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jerney
06-04-2012, 11:37 AM
After posting in this (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50854) thread, I was wondering what the general consensus is on this? I thought it was quite unanimous, but it seems some people are disagreeing with me. In my opinion, it's no question that western European women, on average, dress in a much classier manner then those in the east.The one exception here would be a certain group of lower class Brits that seem to enjoy dressing in a way that would be more common in Russia than northwestern Europe.

This is the map that correlates with what I consider "east" and "west" in this context, though I think Poland and Czech Republic are borderline and I'm not really sure how Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia fit in. I'm not really familiar with their dressing habits or fashion.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg26/scaled.php?server=26&filename=eastandwesteurope.png&res=landing

Talvi
06-04-2012, 11:40 AM
That is stupid. Estonians dont dress like Eastern Europeans.

jerney
06-04-2012, 11:41 AM
That is stupid. Estonians dont dress like Eastern Europeans.

Calm down. :rolleyes:

I made a comment about not being sure if Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania fit in with the "east".

Osprey
06-04-2012, 11:43 AM
After posting in this (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50854) thread, I was wondering what the general consensus is on this? I thought it was quite unanimous, but it seems some people are disagreeing with me. In my opinion, it's no question that western European women, on average, dress in a much classier manner then those in the east.The one exception here would be a certain group of lower class Brits that seem to enjoy dressing in a way that would be more common in Russia than northwestern Europe.

This is the map that correlates with what I consider "east" and "west" in this context, though I think Poland and Czech Republic are borderline and I'm not really sure how Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia fit in. I'm not really familiar with their dressing habits or fashion.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg26/scaled.php?server=26&filename=eastandwesteurope.png&res=landing

Western Europeans minus Med loving Western women.

Vasconcelos
06-04-2012, 11:45 AM
Western Europeans minus Med loving Western women.

Why, and what's that supposed to mean?

Osprey
06-04-2012, 11:47 AM
Why, and what's that supposed to mean?

Because Nord men instill a better sense of fashion among their women.

Vasconcelos
06-04-2012, 11:49 AM
Because Nord men instill a better sense of fashion among their women.

lolokimsureyouknowalotaboutfashionandalleuropeanpe oplesandtheirstyles

Talvi
06-04-2012, 11:57 AM
Here are some examples of what is average here:

http://p1.s1.rscdn.net/dating/1/c/6/1c6e17416420.jpg

http://p1.s1.rscdn.net/dating/1/4/e/14eb17389361.jpg

http://www.rate.ee/users/winky-

http://p2.s1.rscdn.net/dating/1/f/4/1f4717401397.jpg

http://p2.s1.rscdn.net/dating/1/6/e/16e517397356.jpg

http://www.rate.ee/users/--katu16--

http://p1.s1.rscdn.net/dating/1/c/2/1c2a17418176.jpg

Onur
06-04-2012, 12:02 PM
This should have been like "Southern Europeans vs Northern Europeans" not east vs west.

And definitely the southern Europeans had better fashion sense in the past and they still has the better today.

Rereg
06-04-2012, 12:04 PM
This thread have no sense!

The Lively Rock
06-04-2012, 12:07 PM
Mole people

jerney
06-04-2012, 12:07 PM
This should have been like "Southern Europeans vs Northern Europeans" not east vs west.

And definitely the southern Europeans had better fashion sense in the past and they still has the better today.

That wouldn't make any sense. NW Europeans don't dress anything like NE Europeans. There is a more uniform "Western" look and "Eastern" look if one has to make the divide. Greece is Southern Europe (and perhaps a few other Balkan countries depending on whose definition of "Southern" you want to use) and while it is definitely not as bad as some Slavic countries, it has certainly inherited some bad fashion sense from the Balkans that doesn't exist in other Southern European countries.

Padre Organtino
06-04-2012, 12:11 PM
Thanks to Aces High's kinsmen Eastern Euro have a solid chance of winning:p

BTW it should be smth like Former USSR Europe + Balkans than all of Eastern Europe. Slovack and Czech girls were dressed fine. Not many Polish girls I've seen so it's hard for me to generalize in their case.

Eastern Ukraine is unbeatable champ when it comes to badly dressed girls.

jerney
06-04-2012, 12:20 PM
Thanks to Aces High's kinsmen Eastern Euro have a solid chance of winning:p

BTW it should be smth like Former USSR Europe + Balkans than all of Eastern Europe. Slovack and Czech girls were dressed fine. Not many Polish girls I've seen so it's hard for me to generalize in their case.

Eastern Ukraine is unbeatable champ when it comes to badly dressed girls.

Yeah after I thought about it for a second I made a comment excluding most of those (though I'm not familiar with Slovaks). I'm also too lazy to make a map of my own and besides, what I said still applies to the bulk of the Balkans and Eastern Europe.

korkolola
06-04-2012, 12:25 PM
Here are some examples of what is average here:

http://p1.s1.rscdn.net/dating/1/c/6/1c6e17416420.jpg

http://p1.s1.rscdn.net/dating/1/4/e/14eb17389361.jpg

http://www.rate.ee/users/winky-

http://p2.s1.rscdn.net/dating/1/f/4/1f4717401397.jpg

http://p2.s1.rscdn.net/dating/1/6/e/16e517397356.jpg

http://www.rate.ee/users/--katu16--

http://p1.s1.rscdn.net/dating/1/c/2/1c2a17418176.jpg


No offense, but for me it looks VERY Eastern European... Of course, it's better than some of Slavs come up with, but still...

http://www.ve.lt/uploads/img/catalog/1/ukrainoje-abituriente-per-isleistuves-pasirode-neriniuotais-apatiniais-2.jpg

(Prom in Ukraine above)

I'd say it's hard to generalize, but I generally like how the Swedes, Austrians, Swiss, North Italians, French dress like. The Dutch would probably fit into that category as well. People in these countries wear quality clothes, know how to match colours and fabrics, usually have some knowledge about the latest trends and develop their own styles as well.

As for Lithuania, I think there are a lot of people who dress well here, but it also depends a lot on city/social status, things like that.

Lábaru
06-04-2012, 12:26 PM
I consider Finland as an Eastern country, Estonia of course more.

Talvi
06-04-2012, 12:27 PM
No offense, but for me it looks VERY Eastern European... Of course, it's better than some of Slavs come up with, but still...

http://www.ve.lt/uploads/img/catalog/1/ukrainoje-abituriente-per-isleistuves-pasirode-neriniuotais-apatiniais-2.jpg

(Prom in Ukraine above)

I'd say it's hard to generalize, but I generally like how the Swedes, Austrians, Swiss, North Italians dress like. The Dutch would probably fit into that category as well. People in these countries wear quality clothes, know how to match colours and fabrics, usually have some knowledge about the latest trends and develop their own styles as well.

As for Lithuania, I think there are a lot of people who dress well here, but it also depends a lot on city/social status, things like that.

I dont know, It is easy to spot a Russian on the street thanks to their hair/make up/ clothes. And the way some Eastern women post their pics and what they wear even on this forum are foreigner to me.

Γέλως
06-04-2012, 12:28 PM
Probably Western ones but I've seen a lot of English, Germans, Americans dressing dressing cheap and tacky so to speak, so I might as well exclude them. French and Italians should be the most well-dressed ones.

Onur
06-04-2012, 12:30 PM
That wouldn't make any sense. NW Europeans don't dress anything like NE Europeans. There is a more uniform "Western" look and "Eastern" look if one has to make the divide. Greece is Southern Europe (and perhaps a few other Balkan countries depending on whose definition of "Southern" you want to use) and while it is definitely not as bad as some Slavic countries, it has certainly inherited some bad fashion sense from the Balkans that doesn't exist in other Southern European countries.
I think those differences like between Greece and other slavic countries are because of commie regime. The ex-commie countries didn't have any proper fashion sense because they were just simple proletarians while Greece was never under this kind of regime.

So, i say the central and southern Europeans have the best fashion sense excluding the ex-commie ones.

Foxy
06-04-2012, 12:32 PM
Avarage Italian dress code:

To go to work you are supposed to dress like this

http://www.pourfemme.it/img/Abbigliamento-lavoro.jpg
http://www.comefaretutto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/vestito-colloquio-lavoro.jpg


For a dinner the favourite colour is black:

http://www.cerimoniamoda.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Abito-da-sera-corto-tubino-senza-spalline-nero.jpg

For school:

http://www.abbigliamentodonnauomo.it/images/prodotti/inverno%202011/north_sails_maglioncino_donna.jpg
http://fashionandstyle.buyvip.com/STORAGE/Krizia_Jeans_727/Top/Empty/J_8_010_00_E_1154_O88/maglietta-polo-rosso-1.jpg

Disco

http://csimg.pagineprezzi.it/srv/IT/29010206556/T/340x340/C/FFFFFF/url/sexy-mini-abito-donna-tubino.jpg
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQN2W5OBI74SasSDZLScM6q6ikpRJY5p vwK3ieqSINfi6rZs0mdLDrXAecJ
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtDY9EN2om0DSYt7x0Jf7kr_FwijzEs UgOZdUnj7SWESrxD30gdToUe-HGVQ

ficuscarica
06-04-2012, 12:33 PM
I think that with Italians and French is overrated. Many have a terrible style. I bet women from Estonia donīt dress worse.

korkolola
06-04-2012, 12:33 PM
I dont know, It is easy to spot a Russian on the street thanks to their hair/make up/ clothes. And the way some Eastern women post their pics and what they wear even on this forum are foreigner to me.

Of course, this happens in Lithuania as well, sometimes you can tell who's Lithuanian and who's Russian/Polish (of course it depends which social status the person has) but I wouldn't exclude Estonians from the whole 'Eastern European' pond.


Even though Estonians have some distinct style preferences (I've noticed, that, f.e., girls in Estonia like: bleaching their hair to the max (even if they're beautifully blonde naturally), smokey-eye effect, heavy black eyeliner, very contrasting clothing colours (black top, white/fair bottom), bright colours (pink, bright yellow, etc.), I would still never mix them with Western Europeans. Maybe in Germany girls dress a bit similar to that, idk.

Rastko
06-04-2012, 12:34 PM
Countries with Med coast > Rest of Europe.

/thread

Rouxinol
06-04-2012, 12:35 PM
Paris Hilton dresses and poses to pictures typically like many young eastern European women. She even does look eastern/Russian.

http://tudocelebridades.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/paris-hilton-ensaio-sensual1.jpg

Foxy
06-04-2012, 12:37 PM
I think that with Italians and French is overrated. Many have a terrible style. I bet women from Estonia donīt dress worse.

Sorry but I disagree and said by a German is almost ridicolous, as in Germany I have seen the worst dressed women of Europe. And men seem to can't renounce to this:

http://www.ilgiornaledellusso.it/wp-content/gallery/cool-e-kitsch-che-calzino-hai-combinato/calze-sandali.jpg

jerney
06-04-2012, 12:39 PM
No offense, but for me it looks VERY Eastern European... Of course, it's better than some of Slavs come up with, but still...
http://p2.s1.rscdn.net/dating/1/f/4/1f4717401397.jpg

http://p1.s1.rscdn.net/dating/1/4/e/14eb17389361.jpg


Only these styles are somewhat eastern european to me.


Probably Western ones but I've seen a lot of English, Germans, Americans dressing dressing cheap and tacky so to speak, so I might as well exclude them. French and Italians should be the most well-dressed ones.

I should have been more specific I guess. German and British tourists can dress quite badly, but what I really meant was "who dresses tackier"

Rouxinol
06-04-2012, 12:40 PM
http://www.ilgiornaledellusso.it/wp-content/gallery/cool-e-kitsch-che-calzino-hai-combinato/calze-sandali.jpg

But why the white sock with the sandal?!?! Can't they wear sandals with no socks? Or at least don't wear WHITE socks, but black ones...

ficuscarica
06-04-2012, 12:41 PM
Sorry but I disagree and said by a German is almost ridicolous, as in Germany I have seen the worst dressed women of Europe.

I am talking about men. Italian men often = big brown belly sometimes with an undershirt, sometimes without it, young men just without the big belly and therefore with big chains and tons of mousse in their hair. I am not saying Germans are better, btw, I was talking about Estonians and Italians/French and I just said Italians arenīt better, not worse than Estonians. But ok, I bow before the greatness of southern food, looks, everything, as the Southern members have made it quite clear that everyone who lives not on the med coast is a pale, fat blonde swine without taste.

jerney
06-04-2012, 12:41 PM
Sorry but I disagree and said by a German is almost ridicolous, as in Germany I have seen the worst dressed women of Europe.

:rolleyes:

Most German women aren't dressing bad at all. You don't have to wear flashy clothes to dress well. Nothing wrong with cute, simple, and casual fashion.

Talvi
06-04-2012, 12:45 PM
Of course, this happens in Lithuania as well, sometimes you can tell who's Lithuanian and who's Russian/Polish (of course it depends which social status the person has) but I wouldn't exclude Estonians from the whole 'Eastern European' pond.


Even though Estonians have some distinct style preferences (I've noticed, that, f.e., girls in Estonia like: bleaching their hair to the max (even if they're beautifully blonde naturally), smokey-eye effect, heavy black eyeliner, very contrasting clothing colours (black top, white/fair bottom), bright colours (pink, bright yellow, etc.), I would still never mix them with Western Europeans. Maybe in Germany girls dress a bit similar to that, idk.

What you described is something that girls who want to be "babes" do. Its the same all over the world. Babes want to be blonde and wear pink, those who want to be goth dye their hair black etc... Most Estonians dont like very bright colours. Which unfortunately is a fashion right now, the stores are full of ugly neon things.

Matilda
06-04-2012, 12:46 PM
From Romania
http://www.25h.ro/public_branded/diverse_craiova_2010-5-28_banchetplaza/bal28m022.JPG
http://milesmedia.ro/img/foto-banchet/1-27.jpg
http://img.kudika.ro/comunitate/photos/0/6/5/1105601.jpg
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg110/scaled.php?server=110&filename=6cgxur54293702ac7.jpg&res=landing
http://www.viatadeliceu.ro/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/banchet-nichita-stanescu-24.jpg
http://madalinutza.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/p1040214.jpg

Many people here buy cheap clothes and shoes made in China.

Drawing-slim
06-04-2012, 12:47 PM
...

korkolola
06-04-2012, 12:51 PM
What you described is something that girls who want to be "babes" do. Its the same all over the world. Babes want to be blonde and wear pink, those who want to be goth dye their hair black etc... Most Estonians dont like very bright colours. Which unfortunately is a fashion right now, the stores are full of ugly neon things.

Could be. :)

Rastko
06-04-2012, 12:57 PM
You will make fun of this statement but Albanians probably dress better than any other much richer or bigger countries. Same applies to other Balkan countries which are being criticised by members coming from Germany, Europe's capitol of fasion.

Laughable,indeed.

Once again:

Countries with Med coast > Rest of Europe.

/thread

korkolola
06-04-2012, 01:00 PM
You will make fun of this statement but Albanians probably dress better than any other much richer or bigger countries. Same applies to other Balkan countries which are being criticised by members coming from Germany, Europe's capitol of fasion.

Laughable,indeed.

Most of Croatian people that I know do indeed dress very well. Can't say the same about Slovenians, Macedonians. Serbs -yes.

jerney
06-04-2012, 01:04 PM
To the supermarket...

This: http://www.ilgiornaledellusso.it/wp-content/gallery/cool-e-kitsch-che-calzino-hai-combinato/calze-sandali.jpg

Is better than this: http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQN2W5OBI74SasSDZLScM6q6ikpRJY5p vwK3ieqSINfi6rZs0mdLDrXAecJ

it's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's not uncommon to see a Balkan or ex-Soviet female walking around like that in the middle of the day just to run errands.

It's one thing to dress bad, it's another to lack class.

Foxy
06-04-2012, 01:05 PM
I am talking about men. Italian men often = big brown belly sometimes with an undershirt, sometimes without it, young men just without the big belly and therefore with big chains and tons of mousse in their hair. I am not saying Germans are better, btw, I was talking about Estonians and Italians/French and I just said Italians arenīt better, not worse than Estonians. But ok, I bow before the greatness of southern food, looks, everything, as the Southern members have made it quite clear that everyone who lives not on the med coast is a pale, fat blonde swine without taste.

Eh? Italian men wearing BIG CHAINS AND UNDERSHIRT? WTF? They were not Italians, or, at least, none wears that way in Italy except gypsies.

Foxy
06-04-2012, 01:06 PM
To the supermarket...

This: http://www.ilgiornaledellusso.it/wp-content/gallery/cool-e-kitsch-che-calzino-hai-combinato/calze-sandali.jpg

Is better than this: http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQN2W5OBI74SasSDZLScM6q6ikpRJY5p vwK3ieqSINfi6rZs0mdLDrXAecJ

it's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's not uncommon to see a Balkan or ex-Soviet female walking around like that in the middle of the day just to run errands.

It's one thing to dress bad, it's another to lack class.

Yes but Italians wear dresses like that only in discos where exstravagance is allowed. But surely not outside, except maybe in some party.

Rastko
06-04-2012, 01:06 PM
it's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's not uncommon to see a Balkan or ex-Soviet female walking around like that in the middle of the day just to run errands.


It is.

ficuscarica
06-04-2012, 01:09 PM
Eh? Italian men wearing BIG CHAINS AND UNDERSHIRT? WTF? They were not Italians, or, at least, none wears that way in Italy except gypsies.

Whatever, just attack me for the big sin of saying I donīt see how Estonians are worse than Italians with their style. :rolleyes:

Gotta go get some pig fat to rob on my pale potato skin now, afterwards to the supermarket, thereīs a special offer for tennis socks. I gave up on becoming a mediterranean god, will always stay a Nordic/Germanic ugly non-fashion potato.

iNird
06-04-2012, 01:09 PM
Well sometimes women in the West dress to masculine. So I'd say Eastern though some of the sluts dress tacky (I'm not complaining though since it is nice eye candy most of the time :P)

jerney
06-04-2012, 01:09 PM
It is.

No it's not. I've seen it in all the places I've lived. In Greece I see it every day among both Greeks (not as common) and Slavic immigrants (more common). I've seen it among Slavic/Balkan immigrants in Germany. I've seen it among Russian/Ukrainian immigrant in the US.

Vasconcelos
06-04-2012, 01:10 PM
:rolleyes:

Most German women aren't dressing bad at all. You don't have to wear flashy clothes to dress well. Nothing wrong with cute, simple, and casual fashion.

Maybe Germans are a bit more spartan, perhaps? Nothing wrong with it, I'm pretty spartan myself when it comes to clothing..

Hurrem sultana
06-04-2012, 01:11 PM
if we talk about "every day life" clothing,then clearly eastern european women

but when western women dress up for going out/special occasions..then they dress better

Hilda
06-04-2012, 01:11 PM
I love/prefer how Western people wear clothing.
No need to explain. :)

Rastko
06-04-2012, 01:12 PM
No it's not. I've seen it in all the places I've lived. In Greece I see it every day among both Greeks (not as common) and Slavic immigrants (more common). I've seen it among Slavic/Balkan immigrants in Germany. I've seen it among Russian/Ukrainian immigrant in the US.

Live in your socks with sandals fantasy world.

Onur
06-04-2012, 01:16 PM
But why the white sock with the sandal?!?! Can't they wear sandals with no socks? Or at least don't wear WHITE socks, but black ones...
And the worse thing is, a German with these white socks and sandals walking in the sandy beach :D I see a lot of them here

Maybe they have ugly hobbit feet and thats why they wear socks, who knows? :D

Corvus
06-04-2012, 01:18 PM
Neither compared to the U.S. Americans.
They have the best taste without reflecting ;)

ficuscarica
06-04-2012, 01:18 PM
No it's not. I've seen it in all the places I've lived. In Greece I see it every day among both Greeks (not as common) and Slavic immigrants (more common). I've seen it among Slavic/Balkan immigrants in Germany. I've seen it among Russian/Ukrainian immigrant in the US.

As Germany/Northern countries are economically superior some people try to bash them in whatever other area they can (look like pale swine, terrible food, borring, narrow-minded, alcoholics, etc). Donīt take it away from them. Everybody needs a "punching-puppet" to feel better.

gold_fenix
06-04-2012, 01:20 PM
well in men the west, but in women is variable English and Dutch girls are terrible dressing and with the combination of colours and for example young Russian girls are very stylous

Hurrem sultana
06-04-2012, 01:21 PM
Out of all women,german women are the ones with worst sense for fashion.I mean...too masculine,they just think "as long as it is comfortable for me"(and beauty cant be only comfortable we know that)

iNird
06-04-2012, 01:22 PM
The stereotypical german tourists looks like this in the US.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a1h0se37u_8/TRCXPMwKlRI/AAAAAAAAAEc/vcn8YKusoY0/s1600/German+Tourists.jpg

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-04/05/xin_362040605073332811091.jpg

Socks with sandals, camera around their neck, big backpacks, fannie packs, sometimes they wear these ridiculous hats. I can spot them from a mile away. Sometimes I'll ramble a few German words to them for shits and giggles.

Is this how germans dress up when they go to work?



:D

jerney
06-04-2012, 01:23 PM
As Germany/Northern countries are economically superior some people try to bash them in whatever other area they can (look like pale swine, terrible food, borring, narrow-minded, alcoholics, etc). Donīt take it away from them. Everybody needs a "punching-puppet" to feel better.

Well, I don't necessarily agree with this. Northwestern countries are currently superior in terms of economy, quality of life, organization, productivity, all sort of things, but it doesn't mean that southern countries aren't superior in others. Acknowledging that doesn't mean it comes out of jealously, sometimes it's just true.

Hilda
06-04-2012, 01:25 PM
The stereotypical german tourists looks like this in the US.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a1h0se37u_8/TRCXPMwKlRI/AAAAAAAAAEc/vcn8YKusoY0/s1600/German+Tourists.jpg

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-04/05/xin_362040605073332811091.jpg

Socks with sandals, camera around their neck, big backpacks, fannie packs, sometimes they wear these ridiculous hats. I can spot them from a mile away. Sometimes I'll ramble a few German words to them for shits and giggles.

Is this how germans dress up when they go to work?



:D

No, this fashion is not bad at all.
Those German tourists are humble to know cultures of other countries.
At least they don't speak loud or drink a lot like Easterners. ;)

ficuscarica
06-04-2012, 01:25 PM
Well, I don't necessarily agree with this. Northwestern countries are currently superior in terms of economy, quality of life, organization, productivity, all sort of things, but it doesn't mean that southern countries aren't superior in others. Acknowledging that doesn't mean it comes out of jealously, sometimes it's just true.

Please re-read the anti-German postings in this thread and tell me whether they were made just to state an observation or because of hate and/or jelaousy. :rolleyes:

jerney
06-04-2012, 01:25 PM
The stereotypical german tourists looks like this in the US.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a1h0se37u_8/TRCXPMwKlRI/AAAAAAAAAEc/vcn8YKusoY0/s1600/German+Tourists.jpg

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-04/05/xin_362040605073332811091.jpg

Socks with sandals, camera around their neck, big backpacks, fannie packs, sometimes they wear these ridiculous hats. I can spot them from a mile away. Sometimes I'll ramble a few German words to them for shits and giggles.

Is this how germans dress up when they go to work?



:D

You don't want to see how the average American tourist looks like in Europe, believe me. ;)

And middle aged tourists are, on average, going to dress badly regardless of what nation they come from. When I started the thread I was mostly referring to women in their 20s, 30s and 40s

korkolola
06-04-2012, 01:30 PM
You don't want to see how the average American tourist looks like in Europe, believe me. ;)

And middle aged tourists are, on average, going to dress badly regardless of what nation they come from. When I started the thread I was mostly referring to women in their 20s, 30s and 40s

I agree. All middle-aged tourists look almost the same, regardless of their nationality.

jerney
06-04-2012, 01:31 PM
Please re-read the anti-German postings in this thread and tell me whether they were made just to state an observation or because of hate and/or jelaousy. :rolleyes:

I've commented negatively about some of the clothing choices of women in the Balkans and ex-Soviet countries in this thread and it doesn't make me anti-Russian or anti-Bulgarian, for example.

Corvus
06-04-2012, 01:31 PM
I think it is a dumb stereotyp that Germans in general don`t dress adequatly.
I have seen enough of them who are very conscious about what to wear and show some great instict of choice when it comes to this matter.
O.k. there are some who do not have this feeling or don`t care about it, but not more or less than in any other country.

iNird
06-04-2012, 01:33 PM
No, this fashion is not bad at all.
Those German tourists are humble to know cultures of other countries.
At least they don't speak loud or drink a lot like Easterners. ;)

I was just joking with you people. I don't expect these tourists to look like that in everyday life. Well I hope not.........

:P

ficuscarica
06-04-2012, 01:33 PM
I've commented negatively about some of the clothing choices of women in the Balkans and ex-Soviet countries in this thread and it doesn't make me anti-Russian or anti-Bulgarian, for example.

But there are not twenty Germans joining your cause with dozens of postings, clicking thanks for each others postings, etc.

Hurrem sultana
06-04-2012, 01:34 PM
When I started the thread I was mostly referring to women in their 20s, 30s and 40s

Go to Sarajevo and see how women in their 50-s dress,,,many of them dress better than western women in their 30s!

iNird
06-04-2012, 01:36 PM
You don't want to see how the average American tourist looks like in Europe, believe me. ;)

And middle aged tourists are, on average, going to dress badly regardless of what nation they come from. When I started the thread I was mostly referring to women in their 20s, 30s and 40s

How do they act like?

jerney
06-04-2012, 01:39 PM
But there are not twenty Germans joining your cause with dozens of postings, clicking thanks for each others postings, etc.

I can't answer for them, I can only assume that because it's known and acknowledged that NW Europe/Germany is more advanced in many aspects, so they are oversensitive to NW Europeans/Germans taking credit where they feel it's not due. (though a boring or "bad" dressing NW European still looks better than a Slav wearing a cheap-looking miniskirt with heels)

Hurrem sultana
06-04-2012, 01:40 PM
How do they act like?

american tourists are not popular in Europe,but they can be nice

iNird
06-04-2012, 01:42 PM
american tourists are not popular in Europe,but they can be nice

I suppose many of them are rude, expect you to know their language, loud and etc.

If you were a guy though you wouldn't be complaining. The female American tourists are known to be the easiest of them all.

arcticwolf
06-04-2012, 02:19 PM
As Germany/Northern countries are economically superior some people try to bash them in whatever other area they can (look like pale swine, terrible food, borring, narrow-minded, alcoholics, etc). Donīt take it away from them. Everybody needs a "punching-puppet" to feel better.

Dude this is so simple. Men should own only jeans, t-shirts and boots. ;) Stay with black, blue and grey colors. Anything else is metro! :p

Queen B
06-04-2012, 02:21 PM
None. Southern Europeans.

W. R.
06-04-2012, 02:23 PM
That is stupid. Estonians dont dress like Eastern Europeans.An Estonian friend of mine told me once that Estonians are usually dressed better than Finns, probably because of some Russian influence, because Finns don't care about their look as much as Russians do. True story.

don't read the whole thread @ reply immediately

arcticwolf
06-04-2012, 02:23 PM
As Germany/Northern countries are economically superior some people try to bash them in whatever other area they can (look like pale swine, terrible food, borring, narrow-minded, alcoholics, etc). Donīt take it away from them. Everybody needs a "punching-puppet" to feel better.

It's more action/reaction kinda thing. Just take a look what the ones in question say about the rest of us. It's not like the rest is just mean spirited. There is a cause to everything. ;)

Rouxinol
06-04-2012, 02:25 PM
I think it is a dumb stereotyp that Germans in general don`t dress adequatly.
I have seen enough of them who are very conscious about what to wear and show some great instict of choice when it comes to this matter.
O.k. there are some who do not have this feeling or don`t care about it, but not more or less than in any other country.

Germans tend to dress casually and sober, they don't like to flaunt their bodies nor brand clothes. They don't dress good nor bad... Except for the white socks+sandals many of them use especially abroad, which is really bad taste. Southern Euros in comparison dress much better when they go abroad.

My opinion is that classic Italian and English upper-class clothing styles are the best.

gold_fenix
06-04-2012, 02:40 PM
aprox 50-60 years ago the ellegancy of English or USA was really good, they had class in men and women

Turkophagos
06-04-2012, 02:42 PM
Eastern Europeans confuse "simple" with "plain". They generally get dressed very bad and tacky.


Greece is bordering with the most stylish Europeans (Italians) and the tackiest (Balkanians). So, fashion here varies from very stylish to very tacky.



Btw, Turks shouldn't be in the same group with either Eastern or Southern Europeans. They have their own patterns in terms of dressing and behaving:


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W. R.
06-04-2012, 02:45 PM
Eastern Europeans confuse "simple" with "plain". They generally get dressed very bad and tacky.We are too poor to dress well.

Queen B
06-04-2012, 02:49 PM
Btw, Turks shouldn't be in the same group with either Eastern or Southern Europeans. They have their own patterns in terms of dressing and behaving:

Turks are not Europeans to begin with.

Balmung
06-04-2012, 02:51 PM
Probably Western ones but I've seen a lot of English, Germans, Americans dressing dressing cheap and tacky so to speak, so I might as well exclude them. French and Italians should be the most well-dressed ones.

lolno.

Everything people have posted in this topic and claimed it 'good' is typical among surburban whites in the US especialy in large metropolitan areas. I think its funny how people truly believe its that exclusive.

Whats so special about what these italians are wearing thats so unique?

http://keoughp.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/italians.jpg
http://www.ruralintelligence.com/images/parties/Art_Omi_Party_009Italians600.jpghttp://www.bu.edu/com/files/ft/news-cms/photos/italians1.jpghttp://www.realbollywood.com/up_images/italians9730.jpghttp://farm4.staticflickr.com/3542/3816987571_c40fc85e67_z.jpg?zz=1http://inlittleitaly.com/media/pic_fest_crowd.jpg

Why do people love to post pictures showing off someone who meant to look good for the photo rather than average people. PS, the guy with the open white shirt looks totally gay with that crap on.

Hilda
06-04-2012, 03:10 PM
We are too poor to dress well.

....... Fashion is not come from the money.
But mostly, money controls fashion.

Dacul
06-04-2012, 03:12 PM
Romanians got americanized and are not dressing that beautifull as they dressed before,but is clear eastern Europe is way in front north Europe and western Europe.
Italy is not western Europe,they are dressing very beautiful.France is an exception.
North Europe are most lacked of tastes when it comes to dressing.
You do not know which the most beautifull city in North Europe?
Sankt Petersburg,but that is actually eastern Europe + italian ,since the architect that designed it was italian and Peter the Great was eastern european.

Anthropologique
06-04-2012, 03:31 PM
The West, obviously.

What a strange thread.

Midori
06-04-2012, 03:36 PM
We are too poor to dress well.

Yeah :(

Peyrol
06-04-2012, 03:40 PM
This should have been like "Southern Europeans vs Northern Europeans" not east vs west.

And definitely the southern Europeans had better fashion sense in the past and they still has the better today.

There isn't a north VS south dressing division, except for Britain :lol:

Himera
06-04-2012, 04:02 PM
I think those differences like between Greece and other slavic countries are because of commie regime. The ex-commie countries didn't have any proper fashion sense because they were just simple proletarians while Greece was never under this kind of regime.

So, i say the central and southern Europeans have the best fashion sense excluding the ex-commie ones.

:p:p:p:coffee:

No honey, it's not cause by "commie regime", it's a "turkish coma" and it has continued through the centuries ... we're just waiting for a Prince von Gute Faschion Sentze to awake us , ...we deserve that!:(:D

Talvi
06-04-2012, 04:43 PM
Btw, Turks shouldn't be in the same group with either Eastern or Southern Europeans. They have their own patterns in terms of dressing and behaving:



Turkish women seemed very fashionable to me.

Midori
06-04-2012, 04:49 PM
Turkish women seemed very fashionable to me.

You find wearing a Burka fashionable? :biggrin:

Γέλως
06-04-2012, 04:52 PM
You find wearing a Burka fashionable? :biggrin:
Mary's one looks really good.

Jarl
06-04-2012, 04:55 PM
Southern Europeans ;)

Duke
06-04-2012, 05:04 PM
Ill give you some examples from my town

http://modakomoda.tportal.hr/ulicnamoda/187488/Splitski-alternativci-vs-sminkeri.html
http://modakomoda.tportal.hr/ulicnamoda/178769/split-05.html
http://modakomoda.tportal.hr/ulicnamoda/169928/sto-juznije-to-veselije.html
http://modakomoda.tportal.hr/ulicnamoda/166012/Skockani-Splicani-na-najlipsoj-rivi.html
http://modakomoda.tportal.hr/ulicnamoda/162089/U-Splitu-sve-prsti-od-boja.html

Archduke
06-04-2012, 05:07 PM
Eastern Europeans confuse "simple" with "plain". They generally get dressed very bad and tacky.


Greece is bordering with the most stylish Europeans (Italians) and the tackiest (Balkanians). So, fashion here varies from very stylish to very tacky.


I doubt that greeks dress better than bulgarians, albanians, serbs and other balkanians.

Lithium
06-04-2012, 05:13 PM
It's full of cheap and trashy dressed people here but they aren't the average, they are what I consider low class.The South Slavic "fashion trends" are really bad looking but they are far from the average looking people, I guess. Most of the Northern tourists I see here are dressed worse and ridiculous and I do consider them to be worse dressed .

arcticwolf
06-04-2012, 05:20 PM
Is it me or is population in Europe getting more husky? Europeans used to be so thin in general, what happened lately?

Lithium
06-04-2012, 05:21 PM
Is it me or is population in Europe getting more husky? Europeans used to be so thin in general, what happened lately?

McDonalds and KFC "happened" :D

Mary
06-04-2012, 05:23 PM
Eastern Europeans. With the exception of Rumanians.

Talvi
06-04-2012, 05:25 PM
You find wearing a Burka fashionable? :biggrin:

I only saw 1 woman in a burka and she was a tourist in Aya Sofia.
Alltogether I was in 3 different cities.

Matilda
06-04-2012, 05:25 PM
Eastern Europeans. With the exception of Rumanians.
Sure. We dress like this:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zXG6FNViXBo/T2jyljQcQWI/AAAAAAAAASo/DZ4rzNFJOzo/s320/babe-din-moisei-mag-300x254.jpg

Midori
06-04-2012, 05:27 PM
I only saw 1 woman in a burka and she was a tourist in Aya Sofia.
Alltogether I was in 3 different cities.

Okay replace burka with hijab then, it's the same thing

KidMulat
06-04-2012, 05:27 PM
In terms of Fashion Houses I can think of none in Eastern Europe of any noteriety. Most people with money go to Chanel, D&G, Loius Vuitton, Versace, etc....

I will say though it most be cheaper to buy over their because most upper-middle class looking tourists (French/Germans) dress in labels, but then I see them buy GAP and Abercrombie and Fitch and I'm like :confused: So I guess its only expensive because of the import taxes...

Oh and looking at the pretty Ukranian and Russian nannies in the Jewish neighborhood I would say the sterotypical look still exists.

Onur
06-04-2012, 05:28 PM
I only saw 1 woman in a burka and she was a tourist in Aya Sofia.
Alltogether I was in 3 different cities.
Leave Criterion alone Talvi. He is a Turk in denial. Did you see his picture? I saw recently and i can say that 99 out of 100 people in the world finds him Turkish.

He is just self-hating Turk, a Greek wannabe :)



Sure. We dress like this:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zXG6FNViXBo/T2jyljQcQWI/AAAAAAAAASo/DZ4rzNFJOzo/s320/babe-din-moisei-mag-300x254.jpg
To me, this is better than some German fashion. It`s just the lady in the right side needs a boob job :D

Mary
06-04-2012, 05:29 PM
Sure. We dress like this:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zXG6FNViXBo/T2jyljQcQWI/AAAAAAAAASo/DZ4rzNFJOzo/s320/babe-din-moisei-mag-300x254.jpg

No, that's stylish. It's the "French" stuff with frills and dots that people in the cities wear. And the short sleeved shirts on men, what is up with that?

arcticwolf
06-04-2012, 05:30 PM
McDonalds and KFC "happened" :D

That's so sad. :(

Mary
06-04-2012, 05:30 PM
Okay replace burka with hijab then, it's the same thing

Hijab is stylish.

Talvi
06-04-2012, 05:31 PM
Okay replace burka with hijab then, it's the same thing

There were women wearing them but it was only a small minority.

Also, it only covers the hair, not their clothes so they can still be fashionable ;)

Mraz
06-04-2012, 06:23 PM
Whatever, Eastern European women look better.

Aces High
06-04-2012, 06:25 PM
Italians have the best fashion sense...so southern Europe would be the winner.

Hurrem sultana
06-04-2012, 06:28 PM
There were women wearing them but it was only a small minority.

Also, it only covers the hair, not their clothes so they can still be fashionable ;)

turkish hijab style looks nice,look at them:

http://hijabella.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/untitled-15.jpg?w=500

http://hijabella.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/untitled-10.jpg?w=500

ficuscarica
06-04-2012, 06:29 PM
looks like an alien, terrible

ficuscarica
06-04-2012, 06:31 PM
Who knows "The Fifth Element"?

http://www.jonsorensen.co.uk/mediac/400_0/media/Coppinger~Diva~Fifth~Element.JPG

http://hijabella.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/untitled-10.jpg?w=500[/QUOTE]

Onur
06-04-2012, 06:32 PM
turkish hijab style looks nice,look at them:
Noes, not you Bosnian.

I hate these freaks but hopefully there are so few of them in the city i live here.


Who knows "The Fifth Element"?
I find their head similar to coneheads;

http://www.remotecentral.com/dvd/coneheads-2.jpg

iNird
06-04-2012, 06:33 PM
turkish hijab style looks nice,look at them:

http://hijabella.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/untitled-15.jpg?w=500

http://hijabella.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/untitled-10.jpg?w=500

oh hell nawwwwwww

:mad:

Aces High
06-04-2012, 06:42 PM
Hijab is stylish.

Mary......you wear what are some of the ugliest soviet era shoes i have ever seen.....that must have been bought with ration stamps or bartered for some flour or some other such hard to come by item.
Please dont talk about style.;)

Hurrem sultana
06-04-2012, 06:47 PM
Mary......you wear what are some of the ugliest soviet era shoes i have ever seen.....that must have been bought with ration stamps or bartered for some flour or some other such hard to come by item.
Please dont talk about style.;)

:D


you are old enough that you should realize that it is the person that wears them that matters...you can wear the most newest fashion from Paris but if you are ugly it looks ugly

you can wear old fashion clothes,if youl ook good,,it looks trendy on you

arcticwolf
06-04-2012, 06:48 PM
Who knows "The Fifth Element"?

http://www.jonsorensen.co.uk/mediac/400_0/media/Coppinger~Diva~Fifth~Element.JPG

http://hijabella.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/untitled-10.jpg?w=500[/QUOTE]

:D

Hurrem sultana
06-04-2012, 06:50 PM
i guess they are aliens ;) :D

Pallantides
06-04-2012, 06:51 PM
Flush the fashion.

Flintlocke
06-04-2012, 06:52 PM
The muslim founders were a bunch of cunts, dressing women like this in the middle of the desert where there's always hot and sand enters your cavities all the time.

ficuscarica
06-04-2012, 06:52 PM
I have to admit that it has the effect they want. Even a good-looking woman will look terrible and totally uninteresting with that thing on, but at the same time it destroys the personīs appearance and personality quite a bit. It is like a form of "quasimodoing" them.

Aces High
06-04-2012, 06:53 PM
Some of thoseTurks in headscarves dont look too bad in a sort of early 60's retro kind of way......a bit Mary Tyler Moore meets Sophia Loren combo.

The killer though is the toe length skirt.

member
06-04-2012, 06:57 PM
I don't really care.

member
06-04-2012, 07:07 PM
As for Lithuania, I think there are a lot of people who dress well here, but it also depends a lot on city/social status, things like that.

Fashion sense in Lithuania has changed a lot during the last ~ 6 years. Much more less tacky clothing, less very bleached hair.

More comfortable and at the same time more stylish, imo. At least among young people.

I remember in my school everyone dressed kind of the way I described. There was one girl ho wore pink high heels with pointy noses but she got comments about it. Apparently such clothing wasn't very outstanding in her previous school. My school was a bit better, btw.

I've seen one girl with those tacky high heels with pointy noses and tacky purse several months ago. Looked rather exceptional today. She had such a a beautiful face, it just felt wrong.

Anyway, I think that this comfortable, stylish and perhaps "earthy" fashion of clothing is ok. at least it corresponds better to our historical fashion and the feel of aesthetics which is nowhere close to tacky, imho.

Talvi
06-04-2012, 09:03 PM
An Estonian friend of mine told me once that Estonians are usually dressed better than Finns, probably because of some Russian influence, because Finns don't care about their look as much as Russians do. True story.

don't read the whole thread @ reply immediately

No. Finns dress differently because they all want to look hardcore/alternative. Short colourful hair, piercings and such. Not to mention that the average Finn is much heavier than the average Estonian... which means that there are less clothes choices :P

Comte Arnau
06-04-2012, 10:02 PM
Long skirt is still common among Eastern Europeans.

Mary
06-04-2012, 10:11 PM
Mary......you wear what are some of the ugliest soviet era shoes i have ever seen.....that must have been bought with ration stamps or bartered for some flour or some other such hard to come by item.
Please dont talk about style.;)

The sandals? I bought them in your country. What's wrong with them?

Albion
06-04-2012, 11:31 PM
Eastern Europe is always like ten years behind in fashion compared to Britain's 3 years behind. Western Europe has the better fashion sense but I think it varies - Romance countries are more fashionable whereas Germanics more practical.

Fortis in Arduis
06-05-2012, 03:34 AM
Polacks in puffer jackets and fluoro and reflective gear at raves which are out of date anyway.

Pretty much. :)

2Cool
06-05-2012, 03:59 AM
Western Europe and it's not even a contest.

StonyArabia
06-05-2012, 04:07 AM
After posting in this (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50854) thread, I was wondering what the general consensus is on this? I thought it was quite unanimous, but it seems some people are disagreeing with me. In my opinion, it's no question that western European women, on average, dress in a much classier manner then those in the east.The one exception here would be a certain group of lower class Brits that seem to enjoy dressing in a way that would be more common in Russia than northwestern Europe.

This is the map that correlates with what I consider "east" and "west" in this context, though I think Poland and Czech Republic are borderline and I'm not really sure how Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia fit in. I'm not really familiar with their dressing habits or fashion.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg26/scaled.php?server=26&filename=eastandwesteurope.png&res=landing

The Caucasus was cut of hehehe

Il Principe
06-05-2012, 04:28 AM
Western Europe, and the mere comparison is absurd. Although the Latins have a slight edge in style and aesthetic radiance, while Germanics tend to the more comfortable and practical (but often also stylish in a more subtle way). Italy and France would be tied for the first place in a fashion contest, with Nordic Europe not far behind.


Eastern Europe is always like ten years behind in fashion compared to Britain's 3 years behind.
I saw a most strange sight yesterday, on my way home. It looked like the special coloring groups from the local Netto had escaped into the streets, for they all wore tracksuits and orange jackets that glowed of neon. But no, they were merely Eastern Europeans.

Aces High
06-05-2012, 05:17 AM
Eastern Europe is sponsored by Adidas.

Drawing-slim
06-05-2012, 05:19 AM
Lol

member
06-05-2012, 07:24 AM
Eastern Europe is sponsored by Adidas.

Agree :)

Actually there is a whole category of people, a class of their own, who wear adidas. they're not very peaceful and intelligent men if you understand what I mean :rolleyes:

Foxy
06-05-2012, 07:36 AM
Western Europe, and the mere comparison is absurd. Although the Latins have a slight edge in style and aesthetic radiance, while Germanics tend to the more comfortable and practical (but often also stylish in a more subtle way). Italy and France would be tied for the first place in a fashion contest, with Nordic Europe not far behind.


I saw a most strange sight yesterday, on my way home. It looked like the special coloring groups from the local Netto had escaped into the streets, for they all wore tracksuits and orange jackets that glowed of neon. But no, they were merely Eastern Europeans.

There are differences between French style and Italian style.
When I think to French style I imagine short hair and just a very small jewel, while Italian style I imagine long hair and more accessorizes.

French

http://img.over-blog.com/600x450/2/00/06/89/suite_70/Alessandra-Sublet_9N001b.jpg

Italian

http://im2.freeforumzone.it/up/20/39/842620380.jpg

Padre Organtino
06-05-2012, 07:40 AM
Agree :)

Actually there is a whole category of people, a class of their own, who wear adidas. they're not very peaceful and intelligent men if you understand what I mean :rolleyes:

They're nice fellas, aren't they:

http://insurgent.ru/sites/default/files/raznoe/gop.jpg

member
06-05-2012, 08:01 AM
Street fashion of Vilnius, the Lithuanian capital.
http://www.balsas.lt/naujiena/493871/vasariskas-vilniaus-gatviu-stilius-foto/rubrika:naujienos-gyvenimas-stilius#965-169359

click on the boxes below the picture. (http://www.alfa.lt/straipsnis/10369296/Skurdus.Vilniaus.gatves.stilius..paprastumas.ir.kl asika=2010-06-08_12-06/)
^^
Two years ago.



Vilnius's winter style one year ago:
http://gyvenimas.delfi.lt/style/vilniaus-gatves-stilius.d?id=41208939

Vilnius's spring style, this year:
http://zebra.15min.lt/lt/laikas_sau/stilius/pavasarejancio-vilniaus-gatves-mada-267490.html

Talvi
06-05-2012, 08:47 AM
Some more Estonians:

http://images2.chictopia.com/photos/POunpuu/7835953915/brick-red-amisu-jeans-black-lindex-hat-sky-blue-denim-calvin-klein-shirt_400.jpg

http://images3.chictopia.com/photos/POunpuu/1673724105/ruby-red-amisu-jeans-dark-green-kappahl-jacket-white-thrifted-shirt_400.jpg

http://images1.chictopia.com/photos/POunpuu/8687056544/salmon-floral-thrifted-top-peach-selfmade-skirt-eggshell-random-heels_400.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2626/3955057611_99f5355996_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3427/3750027152_bfa4c27b95_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3656/3676469874_dec6c19428_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3302/3650736981_07ec3eacab_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2703471236_01f2454d0e.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2012/2538679413_232eca7086.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1265/1250315625_8bf70ad006.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1407/1251156612_4a0a084c31.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1077/1025270693_94581022c8.jpg?v=0

Peyrol
06-05-2012, 09:06 AM
lolno.

Everything people have posted in this topic and claimed it 'good' is typical among surburban whites in the US especialy in large metropolitan areas. I think its funny how people truly believe its that exclusive.

Whats so special about what these italians are wearing thats so unique?

http://keoughp.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/italians.jpg
http://www.ruralintelligence.com/images/parties/Art_Omi_Party_009Italians600.jpghttp://www.bu.edu/com/files/ft/news-cms/photos/italians1.jpghttp://www.realbollywood.com/up_images/italians9730.jpghttp://farm4.staticflickr.com/3542/3816987571_c40fc85e67_z.jpg?zz=1http://inlittleitaly.com/media/pic_fest_crowd.jpg

Why do people love to post pictures showing off someone who meant to look good for the photo rather than average people. PS, the guy with the open white shirt looks totally gay with that crap on.

They aren't italians but italian americans of ital. descents.

Fortis in Arduis
06-05-2012, 09:08 AM
Sartorial anguish awaits me as I have a holiday planned in Northern Italy. Brits wear suits suits and more suits in London, but our smart casual simply looks ragged next to Italian style. What ever to wear?

However, there is Essex, where girls go to the supermarket dressed like this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CBDO9y8F_lw/TbMx24JhuNI/AAAAAAAAAVs/v0BNkkDZZqA/s1600/MINNIES11.jpg

Peyrol
06-05-2012, 09:10 AM
Eastern Europeans. With the exception of Rumanians.

Yea, wearing an ušanka driving a Trabant is the best style on planet.

finþaų
06-05-2012, 09:12 AM
In Sweden we like our fashion a little rough, to remind us of Þe olden days.

http://i.imgur.com/dectu.jpg

Highly typical vikings preparing to sack some unfortunate Untermenschenland.

ficuscarica
06-05-2012, 09:13 AM
That pic must be a joke, it just canīt be real.

Paluga
06-05-2012, 09:16 AM
That pic must be a joke, it just canīt be real.

must be from a gay bar.

CelticViking
06-05-2012, 09:17 AM
1200-1800- France,Netherlands,Italy & England.

Peyrol
06-05-2012, 09:18 AM
That pic must be a joke, it just canīt be real.

It isn't, the hyper-tanning unfortunately is a global sick trend...:rolleyes:

http://www.isaechia.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Marika-Baldini-11.jpg

Fortis in Arduis
06-05-2012, 09:34 AM
Yea, wearing an ušanka driving a Trabant is the best style on planet.

Sabinae must have passed you by... *sigh*


Like the fragrance of a rose.

Panopticon
06-05-2012, 10:02 AM
I think Westerners have better a better sense of fasion than Eastern Europeans. It's not always the case though. In the Balkans they tend to emulate Western European clothing, especially Italian fashion, which is probably the best. It's definitely the case for Albania. Putting Eastern Europe against Western Europe is also a very simplistic and too broad grouping as there are very clear and large differences inside those groups.

And in general, I think the negative aspects of Eastern European sense of fashion is characterized of being cheap, tacky and distasteful; their sense of fashion is affected by their socio-economic status, being relatively new to the world of fashion and capitalism. The negative aspects of Western European is characterized by silly fashion trends, trying too hard and apathy towards fashion (something which I'm not against).

This comes from a guy who dresses in anything that incorporates socks, shoes, boxer-shorts, jeans, belt, shirt, etc. and doesn't think of it much beyond that. I might not be the most reliable person on this issue.


In Sweden we like our fashion a little rough, to remind us of Þe olden days.

http://i.imgur.com/dectu.jpg

Highly typical vikings preparing to sack some unfortunate Untermenschenland.

I've never seen anyone but Scandinavians dress like that. At the same time, I rarely see Scandinavians going around casually in sportswear, running shoes being the exception. Guys like these aren't the norm either.

Ushtari
06-05-2012, 10:03 AM
Ill give you some examples from my town

http://modakomoda.tportal.hr/ulicnamoda/187488/Splitski-alternativci-vs-sminkeri.html
http://modakomoda.tportal.hr/ulicnamoda/178769/split-05.html
http://modakomoda.tportal.hr/ulicnamoda/169928/sto-juznije-to-veselije.html
http://modakomoda.tportal.hr/ulicnamoda/166012/Skockani-Splicani-na-najlipsoj-rivi.html
http://modakomoda.tportal.hr/ulicnamoda/162089/U-Splitu-sve-prsti-od-boja.html
They look Meghreb

Mary
06-05-2012, 11:11 AM
Yea, wearing an ušanka driving a Trabant is the best style on planet.

The Usanka is pretty nice, warm in the winter. And the Trabant is a collectors item. So take your Gucci bag and drive off in your Fiat.

Peyrol
06-05-2012, 11:57 AM
The Usanka is pretty nice, warm in the winter. And the Trabant is a collectors item. So take your Gucci bag and drive off in your Fiat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

:rolleyes:

Peyrol
06-05-2012, 12:03 PM
What's wrong with FIAT group cars?

http://www.nevigomme.com/_media/images/offerte_ebay/cerchi/offerte_lancia/nuovadelta_18/nuova_lancia_delta_4_18.jpg

http://www.alfamitotuning.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/MG_1344.jpg

http://www.motorilive.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/229353_8611_big_050210_Alfa_Giulietta_001-500x333.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/nicecars/automase1.jpg

http://img.automobile.de/modellbilder/Maserati-Coup%C3%A9-21092_1205142066565.jpg

http://www.golook.it/Immagini%20Articoli/ferrari458italia2.jpg

Drawing-slim
06-05-2012, 01:01 PM
...

Mary
06-05-2012, 01:08 PM
What's wrong with FIAT group cars?

It's gay.

S6bVhEdQMZw

Vatan
06-05-2012, 03:35 PM
Eastern Europe is like 10 years behind the West in terms of fashion sense :P

Tony
06-05-2012, 06:17 PM
Westerners of course.

This is the way Easterns generally dress even when in love mood...

2e6OoeY1X8c


Eastern Europe is like 10 years behind the West in terms of fashion sense :P

yeah, at least.
And people from Caucasus and Central Asia are even more backward.
Sometimes it seems they live in the '60s...

aimar
06-05-2012, 09:15 PM
portuguese, spanish,french,italians>all

Comte Arnau
06-06-2012, 12:18 AM
http://oi49.tinypic.com/2j5xk51.jpg

Talvi
06-06-2012, 07:08 AM
http://oi49.tinypic.com/2j5xk51.jpg

I can see that your summers are so cold and ours so so hot :D

Horseman
06-06-2012, 07:50 AM
In Sweden we like our fashion a little rough, to remind us of Þe olden days.

http://i.imgur.com/dectu.jpg

Highly typical vikings preparing to sack some unfortunate Untermenschenland.

Excuse me, but ..... who are these .... people? They look a little strange ... Is that picture from the 80s? This one in the middle, looks like Limahl
http://www.radioszczecin.pl/public/188/710.jpg

Sabinae
06-06-2012, 07:56 AM
You shouldn't all pose supermodels here :D and catalogue photos... we all know people in everyday life, while going to work, on average(I'm talking in terms of average age, shape and financial state) don't really wear all that stuff. And mind you... I'm not even bringing into discussion religion, because that would also have an impact on the individual and how they dress.

The Western tend to go for the more "comfortable", paying attention to the "practical", and the East chooses to rebel against restriction(a clean connection of past events, political if I might add).

Who is better? Well... I'm no fashion mogul, and this whole industry if analyzed can turn out quite impressive and sophisticated, no matter the region. "Better" is what I'd say... whatever suits each and every person. "Better" is according to one's likes/dislikes, education and background. The answer can greatly vary.

From my point of view, best is some blend of the two :).

beaver
06-06-2012, 07:57 AM
Italia

Strawberry
06-06-2012, 08:32 AM
Sorry but All the Southern european girls ive seen walk around with boring jeans, t-shirt/hoody and trainers with a big backpack on their back and no make-up.

And the west is ahead of everyone in term of fashion

Talvi
06-06-2012, 09:30 AM
Sorry but All the Southern european girls ive seen walk around with boring jeans, t-shirt/hoody and trainers with a big backpack on their back and no make-up.

And the west is ahead of everyone in term of fashion

Ive noticed the same. The Southern European exchange students here, Especially Spanish girls dress very plain. Jeans, t-shirt and a hoodie. While Estonians dress comfortably, Spanish girls dress super comfortably and they dont bother to do anything with their hair either.

Christian552
06-11-2012, 04:12 AM
Lol is this a joke?

Anyways Western Europe. Eastern Europe and their post-communist fashions do not appeal to me. ;)

Christian552
06-11-2012, 04:14 AM
-...-

Radogost
06-11-2012, 04:24 AM
both have unique style that fit their needs. also you forgot southern Europeans

Radogost
06-11-2012, 04:25 AM
I always think Finland is on Eastern Europe.

Arne
06-11-2012, 04:26 AM
West Germans

Radogost
06-11-2012, 04:26 AM
English I think has best sense of fashion followed quickly by French.

safinator
05-13-2013, 11:51 AM
both have unique style that fit their needs. also you forgot southern Europeans

Southern Euros are usually considered western though.

Comte Arnau
05-13-2013, 07:13 PM
Ive noticed the same. The Southern European exchange students here, Especially Spanish girls dress very plain. Jeans, t-shirt and a hoodie. While Estonians dress comfortably, Spanish girls dress super comfortably and they dont bother to do anything with their hair either.

Western girls in general (Brits aside) dress comfortably on a daily basis and less so when going out at night or special occasions. Also, I'd say the use of skirts is almost atypical in the West but still relatively common in the East.

Not a Cop
05-14-2013, 05:19 PM
I think Amsterdam is the city with highest percent of people, who care about the style

gregorius
05-14-2013, 05:21 PM
Gypsies dress very good, Because they are aryan

Swearengen
05-17-2013, 05:35 AM
Western euros try way too hard. Eastern euros don't try hard enough.

CrystalMaiden
05-17-2013, 05:55 AM
RAAŠŠAA STRONK!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFciDkipObY

Shkembe Chorba
05-17-2013, 12:32 PM
http://i.imgur.com/b8fsjBb.jpg

Collar Up, You Ignorant Fashion Westerners!

Wolf
05-17-2013, 12:55 PM
Obviously both of them have no real sense of style, but Western Europeans appear slightly better.

By the way, the majority of elegant fashion is still produced in Western Europe.

Kalimtari
02-13-2014, 11:45 AM
West ofc

arcticwolf
02-13-2014, 01:56 PM
Why do I feel like I need to take a shower when I see men discuss fashion? WTF. :laugh:

Tereon
02-23-2014, 02:42 PM
Itīs different from person to person, I donīt think you can judge the whole fashion sense of such big regions

Baldur
02-23-2014, 02:50 PM
Probably depends on each country as well and what you consider to be good fashion sense. I mean some people seem to think walking around in a pyjamas is a good fashion sense.

Shkembe Chorba
02-23-2014, 06:28 PM
Bulgaria.

Bohemian Fury
03-13-2014, 01:51 AM
da westtt

Shkembe Chorba
03-14-2014, 07:27 PM
Westeners dress very funny.

armenianbodyhair
03-14-2014, 07:32 PM
Western Europeans can get way to hipster, Eastern Europeans can get way to...well...exactly the opposite.

Dandelion
03-14-2014, 07:38 PM
Both have their charms, but I've voted Eastern European just to go against the flow (very Western European would-be hipster trait I guess). Still sometimes extravagance can be interesting as well, ...

Shkembe Chorba
03-14-2014, 07:41 PM
Western Europeans can get way to hipster, Eastern Europeans can get way to...well...exactly the opposite.
http://cdn.superbwallpapers.com/wallpapers/celebrities/sasha-grey-6822-400x250.jpg

bimo
03-14-2014, 07:45 PM
can't say , because european fashion sense isn't only eastern and western , bulgarians have different fashion sense compared to russian , italians different compared to germans and spaniards different compared to britts

not to mention can change even between neighboors countries

Shkembe Chorba
03-16-2014, 05:52 PM
Westeners:

http://i.imgur.com/Fppn0sW.jpg

My friends:

http://i.imgur.com/0W5Ngs9.png

Foxy
11-03-2014, 07:52 PM
Ive noticed the same. The Southern European exchange students here, Especially Spanish girls dress very plain. Jeans, t-shirt and a hoodie. While Estonians dress comfortably, Spanish girls dress super comfortably and they dont bother to do anything with their hair either.

That's true also for many Italian women, but not for me. I mixed Italian clothes and Russian femininity and I created my superstyle that is the best.
Yes, I am the one that wears better spending few money. However my mother works in fashion for some luxury brands so I have grown up with style.

Shkembe Chorba
11-04-2014, 07:13 AM
Remove hipster.

Talvi
11-07-2014, 11:49 AM
That's true also for many Italian women, but not for me. I mixed Italian clothes and Russian femininity and I created my superstyle that is the best.
Yes, I am the one that wears better spending few money. However my mother works in fashion for some luxury brands so I have grown up with style.

Russian "femininity".Gross.
Also the self praise. Super unattractive.

Plavuša
11-07-2014, 12:06 PM
Well, in Germany and England people dress really ugly (on average), but in Spain, Italy and France they have a very good sense how to dress. Eastern Europeans, well, the women dress much more "feminin" but often also very "cheap", while men are so much into that pyjama style (sportive dresses from adidas etc). it's hard to say, but for me, the SOUTHERN europeans dress the best.

morski
11-07-2014, 12:21 PM
http://i49.vbox7.com/o/ce4/ce427f76160.jpg

Hardcore Burgadidas Meden Rudnik!

Grenzland
11-07-2014, 12:23 PM
Eastern Europe:

http://slavsquat.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/68.jpg

:D


But to be honest, in Germany the people don't really are stylish in general

Rugevit
11-07-2014, 12:26 PM
That is stupid. Estonians dont dress like Eastern Europeans.

I visited Estonia. Estonians do dress like eastern Europeans. Eastern European does not mean to be like Russian or Ukrainian. There are differences among eastern Europeans and among western Europeans.

Alessio
11-07-2014, 12:39 PM
Western Europeans by farrrrrrr

Stimpy
11-07-2014, 12:39 PM
Scandinavians and most Southern-European countries are the most fashionable for some reason IMO.

Arianiti
11-07-2014, 12:44 PM
France, Italy and former Yugoslavia people imo, including Kosovo, especially when speaking of women.

I do not think that France and other Westerners have the same taste in fashion so you can not make such a division.

Raikaswinþs
11-07-2014, 01:00 PM
After posting in this (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50854) thread, I was wondering what the general consensus is on this? I thought it was quite unanimous, but it seems some people are disagreeing with me. In my opinion, it's no question that western European women, on average, dress in a much classier manner then those in the east.

If you are talking about Parisians I agree. But Paris =/= Western Europe. Everywhere else in the West there's a mixture of elegant, tacky,hipstery and dowright trashy.



The one exception here would be a certain group of lower class Brits that seem to enjoy dressing in a way that would be more common in Russia than northwestern Europe.

LOOOOOOOOOOOL "a certain group",. You get the award of "understatement of the week". You are talking about the entire working class which, in a country with one of the wider economic gaps of the entire west, composes an important chunk of the population. At least 40% in the city I live in, which is one of the most better-off and educated in the nation, and famous for being "chic" and "stilysh" (in the British sense, that is)

British "classy" girls tend to overdress and generally look more "funny" (in the "silly/impractical/try-too-hard way) than "elegant". Just because the obsess about clothing and they spend craploads of cash on styling and are very self-aware about their sense of fashion, doesn't mean their sense of fashion is really any better.It is the same with food. Just because UK is obsessed now with food and people are a lot more aware and tehre are a lot more good restaurants than it used to, it doesn't mean that Britons eat any better than their neighbours. They still pretty much "don't know what they're doing" like that funny dogue meme. Also male's hairstyles in the UK are all stupid. ALL.OF.THEM


Warsaw "classy" gals dress a lot better. The Spanish and Italian "classy" people dress a lot better too (yet still far from Parisians, and of course the sense of style of the majority of the Spanish and Italian population is more than "dubious" and in many senses not very aestheticaly pleasing. It just so happens that better weather and better looking people, allows for more simplicity and that somehow camouflages the lack of taste).

And let's not even start with German or Scandinavians (ROLLOLOLL) , specially the Scando guys are an authentic laughing stock. As an average, educated people from Eastern countries have a better sense of style than average westerners. It's just that the majority of Easterners that we see in the west are either working class or newly rich, which is pretty much the same people but with more money.

Leo Iscariot
11-08-2014, 01:12 AM
Russian "femininity".Gross.
Also the self praise. Super unattractive.

Russian women aren't feminine?

Talvi
11-14-2014, 12:42 AM
Russian women aren't feminine?

Only if your definition of femininity is the same as the definition for "fakeness". Like everything that means to be a woman is some sort of a charade.

Talvi
11-14-2014, 12:44 AM
I visited Estonia. Estonians do dress like eastern Europeans. Eastern European does not mean to be like Russian or Ukrainian. There are differences among eastern Europeans and among western Europeans.

Heres a skill you probably lack - being able to tell who is Russian and who is Estonian by the way they dress. (on the street in Estonia)

DīSanglard
11-14-2014, 12:52 AM
Western europeans without a doubt

Rugevit
11-14-2014, 12:53 AM
Heres a skill you probably lack - being able to tell who is Russian and who is Estonian by the way they dress. (on the street in Estonia)

I don't lack that particular skill. Estonians are basically eastern European in every aspect. My observation is supported by a Swedish exchange student who lived in Estonia for a year.

Leo Iscariot
11-14-2014, 03:10 AM
Only if your definition of femininity is the same as the definition for "fakeness". Like everything that means to be a woman is some sort of a charade.

What do they consider to be feminine then?

Obscene
11-14-2014, 05:39 AM
Western Europeans.

Queen B
11-14-2014, 05:42 AM
I'll say it again - Southern European

Shkembe Chorba
11-14-2014, 07:02 AM
Western europeans without a doubt

I have doubts.

Красавчик
11-14-2014, 07:26 AM
This thread is pointless.

However, I have voted for Eastern Europeans because of Russians.

Russians are much better dressed than Europeans generally.

Mr.Majestic
11-14-2014, 07:27 AM
This thread is pointless.

However, I have voted for Eastern Europeans because of Russians.

Russians are much better dressed than Europeans generally.

Hahahaha!

And the award for trolling of the day goes to...

Almost every single Russian I've met (Including the times I've been to Russia), have been wearing ill-fitting and just plain out ugly stuff.

The Russian women, in general (and I do realize that there are exceptions), just seem to dress vulgar and tasteless.

IMO, French and British have the best fashion sense, in general. Talking about everyday people you'll see on the street.
I'd like to say Stockholmers, but after trips to Paris and London, I have come to realize that we are pretty much just copying Parisians and Londoners, one year behind :P

Красавчик
11-14-2014, 07:40 AM
Hahahaha!

And the award for trolling of the day goes to...

Almost every single Russian I've met (Including the times I've been to Russia), have been wearing ill-fitting and just plain out ugly stuff.

The Russian women, in general (and I do realize that there are exceptions), just seem to dress vulgar and tasteless.

IMO, French and British have the best fashion sense, in general. Talking about everyday people you'll see on the street.
I'd like to say Stockholmers, but after trips to Paris and London, I have come to realize that we are pretty much just copying Parisians and Londoners, one year behind :P

I can't agree with this.

Maybe you know the wrong people.

Mr.Majestic
11-14-2014, 07:44 AM
I can't agree with this.

Maybe you know the wrong people.

I guess it all depends on what preferences we have.

Cultural standards have made fashion very subjective, rather than plain objective, and thus "fashionable" will be very different from country to country. :)

Красавчик
11-14-2014, 08:21 AM
I guess it all depends on what preferences we have.

Cultural standards have made fashion very subjective, rather than plain objective, and thus "fashionable" will be very different from country to country. :)

Many people in Scandinavia (Sweden, Norway) have an unkempt and downright androgynous appearance.

Western Europeans usually don't pay much attention to their looks.

Mr.Majestic
11-14-2014, 08:51 AM
Many people in Scandinavia (Sweden, Norway) have an unkempt and downright androgynous appearance.

Western Europeans usually don't pay much attention to their looks.

I do agree with the androgynous appearance, it seems as if that is the way to go here. It goes well with the Hallstatt phenotype ;)

DīSanglard
11-14-2014, 03:13 PM
I have doubts.

I am a photographer and I know what I'm talking

TicTac
11-14-2014, 03:14 PM
Both

Shkembe Chorba
11-15-2014, 12:33 PM
I am a photographer

Sooooo...? Having a Canon for 1500 euro makes you dress well :eyes ?

Cristiano viejo
11-15-2014, 12:42 PM
The Eastern leather jacket is legendary and immortal. There is not fashion sense in Eastern E.

DīSanglard
11-15-2014, 04:52 PM
Sooooo...? Having a Canon for 1500 euro makes you dress well :eyes ?

I work with people of all over europe and because of this I know that westerns are well dress

Oneeye
11-15-2014, 05:10 PM
The Eastern leather jacket is legendary and immortal. There is not fashion sense in Eastern E.

And track suit.

Queen B
11-15-2014, 05:38 PM
I work with people of all over europe and because of this I know that westerns are well dress
And I worked in the airport for several years too,I was seeing every-day people, and I can tell you the opossite
And as I said, neither Eastern nor Western dress better. Southern European do.:cool:

Insuperable
11-15-2014, 05:40 PM
I miss Jerney and Maniot/Turkophagos.

DīSanglard
11-15-2014, 06:36 PM
And I worked in the airport for several years too,I was seeing every-day people, and I can tell you the opossite
And as I said, neither Eastern nor Western dress better. Southern European do.:cool:

Airport is fashion, now? WOW. And I also know many countries. I guarantee that westerns dress better.

But I agree .Southern europeans dress better.

Queen B
11-16-2014, 07:25 AM
Airport is fashion, now? WOW. And I also know many countries. I guarantee that westerns dress better.

You can see everyday people there. Not just models, not just people ready to be photographed.
I think a shopping street and an airport is more representative of over all fashionsense.


But I agree .Southern europeans dress better.
With that , we agree :thumb001:

And yeah, I don't like either western or Eastern. Eastern tend to overdress, trying too much to look sexy and most of times look 2nd class.Girls don't really know the difference of feminime and tacky.
On the other hand, in west, its either very androgynous and plain (seriously, you can see so many women wearing this boy-line jeans, not hugging their ass and stuff), or very very low-slutty (British girls night out).
And yes, of course there are good examples in both sides, I'm talking about average though.

Shkembe Chorba
11-16-2014, 08:20 AM
And yeah, I don't like either western or Eastern. Eastern tend to overdress, trying too much to look sexy and most of times look 2nd class.Girls don't really know the difference of feminime and tacky.
On the other hand, in west, its either very androgynous and plain (seriously, you can see so many women wearing this boy-line jeans, not hugging their ass and stuff), or very very low-slutty (British girls night out).
And yes, of course there are good examples in both sides, I'm talking about average though.

Last time in Thessaloniki half of the girls in the club were wearing training suits :eyes

DīSanglard
11-17-2014, 03:11 PM
You can see everyday people there. Not just models, not just people ready to be photographed.
I think a shopping street and an airport is more representative of over all fashionsense.

With that , we agree :thumb001:

And yeah, I don't like either western or Eastern. Eastern tend to overdress, trying too much to look sexy and most of times look 2nd class.Girls don't really know the difference of feminime and tacky.
On the other hand, in west, its either very androgynous and plain (seriously, you can see so many women wearing this boy-line jeans, not hugging their ass and stuff), or very very low-slutty (British girls night out).
And yes, of course there are good examples in both sides, I'm talking about average though.

Do not forget that the models often use fashion brands at work. In everyday life, they dress normally. With models having their own style

Dani Cutie
12-14-2014, 07:33 PM
West Europeans sure.

Jana
12-22-2014, 04:29 PM
Italians !

aimar
12-22-2014, 04:30 PM
Portuguese, Spaniards and French.
Eastern Europeans, Germans and British dress too trashy/informal, white socks with sandals, jackets with shorts, t-shirts with ironic lines, etc....
Swedes and Italians are on the opposite end, fashion divas, they try too hard too look good.

Tommie
09-11-2016, 12:11 AM
Eastern Europeans these days dress much better than people might think.

JanPulja
09-11-2016, 12:20 AM
Western Europeans being bigger status whores try more and end up looking all the same. EE all look the same with less pretense and more flip flops.

Profileid
09-11-2016, 12:29 AM
I talked to an American who went to Russia once and she said the women there all dressed up,wearing high heels and stuff.

UkrainianGirl
09-11-2016, 12:54 AM
Eastern Europeans :)

UkrainianGirl
09-11-2016, 12:55 AM
I talked to an American who went to Russia once and she said the women there all dressed up,wearing high heels and stuff.

I'm like that daily. I don't even own sneakers lol

Profileid
09-11-2016, 12:57 AM
I'm like that daily. I don't even own sneakers lol

I couldn't do that. I wore high heels once and it killed my feet.

UkrainianGirl
09-11-2016, 01:16 AM
I couldn't do that. I wore high heels once and it killed my feet.

Lol. And if I don't wear heels then i feel like im standing slanted or walking like that haha. Well I wear flip flop too. They're cute so for summer i can wear them sometimes. The most I wore sneakers was for p.e. In school that's it. I just got used to heels. I wore them since I was ten so now it's a habit and my feet are used to them.

Rugevit
09-11-2016, 01:23 AM
How can one compare a diverse group of people?

Some western Europeans have a good sense of fashion. Milan is the capital of fashion. But so do east Europeans have a good sense of fashion despite Italians and French put on fashion trends. I've seen English and French wearing clothes that our people would not wear taking rubbish outside. I have seen dressed up English and French in fashion who are so much ahead than our ordinary people. Without counting a number of people who dress up in fashion it's difficult to tell. So, I voted both.

Antimage
09-11-2016, 07:53 AM
It is not necessarily a good thing in my eyes. Some of the men who dress fashionably looks faggish imo.