The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

[National_Nord]

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

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http://ddickerson.igc.org/The_Protocols_of_the_Learned_Elders_of_Zion.pdf

[Loki]

This document has been proven to be a literary forgery.

[Sol Invictus]

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[National_Nord]

This document has been proven to be a literary forgery.

In order to recognize the forgery of a document is much too frequently the reality that at least suggests that there is no smoke without fire.

[Zardoz]

This nonsense was written in Russia by the Tsarist secret police as an excuse for another pogrom. It's a fake.

[Angantyr]

In order to recognize the forgery of a document is much too frequently the reality that at least suggests that there is no smoke without fire.

WTH??

I must also add my voice in recognition that it is a forgery.

[The Lawspeaker]

A forgery but there is nothing wrong with a great work of fiction is there ?
After all what the Brothers Grimm or Hans Christian Andersen wrote was also pretty interesting stuff ;)

[Loddfafner]

It is not just a forgery but it reads like a very bad gothic novel. One might as well take the work of HP Lovecraft or Mary Shelley as the literal truth.

[The Lawspeaker]

De gustibus non est disputandum :) There is no arguing about taste.
I personally have no time to read it but when I have some more time I would be willing to fight myself through the first pages and see what comes along.

I like bad horror stories before going to bed. :eek::D

[Cato]

The Elders of Zion emerge as a cabal of Lovecraftian-styled evil geniuses whose plot to overthrow Aryan man can only have been inspired by the Great Old Ones.

[Lyfing]

Yeah, there ain't no way around this one..


"...the Jews achieved that miracle of inversion of values thanks to which life on earth has for a couple millennia acquired a new and dangerous fascination--their prophets fused 'rich', 'godless', 'evil', 'violent', 'sensual' into one and were the first to coin the word 'world' as a term of infamy. It is this inversion of values (with which is involved the employment of the word for 'poor' as a synonym for 'holy' and 'friend') that the significance of the Jewish people resides: with them there begins the slave revolt in morals."[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-slave_morality

Later,
-Lyfing

[Creeping Death]

This document has been proven to be a literary forgery.
The Jews have said it was a forgery, I dont know maybe it is a compilation of several conferences condensed into one convenient book. But when the Israeli military publishes books such as this below, it is no so far fetched to believe Jews in Czarist Russia spoke such a plot at a conference.

Vatican teaching Hezbollah how to kill Jews, says pamphlet for IDF troops (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1101158.html)

The Pope and the cardinals of the Vatican help organize tours of Auschwitz for Hezbollah members to teach them how to wipe out Jews, according to a booklet being distributed to Israel Defense Forces soldiers.

Officials encouraging the booklet's distribution include senior officers, such as Lt. Col. Tamir Shalom, the commander of the Nahshon Battalion of the Kfir Brigade.

The booklet was published by the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, in cooperation with the chief rabbi of Safed, Rabbi Shmuel Eliahu, and has been distributed for the past few months.

The booklet, titled "On Either Side of the Border," purports to be the testimony of "a Hezbollah officer who spied for Israel."

"The book is distributed regularly and everyone reads it and believes it," said one soldier. "It's filled with made-up details but is presented as a true story. A whole company of soldiers, adults, told me: 'Read this and you'll understand who the Arabs are.'"
As our brother Nord said ''There is no smoke without fire".

[Cato]

Why worry about supposedly secrey books of Jewish plotting when they've got one that's basically up-front on what it wants to do? The Communist Manifesto was written by a Jew and has been a bible to many Jews throughout the years. I know that some Jews, a minority of them, are fanatically against communism, but their alternative a(zionism or a zionist theocracy) isn't much better.

[British and Proud]

This document has been proven to be a literary forgery.

Can you show me the evidence. I have heard this often said, but I have heard very little evidence.


This nonsense was written in Russia by the Tsarist secret police as an excuse for another pogrom. It's a fake.

It has been claimed that the original document is centuries old and pre-dates the texts which it is alleged to have plagiarised.


It is not just a forgery but it reads like a very bad gothic novel. One might as well take the work of HP Lovecraft or Mary Shelley as the literal truth.

It reads like a history of the Twentieth Century - it predicts world wars, recessions, the rise of alcoholism, the propagation of Marxism, Darwinism, etc to destroy Christianity, materialism, distractions to entertain the hoi polloi (TV), universal suffrage, control of the press, pornography and many other things. It is very prescient. In fact it is probably the most accurate book in terms of predicting the future ever written...see below.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6553/protocols.jpg

Coincidence? Of course if the media says it's a fake then it must be so. :rolleyes: Show me the evidence.

[The Lawspeaker]

@B&P. This list shows like a literal list of the 20th century. This book was supposedly written when ? 1905 ?
Coincidence.. ? I don't think so anymore.

[Loddfafner]

The items on that list - depressions, ideologies, intoxication, etc were already underway by the first decade of the twentieth century. Those did, however, reflect widespread anxieties of the time which accounts both for the forgers and for the credulity of the protocols' readers.

[British and Proud]

The items on that list - depressions, ideologies, intoxication, etc were already underway by the first decade of the twentieth century. Those did, however, reflect widespread anxieties of the time which accounts both for the forgers and for the credulity of the protocols' readers.

My copy of the Protocols (available from Amazon) has an introduction which states they were first published 'in the year 1897 by Philip Stepanov for private circulation among his intimate friends. The first time Nilus published them was in 1901 in a book called The Great Within the Small and reprinted in 1905. A copy of this is in The British Museum bearing the date of its reception, August 10, 1906.'

It continues:


Mr Henry Ford, in an interview published in the New York World, February 17th, 1921, put the case for Nilus tersely and convincingly thus:

"The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it now.

And intriguingly it states...


Captain A.H.M Ramsay records in his classic, The Nameless War..."The Learned Elders have been in existence for a much longer period than they have perhaps suspected. My friend, Mr L.D. van Valckert, of Amsterdam, has recently sent me two extracts from the Synagogue at Mulheim. The volume in which they are contained was lost at some period during the Napoleonic Wars....The first entry he sends me is of a letter received:-

16 June 1647.

From O.C. (ie. Oliver Cromwell), to Ebenezer Pratt.

"In return for financial support will advocate admission of Jews to England: This however is impossible with Charles living.

Charles cannot be executed without trial, adequate grounds for which do not at present exist. Therefore advise that Charles be assassinated, but will have nothing to do with the arrangements for procuring an assassin, though willing to help in his escape."

In reply was dispatched the following:-

12th July, 1647.

To O.C. by E. Pratt.

"Will grant financial aid as soon as Charles removed and Jews admitted.Assassination too dangerous. Charles shall be given opportunity to escape: His recapture will make trial and execution possible. The support will be liberal, but useless to discuss terms until trial commences."

Captain Ramsay quotes Isaac Disraeli, father of Benjamin, Earl of Beaconsfield, Britain's first Jewish Prime Minister, in his two volume "Life of Charles 1", published in 1851: "The English Revolution under Charles 1 was unlike any preceding one...From that time and event we contemplate in our history the phases of revolution." There were many more to follow on similar lines, notably in France.

In the Protocols it is written: "Remember the French Revolution, the secrets of it preparations are well known to us for it was entirely the work of our hands".

Finally, I will quote Jamess Gibb Stuart:


If the Protocols are to be accepted at their face value - and they have of course been viciously attacked as a plagiarisms and a forgery - there were devious intelligences at least a hundred years ago who had already anticipated a state of affairs under which potential power seekers would manipulate the masses by bringing control all organs of the popular press under their own effective control.

The purpose? It had to be some drastic restructuring of society which would be rejected out of hand by free peoples if the issues were fairly and honestly presented.

[Loki]

Can you show me the evidence. I have heard this often said, but I have heard very little evidence.


Can you show me the evidence that Lord of the Rings is not actual history? Protocols is a work of fiction as well.

[British and Proud]

Can you show me the evidence that Lord of the Rings is not actual history? Protocols is a work of fiction as well.


Crucially - most of the story is obviously fictitious as it deviates hugely from historical fact and today's reality. Conversely, the Protocols predicted events that have since come to pass. That to me is enough to investigate them. Until I find evidence which proves them to have been 'faked', then I assume they are real as they are so prescient, and not in a vague Notradamesque fashion, but in a direct and unambiguous - 'there will be world wars' - fashion.

You can say "they are fake", but that doesn't make them so. That doesn't work, look - "the moon is made of cheese". So the moon is made of cheese, right?

I have heard that the Protocols are alleged to contain lines found in other books, and that is the only proof I have ever had offered to substantiate the claim that they are fakes. But since some people claim that the Protocols are hundreds of years old, and thus predate these books, it is more likely that the authors have either been familiar with the Protocols or somebody close to them has and has given them the idea/phrase which they have included in their book.

The fact is the Protocols have been viciously attacked and denounced, but does that confirm them to be fraudulent?

[Cato]

The fact is the Protocols have been viciously attacked and denounced, but does that confirm them to be fraudulent?

Or, who's to say that some cabal isn't using them, factual or not, as a playbook of sorts? The events supposedly predicted are uncanny to be sure, but I'm not one for tooting the horn of "blame the Jews" for every disaster or calamity that shakes the world. Or, if they are real, who's to say that some perfidious group doctored these "protocols" to look like they were the work of Jewish sneaks? Granted, there are a lot of Jewish blusterers and agitators in the world, but I don't think that they're ruled by a group of evil, plotting masterminds ala Fu Manchu.

[Loki]

Crucially - most of the story is obviously fictitious as it deviates hugely from historical fact and today's reality. Conversely, the Protocols predicted events that have since come to pass.

So did the Bible. The Old Testament predicted the coming of Christ. :rolleyes2:



You can say "they are fake", but that doesn't make them so. That doesn't work, look - "the moon is made of cheese". So the moon is made of cheese, right?


Quite frankly, I don't really care. Star Trek TNG is my genre of interest.

[Nodens]

Or, who's to say that some cabal isn't using them, factual or not, as a playbook of sorts? The events supposedly predicted are uncanny to be sure, but I'm not one for tooting the horn of "blame the Jews" for every disaster or calamity that shakes the world. Or, if they are real, who's to say that some perfidious group doctored these "protocols" to look like they were the work of Jewish sneaks? Granted, there are a lot of Jewish blusterers and agitators in the world, but I don't think that they're ruled by a group of evil, plotting masterminds ala Fu Manchu.

Even more so, any organization that has the wherewithal to engineer these 'planned events' is most certainly savvy enough to throw out a few red herrings and careful enough that they wouldn't absentmindedly allow their playbook to be discovered with their name on it.

[Cato]

Even more so, any organization that has the wherewithal to engineer these 'planned events' is most certainly savvy enough to throw out a few red herrings and careful enough that they wouldn't absentmindedly allow their playbook to be discovered with their name on it.

That's the trouble when a given topic enters into the realm of conspiracy. The idea of a group of evildoers who're responsible for every bad thing in the world appeals to many, from Satan and his devils to plotting Jews. I'm pretty certain that Satan is as big a fairytale as his christly nemesis, but I wouldn't be surprised if a cabal of idiots playing social engineer with the world exists- except that they're inept and have no idea what the hell they're doing. If such a group existed, and has existed for ages, then their plan should be complete by now. Or somesuch.

[British and Proud]

Or, who's to say that some cabal isn't using them, factual or not, as a playbook of sorts? The events supposedly predicted are uncanny to be sure, but I'm not one for tooting the horn of "blame the Jews" for every disaster or calamity that shakes the world. Or, if they are real, who's to say that some perfidious group doctored these "protocols" to look like they were the work of Jewish sneaks? Granted, there are a lot of Jewish blusterers and agitators in the world, but I don't think that they're ruled by a group of evil, plotting masterminds ala Fu Manchu.

Oh I never said that they were necessarily the work of the Jews, read my earlier quote:


If the Protocols are to be accepted at their face value - and they have of course been viciously attacked as a plagiarisms and a forgery - there were devious intelligences at least a hundred years ago who had already anticipated a state of affairs under which potential power seekers would manipulate the masses by bringing control all organs of the popular press under their own effective control.

The purpose? It had to be some drastic restructuring of society which would be rejected out of hand by free peoples if the issues were fairly and honestly presented.

Whether or not Zionists are responsible, Occidental society has been restructured and it is now secular, materialistic, the masses are ignorant and apathetic, intoxicated and their opinions are shaped by the ubiquitous media - subtly and not-so-subtly.

The fact that all this was predicted in a book, that was penned at least 112 years ago is too much for me to accept as a mere coincidence - especially given some of the other revelations contained therein:

eg.


"The part played by the liberals, utopian dreamers, will be finally played out when our government is acknowledged. Till such time they will continue to do us good service. Therefore we shall continue to direct their minds to all sorts of vain conceptions of fantastic theories, new and apparently progressive..."


This was written in the Victorian era, when piano legs were covered in the respectable society.


"we shall have a sure triumph over our opponents since they will not have at their disposition organs oif the press in which they can give full and final expression to their views."

Ever had the feeling that our media is at odds with what people are actually thinking? Just read this quote of Powell's:

"Have you ever wondered, why opinions that the majority of people quite naturally hold are, if anyone dares express them publicly, denounced as 'controversial', 'extremist', 'explosive', 'disgraceful' and overwhelmed with violence and venom? It is because the whole power of the aggressor depends upon preventing people from seeing what is happening and from saying what they see." - Enoch Powell


In order to destroy the prestige of heroism for political crime we shall send it for trial in the category of thieving, murder, and every kind of abominable and filthy crime. Public opinion will then confuse in its conception this category of crime with the disgrace attaching to every other and will brand it with the same contempt.

If people vocally oppose immigration, they are looked at with suspicion by many people now. You can see what they're thinking "oh my God...he's a wacist".

[British and Proud]

So did the Bible. The Old Testament predicted the coming of Christ. :rolleyes2:

The OT vaguely predicts the coming of Christ inone or two books, though this is open to interpretation and translation.

The Protocols are at least 112 years old and predict, pretty accurately and with no ambiguity, all sorts of events that have come to pass, and were at the time, unlikely, even inconceivable.

[Cato]

The masses were kept pretty stupid in Roman times too, hence the term bread and circuses, referring to the free food and games that the Roman state doled out to keep the mob from being to restless.

For the Romans, it was a practical matter: idlers tended to get unruly, so giving the idle free food and free entertainment kept them out of trouble. These days, it does point to some agenda, I'll admit, but it's more of a destructively stupid (rather than sinister) agenda.

[Loki]

The OT vaguely predicts the coming of Christ inone or two books, though this is open to interpretation and translation.

The Protocols are at least 112 years old and predict, pretty accurately and with no ambiguity, all sorts of events that have come to pass, and were at the time, unlikely, even inconceivable.

So it's supernatural prophecy? IMO it's exactly the same case that you ascribe to the Bible -- that of suggestive interpretation.

[Loddfafner]

Alcohol... Darwin... Nietzsche... How can anyone seriously reduce them to a plot against the White race?

Also, since when does any group actually refer to itself as a snake spreading corruption?

And, has any momentous meeting with world-historical consequences ever been held in a graveyard at midnight?

[British and Proud]

Alcohol... Darwin... Nietzsche... How can anyone seriously reduce them to a plot against the White race?

The Protocols is not a 'plot against the white race', but is about a cabal of people who are intent on reordering society so that it is eventually controlled by them. It does this, in part, by secularising the population and making them just consumerists who reject traditional values.


Also, since when does any group actually refer to itself as a snake spreading corruption?

I suggest you look into the Skull and Bones (Anthony Sutton has written an interesting book about them), their rituals and names are very bizarre. They also use a different calendar...


And, has any momentous meeting with world-historical consequences ever been held in a graveyard at midnight?

I have never heard of this. Have you a source? I cannot find any mention of it in my copy.

[British and Proud]

So it's supernatural prophecy? IMO it's exactly the same case that you ascribe to the Bible -- that of suggestive interpretation.

It's not though. The Protocols are generally specific and unambiguous - have you not read them? The Bible talks in parables, metaphors and is almost undecipherable in parts - eg. Revelations.

[Loki]

It's not though. The Protocols are generally specific and unambiguous - have you not read them? The Bible talks in parables, metaphors and is almost undecipherable in parts - eg. Revelations.

I've read both the Protocols and the Bible, and still feel it's a valid comparison re: prophetic interpretation. What other explanation do you have then? Are Jews some sort of superhuman alien lizards who know things before they happen?

http://www.alienjesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/.bowen-designs-the-lizard-statue.jpg

The happenings of the last few centuries, like rise in consumerism, has very little to do with Jewish conspiracies, but everything to do with economic evolution of nations, and increase of wealth and spending power. Besides, it's a worldwide phenomenon, and it does not discriminate between race, religion or political adherence. All humanity is affected by modernism. What does all this have to do with the Protocols? Absolutely zero.

[British and Proud]

I've read both the Protocols and the Bible, and still feel it's a valid comparison re: prophetic interpretation. What other explanation do you have then? Are Jews some sort of superhuman alien lizards who know things before they happen?

http://www.alienjesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/.bowen-designs-the-lizard-statue.jpg


1) I am NOT saying Jews are responsible for the Protocols, it may well be they are a diversion.

2) There's a big difference between predicting the future and making it. If a cabal has sufficient means and cunning they can make something happen.



The happenings of the last few centuries, like rise in consumerism, has very little to do with Jewish conspiracies, but everything to do with economic evolution of nations, and increase of wealth and spending power. Besides, it's a worldwide phenomenon, and it does not discriminate between race, religion or political adherence. All humanity is affected by modernism. What does all this have to do with the Protocols? Absolutely zero.


Japan has been largely unaffected by the racial element of the 'economic evolution', yet is arguably more technologically advanced that the Occidental world.


I think the following makes interesting reading:

Source (http://www.iamanenglishman.com/page.php?page=2&iCategoryId=1127&iParentId=1097).


The American historian, William S. Lind wrote the original essay "Who Stole Our Culture".

This can be seen at the World Net Daily web site here:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55833

The essay features at chapter 10 of Dr. Ted Baehr and Pat Boone's book "The Culture-wise Family: Upholding Christian Values in a Mass Media World."

I hope Mr Lind doesn’t mind but I have edited his work so that it reads a little more appropriately in the UK.

"Sometime during the last half-century, someone stole our culture.

Just 50 years ago, in the 1950s, Britain was a great place. It was safe. It was decent. Children got good educations in the public schools. Even working-class fathers could bring home middle-class incomes, so mothers could stay home with the kids. Television shows reflected sound, traditional values.

Where did it all go? How did Britain become the sleazy, decadent place we live in today – so different that those who grew up prior to the '60s feel like it's a foreign country? Did it just "happen"?

It didn't just "happen." In fact, a deliberate agenda was followed to steal our culture and leave a new and very different one in its place. The story of how and why is one of the most important parts of our nation's history – and it is a story almost no one knows. The people behind it wanted it that way.

What happened, in short, is that Britain's traditional culture, which had evolved over many generations, was swept aside by an ideology. We know that ideology best as "political correctness" or "multi-culturalism."

A more exact name for this phenomenon would be Cultural Marxism, whose roots go back, not just to the 1960s, but to World War I. Incredible as it may seem, just as the old economic Marxism of the Soviet Union has faded away, a new cultural Marxism has become the ruling ideology of the Global elites. THE NO. 1 GOAL OF THAT CULTURAL MARXISM, SINCE ITS CREATION, HAS BEEN THE DESTRUCTION OF WESTERN CULTURE AND THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION.

To understand anything, we have to know its history.

To understand who stole our culture, we need to take a look at the history of "political correctness."

Before World War I, Marxist theory said that if Europe ever erupted in war, the working classes in every European country would rise in revolt, overthrow their governments and create a new Communist Europe. But when war broke out in the summer of 1914, that didn't happen. Instead, the workers in every European country lined up by the millions to fight their country's enemies. Finally, in 1917, a Communist revolution did occur, in Russia. But attempts to spread that revolution to other countries failed because the workers did not support it.

After World War I ended in 1918, Marxist theorists had to ask themselves the question: What went wrong? As good Marxists, they could not admit Marxist theory had been incorrect. Instead, two leading Marxist intellectuals, Antonio Gramsci in Italy and Georg Lukacs in Hungary (Lukacs was considered the most brilliant Marxist thinker since Marx himself) independently came up with the same answer.

They said that Western culture and the Christian religion had so blinded the working class to its true, Marxist class interests, that A COMMUNIST REVOLUTION WAS IMPOSSIBLE IN THE WEST, UNTIL BOTH COULD BE DESTROYED. THAT OBJECTIVE HAS NEVER CHANGED.

Gramsci famously laid out a strategy for destroying Christianity and Western culture, one that has proven all too successful. INSTEAD OF CALLING FOR A COMMUNIST REVOLUTION UP FRONT, AS IN RUSSIA, HE SAID MARXISTS IN THE WEST SHOULD TAKE POLITICAL POWER LAST, AFTER A "LONG MARCH THROUGH THE INSTITUTIONS" – THE SCHOOLS, THE MEDIA, EVEN THE CHURCHES, EVERY INSTITUTION THAT COULD INFLUENCE THE CULTURE. That "long march through the institutions" is what the Western world has experienced, especially since the 1960s…

Georg Lukacs proved more influential. In 1918, he became deputy commissar for culture in the short-lived Bela Kun Bolshevik regime in Hungary. There, asking "Who will save us from Western civilization?" he instituted what he called "CULTURAL TERRORISM."

One of its main components was INTRODUCING SEX EDUCATION INTO HUNGARIAN SCHOOLS. Lukacs realized that if he could destroy the country's traditional sexual morals, he would have taken a giant step toward destroying its traditional culture and Christian faith.

Far from rallying to Lukacs' "cultural terrorism," the Hungarian working class was so outraged by it that when Romania invaded Hungary, the workers would not fight for the Bela Kun government, and it fell. Lukacs disappeared, but not for long. In 1923, he turned up at a "Marxist Study Week" in Germany, a program sponsored by a young Marxist named Felix Weil who had inherited millions. Weil and the others who attended that study week were fascinated by Lukacs' cultural perspective on Marxism.

Weil responded by using some of his money to set up a new think tank at Frankfurt University in Frankfurt, Germany. Originally it was to be called the "Institute for Marxism." But the cultural Marxists realized they could be far more effective if they concealed their real nature and objectives. They convinced Weil to give the new institute a neutral-sounding name, the "Institute for Social Research." Soon known simply as the "Frankfurt School," the Institute for Social Research would become the place where political correctness, as we now know it, was developed.

THE BASIC ANSWER TO THE QUESTION "WHO STOLE OUR CULTURE?" IS THE CULTURAL MARXISTS OF THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL.

At first, the Institute worked mainly on conventional Marxist issues such as the labour movement. But in 1930, that changed dramatically. That year, the Institute was taken over by a new director, a brilliant young Marxist intellectual named Max Horkheimer. Horkheimer had been strongly influenced by Georg Lukacs. He immediately set to work to turn the Frankfurt School into the place where Lukacs' pioneering work on cultural Marxism could be developed further into a full-blown ideology.

To that end, he brought some new members into the Frankfurt School. Perhaps the most important was Theodor Adorno, who would become Horkheimer's most creative collaborator. Other new members included two psychologists, Eric Fromm and Wilhelm Reich, who were noted promoters of feminism and matriarchy, and a young graduate student named Herbert Marcuse.

With the help of this new blood, Horkheimer made three major advances in the development of cultural Marxism. First, he broke with Marx's view that culture was merely part of society's "superstructure," which was determined by economic factors. He said that on the contrary, culture was an independent and very important factor in shaping a society.

Second, again contrary to Marx, he announced that in the future, the working class would not be the agent of revolution. He left open the question of who would play that role – a question Marcuse answered in the 1950s.

Third, Horkheimer and the other Frankfurt School members decided that the key to destroying Western culture was to cross Marx with Freud. They argued that just as workers were oppressed under capitalism, so under Western culture, everyone lived in a constant state of psychological repression. "Liberating" everyone from that repression became one of cultural Marxism's main goals. Even more important, they realised that psychology offered them a far more powerful tool than philosophy for destroying Western culture: psychological conditioning.

Today, when Hollywood's cultural Marxists want to "normalise" something like homosexuality (thus "liberating" us from "repression"), THEY PUT ON TELEVISION SHOW AFTER TELEVISION SHOW WHERE THE ONLY NORMAL-SEEMING WHITE MALE IS A HOMOSEXUAL. That is how psychological conditioning works; PEOPLE ABSORB THE LESSONS THE CULTURAL MARXISTS WANT THEM TO LEARN WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING THEY ARE BEING TAUGHT.

The Frankfurt School was well on the way to creating political correctness. Then suddenly, fate intervened. In 1933, Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party came to power in Germany, where the Frankfurt School was located. Since the Frankfurt School was Marxist, and the Nazis hated Marxism, and since ALMOST ALL ITS MEMBERS WERE JEWISH, it decided to leave Germany. In 1934, THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL, INCLUDING ITS LEADING MEMBERS FROM GERMANY, WAS RE-ESTABLISHED IN NEW YORK CITY with help from Columbia University. Soon, its focus shifted from destroying traditional Western culture in Germany to doing so in the United States. It would prove all too successful.

Taking advantage of American hospitality, the Frankfurt School soon resumed its intellectual work to create cultural Marxism.

To serve its purpose of "negating" Western culture, the Frankfurt School developed a powerful tool it called "Critical Theory." What was the theory? The theory was to criticise. BY SUBJECTING EVERY TRADITIONAL INSTITUTION, STARTING WITH FAMILY, TO ENDLESS, UNREMITTING CRITICISM, IT HOPED TO BRING THEM DOWN. Critical Theory is the basis for the "studies" departments that now inhabit Western colleges and universities.

THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL SOUGHT TO DEFINE TRADITIONAL ATTITUDES ON EVERY ISSUE AS "PREJUDICE" in a series of academic studies that culminated in Adorno's immensely influential book, "The Authoritarian Personality," published in 1950. They invented a bogus "F-scale" that purported to tie traditional beliefs on sexual morals, relations between men and women and questions touching on the family to support for fascism. Today, THE FAVOURITE TERM THE POLITICALLY CORRECT USE FOR ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THEM IS "FASCIST."

The Frankfurt School said history was determined by which groups, defined as men, women, races, religions, etc., had power or "dominance" over other groups. CERTAIN GROUPS, ESPECIALLY WHITE MALES, WERE LABELED "OPPRESSORS," while other groups were defined as "victims." Victims were automatically good, oppressors bad, just by what group they came from, regardless of individual behaviour.

Though Marxists, the members of the Frankfurt School also drew from Nietzsche. They incorporated into their cultural Marxism what Nietzsche called the "transvaluation of all values." What that means, in plain English, is that ALL THE OLD SINS BECOME VIRTUES, AND ALL THE OLD VIRTUES BECOME SINS.

Led by Adorno, the Frankfurt School initially opposed the culture industry, which they thought "commodified" culture.

Then, they started to listen to Walter Benjamin, a close friend of Horkheimer and Adorno, who argued that CULTURAL MARXISM COULD MAKE POWERFUL USE OF TOOLS LIKE RADIO, FILM AND LATER TELEVISION TO PSYCHOLOGICALLY CONDITION THE PUBLIC. Benjamin's view prevailed, and Horkheimer and Adorno spent the World War II years in Hollywood. It is no accident that THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY IS NOW CULTURAL MARXISM'S MOST POWERFUL WEAPON.


After World War II and the defeat of the Nazis, Horkheimer, Adorno and most of the other members of the Frankfurt School returned to Germany, where the Institute re-established itself in Frankfurt with the help of Yanks.

Cultural Marxism in time became the unofficial but all-pervasive ideology of the Federal Republic of Germany.

Herbert Marcuse remained in the USA. His book "Eros and Civilisation" used the Frankfurt School's crossing of Marx with Freud to argue that if we would only "liberate non-procreative eros" through "polymorphous perversity," we could create a new paradise where there would be only play and no work. "Eros and Civilization" became one of the main texts of the New Left in the 1960s.

Marcuse also widened the Frankfurt School's intellectual work. In the early 1930s, Horkheimer had left open the question of who would replace the working class as the agent of Marxist revolution. In the 1950s, Marcuse answered the question, saying it would be A COALITION OF STUDENTS, BLACKS, FEMINIST WOMEN AND HOMOSEXUALS – THE CORE OF THE STUDENT REBELLION OF THE 1960S, AND THE SACRED "VICTIMS GROUPS" OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS TODAY. Marcuse further took one of political correctness's favourite words "tolerance" and gave it a new meaning. He defined "liberating tolerance" AS TOLERANCE FOR ALL IDEAS AND MOVEMENTS COMING FROM THE LEFT, AND INTOLERANCE FOR ALL IDEAS AND MOVEMENTS COMING FROM THE RIGHT. When you hear the cultural Marxists today call for "tolerance," they mean Marcuse's "liberating tolerance". (Just as when they call for "diversity," they mean uniformity of belief in their ideology).

The student rebellion of the 1960s, driven largely by opposition to the draft for the Vietnam War, gave Marcuse a historic opportunity.

As perhaps its most famous "guru," he injected the Frankfurt School's cultural Marxism into the baby boom generation. Of course, they did not understand what it really was.

As was true from the Institute's beginning, Marcuse and the few other people "in the know" did not advertise that political correctness and multi-culturalism were a form of Marxism. But the effect was devastating: A WHOLE GENERATION OF WHITE AMERICANS AND EUROPEANS, ESPECIALLY THE UNIVERSITY-EDUCATED ELITE, ABSORBED CULTURAL MARXISM AS THEIR OWN, accepting a poisonous ideology that sought to destroy the West’s traditional culture and Christian faith.

THAT GENERATION, WHICH RUNS EVERY ELITE INSTITUTION THROUGHOUT THE WESTERN WORLD, NOW WAGES A CEASELESS WAR ON ALL TRADITIONAL BELIEFS AND INSTITUTIONS. They have largely won that war. Most of our traditional culture lies in ruins.

Now you know who stole our culture, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?"

So, according to the historian, William Lind, the Director of the Center for Cultural Conservatism in Washington and Vestryman of the St. James Anglican Church Cleveland, Ohio, those who stole our culture were these:

Karl Marx; Sigmund Freud; Antonio Gramsci; Georg Lukacs; Felix Weil; Max Horkheimer; Theodor Adorno; Eric Fromm; Wilhelm Reich; Herbert Marcuse and Walter Benjamin.

Gramsci’s ancestry was Albanian though he was brought up in Italy.

All the rest were Jewish.

The mass murdering Hungarian Bolshevik, Bela Kun, was also Jewish.

As were so many of those who created, staffed and led the Russian Revolution.

They didn’t teach you any of this in school now did they?

[Loki]

1) I am NOT saying Jews are responsible for the Protocols, it may well be they are a diversion.

2) There's a big difference between predicting the future and making it. If a cabal has sufficient means and cunning they can make something happen.


What are you actually saying then?



Japan has been largely unaffected by the racial element of the 'economic evolution', yet is arguably more technologically advanced that the Occidental world.


Maybe we should have the Protocols translated into Japanese, so that those damn insular Japs can start becoming more multicultural.

I'm not exactly clear what you are trying to convey. You're clearly a believer in the magical powers of the authors of this manuscript. I'm not entirely convinced -- all I see is a heap of logical projections turned into sensation.

I can write a book that will detail the demise of the okapi in the African rainforest. That creature may well become extinct in a few decades' time, but it would not necessarily mean that I orchestrated its annihilation from my armchair.

[British and Proud]

What are you actually saying then?

To use a quote again, I'm saying that the Protocols prove:


there were devious intelligences at least a hundred years ago who had already anticipated a state of affairs under which potential power seekers would manipulate the masses by bringing control all organs of the popular press under their own effective control.




Maybe we should have the Protocols translated into Japanese, so that those damn insular Japs can start becoming more multicultural.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Japan_low.jpg


I'm not exactly clear what you are trying to convey. You're clearly a believer in the magical powers of the authors of this manuscript. I'm not entirely convinced -- all I see is a heap of logical projections turned into sensation.

I can write a book that will detail the demise of the okapi in the African rainforest. That creature may well become extinct in a few decades' time, but it would not necessarily mean that I orchestrated its annihilation from my armchair.

Predicting mass-pornography (eg. internet - I believe 'porn' is the most searched word), world wars, the power of ubiquitous media (pre-TV), distrust in politicians, the pervasion of homosexual culture and other 'liberal' ideals is quite a feat in a society that still covers piano legs...

[Loddfafner]

I am still amazed that now there are conspiracy theories woven around some tedious, dated, mutually incompatible academic theorists lumped together as "cultural marxists". Some were momentarily influential but were replaced by other intellectual fads. The core insight that one cannot make sense out of economics without considering family life, religion, and social clubs has been taken up by a range of political movements on the right as well as the left. Identity politics as a fetishization of race, gender, sexuality, ability, etc was a later development whose proponents largely rejected the Frankfurt school.

Only those isolated academics and their conspiracy-obsessed stalkers thought they had any real importance. Hollywood was not an implementation of their hopes but rather one more institution of patriarchal capitalism to whine about.

[British and Proud]

I am still amazed that now there are conspiracy theories woven around some tedious, dated, mutually incompatible academic theorists lumped together as "cultural marxists". Some were momentarily influential but were replaced by other intellectual fads. The core insight that one cannot make sense out of economics without considering family life, religion, and social clubs has been taken up by a range of political movements on the right as well as the left. Identity politics as a fetishization of race, gender, sexuality, ability, etc was a later development whose proponents largely rejected the Frankfurt school.

Only those isolated academics and their conspiracy-obsessed stalkers thought they had any real importance. Hollywood was not an implementation of their hopes but rather one more institution of patriarchal capitalism to whine about.

Maybe. Though a lot of what I read rang true.

Here is another article from the same blog:




Israel Zangwill, was an English-born Jew, whose parents had previously fled Russia.

His father was considered to be enough an enemy of the Russian state to be sentenced to death in absentia.

Zangwill was active in the suffragette and pacifist movements and was a member of the left-wing Fabian Society. He also founded the Jewish Territorial Organisation and was one the leading Zionists of his time.

In his 1921 book, The Voice of Jerusalem, Zangwill wrote:

"Men form one universal brotherhood… their individual lives, their nations and races, interbreed and blend and go on to merge again at last in one common human… This conclusion was in fact the starting-point of Hebrew literature… the co-existence of this covenant of co-operation, this new world order, would… reduce racial frictions to a minimum by the world-policy of the open door… In particular, boundary questions could be denuded of their significance…

Bolshevism may be good or bad, but the United States of Russia would be in greater congruity with World-Peace than a swarm of conflicting nationalities; and if the Bolshevists can succeed in re-uniting them, they will to that extent be promoting the larger and truer ideal".

"One universal brotherhood", "Interbreed and blend", "New World Order", "World-policy of the open door", "Boundary questions denuded of their significance", "Bolshevism may be good", "United States of Russia would be in greater congruity with World-Peace than a swarm of conflicting nationalities".

Don’t you get it yet, England?

Do you really not get it?

Zangwill wrote this 84 years ago and the plan is considerably older than that.

Love of the land? – No!

Love of country? – No!

Love of family, neighbourhood and clan, pride in your British identity? No! No! No!

The tribe must die, the "World-policy of the open door" must be adhered to and you must "interbreed"!

And if you don’t do as we demand we will organise protest groups who will call you nasty names wherever you congregate: Neo-Nazi! Fascist! Dinosuar! White Supremacist! Bigot! Hater! AntiSemite! Racist!

It continues here (http://www.iamanenglishman.com/page.php?iCategoryId=465&iParentId=452).

[Zardoz]

It has been claimed that the original document is centuries old and pre-dates the texts which it is alleged to have plagiarised.


It also claimed that the above allegation was post-pre-dated by an assumed scribe in a postulated Jewish proto-presumptive therefore a priori superstate, said scribe alleged to have been presumed to have a high probability of possible assertions presupposing the creation of documents in a deductively assumptive manner. :rolleyes:

[British and Proud]

Here's an interesting quote:


"The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.

In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."

— Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue de Paris', p.574, June 1, 1928

I'd love somebody to substantiate that this was written, or prove it wasn't.

[Loyalist]

The full English text is available here:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm#WHO

The question of whether or not the original document is itself a hoax has been rendered inconsequential by time. In fact, the possibility that it was written from the viewpoint of a person or persons concerned with Jewish activities at the time makes it all the more relevant to the Jewish question today. Although originally published in 1903, more than 100 years later, the activities, values, and views of Jews in the public sphere are accurately described in the Protocols. For example:


Jewish objectives as outlined in Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion:

1) Banish God from the heavens and Christianity from the earth.

2) Allow no private ownership of property or business.

3) Abolish marriage, family and home. Encourage sexual promiscuity, homosexuality, adultery, and fornication.

4) Completely destroy the sovereignty of all nations and every feeling or expression of patriotism.

5) Establish a one-world government through which the Luciferian Illuminati elite can rule the world. All other objectives are secondary to this one supreme purpose.

6) Take the education of children completely away from the parents. Cunningly and subtly lead the people thinking that compulsory school attendance laws are absolutely necessary to prevent illiteracy and to prepare children for better positions and life's responsibilities. Then after the children are forced to attend the schools get control of normal schools and teacher's colleges and also the writing and selection of all text books.

7) Take all prayer and Bible instruction out of the schools and introduce pornography, vulgarity, and courses in sex. If we can make one generation of any nation immoral and sexy, we can take that nation.

8) Completely destroy every thought of patriotism, national sovereignty, individualism, and a private competitive enterprise system.

9) Circulate vulgar, pornographic literature and pictures and encourage the unrestricted sale and general use of alcoholic beverage and drugs to weaken and corrupt the youth.

10) Foment, precipitate and finance large scale wars to emasculate and bankrupt the nations and thereby force them into a one-world government.

11) Secretly infiltrate and control colleges, universities, labor unions, political parties, churches, patriotic organizations, and governments. These are direct quotes from their own writings (The Conflict of the Ages, by Clemens Gaebelein pp. 100-102).

12) The creation of a World Government.

Source (http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion/)

[~°2012°~]

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion explained

Amusing to watch

Part 1:
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Part 2:
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(posted this in a wrong thread earlier)

[Beorn]

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/protocols-of-zion/