Kebab-pizza

[Hurrem sultana]

In Sweden this is the most popular form of pizza,but i never saw it in Germany for example?Is there kebab-pizza in your countries?

[Peyrol]

In Sweden this is the most popular form of pizza,but i never saw it in Germany for example?Is there kebab-pizza in your countries?

Unfortunately yes, mostly done by turks or egyptians.


It's a shame that a healty and good tasting food like traditional neapolitan pizza is now mixed with this disgusting hypercaloric/hypercholesterolemic girdle of goat meat and additives.


http://www.incampania.com/assets/img/Prodotti/big/Pizzanapoletana.jpg

http://www.orsococa.it/ricette_di_cucina/immagini/IMG_9326.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WJWSWd88kL0/TJ8WjjuRWoI/AAAAAAAAAMc/Wvw_p5xH60k/s1600/pizza-marinara.jpg

[iNird]

Sounds disgusting. I'm a self-appointed pizza expert and pizza is only good in certain parts of the world (certainly not in Sweden.) No surprise these dull Swedes (who dance like they have a stick up their arse) like Kebab pizza.

:coffee:

[Hurrem sultana]

here in sweden it is the most famous pizza,,i hardly ever eat any other pizza.and come on,since when is pizza heathy

[derLowe]

In Sweden this is the most popular form of pizza,but i never saw it in Germany for example?Is there kebab-pizza in your countries?

I will try any thing once.

[Peyrol]

Disgusting

http://www.recetasdiarias.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/pizza-kebab.jpg

http://www.pizzaplanet.it/reginamargherita/images/32544505_866736d9db.jpg

[Peyrol]

here in sweden it is the most famous pizza,,i hardly ever eat any other pizza.and come on,since when is pizza heathy

Real neapolitan pizza, made with traditional components (olive oil, grain, tomatoes, basil and mozzarella) it is.

Unfortunately, outside Italy you don't find the traditional (and real) pizza, but many other disgusting imitations.

[Hurrem sultana]

sorry but it looks good,especially with the kebab dressing..my favorite

[askra]

yes, i ate it here. Kebab-pizza is not bad.

[derLowe]

Unfortunately yes, mostly done by turks or egyptians.


It's a shame that a healty and good tasting food like traditional neapolitan pizza is now mixed with this disgusting hypercaloric/hypercholesterolemic girdle of goat meat and additives.


http://www.incampania.com/assets/img/Prodotti/big/Pizzanapoletana.jpg

http://www.orsococa.it/ricette_di_cucina/immagini/IMG_9326.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WJWSWd88kL0/TJ8WjjuRWoI/AAAAAAAAAMc/Wvw_p5xH60k/s1600/pizza-marinara.jpg

Looks delicious, reminds me of the one I had in Rome.

[Hurrem sultana]

Real neapolitan pizza, made with traditional components (olive oil, grain, tomatoes, basil and mozzarella) it is.

Unfortunately, outside Italy you don't find the traditional (and real) pizza, but many other disgusting imitations.

I guess thats why everyone who visitd Italy says the pizza is not as they expected it to be

[Pallantides]

"Swedish" pizza is so gross:speechless-smiley-0

[Arthur Scharrenhans]

I love both kebab and pizza, but I do find the idea of mixing them a bit disgusting...

[Aces High]

QUOTE=bosnian;943900]I guess thats why everyone who visitd Italy says the pizza is not as they expected it to be[/QUOTE]

Thats because they are used to eating imitation shit from other countries.

Italian pizza with a thin crust and fresh ingredients is the best.

[Peyrol]

I guess thats why everyone who visitd Italy says the pizza is not as they expected it to be

Pizza outside Italy is disgusting. In every euro country i visited...France, Uk, Sweden, Finland, Germany, etc.

[Peyrol]

Thats because they are used to eating imitation shit from other countries.

Italian pizza with a thin crust and fresh ingredients is the best.

Well said, rhodesianitaloengish mate :thumb001:

[Hurrem sultana]

Pizza outside Italy is disgusting. In every euro country i visited...France, Uk, Sweden, Finland, Germany, etc.

I guess people eat what they like,i am sure italian pizza is more heathy but it is not as popular in rest of the world.American pizza is a story for it self :D

[Peyrol]

I guess people eat what they like,i am sure italian pizza is more heathy but it is not as popular in rest of the world.American pizza is a story for it self :D

American Pizza is disgusting; when i lived 6 months in NYc, in 2006, i ate pizza many times, and was always disgusting...the only one good restaurant was one in Franklin Square, but it was a "cherrypicking restaurant".

[Aces High]

I guess people eat what they like,i am sure italian pizza is more heathy but it is not as popular in rest of the world.American pizza is a story for it self :D

Italian pizza fits the climate here.
You can go out for a pizza and have a beer and an ice cream and get up and walk around in the heat afterwards....even in the evening.
The fresh ingredients give it somewhat of a lighter feel.

The out of Italy pizza is thick and has all sorts of shit heaped on it...even pineapple wtf...:eek:
You get up feeling like you have eaten a log..........which is ok in northern Europe and the cold.

The two are not even worth comparing.....same as pasta dishes outside of Italy.The cuisine doesnt really travel and i think this goes for any country.

[Foxy]

I ate only once pizza with chicken meat and sauces over it in Australia and I needed 3 days to digest it and I was going to vomit. Nothing to do with the real Italian pizza. About pizza with kebab, there is not here where I live thank to God and I will never try it. Mixing foods is like mixing traditions and it is an other way to destroy our self-identity, our culture and embrace globalization. Hell, no!

[Osprey]

Dirty Muslims perverting classic Italian recipies. bosnian is one of them.

[Hurrem sultana]

Dirty Muslims perverting classic Italian recipies. bosnian is one of them.

food has religion? and kebab does not exist in Bosnia,it is alien to me as it is to you

[finþaų]

Degenerate and disgusting dish. Nothing like the actual Italian pizza.

[Peyrol]

Kebab is turkish (Doner), i think.

[Foxy]

I guess people eat what they like,i am sure italian pizza is more heathy but it is not as popular in rest of the world.American pizza is a story for it self :D

I don't care if it is not popular in the rest of the world, on the contrary, I would be GLAD if the rest of the world would ignore our traditions and would not contaminate it and/or the rest of the world would understand that they have to come to Italy if they want to know this country and its traditions and cuisines.
Americans and Australians transform also a cereals soup is something extremely caloric, this is why they are the 1st and the 2nd most obese countries.

And I agree with Perduellio, pizza abroad is a s***. We Italians know some locals abroad where you can eat good Italian, but they are usually as rare as a white fly. In Australia I have eaten for 3 months nightmare and bread and came back to Italy with 3 kilos more. A friend of mine stayed one year and took 12 kilos!! Wtf do they eat for Christ's sake? And we should be so mad to copy them???

You are creazy!!

[Foxy]

food has religion? and kebab does not exist in Bosnia,it is alien to me as it is to you

Yes, muslims don't eat pork and don't drink alchool. Real Italian pizza needs brewer's yeast to rise so it should be forbidden to muzzies. Also, many Italian pizzas are dressed with salami, row ham, sausages or würstel.

[Lithium]

This thing looks disgusting, I would never ear it. I find everything with the word "kebab" really gross.

[Pecheneg]

racism even in foods is sick.
don't eat/buy it, that's all.

[Hurrem sultana]

Yes, muslims don't eat pork and don't drink alchool. Real Italian pizza needs brewer's yeast to rise so it should be forbidden to muzzies. Also, many Italian pizzas are dressed with salami, row ham, sausages or würstel.

there is non-pork salami,,my mom makes good pizza,and i think it is close to orgiinal :thumb001:

[Peyrol]

racism even in foods is sick.
don't eat/buy it, that's all.

No problem about this.

[Foxy]

there is non-pork salami,,my mom makes good pizza,and i think it is close to orgiinal :thumb001:

You should use hot pork salami. Btw eat whatever you want. Americans have faked 3/4 of southern Italian culture, just go on. I stand for the original.
My favourite is tomato sauce, mozzarella, anchovies and capers, called "Roman pizza". Almost unfoundable abroad where if you ask capers they look at you like if you asked them a slice of ET.

[Mraz]

Gastronomic chauvinism is ridiculous.

[Peyrol]

These are real pizzas.

Impossible to eat outside here.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Traditional_pizza_from_Napoli.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WJWSWd88kL0/TJ8ZD8K4qiI/AAAAAAAAAMo/c9JAdugnYlY/s1600/una-pizza-napoletana-filetti.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-h_0hfGJxZ_I/Td6YtzXcgAI/AAAAAAAACAQ/k8UdBfBFf3g/s1600/pizzeria_trianon_ciro_intro.jpg

http://whatweatetodayuk.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/mozarella-and-olive-pizza.jpg

[Mraz]

These are real pizzas.

Impossible to eat outside here.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Traditional_pizza_from_Napoli.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WJWSWd88kL0/TJ8ZD8K4qiI/AAAAAAAAAMo/c9JAdugnYlY/s1600/una-pizza-napoletana-filetti.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-h_0hfGJxZ_I/Td6YtzXcgAI/AAAAAAAACAQ/k8UdBfBFf3g/s1600/pizzeria_trianon_ciro_intro.jpg

http://whatweatetodayuk.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/mozarella-and-olive-pizza.jpg


Well, go to an Italian restaurant runned by Italian immigrants abroad and you'll get the same :rolleyes:

[derLowe]

Well, go to an Italian restaurant runned by Italian immigrants abroad and you'll get the same :rolleyes:

It is never the same here no matter who owns the restaurant. I think it is because the employ the locals as labor.

[Leliana]

In Sweden this is the most popular form of pizza,but i never saw it in Germany for example?Is there kebab-pizza in your countries?
No, we don't have such sick dirt like 'Kebab Pizza' in Germany or Austria and it should stay that way. :stop Your Muslim- and Turk food propaganda is nauseating! Bosnian, do us a favor:

http://dc340.4shared.com/img/J_S5hzeq/579.gif?async

There are Italian people in Germany and Austria who own pizzerias and the taste is great, their products resemble the taste I had in Italian pizzerias in Italy. :cool: Only our self-made 'Lasagne Bolognese' is better than any Italian Lasagne. :P

[Foxy]

No, we don't have such sick dirt like 'Kebab Pizza' in Germany or Austria and it should stay that way. :stop Your Muslim- and Turk food propaganda is nauseating! Bosnian, do us a favor:

http://dc340.4shared.com/img/J_S5hzeq/579.gif?async

There are Italian people in Germany and Austria who own pizzerias and the taste is great, their products resemble the taste I had in Italian pizzerias in Italy. :cool: Only our self-made 'Lasagne Bolognese' is better than any Italian Lasagne. :P

I agree with you and this doesn't worth only for Italian food. I ate a wonderful Schweinshaxe in Bayern and I found nothing remotely similar in Italy, although there are restaurants that have German dishes in their menus. But at the end, after 1-2-3 tries, I reached the conclusion that if I want a good Schweinshaxe I must drive to Bayern.

Ich habe auch einen Buch der Bayerische Küche gekauft aber ich muss noch probieren um etwas zu kochen. Aber ich warte dass Corvus Albus für mich kocht. :P

[Incal]

Pizza outside Italy is disgusting. In every euro country i visited...France, Uk, Sweden, Finland, Germany, etc.

You know your comment just bring back memories from when I made a stop at the Fiumicino airport back in 2004. I remember I bought a pizza there and I thought I had been ripped off lol.

When I visited Italy later it took me some time to get used to the real pizza after so many years of American copies. Now I can say it's my favorite.

Never tried that kebab pizza before even when I lived a whole year in Germany, the mix seemed kind of weird but since I also like junk food it'd probably be OK.

Even though pizza from other countries is never the same, there are some nice variations. For example, Argentine and Uruguayan pizzas are good.

[Peyrol]

Well, go to an Italian restaurant runned by Italian immigrants abroad and you'll get the same :rolleyes:

Probabily....in Belgium, maybe there are some restaurants of first generation immigrants.

There was an heavy southerner immigration in Belgio in the '50-'60.

[ficuscarica]

Sorry Leliana, but there is Kebab Pizza in Germany. And I have seen quite a lot of "restaurant" who offer it. I don´t find it bad as a cheap stomach filler, but I eat it very rarely and only in a restaurant lead by Christian Turks/Syrians (not sure where they are from).

[Sultan Suleiman]

Unfortunately yes, mostly done by turks or egyptians.


It's a shame that a healty and good tasting food like traditional neapolitan pizza is now mixed with this disgusting hypercaloric/hypercholesterolemic girdle of goat meat and additives.


http://www.incampania.com/assets/img/Prodotti/big/Pizzanapoletana.jpg

http://www.orsococa.it/ricette_di_cucina/immagini/IMG_9326.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WJWSWd88kL0/TJ8WjjuRWoI/AAAAAAAAAMc/Wvw_p5xH60k/s1600/pizza-marinara.jpg

That looks too bland for any ones taste bugs :(

[Peyrol]

Sorry Leliana, but there is Kebab Pizza in Germany. And I have seen quite a lot of "restaurant" who offer it. I don´t find it bad as a cheap stomach filler, but I eat it very rarely and only in a restaurant lead by Christian Turks/Syrians (not sure where they are from).

I have a friend who lives in Freiburg im Breisgau and told me that there is full of turkish kebab.

[Peyrol]

That looks too bland for any ones taste bugs :(

Believe it or not, these are the real pizzas.


I'v e a Pizzeria near my house (hold by a neapolitan-croatian family) which have 99 diverse kinds of pizzas :love:

[Aces High]

taste bugs :(

Taste bugs................:rotfl:

You fucking moron.....its taste buds....................buds.

[Sultan Suleiman]

Disgusting

http://www.recetasdiarias.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/pizza-kebab.jpg


This one looks awesome :thumb001:

This is the type of pizza I usually make :D

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b238/mirzapa/pizza.jpg

Eat your heart out Italian dude xD

[Sultan Suleiman]

Taste bugs................:rotfl:

You fucking moron.....its taste buds....................buds.

Well your silly anglo language sounds all the same :D

[Peyrol]

Kebab meats have a particulary tastes which, IMHO, aren't adapt for the pizza's kneading.

It's like pasta with Nutella...

[Il Principe]

Surely one of the most repulsive foods that the human mind has ever conceived. American-type greasy junk food, covered in oily kebab made of slaughterhouse waste. In a way, that pizza is a gastronomic symbol for our sad times. The worst of the West and the East, all combined into one foul grease-dripping package.

If you are a lucky man, you might even find jet-black hairs from the kebab pizza's equally greasy makers in your delicious dish.


Pizza outside Italy is disgusting. In every euro country i visited...France, Uk, Sweden, Finland, Germany, etc.
I concur. When I visited Italy, it was a pleasant surprise that the local pizza was so very different from the American-type fast food I'd been used to. Thin crust, mozzarella, olives, real tomato sauce. Now that I've eaten the authentic Italian thing, it's near impossible (both for my taste buds and my physical health) to stomach the global mass-produced variant they have over here.

On my next trip to Italy, one of the first things on my "to do" list will be a meal at a pizzeria.

[Peyrol]

Surely one of the most repulsive foods that the human mind has ever conceived. American-type greasy junk food, covered in kebab made of slaughterhouse waste. In a way, that pizza is a gastronomic symbol for our sad times. The worst of the West and the East, all combined into one foul grease-dripping package.

If you are a lucky man, you might even find black hairs from the kebab pizza's makers in your delicious dish.


I concur. When I visited Italy, it was a pleasant surprise that the local pizza was so very different from the American-type fast food I'd been used to. Thin crust, mozzarella, olives, real tomato sauce. Now that I've eaten the authentic Italian thing, it's near impossible (both for my taste buds and my physical health) to stomach the global mass-produced variant they have over here.

On my next trip to Italy, one of the first things on my "to do" list will be a meal at a pizzeria.

That's the point, exactly :thumb001:

The same work for all the "italian" dishes, BTW.

[Aces High]

If you are a lucky man, you might even find black hairs from the kebab pizza's makers in your delicious dish

Having said that...i once walked into a pizzeria near the Trevi fountain only to find a stray cat behind the counter glass eating at a roast chicken.

Another time i was at a funeral to the nroth of Rome (Campagnano Romano) and at the wake i had a slice of pizza only to find the 80 yr old owners hearing aid on the topping........

:eek:

[Hurrem sultana]

Kebab meats have a particulary tastes which, IMHO, aren't adapt for the pizza's kneading.

It's like pasta with Nutella...

no not really..it tastes great,but not healthy..i eat it maybe once in 2-3 months

[Peyrol]

Having said that...i once walked into a pizzeria near the Trevi fountain only to find a stray cat behind the counter glass eating at a roast chicken.

Another time i was at a funeral to the nroth of Rome (Campagnano Romano) and at the wake i had a slice of pizza only to find the 80 yr old owners hearing aid on the topping........

:eek:

I've bad experiences about roman restaurants....15€ a chinotto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinotto_%28soft_drink%29) bottle in Vatican City, last spring :eek:

The famous "catholic charity" :lol:

[Aces High]

I've bad experiences about roman restaurants....15€ a chinotto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinotto_%28soft_drink%29) bottle in Vatican City, last spring :eek:

The famous "catholic charity" :lol:

Firenze....€ 5:00 for half a litre of water...................................:eek:

[Peyrol]

Firenze....€ 5:00 for half a litre of water...................................:eek:

And what about Venezia?
They're merchant, exactly like their ancestors...they get net gain on everything :lol:

Luckly, here in Torino life isn't so expensive.

[Il Principe]

no not really..it tastes great,but not healthy..
You and I clearly have different criteria to what is "great" and what is not. The waste from slaughterhouses, including unwanted entrails and cow udders, especially when made into grease-dripping Asiatic junk food, does not qualify as "great". Even less so when piled upon a fast-food pizza. In fact, I can hardly think of a less appealing food.

Is there anyone in this country who seriously thinks of kebab as anything else than junk food to be eaten on weekend nights? It's close to inedible when one is sober.

[Aces High]

And what about Venezia?

€50'00 mezz'ora in una gondola..............stiamo scherzando.:eek:

[Mraz]

Probabily....in Belgium, maybe there are some restaurants of first generation immigrants.

There was an heavy southerner immigration in Belgio in the '50-'60.

Well, in my mind, a pizza looks like the picture you've put. Pizzerias here use to bake it in a firewood oven, so I believe Italians still keep the traditions.
And I don't believe they'd dare to modify the reciepe lol.

[Methmatician]

http://www.recetasdiarias.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/pizza-kebab.jpg

This one actually looks tasty :)

[Sultan Suleiman]

This one actually looks tasty :)

I neither understand their PMSing about good food :P

[Hayalet]

Is there kebab-pizza in your countries?
No, this is the first time I heard about it.

[Hurrem sultana]

You and I clearly have different criteria to what is "great" and what is not. The waste from slaughterhouses, including unwanted entrails and cow udders, especially when made into grease-dripping Asiatic junk food, does not qualify as "great". Even less so when piled upon a fast-food pizza. In fact, I can hardly think of a less appealing food.

Is there anyone in this country who seriously thinks of kebab as anything else than junk food to be eaten on weekend nights? It's close to inedible when one is sober.

well obviously people like it since both mc donalds and kebab restaurants seem to do rally great here

[Ushtari]

kebab pizza with strips på is najs and kebabsås ofc

[Zack_Fair]

Dirty Muslims perverting classic Italian recipies. bosnian is one of them.

Worse than this? :eek:
http://www.google.co.in/gwt/x/is?u=http://sparklette.net/archives/490/american.jpg&alturl=http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q%3Dtbn:ANd9GcRrg0TwopzcUzeqnHnDqnJoCCDmV49 Ie84HrqS-c_bDLM3h2EStxMZwcv4&w=166

[Peyrol]

Worse than this? :eek:
http://www.google.co.in/gwt/x/is?u=http://sparklette.net/archives/490/american.jpg&alturl=http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q%3Dtbn:ANd9GcRrg0TwopzcUzeqnHnDqnJoCCDmV49 Ie84HrqS-c_bDLM3h2EStxMZwcv4&w=166

...americans...."How to ruine foods"...

[Sultan Suleiman]

Dirty Muslims perverting classic Italian recipies. bosnian is one of them.

Dirty virgin pervert drooling over a Muslim girl...

[Duke]

One of the worst pizzas I had was actually in Italia, Verona, tho I was a traditional restaurant with medieval stuff :D

[Peyrol]

One of the worst pizzas I had was actually in Italia, Verona, tho I was a traditional restaurant with medieval stuff :D

Fatal error!

Never, never and never eat pizzas in restaurants...only in pizzerie!

[Duke]

Fatal error!

Never, never and never eat pizzas in restaurants...only in pizzerie!

yeah, i ment that, it was a "medieval" pizzeria, so i ordered some pizza, i think origin was Naples, and i ordered it random, and it was stuffed with mixed cabbage and scrambled eggs, and on top there were pig feet. :D

[The Lawspeaker]

I have seen them once or twice. With all due respect: I would even rather go to McDonalds that eat that stuff.

[Zack_Fair]

...americans...."How to ruine foods"...

More like ''How to give your stomach endurance''. I always thought good of Pizza, till I actually bought some from an American owned resteraunt here... It looked good... I wonder how Americans eat that... Dry and greasy bread with random things on top...

[Peyrol]

More like ''How to give your stomach endurance''. I always thought good of Pizza, till I actually bought some from an American owned resteraunt here... It looked good... I wonder how Americans eat that... Dry and greasy bread with random things on top...

Go to some italian restaurant, at least...not american...in NYC i seen some abominations like these

http://cdn.trendhunterstatic.com/thumbs/american-pizza.jpeg

http://www.passion-4-pizza.com/images/flag_pizza.jpg

http://www.odditycentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/American-pizza5.jpg

[Onur]

Go to some italian restaurant, at least...not american...in NYC i seen some abominations like these

http://cdn.trendhunterstatic.com/thumbs/american-pizza.jpeg
Is this real?

Looks like a picture from garbage can of a restaurant.

[MandM]

The best pizza i have eaten was in Italy Milano, it was just olive oil, tomatoes, ham and mozzarella, so simple but divine =)

[The Lawspeaker]

I remember reading somewhere that back in the Middle Ages it was common amongst the wealthier classes to use a kind of plates made from stale bread call "teloor" or " teljoor" - and it was used to cut up meat with a (in those days communal) knife. This custom disappeared in the 16th century and I was wondering whether it could be related to the pizza ?

[Peyrol]

I remember reading somewhere that back in the Middle Ages it was common amongst the wealthier classes to use a kind of plates made from stale bread call "teloor" or " teljoor" - and it was used to cut off meat. This custom disappeared in the 16th century and I was wondering whether it could be related to the pizza ?



The italian word for the piaster used for cook pizza is Teglia...sound very similar, could be a relation.

[Peyrol]

Is this real?

Looks like a picture from garbage can of a restaurant.

Americans are worldwide know for ruin other culture's typical foods...:(

[The Lawspeaker]

Later on the teloor became a wooden plank or one made of iron like this one:

http://www.genealogie-stamboom-schrama-gravenmade-bollenstreek.nl/teloor.jpg

It is the direct ancestor of the plate we use today.

Old dictionaries (http://www.etymologiebank.nl/trefwoord/teljoor) still show the word:

P.A.F. van Veen en N. van der Sijs (1997), Van Dale Etymologisch woordenboek

teljoor {ta(e)ljoor, teljoor [schotel, vooral dienend voor het snijden van vlees] 1441} < frans tailloir [hakbord], van tailler (vgl. taille).

J. de Vries (1971), Nederlands Etymologisch Woordenboek

telloor znw. v. (zuidnl.) ‘bord’ < fra. tailloir ‘hakbord’ afl. van tailler < lat. taliāre ‘splijten, snijden’. — Evenals in het nhd. heet het met accentverspringing teller ten O. van een lijn van Maastricht naar de Lauwerszee (vgl. J. Daan, Album Blancquaert 1958, 239).

J. Vercoullie (1925), Beknopt etymologisch woordenboek der Nederlandsche taal

teljoor v., Mnl. telioor, taeljoor, gelijk Hgd. teller, uit Fr. [B]tailloir = 1 hakbord, 2. snee brood die als bord diende, van tailler: z. talie.

The word hasn't survived into the modern day language but it seems to be in common every day use in Papiamento (which is a language in the Netherlands Antilles): tayó.

[Peyrol]

Later on the teloor became a wooden plank or one made of iron like this one:

http://www.genealogie-stamboom-schrama-gravenmade-bollenstreek.nl/teloor.jpg

It is the direct ancestor of the plate we use today.

Old dictionaries (http://www.etymologiebank.nl/trefwoord/teljoor) still show the word:

P.A.F. van Veen en N. van der Sijs (1997), Van Dale Etymologisch woordenboek

teljoor {ta(e)ljoor, teljoor [schotel, vooral dienend voor het snijden van vlees] 1441} < frans tailloir [hakbord], van tailler (vgl. taille).

J. de Vries (1971), Nederlands Etymologisch Woordenboek

telloor znw. v. (zuidnl.) ‘bord’ < fra. tailloir ‘hakbord’ afl. van tailler < lat. taliāre ‘splijten, snijden’. — Evenals in het nhd. heet het met accentverspringing teller ten O. van een lijn van Maastricht naar de Lauwerszee (vgl. J. Daan, Album Blancquaert 1958, 239).

J. Vercoullie (1925), Beknopt etymologisch woordenboek der Nederlandsche taal

teljoor v., Mnl. telioor, taeljoor, gelijk Hgd. teller, uit Fr. [B]tailloir = 1 hakbord, 2. snee brood die als bord diende, van tailler: z. talie.

The word hasn't survived into the modern day language but it seems to be in common every day use in Papiamento (which is a language in the Netherlands Antilles): tayó.

Exactly...here the "Teglia" is this

http://www.termafrigo.it/shop/images/detailed/0/1238.jpg

http://www.cucinaincasa.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/4/3/43_3_10.jpg

I don't now if there is a correlation....certainly there were many contact between the Netherlands and Southern Italy in the Middle Age and in the Reinassance.

[The Lawspeaker]

Exactly...here the "Teglia" is this

http://www.termafrigo.it/shop/images/detailed/0/1238.jpg

http://www.cucinaincasa.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/4/3/43_3_10.jpg

I don't now if there is a correlation....certainly there were many contact between the Netherlands and Southern Italy in the Middle Age and in the Reinassance.
If I remember correctly mainly ports in the Southern Netherlands like Bruges (now Belgium and the word was probably used as such in the South as the dictionary shows) had a lot of contact with Italy. Mainly Genoa and Venice. During the 17th century there was also a lot of contact with Italy and it seems that the word has spread on to the north too (it could be because they followed the same idea but it could also be that they adopted the word: in Danish and Norwegian the word for a plate is tallerken. In Swedish tallrik.


A Dutch etymological dictionary claims that the word has come from French:


P.A.F. van Veen en N. van der Sijs (1997), Van Dale Etymologisch woordenboek

teljoor {ta(e)ljoor, teljoor [schotel, vooral dienend voor het snijden van vlees] 1441} < frans tailloir [hakbord], van tailler (vgl. taille).

Tailler. Meaning a plate for hacking. But despite of the linguistic origins: it could well be that the teloor was linked to the pizza and that the Italians simply began to use a plate afterwards while we got rid of the bread and only used the plate.

Another one goes for further and links it to Latin:


telloor znw. v. (zuidnl.) ‘bord’ < fra. tailloir ‘hakbord’ afl. van [B]tailler < lat. taliāre ‘splijten, snijden’

taliāre. To cut or to cleave.

[StonyArabia]

Never heard of a Kebab Pizza.

[sturmwalkure]

The best pizza I ever had was in Italy. The American 'pizza' doesn't come close. In any case kebab pizza sounds disgusting.

[Sforza]

Point of interest, (the original) pizza is a ancient Greek recipe which found its way to south Italy via the immigration of Greeks during the Byzantine times. It's medieval (and ancient) name is Pita which pretty much means Pie in Greek...

I find it a bit funny because even though it's a dish of Greek origin we -Greeks- forgot how to make it and instead we have this greasy stuff that most of the rest of Europe has. It feels so wrong to have to go to Italy to eat what was pretty much what "your" ancestors knew how to make for thousands of years.

Anyway kudos to Italians for uphelding such a fine culinary tradition :thumb001:...

[Peyrol]

If I remember correctly mainly ports in the Southern Netherlands like Bruges (now Belgium and the word was probably used as such in the South as the dictionary shows) had a lot of contact with Italy. Mainly Genoa and Venice. During the 17th century there was also a lot of contact with Italy and it seems that the word has spread on to the north too (it could be because they followed the same idea but it could also be that they adopted the word: in Danish and Norwegian the word for a plate is tallerken. In Swedish tallrik.


A Dutch etymological dictionary claims that the word has come from French:



Tailler. Meaning a plate for hacking. But despite of the linguistic origins: it could well be that the teloor was linked to the pizza and that the Italians simply began to use a plate afterwards while we got rid of the bread and only used the plate.

Another one goes for further and links it to Latin:



taliāre. To cut or to cleave.

"Tagliare" is the current it. word for "cut", so the ethimology can work well.

[Peyrol]

Point of interest, (the original) pizza is a ancient Greek recipe which found its way to south Italy via the immigration of Greeks during the Byzantine times. It's medieval (and ancient) name is Pita which pretty much means Pie in Greek...

I find it a bit funny because even though it's a dish of Greek origin we -Greeks- forgot how to make it and instead we have this greasy stuff that most of the rest of Europe has. It feels so wrong to have to go to Italy to eat what was pretty much what "your" ancestors knew how to make for thousands of years.

Anyway kudos to Italians for uphelding such a fine culinary tradition :thumb001:...

Napoli was a former greek colony, anyway.
Is sufficient see the name of the city :D

[Meerkat.86]

I love kebab and Turkish cuisine, but kebab-pizza sounds disgusting.