WW2 and Serbia

[Wildland]

Germany didn't act as an imperialistic force atleast not in Europe, it's intention upon Russia I'm not that clear on, the most important thing is that they fought Bolshevik communism, and that was what the fight was about, either you where nationalist and pro German or you where a Bolshevik.
Neither side showed great sympathy on each-other and the fight was for a greater cause for both sides.
So in the big, it's not like people fought for Germany they fought against communism and also the British Empire if you wonder why non-white people sided with Germany.

But imperialistic nations like Serbia is today a miniature republic, Britain is a racial tragedy and USA is on it's way to collapse.
It's just to bad that they have dragged many nations with them on their tragic way.

[Svarog]

This is the part where I should be ashamed and start defending myself as a Serb right?

Well, i won't, imperialistic Serbia as stupid as it sounds gave you the flag you have in your profile as it should have been Bulgarian, so you're the last person that have reason to complain, and yet again, i find it cute that people find Serbia as an imperialistic country as we, especially after WWI when our population was halved in half were not able to conquer even my grandfather's vineyard not to talk about half of the Europe as you guys present, not that it does not flatters tho, when everyone talk about as an evil imperialist force, even a fairytale as it is, could make a good RPG or smth.

oh, and please, stories about Germany bombing Holland or England because they fought communism? c'mon..

[SwordoftheVistula]

especially after WWI when our population was halved in half were not able to conquer even my grandfather's vineyard

Unable to conquer it alone, but as a result of being against the losing side in WWI the Serbian monarchy was given wide swaths of land from the former Austria-Hungary and other Central Powers.

[Svarog]

Unable to conquer it alone, but as a result of being against the losing side in WWI the Serbian monarchy was given wide swaths of land from the former Austria-Hungary and other Central Powers.

Yes, we beat Austrian-Hungarian monarchy on the battlefield, and took their territories, nothing wrong with that, they are the one that attacked first anyway. Greatly outnumbered and better equipped lost to Serbian peasants, to bad we did not took all of their territories, that is what happens when you lose a war.

It's like betting, you expect to win some money but if you lose don't be sore when you lose your stack. :cool:

[Wildland]

Serbs have given so much to the world but I don't know about our flag :D. The thing that I include Serbia as imperialistic is that they fought for the Big Red with it's partisan support and the creation of Yugoslavia just as the allied pact fighting for a common left wing ideology, then if liberalism or communism was practised it's still left.
Communism suited Serbia very well for it's plan for Serb domination in the Balkans where the rest of the republics even before the creation and during actively tried to fight their way out of it.
It's just shame that Serbs today still see themselves as dominator and uber their neighbours giving them some freeway that they have the rights of territories that 700 years ago belonged to Serbia.
You see even if Serbia today is shrinked the people still hold on to it, just the same as Americans and Britons still see themselves like dominators even though both nations are on the brink of collapse.

[Svarog]

ah, this is getting old, sore anti-Serbs raising their ego on a forum, i have no idea where do you guys started with this but it total off-topic. And you are funny telling me what I and my countrymen think while you don't even live in your country, get real

to end this crap, Serbia was an imperialistic country only once and it was 700 years ago in the times of Tzar Dushan and we did damn well, all of this talk of modern imperialistic Serbia is just crap, we don't even have an army

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo348/Slaven14/Dusanova_Srbija200.jpg

now stop seeing evil Serbs everywhere around and pay attention on the actual topic

[Loki]

Fun fun fun, our first Balkan scrap? :clap: Maybe we should split the topic.

:fcinema:

[Svarog]

it should be purged and some people should lighten themselves up a bit

[Wildland]

Fun fun fun, our first Balkan scrap? :clap: Maybe we should split the topic.

:fcinema:

It's fun, for some time, just too see the reaction, but some people can go on forever with this.
:grumpy:

[Svarog]

it's not fun at all, because you ruined my thread which have nothing to do with crap you and the other guy started, especially after his first post which was great. but no, ALWAYS on ALL forums someone have to mention Serbia just when they see my flag and how 'evil' we are even if it have nothing to do with a thread, constantly asking for reasons to start with it, man, for such a tiny country we sure do get a lot of attention, anyway, if you find that funny than I don't know what else to say to you.

[Lulletje Rozewater]

now stop seeing evil Serbs everywhere around and pay attention on the actual topic
More to the point WW2 has slaughtered the best young men and women in every country.There the decline of the West began and the rap music started:eek::eek:

[Loki]

Thread split from this one (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=55211).

[Wildland]

Sorry go on with your thread.
We could atleast celebrate those men that thought for our better feature, instead of finding ways of ridiculing them.
I'm sure SS had their flaws but why just concentrate on the bad and negative things?

[Svarog]

Rate this thread -> terrible.

[Guapo]

But imperialistic nations like Serbia is today a miniature republic, Britain is a racial tragedy and USA is on it's way to collapse.
It's just to bad that they have dragged many nations with them on their tragic way.
And Alexanders Macedonia as well :D No really, all imeprialistic nations fail in the end and history shows that.

[Atlas]

The Serbs, leaded by Tito gave serious headache to the Germans and the Wehrmacht.

[Tabiti]

S.S. Lazio, Macedonia (nowadays FYROM) was mentioned to be part of Bulgaria when we joined the Axis...So, there is no point of defending Nazi Germany if you think of yourself as Macedonian, not Bulgarian...;)

[Wildland]

S.S. Lazio, Macedonia (nowadays FYROM) was mentioned to be part of Bulgaria when we joined the Axis...So, there is no point of defending Nazi Germany if you think of yourself as Macedonian, not Bulgarian...;)

National-socialism first priority and the greater cause, not like Svarog he would have put a bullet on any man stepping on his land ;).
Rather that Bulgarian imperialist annexed Macedonia than Yugoslavian communists :D, at the end we would still gotten our independence :thumb001:

[Svarog]

National-socialism first priority and the greater cause, not like Svarog he would have put a bullet on any man stepping on his land

I'll bite

So, for the greater cause, I should let someone else in my country and pretty much be a slave because they have a romantic leader with a gentle heart and good intentions? Excuse me, but I do pretty well on my own, and what greater good exactly Third Reich brought to Serbia? Or any other country they invaded?

Serbia was a monarchy, and Tito was a Croatian communist, not a Serb, Serbs did the worse out of all the countries in Yugoslavia, starting with the loss of Kosovo, which was lost thanks to the regime back in the 70's and not now.

And oh, yes indeed, Serbia to Serbs, have a problem with that, could not care less.


at the end we would still gotten our independence

What independence? I don't even know who you are as a nation when you can't even pick your own name, and don't start with the descendants of the Alexander the Great stories, as I am rather sure he was not a Bulgarian. Macedonia as a country was not mentioned since 334bc, thank Tito for what you have today.

AND oh:


But imperialistic nations like Serbia is today a miniature republic

Miniature of a republic or not, only Belgrade still have more citizens than your whole country