Which country do you support at Euro 2012?

[Corvus]

We had a thread already about which country is going to win, now
it`s all about support.

[Midori]

Germany

[Jack B]

Ireland I guess

[jerney]

Germany and Greece. Too bad Germany still hasn't kicked the Turks and blacks (and Poles who would rather play for Poland) from the team yet though.

[Aces High]

England as usual are a fucking joke.

So its Italy in my household..........:mad:

[Graham]

oh poor England, only team with no support. :cry

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/england.png

[Corvus]

[QUOTE=Graham;900045]oh poor England, only team with no support. :cry

Do not count your chickens before they hatch :D

[Graham]

Do not count your chickens before they hatch :D

Am supporting France, Sweden and Ukraine from the group stages. Also wish Ireland good luck.

[Aces High]

Am supporting France, Sweden and Ukraine from the group stages. Also wish Ireland good luck.

Why arent you supporting Scotland................:D

[Queen B]

Greece, of course!

I still remember our celebrations over 2004 :)

[Catrau]

We usually rise to the occasion, so... I hope to hear this beautiful anthem at least 5 times in the next month.

We fell in a very difficult group (with 3 former European Champions) and our team isn't as good as in other championships but… we never know...

This is the National Rugby team "Os Lobos" (The Wolves) in France's Rugby World Cup, another finest moment.

I choose this one because football payers suck when they sing the anthem, half of them are Africans and they play for themselves not for our flag.

This one comes with a bonus: NZ Haka. Don't they have anthem Down Under??


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May the best win!!

[Mortimer]

Italy....! Because Brazil and Italy play good football at World Cups i always support those two and at EuroCups mostly Italy, for me it has nothing to do with patriotism obviously but i like how they play football

[Catrau]

Italy....! Because Brazil and Italy play good football at World Cups i always support those two and at EuroCups mostly Italy, for me it has nothing to do with patriotism obviously but i like how they play football

Hey hey, IM. Your national team isn't European?
I only support other teams when the Portuguese team isn't present.
For me it's a game all right but it's also a lot about patriotism, maybe worse, nationalism. I usually don't think about it but, in a sportive manner, it's like fighting another tribe and feel the need for victory.

Lets keep this sportive "fights", they only step on pride.


http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/Facebook/Coimbra/soccer-tribe.jpg

[Hurrem sultana]

Sweden

[Turkophagos]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hPeD55VxrNs/0.jpg


Greece or ashes.

[Peyrol]

Obviously Italy.

Spain as second choice.

[Mraz]

I support Germany, but I also have sympathy for the Netherlands and France. Beat Portugal!!

[Ausência Forçada]

Well i support any 100% ethnic native european team... since my country Portugal will not participate in this Euro, in the past we usually did... now they send a luso-afro-brazilian team, and thats not Portugal, this a portuguese national team:

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http://ultimobastiao.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/1929portugal.jpg

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http://ultimobastiao.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/2000portugaloiro.jpg

besides that, hope to see good football and good supporting..:thumb001:

[Catrau]

I support Germany, but I also have sympathy for the Netherlands and France. Beat Portugal!!

Thank you, that's what we need.
We loooove to be the Underdogs... Victory flavor excels.
Don't you have a team of your own country?? I've got one and it is always there, on stage.

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/pt.jpg

[Hayalet]

We'll see. Italy and Portugal seem to have some nice betting odds.

[2Cool]

Well i support any 100% ethnic native european team... since my country Portugal will not participate in this Euro, in the past we usually did... now they send a luso-afro-brazilian team, and thats not Portugal, this a portuguese national team:

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[IMG]http://ultimobastiao.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/2000portugaloiro.jpg[/IMG ]

besides that, hope to see good football and good supporting..:thumb001:

In the past Portugal attended virtually no competition.

[Damião de Góis]

In the past Portugal attended virtually no competition.

I'd rather lose with a 100% portuguese team than win with foreigners... I never cheered for Obikwelu's medals.

[Vixen]

Italy....! Because Brazil and Italy play good football at World Cups

I remember supporting Italy in the 2006 World Cup because it was the team with the best looking players. lol

[Anthropologique]

I voted for France (first), then Spain and Portugal.

[The Lawspeaker]

The Netherlands (duh).

[Comte Arnau]

Damn, Andorra didn't get qualified. So I rest undecided. :D

[Ibericus]

Spain, of course.

[2Cool]

I'd rather lose with a 100% portuguese team than win with foreigners... I never cheered for Obikwelu's medals.

They aren't foreigners though. With the exception of guys like Pepe which I am against having in the team. Otherwise all the non-native Portuguese players were either born in Portugal or came to Portugal at a young age. Most also have Portuguese ancestry (Nani, Bosingwa, Bruno Alves, etc.) so I don't see the problem.

[Riki]

I support Germany, but I also have sympathy for the Netherlands and France. Beat Portugal!!

Still hurt's?

" Portugal thrash Bosnia in play-off "
Portugal 6 v Bosnia 2 :(

[Incal]

I remember supporting Italy in the 2006 World Cup because it was the team with the best looking players. lol

All ladies do that lol.

[Yaroslav]

Ukraine obviously.

[Kalitas]

Go Sweden, Go!:p
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=479&pictureid=3988

[Chego]

Italy and Sweden, cause of Ibra:D

[Mortimer]

Hey hey, IM. Your national team isn't European?
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Countries i could and would support: Austria and Serbia not on the List.....

edit and i dont care that much for football to be honest.....

[Lithium]

Bulgaria, we don't have big delegacy though.

[Vasconcelos]

Mine. After it gets eleminated I'll favour Spain, even if I'd still like Italy, Greece and Ireland to have a good championship.

[Contra Mundum]

Russia

[sturmwalkure]

Germany and Greece. Too bad Germany still hasn't kicked the Turks and blacks (and Poles who would rather play for Poland) from the team yet though.

The 'German' team is a total joke, ja.

[Mortimer]

Mine. After it gets eleminated I'll favour Spain, even if I'd still like Italy, Greece and Ireland to have a good championship.

yes, spain/portuguese/greeks i would support too......

[StonyArabia]

Spain, Italy, Portugal my favorite European nations.

[Yaroslav]

Mine. After it gets eleminated I'll favour Spain, even if I'd still like Italy, Greece and Ireland to have a good championship.

Your country is Spain I don't think Catalonia even has a separate team.

[Tor-mentor]

We're gonna f*ck you all up!!!


http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx25/theSv666/Oranjtank.jpg

Lovely Victory!!!

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx25/theSv666/Oranjetank2.jpg

[Drawing-slim]

Germany

[Vasconcelos]

Your country is Spain I don't think Catalonia even has a separate team.

My country is Portugal lol

[Peyrol]

If Balotelli will join the team, then i'll support Spain :lol:

[Comte Arnau]

Your country is Spain I don't think Catalonia even has a separate team.

Not only the national team of Catalonia exists, it is even older than the Spanish one. The current coach is Johan Cruyff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_national_team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_national_team)

Unlike in a few other sports, though, it is only allowed to play non-official matches, as the Spanish Federation vetoes affiliation of the team to FIFA. Were it allowed to play officially, I'm convinced it'd be a very competitive team, both in Europe and worlwide, at the level of Portugal or the Netherlands.

[Corvus]

If Balotelli will join the team, then i'll support Spain :lol:

Spain be prepared for Italian support :D

[Ausência Forçada]

They aren't foreigners though. With the exception of guys like Pepe which I am against having in the team. Otherwise all the non-native Portuguese players were either born in Portugal or came to Portugal at a young age. Most also have Portuguese ancestry (Nani, Bosingwa, Bruno Alves, etc.) so I don't see the problem.

None of them are ethnically portuguese, Nani, Bosingwa, Bruno Alves, Pepe, Rolando, Varela, its just laughable this pseudo NATIONAL(?) team.
Me and thousands dont support this luso-afro-brazilian (immigrants) team.
If it was a real natives team, it would be a pride to support, just like we have in Rugby, Hoquei etc.. or just like Italy or Spain have in football.

[Ausência Forçada]

If Balotelli will join the team, then i'll support Spain :lol:

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[aeiou]

Germany.

They play the best and most attractive football at the moment and it would be more than fair that they win the cup again after a long period of suffering. The Germans had a lot of bad luck in the last years.

Spain has won enough in the last years and all the other nations are significantly worse than these two teams. Therefore the logical winner is Germany!

[aeiou]

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx25/theSv666/Oranjetank2.jpg

That's certainly a reason to go for Holland! :thumb001:

My favourite final is Germany vs Holland. I really like the Netherlands, but Germany is my absolute favourite, so the Germans should beat the Dutch in the final. ;)

[Duke]

My own of course



If we weren't in, I would take Portugal

[Damião de Góis]

Go Portugal!

http://l.yimg.com/ea/img/-/100705/cf20-163319g.jpg?x=290&q=80&n=1&sig=ultNWZ4bAdBre2bnKLNCpg--

we won't pass the group stage, but whatever :p

[Damião de Góis]

If it was a real natives team, it would be a pride to support, just like we have in Rugby, Hoquei etc.. or just like Italy or Spain have in football.

I don't know about hoquei, but the rugby team is full of foreigners too...

[aeiou]

Go Portugal!

http://l.yimg.com/ea/img/-/100705/cf20-163319g.jpg?x=290&q=80&n=1&sig=ultNWZ4bAdBre2bnKLNCpg--

But the Dutch girls from Tor-mentor are hotter. :p


we won't pass the group stage, but whatever :p

That's right. Portugal cannot compete with the Germans and Dutch at the moment, they even struggled with Danemark in the qualifying round.

[Damião de Góis]

But the Dutch girls from Tor-mentor are hotter. :p

They are the models who got arrested in South Africa, right?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1286568/WORLD-CUP-2010-How-36-stunning-models-posing-Holland-fans-gatecrashed-World-Cup-beer-ad.html

Mine is just a regular girl ;)




That's right. Portugal cannot compete with the Germans and Dutch at the moment, they even struggled with Danemark in the qualifying round.

We'll see... maybe this time that the expectations are low we will do well?

[Vasconcelos]

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[Jack B]

http://img.rasset.ie/000514fd-642.jpg

The permanent expression of an Irish sports fan, I expect the Euros to be no different :D

[Il Principe]

Sweden, although very half-heartedly. I don't have much interest in watching our multicultural team, with a grotesque Bosnian attention-whore as the national symbol of Swedishness, chasing after a ball. When they get knocked out, then supporting Germany is a good second choice for me.

[Yaroslav]

Not only the national team of Catalonia exists, it is even older than the Spanish one. The current coach is Johan Cruyff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_national_team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_national_team)

Unlike in a few other sports, though, it is only allowed to play non-official matches, as the Spanish Federation vetoes affiliation of the team to FIFA. Were it allowed to play officially, I'm convinced it'd be a very competitive team, both in Europe and worlwide, at the level of Portugal or the Netherlands.

Sounds like Castilians discriminate against Catalonians.

[2Cool]

Sounds like Castilians discriminate against Catalonians.

It's FIFA/UEFA rules. Most of those players wouldn't be able to play for Catalonia at official games anyways since they played for Spain's senior team first.

[GeistFaust]

I am going to cheer for Germany first quite naturally, but am going to be giving a lot of support to Ireland, who would be a close second in terms of the teams I support.

Third choice would be a close pick between England, Netherlands, and Italy, partially due to my own background, and secondly because I don't care for the other countries.

I don't want to see anyone get defeated in particular except maybe France, because of all the immigrants, and Spain because they play Ireland in their group and have given Germany a hard time in the past.

[Arthur Scharrenhans]

I don't give a damn about football, actually, but I suppose I'll (very blandly) support Italy, as usual.

[Catrau]

B6rRvaw-J9w

LLLOOOOOLLLL!!!!!

That's Funny, the truth is that we haven't won much against Germany, much more defeats, but who doesn't. Games with Germany are: 11 players against 11 palyers and in the end... Germany win's hehehehe (well, most of the times)

This was another nice campaign that we started as underdogs in a group against Germany, England and Romania (3 wins).
Herman music is funny!!
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We have honor and glory
We have claws and passion
We have faith in victory
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[Albion]

Lol, Graham's doing that "anyone but England" thing again. Scots are just bitter. :D

[Vasconcelos]

That's Funny, the truth is that we haven't won much against Germany, much more defeats, but who doesn't. Games with Germany are: 11 players against 11 palyers and in the end... Germany win's hehehehe (well, most of the times)

Yea I'm not very confident either, but I still think it was funny. Apparently even some Germans did.

[Tanja88]

Netherlands:D

[Comte Arnau]

Sounds like Castilians discriminate against Catalonians.

Does it come as a surprise for you? Been so for over three centuries now.


It's FIFA/UEFA rules. Most of those players wouldn't be able to play for Catalonia at official games anyways since they played for Spain's senior team first.

Yes, but it's also because of the Spanish Football Federation, who's got a lot of power in there, and can certainly exert like ten times more pressure than the limited influence of the Catalan Football Federation. David vs Goliath. Catalans only have national teams playing in official international competitions in those minoritarian sports where Spaniards don't have a team. I think the only sport where there are both a Spanish national team and a Catalan national team recognized internationally is bowling.

[Graham]

Lol, Graham's doing that "anyone but England" thing again. Scots are just bitter. :D
:thumbs up
What can you say. To support England is treason. Alan hansen is a dead man. :mad:

If England were to win a trophy. Couldn't watch tele for a year.

[Turkophagos]

Does it come as a surprise for you? Been so for over three centuries now.



Yes, but it's also because of the Spanish Football Federation, who's got a lot of power in there, and can certainly exert like ten times more pressure than the limited influence of the Catalan Football Federation. David vs Goliath. Catalans only have national teams playing in official international competitions in those minoritarian sports where Spaniards don't have a team. I think the only sport where there are both a Spanish national team and a Catalan national team recognized internationally is bowling.



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[Comte Arnau]

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[Leliana]

Germany and Greece. Too bad Germany still hasn't kicked the Turks and blacks (and Poles who would rather play for Poland) from the team yet though.
There's only one Black and one Turk in the current national team remaining. Aogo was kicked out but he was part of the team in 2008 and Odonkor was thrown out before 2008.

[memobekes]

I'll be rooting for La Roja (Spain), of course. They play soccer the right way and are the favorites to retain the trophy. ¡Viva España!

[sturmwalkure]

There's only one Black and one Turk in the current national team remaining. Aogo was kicked out but he was part of the team in 2008 and Odonkor was thrown out before 2008.

That's not so so bad then. Of course not ideal but what are we going to do as Germany is still occupied thanks to 'my country'. :(

[aeiou]

In fact it's amazing that Germany has that much native players in their team, as there are a lot of foreigners in Germany.

Only one player of the first team (Özil) is fully non ethnically german, two others (Kedhira and Boateng) are half-german. The rest is full german (Neuer, Badstuber, Lahm, Höwedes, Schweinsteiger, Müller, Podolski, Klose. Podolski and Klose are not Poles, they are ethnic germans as the descend from the former German-speaking Silesia. Only because this region has been occupied by Poland doesn't make them Polish.

[sturmwalkure]

In fact it's amazing that Germany has that much native players in their team, as there are a lot of foreigners in Germany.

Only one player of the first team (Özil) is fully non ethnically german, two others (Kedhira and Boateng) are half-german. The rest is full german (Neuer, Badstuber, Lahm, Höwedes, Schweinsteiger, Müller, Podolski, Klose. Podolski and Klose are not Poles, they are ethnic germans as the descend from the former German-speaking Silesia. Only because this region has been occupied by Poland doesn't make them Polish.

It's a miracle that there are only a few non-Germans on the team in this world... especially seeing how Germany has had the most alienation imposed on it after WWII. Brainwashing, carpet-bombing cities, German women being mass-raped, Germans taught to hate themselves and to be ashamed of their great nation. :(

[Queen B]

We have one Albanian, one half-Checz, one half-Uruguayan
:(

[sturmwalkure]

We have one Albanian, one half-Checz, one half-Uruguayan
:(

Welcome to the 'new Europe. At least two are ethnically Europeans though. I am surprised there are no Niggers or Mulattoes on your team. A lot of Western teams seem to like to put Niggers on their teams to show how 'tolerant' and 'progressive' they are.

[poiuytrewq0987]

I will be rooting for Hellas. :thumb001:

[Queen B]

Welcome to the 'new Europe. At least two are ethnically Europeans though. I am surprised there are no Niggers or Mulattoes on your team. A lot of Western teams seem to like to put Niggers on their teams to show how 'tolerant' and 'progressive' they are.
Yeah, at least. :s

We don't have neutralized niggers, because they are recent immigrants and the laws for neutralization are very strict.
However, we have one in our basketball team (half-Cameroonese)

[jerney]

There's only one Black and one Turk in the current national team remaining. Aogo was kicked out but he was part of the team in 2008 and Odonkor was thrown out before 2008.

I read Jerome Boateng, Özil, Khedira, Cacau, some Turk called Gündugan and then Aogo were on the team still. Even if Aogo is not, even one Turkish or black/African-derived player is one too many.

And then there's Podolski who says he wishes he could play for the Polish national team and Klose who although doesn't identify as a Pole is married to one and speaks only Polish with his children. Those people shouldn't be representing a German national team.

[Peyrol]

Welcome to the 'new Europe. At least two are ethnically Europeans though. I am surprised there are no Niggers or Mulattoes on your team. A lot of Western teams seem to like to put Niggers on their teams to show how 'tolerant' and 'progressive' they are.

Uruguay is 88% white (italian, spanish, german and scandinavian).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay#Demographics

[sturmwalkure]

Uruguay is 88% white (italian, spanish, german and scandinavian).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay#Demographics

This I didn't know.

[Peyrol]

This I didn't know.

Italian-uruguayos make up 50% of the population.

Diego Forlan is a perfect example of uruguayan of northern italian, spanish and basque descents.

Defintely is hispanic, but not like average hispanic in USA :D

http://blog.panorama.it/sport/files/2011/08/forlan-large.jpg

[Queen B]

I think Jose Holevas looks Mulato-ish though
http://pepper.redplanet.gr/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/holebas.jpg
http://www.katimagiko.gr/sites/default/files/imagecache/edarticle_content/article/2011_05/714253.jpg
http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/1/2012/324x324/250020526.jpg

[sturmwalkure]

I think Jose Holevas looks Mulato-ish though
http://pepper.redplanet.gr/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/holebas.jpg
http://www.katimagiko.gr/sites/default/files/imagecache/edarticle_content/article/2011_05/714253.jpg
http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/1/2012/324x324/250020526.jpg

He looks tri-racial.. definitely not Europid.

[Peyrol]

I think Jose Holevas looks Mulato-ish though
http://pepper.redplanet.gr/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/holebas.jpg
http://www.katimagiko.gr/sites/default/files/imagecache/edarticle_content/article/2011_05/714253.jpg
http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/1/2012/324x324/250020526.jpg

Look something like spanish/italian, japanese and guarany mix.

[Corvus]

I read Jerome Boateng, Özil, Khedira, Cacau, some Turk called Gündugan and then Aogo were on the team still. Even if Aogo is not, even one Turkish or black/African-derived player is one too many.

And then there's Podolski who says he wishes he could play for the Polish national team and Klose who although doesn't identify as a Pole is married to one and speaks only Polish with his children. Those people shouldn't be representing a German national team.

It seems you are an expert. Even I was not aware that so many "immigrants"
belong to the German squad.

[Turkophagos]

We have one Albanian, one half-Checz, one half-Uruguayan
:(

If you mean Kapino, he won't be at the finals. If you mean Ninis, his parents are ethnic Greeks from the minority in Himarra afaik.

[Queen B]

If you mean Kapino, he won't be at the finals. If you mean Ninis, his parents are ethnic Greeks from the minority in Himarra afaik.
I meant Capino, Vyntra and Holevas. Ninis is Greek.

[Turkophagos]

I meant Capino, Vyntra and Holevas. Ninis is Greek.



Capino won't be at Euro 2012, so that leave us with a half Czech and a half Latin American.

http://worldsoccer.about.com/od/internationals/a/Greece-Euro-2012-Squad-Profile.htm


Mitroglou is ethnically Gypsy but I don't think he will make it to the final 23.


Not bad if you check all the other teams.

[Catrau]

Uruguay is 88% white (italian, spanish, german and scandinavian).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay#Demographics

And Portuguese, it was also a former Portuguese colony, in fact many Uraguayan family names are Portuguese.:)

[Vasconcelos]

And Portuguese, it was also a former Portuguese colony, in fact many Uraguayan family names are Portuguese.:)

Can also be Galician :p

[Catrau]

Can also be Galician :p

They could, but Galician did not found the Colonia de Sacramento unless they were travelling among the Portuguese in disguise... they would easily pass :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonia_del_Sacramento

[Contra Mundum]

I'm amazed how many Europeans root for the traditional powers over their own country. Everyone likes a winner I suppose. I'm rooting for the Russians, and obviously not because they have a great chance to win. It's just my favorite European country and I like their President.

[Peyrol]

And Portuguese, it was also a former Portuguese colony, in fact many Uraguayan family names are Portuguese.:)

Ah yes, the Cisplatina. :thumb001:

Anyway about some surnames is very difficult say if they're italian of portugueses...the surname "Costa" (coast, but also rib bone in italian) is very diffused in both the countries.

[Catrau]

Ah yes, the Cisplatina. :thumb001:

Anyway about some surnames is very difficult say if they're italian of portugueses...the surname "Costa" (coast, but also rib bone in italian) is very diffused in both the countries.

I was thiking about Silva and Pereyra for example, they are very common there.

[Peyrol]

I was thiking about Silva and Pereyra for example, they are very common there.

Silva is also a very common lombard surname (mean "forest") :D

http://www.gens.info/italia/it/turismo-viaggi-e-tradizioni-italia?t=cognomi&cognome=silva&x=0&y=0

[Damião de Góis]

Also Abreu for Uruguay.

[Vasconcelos]

Silva is also a very common lombard surname (mean "forest") :D

Silva is the most common Portuguese surname.

[Catrau]

Silva is also a very common lombard surname (mean "forest") :D

http://www.gens.info/italia/it/turismo-viaggi-e-tradizioni-italia?t=cognomi&cognome=silva&x=0&y=0

Hehehe, first time i've heard such a thing. Come on Parduellio, you can account a few hundreds in a region where live millions. In Portugal you have tenths of thousands (many) :p
Is there a chance that some Portuguese have migrated there?? In my hometown live a few Italian Families although there isn't any important migration route on both directions.

In my hometown (small town) there are some italian families:
Ferrari;
di Paola (headmaster of my daughter school);
Pugliese;
Gavazzi;
Furno (this one is an inmigrant he owns the nicest pizzaria downtown called "O siciliano", he is a friend of mine, he likes red cars and blondes :D
http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/siciliano1.jpg
http://city-of-tomar.com/2011/08/19/great-small-restaurants-in-the-city-of-tomar/

Rivotti (family of musicians, one of them had records at national level);
http://www.myspace.com/jorgerivotti

There is another one but right now I can't remember his family name, and probabily there are others that I do not know. There are a few Silva too, dunno if any are Italians:p


I think here Silva is related to the bush that gives the blackberries (not the phones):D

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/Silvado.jpg

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/Silvado2.jpg

[Grizzly]

If you mean Kapino, he won't be at the finals. If you mean Ninis, his parents are ethnic Greeks from the minority in Himarra afaik.

Panagiotis Kone is albanian.. Born as Panajot Gjergji Kone in Tirana... Gained greek citizenship then boom he's greek! Same with Ninis most likely.


BTW, do any of you guys support the French team? I'll be ashamed if I was a Frenchmen..

[Queen B]

Panagiotis Kone is albanian.. Born as Panajot Gjergji Kone in Tirana... Gained greek citizenship then boom he's greek! Same with Ninis most likely.
Kone and Ninis are ethnic Greeks from Albania. In case you don't know there is a quite numerous community of Greeks in Albania, and a Greek minority.
Kapino, on the other hand, is ethnic Albanian.

[safinator]

Kone and Ninis greek :laugh:
Let's say i know some of Kone relatives and you'll see how much Greek they're.
Passport doesn't change ethnicity.

[Grizzly]

Kone and Ninis are ethnic Greeks from Albania. In case you don't know there is a quite numerous community of Greeks in Albania, and a Greek minority.
Kapino, on the other hand, is ethnic Albanian.

Ninis could be but Kone isn't greek. He was born in Tirana where there are virtually no Greeks living. He was an immigrant to Greece where his name was change like all immigrants. As for Ninis he could just be another sellout who claimed to be Greek in southern Albania.

[safinator]

Who voted France should be ashamed :lol:

[safinator]

Ninis could be but Kone isn't greek. He was born in Tirana where there are virtually no Greeks living. He was an immigrant to Greece where his name was change like all immigrants. As for Ninis he could just be another sellout who claimed to be Greek in southern Albania.
Actually this is the case most of the time.
The only true Greeks in Albania are the one in Gjirokaster in the Dropull region.

[iNird]

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[Queen B]

Kone and Ninis greek :laugh:
Let's say i know some of Kone relatives and you'll see how much Greek they're.
Passport doesn't change ethnicity.

Although you might don't like the fact, Ninis is from Himara (and grew up in Zakynthos :cool:) , and just in case you are not aware of the demographics of Himara, he is of the Greek minority (or should I say Greek majority in Himara?) there.

Panagiotis Giorgos Kone (how Albanian this name is :lol: ) was born in Tirana, where a Greek community also exists.

As you could saw in the case of Kapino when someone is not ethnically Greek, we have no problem to say it, even though he carries a Greek passport.

Unlike you, we are not obsessed with that.

[safinator]

Although you might don't like the fact, Ninis is from Himara (and grew up in Zakynthos :cool:) , and just in case you are not aware of the demographics of Himara, he is of the Greek minority (or should I say Greek majority in Himara?) there.

Panagiotis Giorgos Kone (how Albanian this name is :lol: ) was born in Tirana, where a Greek community also exists.

As you could saw in the case of Kapino when someone is not ethnically Greek, we have no problem to say it, even though he carries a Greek passport.

Unlike you, we are not obsessed with that.
I'm not obsessed too.
Ninis maybe there's an argument.
Kone is Albanian and you wrote his name in a Greek way.
It would be Panajot Gjergj(National hero name) Kone.
There's no such things as Albanian names, i carry a German name yet i've no ties with Germany, my cousin has a Spanish name is she Spanish?

[Queen B]

I'm not obsessed too.
Ninis maybe there's an argument.
Kone is Albanian and you wrote his name in a Greek way.
It would be Panajot Gjergj(National hero name) Kone.
Lol. Panajot is from Greek Panagiotis, and Gjergj is from Greek Georgos :lol:
And Billy Zane is 100% Greek but his name is Americanized (Vasilis Tzanetakos)
What fits most the country the country that they live, is not strange to happen

As I told you, we no will to make Greek someone that is not. If that was the case, we would make Kapino as well, or many other Albanians that play in Greek football league.

[Peyrol]

Hehehe, first time i've heard such a thing. Come on Parduellio, you can account a few hundreds in a region where live millions. In Portugal you have tenths of thousands (many) :p
Is there a chance that some Portuguese have migrated there?? In my hometown live a few Italian Families although there isn't any important migration route on both directions.

In my hometown (small town) there are some italian families:
Ferrari;
di Paola (headmaster of my daughter school);
Pugliese;
Gavazzi;
Furno (this one is an inmigrant he owns the nicest pizzaria downtown called "O siciliano", he is a friend of mine, he likes red cars and blondes :D
http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/siciliano1.jpg
http://city-of-tomar.com/2011/08/19/great-small-restaurants-in-the-city-of-tomar/

Rivotti (family of musicians, one of them had records at national level);
http://www.myspace.com/jorgerivotti

There is another one but right now I can't remember his family name, and probabily there are others that I do not know. There are a few Silva too, dunno if any are Italians:p


I think here Silva is related to the bush that gives the blackberries (not the phones):D

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/Silvado.jpg

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/Silvado2.jpg


Yes could also be a migration, especially during renaissance where foreigner mercenaries were used by Duchy of Milano and Venetian Republic, but also a common latin root for the word.

[Corvus]

In fact it's amazing that Germany has that much native players in their team, as there are a lot of foreigners in Germany.

Only one player of the first team (Özil) is fully non ethnically german, two others (Kedhira and Boateng) are half-german. The rest is full german (Neuer, Badstuber, Lahm, Höwedes, Schweinsteiger, Müller, Podolski, Klose. Podolski and Klose are not Poles, they are ethnic germans as the descend from the former German-speaking Silesia. Only because this region has been occupied by Poland doesn't make them Polish.

You must be joking. A real nationalist German can never support this team.
It is a multicultural team nowadays. There is hardly any team which can match them regarding this issue.

Personally I very much dislike Khedira and Özil, so they are not an option to support by any means.

[ficuscarica]

Khedira and Özil seem to be arrogant and I don´t know what they really think about Germany. Khedira is half German and half Tunesian by the way, but ironically I have the feeling that the full Turk Özil feels more German than Khedira does.
I have no problems with black players, as long as they view Germany as their country. Just because there is a black player the German people won´t die out...

I would surely kick Podolski out of the team, though, as he identifies with Poland. If someone is not willing to sing the national anthem he is not welcome in the national team. This, not skin color, is the deciding factor for me.

[Peyrol]

I liked the german team of 10-12 years ago, i "loved" so much Oliver Kahn... :D

[Corvus]

Khedira and Özil seem to be arrogant and I don´t know what they really think about Germany. Khedira is half German and half Tunesian by the way, but ironically I have the feeling that the full Turk Özil feels more German than Khedira does.
I have no problems with black players, as long as they view Germany as their country. Just because there is a black player the German people won´t die out...

I would surely kick Podolski out of the team, though, as he identifies with Poland. If someone is not willing to sing the national anthem he is not welcome in the national team. This, not skin color, is the deciding factor for me.

Sami Khedira has a very negative aura and Özil is someone I do not what I want to watch on a football pitch.
If I would be German, I would support them anyway.
As I am not I have the freedom of favouring other teams.

[ficuscarica]

Perduellio, Kahn was a legend, greatest player ever, especially if you look both at skills and the entertainment factor. Football without Kahn is boring. He is a Badener by the way. :D ;)

[ficuscarica]

Sami Khedira has a very negative aura and Özil is someone I do not what I want to watch on a football pitch.
If I would be German, I would support them anyway.
As I am not I have the freedom of favouring other teams.

But Austria is almost like Germany. I would maybe favour Austria if Germany was not in the tournament, and I would surely favour it then, if it was as good as Germany. ;)

[Waidewut]

Football is a boring sport for me and generally not popular here.

[jerney]

Khedira and Özil seem to be arrogant and I don´t know what they really think about Germany. Khedira is half German and half Tunesian by the way, but ironically I have the feeling that the full Turk Özil feels more German than Khedira does.
I have no problems with black players, as long as they view Germany as their country. Just because there is a black player the German people won´t die out...

I would surely kick Podolski out of the team, though, as he identifies with Poland. If someone is not willing to sing the national anthem he is not welcome in the national team. This, not skin color, is the deciding factor for me.

During the 2010 World Cup both Khedira and Özil remained silent during Germany's national anthem. It's a sign of great disrepect towards Germany and in my opinion, it's much more insulting that Khedira (and Boateng) refused this because he's actually half German and raised in Germany. I can understand being a bit confused about your identity, but being disrespectful is another thing. It's also one thing to have one or two black or mixed players that are proud to represent Germany (although obviously preferable to have a 100% native team for each country), but everyone knows that is almost never the case with these individuals.

It just proves once again that exotic unions like these rarely produce an offspring that remains loyal to his birth country. I'd like to see what either of their birth fathers' countries has to offer them.. and when it's realized that it is nothing, I would hope they'd be a little more respectful and not bite the hand that feeds them. I doubt that would happen though

[chaser]

England

[Comte Arnau]

Villa is definitely not playing for Spain next month. He's not 100% yet, so that wouldn't be honest, he said.

[Albion]

Silva is the most common Portuguese surname.

I never did understand why Madeira, Labrador and Azores were given such weird names - they refer to woods, a farmer and a bird right?
In English it'd sound weird if we had an island called "wood", a barren tundra called "farmer" and a set of islands named after a bird. What's it like in Portuguese?

I suppose Spain being named after Hyraxes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyrax#Historical_accounts) is pretty weird too.
Ultimately the name of the tribe we (the English) take our name from may mean something like "Angling (fishing) folk". :p

[Catrau]

I never did understand why Madeira, Labrador and Azores were given such weird names - they refer to woods, a farmer and a bird right?
In English it'd sound weird if we had an island called "wood", a barren tundra called "farmer" and a set of islands named after a bird. What's it like in Portuguese?

I suppose Spain being named after Hyraxes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyrax#Historical_accounts) is pretty weird too.
Ultimately the name of the tribe we (the English) take our name from may mean something like "Angling (fishing) folk". :p

You're right.

About Madeira it's obviously because of the huje amount of that material that was cutted and burned both for raw material and for opening land to farm. Madeira has got this very old kind of moistly subtropical forest called Laurissilva that is endemic of the Macaronesian islands and but Madeira still has the biggest area, by far. It is classified as World Heritage by Unesco and it dates back to the Miocene (about 20 MYOld).

The names Açores (Azores) means literally Goshawk apparently because there were plenty of those there, at least in the first islands that got settlement. Once I heard a nice speculative theory by a local well known historian, he states that the name comes after the word azur (in a med language, french I think) because, at distance those islands looked blue in the horizon for the early med sailors... rubbish.

About Labrador, it was named after the Portuguese sailor that "discovered" it in 1499, his name was João Fernandes Labrador, and yes, labrador means "farmer" in english.

[Vasconcelos]

I never did understand why Madeira, Labrador and Azores were given such weird names - they refer to woods, a farmer and a bird right?
In English it'd sound weird if we had an island called "wood", a barren tundra called "farmer" and a set of islands named after a bird. What's it like in Portuguese?

Yes, those guys were never very creative with names...
Madeira - probably because there was a lot of wood on the islands.
Azores - bird commonly found there.
Labrador - the guy was named Lavrador, so the region was named after him, much like America was named after Americo.
Brazil - named after 'brasil wood', also common in the country.

Check out the islands of Azores, they have some interesting names aswell, for example Terceira - it means literally 'third'....because it was the third one to be found. :rolleyes:

[Grizzly]

I don't understand the German bashing. Overwhelming majority of their squad is White or German. They just have a few non europeans on that team and they aren't even good(besides Ozil). Boateng, Khedira and that brazilian striker can be easily replaced..

There's tons of German talent on that team something England, France and other European teams should follow in pursuit. France should just abandon all of the African players as they are all malcontents who don't give a shit about the team. Look at the 2010 WC where the mongrels led a revolt on their head coach..

[Leliana]

I read Jerome Boateng, Özil, Khedira, Cacau, some Turk called Gündugan and then Aogo were on the team still. Even if Aogo is not, even one Turkish or black/African-derived player is one too many.
Aogo is out and Cacau and Gündogan are in the current expanded team for the Euro 2012 only. Joachim Löw has to cross four players out of the expanded team in the coming days. Cacau and Gündogan are the two main candidates who could be crossed out. And if not they won't make it in the start formation: Cacau is outshined by Klose, Gomez and Götze and Gündogan is the last choice in our defensive line.

I don't like Khedira, Özil and Boateng. :( We have better wholy German players on the bank but Löw isn't going to use them in the start formation.

[Vasconcelos]

There's also Mario Gomez, who is a Spanish-German born in Baden (I think).

[Corvus]

There's also Mario Gomez, who is a Spanish-German born in Baden (I think).

He is allright. No complaints against him.

[Leliana]

There's also Mario Gomez, who is a Spanish-German born in Baden (I think).
Yes but he's half German and half Spanish, was born in Germany and identifies with Germany. He's outright European and no big deal. :) He got the blue eyes of his mother, I think.

http://mediadb.kicker.de/2010/fussball/spieler/xl/29909_14.jpg

Özil, Khedira and Boateng are the problems in our national team.

[Vasconcelos]

Yes but he's half German and half Spanish, was born in Germany and identifies with Germany. He's outright European and no big deal. :) Özil, Khedira and Boateng are the problems in our national team.

Yes, of course, I would have the same opinion if I were German, I was just pointing it out in case someone didn't know. :)

[jerney]

Yes, of course, I would have the same opinion if I were German, I was just pointing it out in case someone didn't know. :)

The name is kind of a dead give away ;)

[Vasconcelos]

The name is kind of a dead give away ;)

True, but some people might not know the German squad ;)

PS: I hope he gets injuried and misses the first match

[Damião de Góis]

I don't like Khedira, Özil and Boateng. :( We have better wholy German players on the bank but Löw isn't going to use them in the start formation.

Yes he has turkish ancestry, is immigrant descended and shouldn't play for Germany ideally. But he's a damn good footballer and i doubt you have someone better if we speak strickly about football. :p

[iNird]

Yes he has turkish ancestry, is immigrant descended and shouldn't play for Germany ideally. But he's a damn good footballer and i doubt you have someone better if we speak strickly about football. :p

Not only that but Ozil is a 3rd Generation Turk, I doubt he can even speak Turkish.

[jerney]

Not only that but Ozil is a 3rd Generation Turk, I doubt he can even speak Turkish.

So? He's still not German and shouldn't represent the team.

[iNird]

So? He's still not German and shouldn't represent the team.

I think he should play for Turkey as well but I don't think Ozil being on the team is that bad. It's not like he was born in Turkey and raised there. Ozil a 3rd generation Turk and he probably has more in common with a German than a Turk. I bet some Turks see him more as a German than a Turk.

[Corvus]

I think he should play for Turkey as well but I don't think Ozil being on the team is that bad. It's not like he was born in Turkey and raised there. Ozil a 3rd generation Turk and he probably has more in common with a German than a Turk. I bet some Turks see him more as a German than a Turk.

You are wrong. Özil more than once mentioned that his childhood dream has been to represent Turkey and only because the German federation reacted faster that the Turkish one and persuaded them to play for Germany he is now a member of the squad.
Once you play for a nation you cannot change and play for another one later.

And I think his Turkish is more fluent than his German

[Damião de Góis]

His german is not fluent?

JBFGloDyj70

[Leliana]

His german is not fluent?

JBFGloDyj70

He speaks with Turkish accent. Not with a strong accent but it's remarkable and striking.

[Hayalet]

Not only that but Ozil is a 3rd Generation Turk, I doubt he can even speak Turkish.
Actually, his Turkish seems pretty good:

CLVSkNlR-5E

[Corvus]

Actually, his Turkish seems pretty good:

CLVSkNlR-5E

So my allegation is right, his Turkish is better than his German

[Leliana]

So my allegation is right, his Turkish is better than his German
His father is a prototype Turk, no wonder.

http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/oezil_21975683_q-18807214/2,h%3D343.bild.jpg

http://www.rund-magazin.de/uploads/images/am_ball/alles/mesut.jpg

Typical for Muslim cultures there's no photo of his mother available. Women don't exist in Islam. :rolleyes2: Özil should play for Turkey and that's where he belongs to. He's a disgrace for our national team!

[Mistic]

England team haven't done very well for the past few years. They didn't have much confidence at the previous World Cup.

Boostin' their morale with support here.

[Corvus]

England team haven't done very well for the past few years. They didn't have much confidence at the previous World Cup.

Boostin' their morale with support here.

I like them too. So England deserves my support :thumb001:

[aeiou]

But Austria is almost like Germany. I would maybe favour Austria if Germany was not in the tournament, and I would surely favour it then, if it was as good as Germany. ;)

In fact I do feel german (Austria belongs to the German Nation), so for me supporting the German team is just as normal as supporting the Austrian team.

Even if they had unsympathic players I couldn't help supporting them. ;)

[Nurzat]

i am a long time fan of germany but i can't get used to their turko-african look of the last years. nothing against those playes but each should play for his nation - the same as strange would be a german playing for cameroon... so it's no anti-european thought, it's just that it doesn't feel or look right to see all kind of albanian, bosniak, african, maghrebi, turkish players in the national teams of the germanic countries. netherlands disappointed me too on this regard (i did accept the surinamese players and they share culturally a lotmore with the netherlands than the newly came maghrebis).

at least at national level the nationality, not citizenship, should prevail

i support ukraine and after that maybe denmark, they seem a healthy native group :)

[SKYNET]

Netherlands, England and Ireland.

[Nurzat]

Netherlands, England and Ireland.

they show european football in chechnya? :D i suppose you couldn't support russia

[SKYNET]

they show european football in chechnya? :D i suppose you couldn't support russia


nope, I live in the EU. I can say that Russians are best players in the sport, but I love western countries so more than I ever thought :)

[Catrau]

3 africans (14, 18, 19).
1 brazilian (3)
1/2 brazilian (2)
1 gipsy (10)
17 Portuguese

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/SelaoPT.jpg

[сварог]

Well, I support the Czechs, however I don't believe they'll make it beyond the group phase.

[Vasconcelos]

3 africans (14, 18, 19).
1 brazilian (3)
1/2 brazilian (2)
1 gipsy (10)
17 Portuguese

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/SelaoPT.jpg

13 is mixed, and don't forget Nani, whose number is blocked by Rúben Micael's head (15).

[Damião de Góis]

13 is mixed, and don't forget Nani, whose number is blocked by Rúben Micael's head (15).

I think he put 19 by mistake and meant to put Nani.

[Vasconcelos]

I think he put 19 by mistake and meant to put Nani.

Yea, don't even know who 19 is :embarrassed

[Damião de Góis]

Yea, don't even know who 19 is :embarrassed

It's Miguel Lopes. His presence shows how weak our team is in comparison:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7tsmgYAv2ao/Rvw0LOZf76I/AAAAAAAAEX8/Azmw981DAbU/s1600/2000%2BEuropeu.jpg

[Vasconcelos]

It's Miguel Lopes. His presence shows how weak our team is

Ah yes, of course. He's not that bad, sometimes these "new" players bring extra motivation to the team. We'll need to wait and see..

[Rron]

http://www.aasportsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Italy-Euro-2012-Squad-and-Player-List.jpg

[The Lively Rock]

So my allegation is right, his Turkish is better than his German

He has an accent in Turkish. I bet his German is better, which is said to have an accent, too, though not so strong. Although i can't say i am as good in german as i am in English and Turkish..


Özil should play for Turkey and that's where he belongs to. He's a disgrace for our national team!
No offense, i am just saying, why so racist ?
Guy was born in Germany, speaks German pretty good, okay not a crystal clear accent maybe but you should at least respect the work the guy does.
I mean if i was from any country, say "Canada" and Ozil was a Canadian citizen i would definitely be for the idea he plays for us.
Because he's good.
But in this case, maybe you would bring up ideas such as, "He wasn't brought up with a European culture", that could make sense in your point of view.

[Meerkat.86]

I usually don't watch soccer, except during World Cup... but I always support Italy.

[The Lively Rock]

I usually don't watch soccer, except during World Cup... but I always support Italy.

They are said to have boring soccer, hehe, always defensive you know

[Rron]

Italy invent defense tactic called catenaccio which is very successful , and used by many times lately.

[Peyrol]

Italy-Russia 0-3

Prandelli epic fail.

[Rastko]

Italy-Russia 0-3

Prandelli epic fail.

Yeah,but you Italians always have luck in the tournaments.

[Vasconcelos]

Italy-Russia 0-3

Prandelli epic fail.

Russia is very strong at the moment, I have a feeling they will dominate Group A.

[Corvus]

Ukraine and Czech Republic have few support here on TA.

Ukraine lost against Austria yesterday
Czechs were defeated by the Hungarians

So this is not a good Omen for the forthcoming tournament.

[Damião de Góis]

Italy-Russia 0-3

Prandelli epic fail.

Italy is in a transitional period in my opinion. They don't have the classy players that they used to. For example the defense doesn't have anyone worthy of be compared to Baresi, Costacurta, Nesta, Cannavaro.
The midfield still has Pirlo but he's 33 now. And the attack doesn't have the quality of other times. There is no Baggio, Del Piero, Mancini, Vialli, etc. Italian club teams haven't done well in Europe either like they used to.

[Rron]

Italy is in a transitional period in my opinion. They don't have the classy players that they used to. For example the defense doesn't have anyone worthy of be compared to Baresi, Costacurta, Nesta, Cannavaro.
The midfield still has Pirlo but he's 33 now. And the attack doesn't have the quality of other times. There is no Baggio, Del Piero, Mancini, Vialli, etc. Italian club teams haven't done well in Europe either like they used to.
Generation must be changed ,they cant think always for that period of their ''dream team'' to not mention that even if they would be in team they probably wouldnt do anything ,today football need another quality because fooball in tecnical and tactical sense differentiate alot

[Leliana]

Our German team isn't in a good form. The last two test matches were horrible! We had a 3:5 defeat against Switzerland and a boring 2:0 against Israel.

I'm afraid that we drop out after the group stage! :( :033102st: Listen to my words! Portugal and Holland will advance to the next round.

[Vasconcelos]

Our German team isn't in a good form. The last two test matches were horrible! We had a 3:5 defeat against Switzerland and a boring 2:0 against Israel.

I'm afraid that we drop out after the group stage! :( :033102st: Listen to my words! Portugal and Holland will advance to the next round.

Don't worry yourself too much with pre-Euro Cup matches, the team is more worried about getting physically fit, getting the players getting used to playing with each other and working with certain tactics/movements. Portugal also played miserably against Macedonia.

I still think Germany will easily beat Portugal on the 9th.

[Damião de Góis]

Our German team isn't in a good form. The last two test matches were horrible! We had a 3:5 defeat against Switzerland and a boring 2:0 against Israel.

I'm afraid that we drop out after the group stage! :( :033102st: Listen to my words! Portugal and Holland will advance to the next round.

I think Germany played those matches without the Bayern Munich players, who make the backbone of the starting lineup.

[felix1991]

Germany

[Graham]

https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/208956751821803521

hehe xD

[Jack B]

I believe Frankies mission is to be hated by every group at some point in his life lol

[Damião de Góis]

I am currently watching a pathetic display at home against Turkey. We are losing 1-2 at the moment.

[Vasconcelos]

I am currently watching a pathetic display at home against Turkey. We are losing 1-2 at the moment.

Too much slacking, if they keep on playing like this we're in for a terrible Euro Cup.

[Damião de Góis]

Too much slacking, if they keep on playing like this we're in for a terrible Euro Cup.

Did you watch the two chances Hugo Almeida had on his left foot? He refused to shoot on both of them, 1st he tried to move the ball to his right foot and the 2nd time he gave up on shooting altogether and tried to pass the ball. He was completely alone in front of goal on both times.

Really, is this the best forward we have?

[Vasconcelos]

Did you watch the two chances Hugo Almeida had on his left foot? He refused to shoot on both of them, 1st he tried to move the ball to his right foot and the 2nd time he gave up on shooting altogether and tried to pass the ball. He was completely alone in front of goal on both times.

Really, is this the best forward we have?

We have foward players? I didn't know we had any since Pauleta retired! :D

[Vasconcelos]

Ok, that's settled, I'm NOT going to buy a Portuguese jersey.

[Supreme American]

Which country actually has players from that country? I pick that one.

[Midori]

Which country actually has players from that country? I pick that one.

All of the have players from their country, but I think only Greece doesn't have any foreigners in their team.

[Contusion]

The Dutch are just too strong all around. My money will be on the Netherlands. No really, I have big money on the dutch!

[Mesrine]

France, my country, and the Netherlands, for their style. Always been a fan of the Dutch school.

[Comte Arnau]

:worried1:

http://oi50.tinypic.com/29popdz.jpg

[Leliana]

I have the feeling that Portugal is going to win the match against our team. :( Löw's team is out of form.

My tip: 0:2 but I hope I'm wrong.

[Aces High]

Ill be supporting the team that didnt make the trip to Auschwitz.

[sturmwalkure]

Ill be supporting the team that didnt make the trip to Auschwitz.

:dielaughing:

[Leliana]

Ill be supporting the team that didnt make the trip to Auschwitz.
3 out of 23 went to Ausschwitz.

[Vasconcelos]

I have the feeling that Portugal is going to win the match against our team. :( Löw's team is out of form.

My tip: 0:2 but I hope I'm wrong.

Yea I think 2-0 is correct, but it's Germany who's going to win. Portuguese team is a mess and lost 3-1 to Turkey a few days ago. And they deserved it, too many flaws.

[aimar]

I don't support anyone, Portuguese team is full of foreigners

[Rouxinol]

:worried1:

http://oi50.tinypic.com/29popdz.jpg

That's a montage, but I could only agree if more people would take that stance of que se foda a Selecção. Too much noise for a bunch of million-euros winning guys who run after a ball when there are millions across Europe who can barely afford to buy themselves food after paying their taxes or are jobless... It's irrational.

[Vasconcelos]

BTW if Portugal fails to pass the group stage (which it will), I hope that Greece manages to beat whoever they face from group B.

[Comte Arnau]

That's a montage, but I could only agree if more people would take that stance of que se foda a Selecção. Too much noise for a bunch of million-euros winning guys who run after a ball when there are millions across Europe who can barely afford to buy themselves food after paying their taxes or are jobless... It's irrational.

I agree. Guardiola once said that Messi winning less woud run all the same, and I agree. (I wouldn't be so sure about Cristiano, though :D) The ones who really love the sport want to play all the matches. They should all certainly win less, specially in times like this. Although when much of the income of elite stars come from publicity and private companies, not much can be done.

[Paluga]

Every country with no foreigners in their team.

[Mistic]

Can I change my vote?

[Corraidh]

Ireland.

[Lars]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8153/7138376331_d8d825a2cf_b.jpg

Wrong team. Same country.

[Patches]

England.

[Corvus]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8153/7138376331_d8d825a2cf_b.jpg

Wrong team. Same country.

Good looking bunch :thumb001:

[Rastko]

Ill be supporting the team that didnt make the trip to Auschwitz.

Croatian football association refused to go in Oswienczin but they will take trip to Katyn.:thumb001:

By the way,did anyone noticed UEFA Respect commercial?

It is horrific.

Something like this but even worse:

aXv97QQDlS8

[Raikaswinþs]

lol @ Graham : anybody but England :D

I support Spain, Portugal and Poland.

I think France, Portugal and Italy will be the underdogs

unsurprisingly Germany has everybody faping about...

but quien ríe el último, ríe mejor

[SKYNET]

Russian hooligans are beating Stewart Euro 2012 Wroclaw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rOm4IN1G9yU

[Rereg]

It is horrific.

Something like this but even worse:

aXv97QQDlS8

sS1O548a4rQ

Music video made by Oceana is even worse. Total shit. :mad:

[curiousman]

Croatian football association refused to go in Oswienczin but they will take trip to Katyn.:thumb001:



:thumb001:

[curiousman]

I give my vote to Trapattoni, so to Ireland, but I'm not really a football fan.

[Rastko]

Anyways...

http://www.vecernji.hr/data/slika/108/535711.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/560615_359048624162556_567447153_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/301829_359026060831479_1333843383_n.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-7ov8ef.gif

From Russia with love.

[Rastko]

Greece:

http://www.easilysharing.com/images/77969759475434758318.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/6dwe1hctjp6.jpg

Poland:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2iggb5u.jpg

http://s13.postimage.org/6q0yg5oiv/fan1_tumblr_m5br0r_Kf_HN1qierwqo4_250.jpg

[aimar]

Spanish fan found murdered in Ukraine

A Spanish football fan was found murdered nearly a month after going missing in the small town of Makeyevka in the Donetsk region, local media reported on Saturday.

Local police had launched a search for the 46-year-old man - who was holidaying in the region ahead of Euro 2012 - after staff at the hotel he was staying in in Makeyevka reported him missing.

According to reports police have detained three men suspected of murdering him.

Holders Spain are based in Poland and play their first match of the tournament on Sunday in Gdansk.

http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/news/spanish-fan-found-murdered-ukraine-090058543--sow.html

[exceeder]

I support 4 teams mainly, but particularly the first two in bold!

1) Poland
2) France
3) Greece
4) Italy

[Foxy]

Like always:
1. Italy
2. Germany

(and support France in losing) :P

[Ausência Forçada]

sS1O548a4rQ

Music video made by Oceana is even worse. Total shit. :mad:

Its disgusting, the UEFA multiculturalist propaganda, hope that wins an team that plays only with NATIVE origin people...

The "portuguese" (inter)national team has at least 6 or 7 non natives playing, thats not Portugal, Pepe (http://www.abola.pt/img/fotos/seleccao/2012/pepe1.jpg), Bruno Alves (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6SMKTEuTVRI/TzwC09oBGVI/AAAAAAAABJY/N2YLiZQs86I/s1600/16647_ori_bruno_alves.jpg)Varela (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ChkjImh2LZA/Sq0VZkeAQAI/AAAAAAAADys/fZHLIS6_DXk/s400/varela1.jpg), Rolando (http://imgs.sapo.pt/gfx/524887.gif), Nani (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MrxGo0Tdk0U/Taw4W-BA7tI/AAAAAAAACZY/bRPr0Rbr70M/s1600/Nani.jpg), Ricardo Costa (http://www.zecadiabo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/RicardoCosta_1429733.jpg)...

ridiculous... now even Italy has 2 non europeans.:mad:

[exceeder]

Like always:
1. Italy
2. Germany

(and support France in losing) :P

#DISLIKE!!!! Grrr :shakefist

[Aces High]

Well Holland were shit..very dissapointing.

Now the only thing we have to look forward to is an even worse display from England.

[Comte Arnau]

Bravo for Danmark!!

[Olika]

I support:
1.Russia
2.Germany
3.Ukraine
4.Spain

[horizontick]

most likely we will not go out in the eighth finals, but we just have to humiliate the Poles in their own home! If that happens, I'll be happy to read Polish newspapers (Gazeta Wyborcza )(and the comments of angry Poles in these papers, experiencing an orgasm at the same time).:D

[Raikaswinþs]

You gotta love apricians. They will brag about how "oh so white and pure" they are, how the slightest sunray will burn their delicate white skin. How they are all about ethnic nationalism,and preservation of the european "subraces" (yeah, I know but...I guess to them it has some meaning). They display a passion about everything nazi and german. They deny or question the holocaust and justify Breivik's Norwegian teenage massacre. They are antisemitics (in a borderline schizoid way, everything is "ze joos' fault" ) and anti muslims, anti immigrants, and many of them hate themselves so much that will go as far as saying that no matter how tiny your non european admixture is, it still pretty much ruins your claim of being "white" (whatever that means to them)

There are even some hilarious fucking wogs (mostly females) , that are so ridiculously self depreciating that will go as far as to denying their own physical appearance, and going batshit crazy if you dare to say that they look exactly what they are. This aryan-loving , permanently-tanned, jet-black haired , almond faced nutbags are really unbelievable.

But possibbly the funniest thing of all, is that the current European champions, a team composed by 100% native Europeans with not a single non native on their ranks, precisely in this board, receives less one third!!(8 vs 28) of the supporters than a team that is made basically of turks, poles and north african untermensch and who's main goalscorer is a guy called Mario Gomez.

You people, seriously, are a twisted bunch. I think I'm going back to check that thread in which one of these "concerned" ladies asks south Europeans if they find it hard to be borderline "whites". lol

[Leliana]

Uhm, you sound butthurt!? :rolleyes2: My country is still my country, full stop. I'll support my nation. And it's not 'full of Turks, North Africans and Poles', don't exaggerate! :stop Mario Gomez has a German mother and there are three Non-Europeans in the team with Özil, Khedira and Boateng. That's not the full team but a minority. I regret that we have no complete ethnic German team but we have to live with it for now.

Of the players who played today were fully German: Neuer, Badstuber, Hummels, Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Kroos and Müller.

The Portuguese team had more Black players, and some of their substitution players who joined the match later were Black too. :1099:

[Dacul]

Russia and Ukraine and Sweden!
Because those are not in NATO.

[Damião de Góis]

The Portuguese team had more Black players, and some of their substitution players who joined the match later were Black too. :1099:

You mean Varela? He almost scored :D

http://www.zerozero.pt/img/jogadores/47/16147_ori_varela.jpg

[Leliana]

You mean Varela? He almost scored :D

http://www.zerozero.pt/img/jogadores/47/16147_ori_varela.jpg

Yes. :eek: Do you understand now what I meant when I said that our team isn't in good shape and form? I didn't say it without reason. We are no favorite because the team is in a negative phase and no one knows why.

Portugal was the better team today and deserved at least one goal! We had the luck. But if our team doesn't improve we will lose heavy against Holland and have a tight fight against Denmark. We could reach the quarter finals or the semi finals now because group A isn't very strong but I don't think that we will reach the final with such bad gameplay.

[Turkophagos]

lol at the "group of death" and its teams.


We can beat any of these teams in the quarter-finals and Russians will qualify for sure against them.

[Damião de Góis]

Yes. :eek: Do you understand now what I meant when I said that our team isn't in good shape and form? I didn't say it without reason. We are no favorite because the team is in a negative phase and no one knows why.

Portugal was the better team today and deserved at least one goal! We had the luck. But if our team doesn't improve we will lose heavy against Holland and have a tight fight against Denmark. We could reach the quarter finals or the semi finals now because group A isn't very strong but I don't think that we will reach the final with such bad gameplay.

I confess i was wrong about our team and they surprised me. I thought Germany would trash them easily with 3 goals. But in my opinion Germany is still favourite to win the group and certainly one of the favourites to win the tournament.
We might qualify in 2nd if we play well in the next two games, but it will be difficult.

[Grizzly]

lol at the "group of death" and its teams.


We can beat any of these teams in the quarter-finals and Russians will qualify for sure against them.

No you can't and this isn't an insult to Greece. Greece couldn't defeat a lackluster Polish side, how will they manage against the Germans or the Dutch? They simply have way too many attacking options and will break the bunker defense of the Greeks. Greece also doesn't have the quality in the final third to compete with the elite teams and put pressure on them.

I wouldn't write off the Netherlands off just yet. The manager needs to get away from that defensive lineup(that I predicted) and put in the attackers and earn the points. They are in no position right now to play defensive ball with that horrible result and will have to earn atleast 4 points for a chance to advance.

[Contusion]

I confess i was wrong about our team and they surprised me. I thought Germany would trash them easily with 3 goals. But in my opinion Germany is still favourite to win the group and certainly one of the favourites to win the tournament.
We might qualify in 2nd if we play well in the next two games, but it will be difficult.

It was a good game. The Germans needed to start the tournament off strong though, they needed that win. They're playing under some serious pressure. Portugal surprised me too. There is no shame in the way they played today.

As for the Dutch though....wtf :confused:

[Rastko]

http://i.imgur.com/0Z77j.gif

Denmark :)

[Corvus]

I confess i was wrong about our team and they surprised me. I thought Germany would trash them easily with 3 goals. But in my opinion Germany is still favourite to win the group and certainly one of the favourites to win the tournament.
We might qualify in 2nd if we play well in the next two games, but it will be difficult.

The performance was not as brilliant as expected, but thanks to Mario Gomez
and Manuel Neuer we managed to claim 3 points, which is the most important thing.
Today I am going to support Italy. I am aware that their lineup cannot be compared with the German one in terms of class and skills, but maybe they can compensate their lack of individal strenght by fighting spirit and determination.
Forza Italia

[Damião de Góis]

I don't usually say this, but today go Spain!

Spain - Italy 3-0
Ireland - Croatia 1-2

[Lena]

Today I support Croatia :thumb001:

Benefit: if you guys lose you can always blame me, not your team :p

[Duke]

Today I support Croatia :thumb001:

Benefit: if you guys lose you can always blame me, not your team :p

joooj, nemoj da nan budeš pegula, niti slučajno, da se nisi usudila!

[Lena]

joooj, nemoj da nan budeš pegula, niti slučajno, da se nisi usudila!

Sta je pegula :confused: ?
Ma opusteno, dobicete ih :wink

[Sultan Suleiman]

Šta je sa ovom opsjednutosti nogošutom ovdje?

[Duke]

Sta je pegula :confused: ?
Ma opusteno, dobicete ih :wink

nesrića, peh...


Only bummer in this really is that we play with our brothers Irish :(

[Lena]

nesrića, peh...



LOL! Nista onda, povlacim javnu podrsku :D

[Turkophagos]

I don't usually say this, but today go Spain!

Spain - Italy 3-0
Ireland - Croatia 1-2



My prediction for today:

Spain - Italy 0-1


Ireland - Croatia 1-0

[Damião de Góis]

My prediction for today:

Spain - Italy 0-1


Ireland - Croatia 1-0

Unlikely for Italy given their team and current form, but let's wait and see.

[Turkophagos]

Croatia has great players and in their good days they can destroy any team, but they have so many ups and downs while the Irish team are always a pain in the ass to beat. I have a feeling Ireland will win today.

[Vasconcelos]

Spain 3 - 1 Italy
Ireland 2 - 0 Croatia

[Joseph Czeszyk]

Poland

[Catrau]

Well, well. What a waste that "fail" against Germany.

I sincerely felt we did well. There was only a goal missing.
We had to respect Germany but exactly when I was expecting to see Portugal "grow" we got that lousy Goal...

We will see, we did better than I wasexpecting, even with that defeat. We are still a great team and if I correctly recall, the only time we didn't passed the group phase was in Mexico 86, even with a win in the first game against England (!). And we've loosed the first game before and still passed the group stage rigth to the final.

I have faith, we will overcome Denmark and get into a crescendo for the next games, as it should be.


FAITH
LUCK (the one that was missing with Germany)
HARDWORK
http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/Selecao.jpg

Godspeed for Wednesday clash against Denmark, doing as we know, we can win anyone.

[Vasconcelos]

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/Selecao.jpg

Oh my God, what is Hélder Postiga doing in there?

[poiuytrewq0987]

http://rapid-croatia.com/images/smilies/853c92e0.gif

3-1 Croatia and Ireland! :D

[Rereg]

Croats destroy Irish. :D

[Catrau]

Oh my God, what is Hélder Postiga doing in there?

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/Selecao.jpg


Hard working Soldier!
I'm not a big fan of Postiga but I belive that he would never miss that Varela oportunity to score... that was a really lousy miss.

[Turkophagos]

Ronaldo for Forward/Striker in a 4-3-3 formation and Portugal can make it to the final.

[Kadu]

Ronaldo for Forward/Striker in a 4-3-3 formation and Portugal can make it to the final.

That's a very good idea, the truth is that we don't play well with lone strikers.

[Vasconcelos]

That's a very good idea, the truth is that we don't play well with lone strikers.

Because we have no good one.

[Kadu]

Because we have no good one.

Even when we had a good one, e.g. Pauleta, the undisputed top scorer of the French league for several seasons and yet he wouldn't score a single goal for the Portuguese national team. The fact is that Pauleta could only fit in a 4-4-2 scheme with a trequartista behind and never with a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 with two wingers.

[Catrau]

Even when we had a good one, e.g. Pauleta, the undisputed top scorer of the French league for several seasons and yet he wouldn't score a single goal for the Portuguese national team. The fact is that Pauleta could only fit in a 4-4-2 scheme with a trequartista behind and never with a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 with two wingers.

I would go for a Cristiano-Nani tendem as a spear for the danish Goal, especially with those slow central defenders.

[Jack B]

Well, that was shit!

Congrats Croatia :thumb001: