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Pecheneg
05-19-2012, 03:50 PM
The Crimean Tatars are descendants of the various Turkic peoples who inhabited the Crimean peninsula and its surroundings. The most notable ones of these Turkic peoples were Kumans-Kypchaks and Nogai Horde. Crimean Tatars emerged as a nation at the time of the Crimean Khanate, Crimean Khanate was a Turkic state which was among the strongest powers in Eastern Europe until the beginning of the 18th century. The Crimean Khans were direct descendants of Genghis Khan.


Some celebrities of Crimean Tatar origin.

Cüneyt Arkın
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İlhan Mansız
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İlber Ortaylı
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Yalın
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Pecheneg
05-19-2012, 03:59 PM
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Hurrem sultana
05-19-2012, 04:01 PM
some of them look pure asian,some of them pure european

meaning they are heavily mixed people

Pecheneg
05-19-2012, 04:03 PM
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Pecheneg
05-19-2012, 04:05 PM
some of them look pure asian,some of them pure european
None of them look "pure asian".



meaning they are heavily mixed people
Meaning they are "Eurasians".

StonyArabia
05-19-2012, 04:12 PM
The Tatar ruling class, outbred their Mongoloid lines by taking Circassian brides.

Pecheneg
05-19-2012, 04:27 PM
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Pecheneg
05-19-2012, 06:09 PM
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Flintlocke
05-19-2012, 06:15 PM
What's their population number?

Pecheneg
05-19-2012, 06:17 PM
What's their population number?
in ukraine (Autonomous Republic of Crimea); ~250.000
in Turkey, there are millions of crimean Tatars.
in central asia (Uzbekistan); ~200.000
in Russia; ~100.000
in Romania; ~25.000

Onur
05-19-2012, 07:05 PM
What's their population number?
Maybe you don't even know but there are Crimean Tatars in Greece too. Some of them expelled out from Crimea during 1860-70s and some expelled out by Stalin.

They are known as Urums. They are orthodox christians and they gradually migrated to Greece between 1920-1950s. Around 50k of them settled in Greece. Most of the so-called Greeks of Crimea, Georgia, Ukraine were Turks, their sole connection with Greeks was being adhere to Istanbul patriarchy since 15-16th century.

Pecheneg
05-20-2012, 01:33 PM
Most of the so-called Greeks of Crimea, Georgia, Ukraine were Turks, their sole connection with Greeks was being adhere to Istanbul patriarchy since 15-16th century.
Just like the orthodox people of north east anatolia.

purple
05-20-2012, 01:35 PM
Brothers!!!! They are not Turkish!!!

Pecheneg
05-20-2012, 01:51 PM
Brothers!!!! They are not Turkish!!!
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wrong.
They are Crimean Tatars, the subgroup of the Turks of Turkey.
The Turks of Turkey are descendants of the various Turkic groups. Such as the "Balkan Turk, Karachay, Balkar, Nogai, Tatar, Karapapak, Azeri, Turkmen, Manav, Yörük, Tahtacı, Avshar Turk, Terekeme etc..." all of them are Turks (Turkish). Crimean Tatars are just one of these subgroups.
Turkic Nations/Languages - family tree
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Siberian Cold Breeze
05-21-2012, 07:15 PM
I had lots of Tatar friends in my childhood city because many tatar families lives there some of them have really interesting looks .My friends father had sky blue monolid eyes ,some of them were blond,some looked more asian .Their names/family names were nice too reminder of their tribal names i remember Kıpçak ,Kapçak ,Argun,Kırım ..I love their food ,yummy

Do you have çibörek destanı? :D
Çibörek is good for anything,

Don't forget Lipka Tatars of Poland and Lithuanian Karaims

@tu_veneno Tatars in Turkey are Turkish .

Onur
05-21-2012, 11:27 PM
Tatars in Turkey are Turkish .
Actually, Tatars are northwestern Turks while the Turks of Anatolia are southwestern Turks but our dialects are close to each other, so both groups mingled within each other for centuries and mixing was always common between us. They just use a different dialect than us but it takes no more than few months to get accustomed to it for both sides.

It`s like someone from Vienna migrating to Berlin and speak/act like Berliners in short time. It can be that nice and easy.

Pecheneg
05-22-2012, 11:41 AM
Actually, Tatars are northwestern Turks while the Turks of Anatolia are southwestern Turks but our dialects are close to each other, so both groups mingled within each other for centuries and mixing was always common between us. They just use a different dialect than us but it takes no more than few months to get accustomed to it for both sides.

It`s like someone from Vienna migrating to Berlin and speak/act like Berliners in short time. It can be that nice and easy.
Especially the Yalıboyu Tatars. Their dialect is something between Oghuz and Kypchak. Even some linguists consider their dialect as Oghuz.

Proto-Shaman
02-13-2013, 02:27 PM
Kirimoglu in his younger years:
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RussiaPrussia
02-13-2013, 03:41 PM
some of them look pure asian,some of them pure european

meaning they are heavily mixed people

yeah many slavics

Proto-Shaman
02-13-2013, 08:27 PM
Traditional dressed Tatar girls from, Crimea (today Ukraine, Bahcesaray)
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yeah many slavics
= Kipchak

Bobby Six Killer
02-20-2013, 07:14 AM
I always found tatar women quite interesting

http://galeri4.uludagsozluk.com/102/tatar-kizlari_147638.jpg

Proto-Shaman
03-06-2013, 01:30 PM
Tatars at Sabantuy Festival:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z34WAkUUs0

Siberian Cold Breeze
03-12-2013, 04:16 AM
It is funny that Russians embraced their own Tatar look too much they think its a part of Slavic look and they think Tatars look Slavic, but actually not..
only they are heavily mixed with Tatars themselves..:)

Arbërori
03-12-2013, 04:35 AM
It is funny that Russians embraced their own Tatar look too much they think its a part of Slavic look and they think Tatars look Slavic, but actually not..
only they are heavily mixed with Tatars themselves..:)

Some indeed do, while Russians most definitely do not look Turkish/Turkic.

Sarmatian
03-12-2013, 04:38 AM
It is funny that Russians embraced their own Tatar look too much they think its a part of Slavic look and they think Tatars look Slavic, but actually not..
only they are heavily mixed with Tatars themselves..:)

Oh really? Do you have any evidence to support such a claim? And by evidence I mean something more solid than that 'Scratch a Russian and you'll find a Tatar' crap vomited by some French retard.

Pontios
03-12-2013, 04:40 AM
One could ask, are Azerbaijanis russian and turkish or what? They claim there Russian, yet they speak Russian and Turkish, wtf

Onur
03-12-2013, 11:38 AM
It is funny that Russians embraced their own Tatar look too much they think its a part of Slavic look and they think Tatars look Slavic, but actually not..

only they are heavily mixed with Tatars themselves..:)
This is exactly the case in Russia.

They absorbed 10s of millions of Tatars during late Tsarist and Soviet era, now they think like Tatars have a typical Russian look :)

archangel
03-12-2013, 11:41 AM
lol vast majority of russians are either Türkic or finno ugric,we can say taht russıans from north west russia heavily finno ugric in genetics,while those from ural and other parts of the region is Türkic

Proto-Shaman
03-12-2013, 01:18 PM
Oh really? Do you have any evidence to support such a claim? And by evidence I mean something more solid than that 'Scratch a Russian and you'll find a Tatar' crap vomited by some French retard.
This was said by Putin himself. Furthermore its a common saying in Russia.

Arbërori
03-12-2013, 04:32 PM
This is exactly the case in Russia.

They absorbed 10s of millions of Tatars during late Tsarist and Soviet era, now they think like Tatars have a typical Russian look :)

Absorbing is not the same as Russification, I doubt Russians would want a Turkic element to them. :wink
Speaking of absorbing, you know damn well who you absorbed in Turkey, Bulgarian in denial.

Sky earth
03-12-2013, 04:52 PM
Most Crimean Tatars live in Turkey right?

Pecheneg
03-12-2013, 05:15 PM
Most Crimean Tatars live in Turkey right?
That's right.

Proto-Shaman
03-12-2013, 07:18 PM
Most Crimean Tatars live in Turkey right?
One of them is my father.

Siberian Cold Breeze
03-12-2013, 07:21 PM
Was?

So you lost him? I am so sorry if its true :(

Proto-Shaman
03-12-2013, 09:25 PM
Was?

So you lost him? I am so sorry if its true :(
no :D I mean my fathers forebearers xD sorry for my english... sometimes i switch into german way of thinking.

Siberian Cold Breeze
03-12-2013, 09:39 PM
ahahaa sevindim o zaman ..

Sarmatian
03-13-2013, 04:14 PM
This was said by Putin himself. Furthermore its a common saying in Russia.

Since when Putin is a viable source in anthropological discussions? And trust me, this saying is not very common and in some places you can get beaten for saying such a nonsense.

Proto-Shaman
05-19-2013, 10:21 PM
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Hajdu
05-20-2013, 04:21 PM
The Mongoloid percentage here is really quite small, leaving only slight intriguing traces here and there, similar to Finns. There is the occasional recombination where the phenotype pops up again - also similar to Baltids. These people look pretty european overall.