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Supreme American
06-05-2012, 02:38 AM
I can't believe there isn't one on here, so here it is...
I got these yesterday when I forwarded my 23andme raw data to Dr. McDonald. Interestingly, there is no national category for German, so since I am 3/4 German, I got instead a lot of her neighbor, France.
Here are my results:
Most likely fit is 28.2% (+- 21.6%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 71.8% (+- 21.6%) Europe (all Western Europe)
which is 100% total Europe
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Russian= 0.127 French= 0.873 or
Tuscan= 0.374 Irish= 0.626 or
Chuvash= 0.083 French= 0.917 or
Hungary= 0.362 French= 0.638 or
Finland= 0.118 French= 0.882 or
Italian= 0.422 Irish= 0.578 or
Belorus= 0.152 French= 0.848 or
Lithuani= 0.114 French= 0.886 or
French= 0.782 Irish= 0.218
Look at the spot on the map for the best guess: somewhere near the
Low Countries, or mostly French or British with a bit of something else European,
or perhaps part German, part French/British.
http://i45.tinypic.com/mlt7gl.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/6fo554.png
http://i46.tinypic.com/21kctgj.png
Sikeliot
06-05-2012, 02:41 AM
Male
Most likely fit is 98.1% (+- 0.6%) Europe (all Southern Europe)
and 1.9% (+- 0.6%) Africa (various subcontinents)
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Italian= 0.984 Mandenka= 0.016
Italian= 0.984 Yoruba= 0.016
Italian= 0.984 Bantu Ke= 0.016
Italian= 0.985 Bantu So= 0.015
Italian= 0.976 Ethiopia= 0.024
Italian= 0.970 Ethiopia= 0.030
Italian= 0.971 Ethiopia= 0.029
Italian= 0.981 Maasai= 0.019
Italian= 0.987 Biaka Py= 0.013
Italian= 0.990 Mbuti Py= 0.010
Second most likely fit is 88.2% (+- 7.8%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 11.8% (+- 7.8%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Italian= 0.951 Moroccan= 0.049
Italian= 0.964 Mozabite= 0.036
Spain= 0.825 Georgian= 0.175
Spain= 0.812 Turkish= 0.188
Spain= 0.719 Jewish= 0.281
Italian= 0.949 Egyptian= 0.051
Italian= 0.892 Jewish= 0.108
Italian= 0.930 Turkish= 0.070
Italian= 0.948 Iranian= 0.052
Spain= 0.826 Armenian= 0.174
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p586/theapplesfell/genome.png
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p586/theapplesfell/globalsimilarity.pnghttp://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p586/theapplesfell/worldmap.pnghttp://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p586/theapplesfell/worldmap2.png
Patches
06-05-2012, 04:32 AM
Doug McDonald results:
this tests
genome_Patches__Full_20120402222844.txt
Most likely fit is 51.9% (+- 8.9%) Europe (all Western Europe)
and 48.1% (+- 8.9%) Europe (all Northeast Europe)
which is 100% total Europe
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Spain= 0.431 Lithuani= 0.569 or
French= 0.608 Lithuani= 0.392
but that is almost surely saying that it is German, or nearby.
The non-Euro spots on the chromosomes are likely noise.
Source: Doug McDonald
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p535/PureEvil91/Patches__Full_20120402222844BGA3.png
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p535/PureEvil91/Patches__Full_20120402222844BGA2.png
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p535/PureEvil91/Patches__Full_20120402222844BGA1.png
even though the scatter plot is in England. What this means is that you
have lots of ancestry from east of England, indeed, averaging as far east as Germany.
Lots of people who are essentially all English have Geographical) map spots
as far east assay Holland, but you are farther east. There must be some
sort of more eastern there, but its impossible to tell exactly what.
As to non-Euro, there is 0.3% African on the chromosomes. This is strong
and real, but very very old. The American seen there is almost surely noise
as is the non-Euro on the X.
Pallantides
06-05-2012, 04:01 PM
My Doug McDonald results:
Most likely fit is 70.6% (+- 0.6%) Europe (all Western Europe)
and 29.4% (+- 0.6%) Europe (all Northeast Europe)
which is 100% total Europe
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Irish= 0.712 Finland= 0.288 or
Irish= 0.700 Lithuani= 0.300
which is clearly Scandinavia of some sort. Note that no point can plot on the world map north of a line from Dublin to Helsinki, and that the east-west position in this are is quite uncertain. The point on the scatter plot is clearly not German (which is usually inside the France-England-Hungary triangle) but rather more northern.
http://i.imgur.com/Us8Mx.png
http://i.imgur.com/8sW8k.png
http://i.imgur.com/pYKPu.png
Supreme American
06-05-2012, 04:07 PM
My Doug McDonald results:
http://i.imgur.com/Us8Mx.png
Interesting. The little non-Euro that shows up on my chromosomes probably comes from that 3/4 of my ancestors are of Southern German origin, so as I had suspected, there may have been small distant admixture from the old days of the Roman Empire.
Mortimer
06-05-2012, 05:07 PM
Most likely fit is 70.3% (+- 9.1%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 29.7% (+- 9.1%) S. Asia (various subcontinents)
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Romania= 0.795 S_India= 0.205 or
Spain= 0.612 Pathan= 0.388
and I tried lots of other different parameters for the program and all agree:
the green spot on the map, which is what matters, is somewhere between
Istanbul and Belgrade. But the usual populations that sit in that area ...
Turkish and Jewish, as well as pairs that average Greek or Serbian,
simply don’t work. India, Pathan, or Sindhi are absolutely required
to make it fit.
But the areas on the chromosomes are never “strong” ... all the
areas coded Red (Europe), Violet (Mideast) or Gray (India)
are very close to each other in your case ... a tiny change in
parameters can change any one into any of the other two. This
means you are likely from some single population that lives
somewhere bear the green spot.
The yellow and green spots on the chromosomes are noise.
Doug McDonald
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Ibericus
06-05-2012, 07:24 PM
Mine :
Most likely fit is 100% Spain (Western Europe)
which is 100% total Europe
The location error = 0.008287 with 1 group
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Spain= 1.000
Exactly as expected.
Doug McDonald
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/47/genome.png
http://imageshack.us/m/695/4030/genome4txtcleanedbga2ne.png
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/255/mcdonaldbga.png
Mortimer
06-12-2012, 06:09 PM
or perhaps part German, part French/British.
Not bad guess.
JQP4545
02-11-2014, 07:32 PM
Known ancestries are Irish, Welsh, German, Scottish, and French Canadian.
The automated computer results are as follows.
Please read the attached .rtf file for an explanation of how to
interpret all the data and plots. Both can be misleading without interpretation.
Most likely fit is 90.3% (+- 2.1%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 9.7% (+- 2.1%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
English= 0.900 Jewish= 0.100 or
English= 0.922 Armenian= 0.078 or
English= 0.911 Sephardic= 0.089 or
English= 0.915 Cypriot= 0.085 or
Germany= 0.877 Sephardic= 0.123 or
English= 0.932 Druze= 0.068 or
Germany= 0.863 Jewish= 0.137 or
English= 0.918 Georgian= 0.082 or
Germany= 0.885 Cypriot= 0.115 or
Germany= 0.906 Druze= 0.094
Second most likely fit is 100% Europe (various subcontinents)
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
English= 0.846 Tuscan= 0.154 or
Germany= 0.794 Tuscan= 0.206 or
English= 0.893 Sicily= 0.107 or
English= 0.755 Romania= 0.245 or
Germany= 0.853 Sicily= 0.147 or
English= 0.812 Italian= 0.188 or
Lithuania= 0.557 Tuscan= 0.443 or
Poland= 0.664 Tuscan= 0.336 or
Germany= 0.688 Romania= 0.312 or
French= 0.467 English= 0.533
A better custom fit says
English 0.8661 Basque 0.0363 Jewish 0.0976 or
Irish 0.3353 French 0.6303 Jewish 0.0344 or
Irish 0.3647 French 0.5900 Sephardic 0.0453 or
English 0.8321 Spain 0.0827 Jewish 0.0853
which also looks good on the scatter plots. It fits what you expect ...
including a tiny Jewish bit ... well.
Doug McDonald
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