the fashion.
I thought it was about Muslim Man hugging.. :eek: and restricting rights to females

[Arne]

Blouwe ouge
Just found the full Documentation
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxdp4_islam-in-nederland_people

[Riki]

What an horrible image.
Those beautiful White faces wearing that shit.
I cannot and never will understand,how the fuck someone can choose to be backward's.
With European Women its actually an enigma.The great Women of the past fought hard to have right's.Now this twat's give up every thing to follow some sick and dangerous religious,political,extremist organisation.Even more interesting.I wonder how they feel when her muslim "Brothers" call the White man trash and pigs,and that we all have to be exterminated.Do they deep in their souls(If any)believe this to be true?

[The Lawspeaker]

Bull....
You don't have to go to Islam to get a feel of traditional lifestyle.
We have plenty of them in NA.
Amish, Mormons, etc.
These women are usually those who first involve themselves in a very hedonistic lifestyle and when they are spent and are unable to find a decent mate, pretend to be virtuous and chaste and convert to Islam to find a man that controls, demeans and abuses them.
Here in the Netherlands they might just as well have joined the Dutch Reformed Church and live like those women out in the Bible Belt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt_(Netherlands)). It's better than treason.

They should have returned to the good old ways of the farmer's daughters and wifes there (which is now becoming increasingly extinct):

http://media.nu.nl/m/m1cz31canf43.jpg

http://www.paulvangaalen.nl/html/Images/PVG-20060809-592g.jpg

[Aces High]

Those beautiful White faces wearing that shit.


What..?

They are all mingers...let the ugly fuckers convert.
Get them out of the gene pool asap.

[Contra Mundum]

That's a possiblity, but in reality like many converts they are just seeking for the truth as well.

These bimbos aren't concerned with "truth". They have a low self esteem and other mental and emotional issues. If someone is seeking truth, it isn't in Islam or any other religion for that matter. And Islam is one of the worst religions for a vulnerable person to turn to.

[The Lawspeaker]

What..?

They are all mingers...let the ugly fuckers convert.
Get them out of the gene pool asap.
And then deport the bloody traitors. Luckily there are only a couple of hundred of their sort so it could, at worst, fill up a Boeing 777 to f.ckoffistan. :)

[StonyArabia]

These bimbos aren't concerned with "truth". They have a low self esteem and other mental and emotional issues. If someone is seeking truth, it isn't in Islam or any other religion for that matter. And Islam is one of the worst religions for a vulnerable person to turn to.

I would not call them bimbos, since many of them seem educated and cultivated. There is no evidence to suggest that they have low self-esteem or mental and emotional issues, they seem to have come from families that were relatively normal. There are many reasons why they converted some of it is traditionalism, conservatism, and others were indeed in it because they have found the truth. Well they certainly feel atheism to have offered nothing and so they look for other faiths. The converts often study other faiths and then they make their decision in joining a religion that they feel is for them. They also feel Christianity has been altered or changed and Islam basically stayed the same, and especially in regards to it's message. Since they might come from a nominal Abrahamic tradition they want to stay in that area, however since Judaism has closed it's doors for converts, Islam still has them open and in fact encourages it. What is your opinion of male converts of Islam like Yusuf Estes and Hamaza Yusuf?. Their backgrounds are Anglo-Saxon American and Anglo-Greek and now both are renowned Islamic scholars.

[The Lawspeaker]

What is your opinion of male converts of Islam like Yusuf Estes and Hamaza Yusuf?. Their backgrounds are Anglo-Saxon American and Anglo-Greek and now both are renowned Islamic scholars.
My opinion ? Is that they are traitors that should have their passports taken in and themselves put on the next available flight to Mecca with a persona non grata-status. Maybe they can get Saudi citizenship. And if not ? Well sod them.

[Aces High]

There is no evidence to suggest that they have low self-esteem or mental and emotional issues,

About twenty seconds into the vid one of them starts crying over some shitty song on some muzzy website.

Real together people.....lolz.

[Contra Mundum]

I would not call them bimbos, since many of them seem educated and cultivated. There is no evidence to suggest that they have low self-esteem or mental and emotional issues, they seem to have come from families that were relatively normal. There are many reasons why they converted some of it is traditionalism, conservatism, and others were indeed in it because they have found the truth. Well they certainly feel atheism to have offered nothing and so they look for other faiths. The converts often study other faiths and then they make their decision in joining a religion that they feel is for them. They also feel Christianity has been altered or changed and Islam basically stayed the same, and especially in regards to it's message. Since they might come from a nominal Abrahamic tradition they want to stay in that area, however since Judaism has closed it's doors for converts, Islam still has them open and in fact encourages it. What is your opinion of male converts of Islam like Yusuf Estes and Hamaza Yusuf?. Their backgrounds are Anglo-Saxon American and Anglo-Greek and now both are renowned Islamic scholars.

It's lunacy to convert to the religion of immigrants who escaped from places ruled by that religion. These people are ignorant. Western tolerance is killing us. Islam will turn Europe into a house of horrors. Islamic countries do not tolerate individualism and free thinking. This is* alien to Western Civilization.

[The Lawspeaker]

It's lunacy to convert to the religion of immigrants who escaped from places ruled by that religion. These people are ignorant. Western tolerance is killing us. Islam will turn Europe into a house of horrors. Islamic countries do not tolerate individualism and free thinking. This alien to Western Civilization.

Come on... There are just a couple of 100 converts here in this country. Completely at par with the number of communists and Nazi's.

[Contra Mundum]

About twenty seconds into the vid one of them starts crying over some shitty song on some muzzy website.

Real together people.....lolz.

Islam is all about brainwashing.

[Contra Mundum]

Come on... There are just a couple of 100 converts here in this country. Completely at par with the number of communists and Nazi's.

Sounds like denial. Whatever helps you cope with reality.

[The Lawspeaker]

Sounds like denial. Whatever helps you cope with reality.

Sounds like you knowing shit about a local situation and watching too much FOX.

[Aces High]

Islam is all about brainwashing.

So is multicultaralism.

See who was doing the brainwashing......the 42" electronic widescreen jew in the living room...;)

[The Lawspeaker]

So is multicultaralism.

See who was doing the brainwashing......the 42" electronic widescreen jew in the living room...;)

It's funny though that the commercial stations here are worse than the public stations. And that's maybe because our public network is still pillarised. We have both left- and rightwing stations and both receive subsidies and have their own subscribers.

But then again commercial stations like RTL, Veronica are all about spreading Jewmerican influence.

[Contra Mundum]

So is multicultaralism.

See who was doing the brainwashing......the 42" electronic widescreen jew in the living room...;)

The girl crying and believing the weird and annoying song is beautiful reminds me of women who believe half negro babies are more attractive than white babies. They believe everything the TV tells them.

[Vixen]

Bull....
You don't have to go to Islam to get a feel of traditional lifestyle.
We have plenty of them in NA.
Amish, Mormons, etc.
These women are usually those who first involve themselves in a very hedonistic lifestyle and when they are spent and are unable to find a decent mate, pretend to be virtuous and chaste and convert to Islam to find a man that controls, demeans and abuses them.

I tend do agree with this.
I find it hard to believe that a well-adjusted girl raised with western values would find the restrictions of an islamic lifestyle appealing. A girl who has the option of wearing sexy clothes, having pre-marital sex and drinking will rarely choose a lifestyle that prohibits such things, unless she has taken these things to extremes (vulgarity, promiscuity and alcoholism/binge drinking). Too much of a good thing can be bad, it causes people to rebel against the freedoms that allow such good things to happen in the first place. People become jaded and saturated, they seek to purge themselves.
These girls should have just joined a convent instead.

[StonyArabia]

Most of the converts to Islam are in the British Isles and North America and they are often females, this is also followed by Russia. If you look at the Stats and such show the lead is in the British Isles and then North America. If you go to your local mosques you will see this being supported by the presence of the people that have recently converted or converted at recent time. The same is true in Russia, but Islam has been part of that country for a long time especially after annexing Tatarstan and the North Caucasus.

[Aces High]

They believe everything the TV tells them.

Its called The Ludovico Transformer Treatment.

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[Aces High]

Most of the converts to Islam are in the British Isles and North America and they are often females,

Balls.

Most of the converts are in Africa.....and the ones in the UK and US are niggers.

[The Lawspeaker]

I remember this program about slavery on Dutch TV and it was openly mentioned that indeed the Arabs traded in European slaves. Hell Dutch slaves too and we had to put out foot down on muzzie throat a couple of times (with our Turkish allies not caring a bit about us putting a foot down on the throats of their fellow Muslims and probably thinking that the twats had it coming too). But then there was a children's version of the same program and there it was conveniently left-out.

[ficuscarica]

Those women probably want a man to guide them. In their quest for a strong guy they go as far as to submit under insanity - akin to girls that keep returning to a guy who beats them up.

[StonyArabia]

Balls.

Most of the converts are in Africa.....and the ones in the UK and US are niggers.

No actually they are ethnic British in the U.K and often are females. The same is also true of the U.S most of the convert tend to be White American females.

This is supported by the Stats. However some Blacks converted to Islam indeed, but often there not women, and their numbers don't compare to the number of British or American women converting. We are speaking of women converts not general conversion.

[Contra Mundum]

Sounds like you knowing shit about a local situation and watching too much FOX.

What is with this Fox obsession? This is what Democrats in America say to people who disagree with them. If I believed everything Fox News says, I would be pro-Israel and believe that Iran is a threat. When it comes to foreign policy and Israel, Fox isn't any different from CNN and other networks. They just aren't anti-white like other networks are.

This may surprise you, but Fox News is less Jewish controlled than other news media in America. If it was totally Jewish controlled, they would be telling us George Zimmerman is a white Nazi who loves murdering innocent black children. That is basically what the Jewish controlled networks were telling us. CNN and NBC being the worst.

[Aces High]

No actually they are ethnic British in the U.K and often are females. The same is also true of the U.S most of the convert tend to be White American females.

This is supported by the Stats.

Which no doubt you will not provide.:rolleyes:

[The Lawspeaker]

What is with this Fox obsession? This is what Democrats in America say to people who disagree with them. If I believed everything Fox News says, I would be pro-Israel and believe that Iran is a threat. When it comes to foreign policy and Israel, Fox isn't any different from CNN and other networks. They just aren't anti-white like other networks are.

This may surprise you, but Fox News is less Jewish controlled than other news media in America. If it was totally Jewish controlled, they would be telling us George Zimmerman is a white Nazi who loves murdering innocent black children. That is basically what the Jewish controlled networks were telling us. CNN and NBC being the worst.
Bla bla.. but it's bollocks nonetheless. I remember very well what the cunts said about my country. It was 100 percent inaccurate and it has probably the same Jew cunts behind the scenes anyway because someone has to pay the bills and it can't be a bunch of stupid rednecks.

[StonyArabia]

I remember this program about slavery on Dutch TV and it was openly mentioned that indeed the Arabs traded in European slaves. Hell Dutch slaves too and we had to put out foot down on muzzie throat a couple of times (with our Turkish allies not caring a bit about us putting a foot down on the throats of their fellow Muslims and probably thinking that the twats had it coming too). But then there was a children's version of the same program and there it was conveniently left-out.

The Berbers went as far as Ireland and Iceland . They caused nightmares in the Med sea and often raided the Eastern coast of the U.S. This continued recently as late as the 20th century. The Americans often paid them tribute, until they decided it's time to take them down. When the Americans did, they finally allowed Europeans to take over the Barbary or the land of Berbers, and hence the Italian, Spanish and French colonization. Although they have been colonized and their power weakened the Berbers continued their raids. At the same time the Iberian, Italian, and French mixed with the Berber females creating a huge Metis population, but those who had Iberian fathers were called the Melitanos. The Berbers often acted independently and were never under the thumbs of the Ottoman, as their tribal leaders had only nominally obeyed the pashas who were often Cretan Greeks origins nor were liked. It's the same how the Ottomans could never subdue Arabia like they did in the Balkans.

[Aces High]

The Berbers went as far as Ireland and Iceland

Then you woke up.

[Loki]

I detest the terminology of 'revert'. Muslims somehow think they are better than other religions, hence they don't consider the term 'convert' to be appropriate. Well, screw them. I use convert. Deal with it.

[Aces High]

Pervert would be a better title.

[Azalea]

There are probably more women with a muslim background leaving Islam than actual Dutch women converting to Islam. This thread is what we call in Dutch 'Storm in een glas water'.

[The Lawspeaker]

There are probably more women with a muslim background leaving Islam than actual Dutch women converting to Islam. This thread is what we call in Dutch 'Storm in een glas water'.

Exactly. A storm in a tea cup. It's all that it is.

[Óttar]

Since they might come from a nominal Abrahamic tradition they want to stay in that area, however since Judaism has closed it's doors for converts...
This is not true. People have been converting to Judaism since Greco-Roman times. I always thought if someone wanted to return to the original Abrahamic religion, choosing Judaism would be the obvious solution.

[Arne]

There are probably more women with a muslim background leaving Islam than actual Dutch women converting to Islam. This thread is what we call in Dutch 'Storm in een glas water'.

I´d really encourage them to leave Islam, but the Clips show it up bad as it is.

[The Lawspeaker]

I´d really encourage them to leave Islam, but the Clips show it up bad as it is.

Don't be daft. A storm in a tea cup and you know that as well as I do.

[Riki]

What..?

They are all mingers...let the ugly fuckers convert.
Get them out of the gene pool asap.

I had to look for the definition of "Mingers"

Mingers.A male or female who fell out of the ugly tree at birth and hit every branch on the way down.

It makes sense.Perhaps you're right.

[Riki]

I detest the terminology of 'revert'. Muslims somehow think they are better than other religions, hence they don't consider the term 'convert' to be appropriate. Well, screw them. I use convert. Deal with it.

They think they are superior in everything.The pigs.

[The Lawspeaker]

They think they are superior in everything.The pigs.

They are so superior that they have to come to our country just to learn how to wipe their arse. With all due respect (none whatsoever): they can go fuck themselves (and their goats) in their own desert.

[Riki]

They are so superior that they have to come to our country just to learn how to wipe their arse. With all due respect (none whatsoever): they can go fuck themselves (and their goats) in their own desert.


That's the Irony.If they are so superior,the middle east should be an Utopia.

[arcticwolf]

Then you woke up.

Hahaha :thumb001:

[The Lawspeaker]

Hahaha :thumb001:

What Aces High was saying is rubbish. It did happen that they indeed snatched people from the coasts of the Netherlands, England and even Iceland. That's how far these pirates could get and what made them so incredibly dangerous and what our ancestors very much willing to have a go at them. Which is what they did.

[arcticwolf]

What Aces High was saying is rubbish. It did happen that they indeed snatched people from the coasts of the Netherlands, England and even Iceland. That's how far these pirates could get and what made them so incredibly dangerous and what our ancestors very much willing to have a go at them. Which is what they did.

I know they did. That's not why I gave him thumbs up. His comment is witty and funny. He has got a sharp and witty mind.