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cammarrone
06-12-2012, 10:30 PM
He' s white? Don't you see Mongolian influences ?


http://images.planetf1.com/10/02/800x600/Mika-Hakkinen_2421485.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motorsportblog/mikahakkinen.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/207/550258005_a48120848d_z.jpg?zz=1

Dilberth
06-12-2012, 10:32 PM
East Baltid+Nordid

safinator
06-12-2012, 10:33 PM
East Baltid + Nordid

leisitox
06-12-2012, 10:40 PM
East-baltid+nordid influence
East-baltids have this pseudo-mongolid in them though

GeistFaust
06-12-2012, 10:44 PM
East-Baltid with a strong Nordid influence.

Peyrol
06-12-2012, 10:46 PM
There is nothing of mongolid.

Onur
06-12-2012, 10:51 PM
There is nothing of mongolid.
You just don't wanna see it.

Cristiano viejo
06-13-2012, 01:01 AM
Total mongolid.
He is not white.

aherne
06-13-2012, 04:35 AM
Uralic

Rouxinol
06-13-2012, 06:46 AM
Pred. Lappid, can't see any Nordid.

Accountant
06-13-2012, 07:04 AM
Pred. Lappid, can't see any Nordid.

He is definitely east baltid.

Rereg
06-13-2012, 12:53 PM
He' s white? Don't you see Mongolian influences ?

Are you troll or just idiot?

Pallantides
06-13-2012, 12:54 PM
Total mongolid.
He is not white.

Lol...

Midori
06-13-2012, 12:56 PM
He' s white? Don't you see Mongolian influences ?


Many Scandinavians/Finns look like depigmented Mongols. It's supposedly part of their adaptation to the cold weather up there.

Vasconcelos
06-13-2012, 01:14 PM
Uralic

I wouldn't have guessed you'd say that.

Anthropologique
06-13-2012, 01:25 PM
Baltid-Nordid with Lappid.

Moonbird
06-13-2012, 01:29 PM
Pred East Baltid with Nordid and Faelid influences.

cammarrone
06-13-2012, 01:48 PM
Are you troll or just idiot?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejtc13Atnk4

Cristiano viejo
06-13-2012, 02:29 PM
Hakkinen seems a blonde chinese.

Peyrol
06-13-2012, 02:49 PM
There are definitely very few finns (finns as whole group, not necessarily finnish of Finland) with something mongoloic, but definitely not Hakkinen.

Petra
06-13-2012, 04:48 PM
I think he a Eastbaltid.

Dacul
06-13-2012, 11:16 PM
Many Scandinavians/Finns look like depigmented Mongols. It's supposedly part of their adaptation to the cold weather up there.

What is the adaptation part,the fact they started to look like mongolians?
Well did not knew that,from now on I will use 2 small pieces of adhesive band to put my eyes looking mongolian,so slanted when is very cold outside.

Accountant
06-14-2012, 05:48 AM
What is the adaptation part,the fact they started to look like mongolians?
Well did not knew that,from now on I will use 2 small pieces of adhesive band to put my eyes looking mongolian,so slanted when is very cold outside.

Slanty eyes protect you from snow blindness ;)

Dacul
06-14-2012, 09:39 AM
Slanty eyes protect you from snow blindness ;)

Well actually I had first time in my life problems with that when I went this year in January in mountains in Romania.
So is possible that this is why finns got eyes a little more slanted as an adaptation to very powerful light .

Onur
06-14-2012, 09:47 AM
So is possible that this is why finns got eyes a little more slanted as an adaptation to very powerful light .
Yes OR they got intermarried with slanted eyed people.

Some people in Turkey has slanted eyes too, mostly the ones with Tatar ancestors but it`s not as strongly visible as Hakkinen`s. This guy`s eye shape is like isolated Siberian peoples.

Vasconcelos
06-14-2012, 12:10 PM
Here we go again...

cammarrone
06-14-2012, 12:23 PM
Enough with the bullshit ! Hakkinen is not white !

Onur
06-14-2012, 02:58 PM
Enough with the bullshit ! Hakkinen is not white !
He is white as anyone can be but he is just a mongol :)

Dacul
06-14-2012, 04:35 PM
Turks are sensible whiter than south italians on average.
Being white is not something linked with being european.
But I think Hakkinen is european having plenty of balto-slavic admixture,as the usual finn and north slav has.
There are some mountain sub-races from Europe with very dark skin,so they are not white,but they are europeans.
Take for example those people from Basque country.
Here Haimar Zubeldia,as an example,being very swarthy,but full european:
http://www.radioshacknissantrek.com/sites/default/files/styles/rider-picture/public/rider-picture/zubeldia_haimar_03_lr_.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haimar_Zubeldia

aimar
06-14-2012, 04:40 PM
Here Haimar Zubeldia,as an example,being very swarthy,but full european:
http://www.radioshacknissantrek.com/sites/default/files/styles/rider-picture/public/rider-picture/zubeldia_haimar_03_lr_.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haimar_Zubeldia

very swarthy?
lol

Cristiano viejo
06-14-2012, 05:40 PM
He is white as anyone can be but he is just a mongol :)

How can to be white a mongol?:confused:

Cristiano viejo
06-14-2012, 05:42 PM
Turks are sensible whiter than south italians on average.
Mamma mia...


Here Haimar Zubeldia,as an example,being very swarthy,but full european:
http://www.radioshacknissantrek.com/sites/default/files/styles/rider-picture/public/rider-picture/zubeldia_haimar_03_lr_.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haimar_Zubeldia

Do you put a cyclist as an example?:confused::confused::confused:

Panopticon
06-14-2012, 08:34 PM
Pred. DaveMustaineoid imo.

http://spc.fotolog.com/photo/28/31/34/thrasher_87/1268333674559_f.jpg

Davy Jones's Locker
06-15-2012, 02:33 PM
East Baltid.

Anthro forum legend.

Pallantides
06-15-2012, 08:38 PM
Enough with the bullshit ! Hakkinen is not white !

I bet he is whiter than you(literary speaking):rolleyes:


Many Southern Europeans seem very sensitive about questions of your own admixture and ancestries, so you should lay of other Europeans unless you want the circle of mud slinging to go on and on, you'll call Finns depigmented Siberians and they will call you African influenced swarthy semi-Arabs... blabla... and the story goes on...

Leshy
06-15-2012, 08:40 PM
Nordid+faelid+lappid

Übermensch
06-15-2012, 08:51 PM
borealized cromagnoid.

Cristiano viejo
06-16-2012, 12:35 AM
I bet he is whiter than you(literary speaking):rolleyes:

That would be a very risky bet given the obvious Mongoloids mixture of Hakkinen :thumb001:

Many Southern Europeans seem very sensitive about questions of your own admixture and ancestries, so you should lay of other Europeans unless you want the circle of mud slinging to go on and on, you'll call Finns depigmented Siberians and they will call you African influenced swarthy semi-Arabs... blabla... and the story goes on...

If we southeuropeans say mixed that you are in the North, among other things is because you do the same :thumb001:

Vasconcelos
06-16-2012, 12:41 AM
That would be a very risky bet given the obvious Mongoloids mixture of Hakkinen :thumb001:

Until you check his DNA you can't say such thing. Many people in Northern Europe have slightly slanted eyes and they are as European as you are.



That would be a very risky bet given the obvious Mongoloids mixture of Hakkinen :thumb001:


If we southeuropeans say mixed that you are in the North, among other things is because you do the same :thumb001:

Absolutely stupid line of thought.



And stop spamming :thumb001: it's annoying as fuck.

Cristiano viejo
06-16-2012, 01:07 AM
Until you check his DNA you can't say such thing. Many people in Northern Europe have slightly slanted eyes and they are as European as you are.

Vaya hombre... ahora resulta que necesitamos un analisis de ADN para saber si es o no es mezclado...æentonces qué demonios de sentido tiene esta web? :confused::confused::confused:



Absolutely stupid line of thought.


:zzz:zzz

Insuperable
06-16-2012, 01:07 AM
Until you check his DNA you can't say such thing. Many people in Northern Europe have slightly slanted eyes and they are as European as you are.

I agree. I bet he is still 90+ Euro autosomally. There is still much of what people do not know regarding genetics and morphology and models are based mainly on statistics and stochastics. It is possible that minor foreign genetic material can have a large influence on morphology for some reasons. Since this happens rarely it happens because of mechanism still not defined hence why statistics plays a good role for now in genetics.

Vasconcelos
06-16-2012, 09:36 AM
Vaya hombre... ahora resulta que necesitamos un analisis de ADN para saber si es o no es mezclado...æentonces qué demonios de sentido tiene esta web? :confused::confused::confused:

Ele pode ter +90% DNA autosomal de origem europeia e apenas 1 ou 2% Norte Asiįtico, tal como nós temos um pouco de Norte Africano com origem no Neolķtico, nós nćo sabemos. Ele nćo deixa de ser Europeu por isso. :shrug:


http://sim.in.com/8a42dee1f0291beb1b80785da6a39872_m.jpg

http://i1.r7.com/data/files/2C92/94A3/2437/FEDC/0124/3B46/5CEE/56EF/mika-hakkinen-mm-20091002.jpg

sturmwalkure
06-17-2012, 01:46 AM
East-Baltid /Nordid.

I wouldn't guess he'd be Mongoloid, he resembles the former Russian Minister of Defense, Sergey Ivanov somewhat.

Amarantine
06-19-2012, 10:43 AM
genuine Finn

Faelid-Lapp

Siginulfo
07-05-2012, 02:49 PM
East-Baltid+East-Nordid.

Sebastianus Rex
07-05-2012, 02:57 PM
Hakkinen has strong lappid influences, it is obvious some mongoloid admixture but if you want to call it "east something"...that's fine, go on living in denial...

http://images.teamtalk.com/09/01/800x600/Mika-Hakkinen_1732953.jpg

http://www.fmsuomi.com/incoming/mika-hakkinen.jpg

Black Sun Dimension
07-05-2012, 03:12 PM
White? Nah, he's uber mongoloid.

Insuperable
07-05-2012, 03:17 PM
He is not mongoloid. Even if his look is influenced by his minor syberian side he is still probably in a range of being 90% or more Euro which is higher than for some Europeans.

Sebastianus Rex
07-05-2012, 03:27 PM
He is not mongoloid. Even if his look is influenced by his minor syberian side he is still probably in a range of being 90% or more Euro which is higher than for some Europeans.

I disagree, he's nowhere near from being 90% euro. The nordic admixture (blond hair, light eyes, very pale skin) atenuate alot of non-euro influences in the phenotype.

Look at David Silva son for instance, looks normal altough his father is 1/4 japanese:

http://cache.20minutes.fr/photos/2012/07/02/david-silva-of-spain-celebrates-f623-diaporama.jpg

Insuperable
07-05-2012, 03:36 PM
I disagree, he's nowhere near from being 90% euro. The nordic admixture (blond hair, light eyes, very pale skin) atenuate alot of non-euro influences in the phenotype.

Look at David Silva son for instance, looks normal altough his father is 1/4 japanese:

http://cache.20minutes.fr/photos/2012/07/02/david-silva-of-spain-celebrates-f623-diaporama.jpg

In genetics STATISTICAL methods are used often.
For example based on genetic data one can determine what is a probability for someone to have blue, green, grey, brown eyes...
For example both parents have blue eyes and according to statistical methods the probability that they child will have brown eyes is small, but it can happen that child has brown eyes.
The same way is with a foreign admixture. It is possible that minor admixture influences someones morphology to some greater extent although genetically that probability is small but it can happen.
That football player looks less "foreign" in syberian admixture sense and has a lot more foreign admixture. See, statistics and one of the reasons why classifications suck

finžaų
07-05-2012, 03:36 PM
There are people with features like Häkkinen's that have zero percent autosomal Mongoloid admixture. Deal with it.

I know one of them myself.

Cristiano viejo
07-06-2012, 11:42 PM
There are people with features like Häkkinen's that have zero percent autosomal Mongoloid admixture. Deal with it.

I know one of them myself.

Can we then deny that southern Europeans of dark-skinned people have non-European ancestors? or that thesis only applies to people like Hkkinen?

finžaų
07-06-2012, 11:45 PM
Can we then deny that southern Europeans of dark-skinned people have non-European ancestors? or that thesis only applies to people like Hkkinen?

So you're acting up over a grudge that isn't even there? Just come clean with that from the start then.

People who look like Häkkinen could have significant Mongoloid admixture, just like a swarthy Mediterranid could have South West Asian or slight Negroid admixture. That doesn't make it apply to all individuals, though.

Übermensch
07-06-2012, 11:46 PM
Can we then deny that southern Europeans of dark-skinned people have non-European ancestors?

I don't think Finthau thinks that...
The slighty tanned (but yet light comparaed to non-european people) skin tone of a part of southern southern european is due to climate adaptation just like the narrow eyes and high cheeckbones of some northen europeans.

Śtrįm
07-06-2012, 11:58 PM
These features are a product of an evolutionary/environmental condition. Not necessarily (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution) the result of admixture.

Übermensch
07-07-2012, 12:01 AM
These features are a product of an evolutionary/environmental condition. Not necessarily (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution) the result of admixture.

Just like you can find blonde melanesians (that doesn't means they are realeted to finnish or swedes).

Śtrįm
07-07-2012, 12:11 AM
Just like you can find blonde melanesians (that doesn't means they are realeted to finnish or swedes).

Actually they are obviously well-tanned Swedes of cro-magnom extraction.

http://addisabram.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/solomonislandsblody21.gif

Saruman
07-07-2012, 12:13 AM
Robust East-Baltid (so with CM influences) with Nordid tendency.

lol Mika being dissed here. It takes a cold Finn to make moves like this.:p
T78FeKGSSFs

Typical Finnish speech?:D
rRIq3UhoB-M

aherne
07-07-2012, 05:32 AM
Looks Hungarian to us Romanians. Just a very pure Uralic.

Hess
07-07-2012, 05:41 AM
that's fine, go on living in denial

It's science, not denial.

As you can see, Asian admix in Scandinavians is far too negligible to impact their phenotype in any physical way.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n558/k151/ADMIXTURE_10.png

Instead, people like Hakkinen look the way they do because of a process called Borealization.

It would take me too long to explain how it works, but you can read more here (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11365)

Hess
07-07-2012, 05:51 AM
Typical Finnish speech?:D
rRIq3UhoB-M

a man of few words :thumb001:

One of the qualities I notice in many Scandos is how reserved they are in conversation, which I love.

finžaų
11-07-2012, 10:48 AM
Borealised Cromagnoid with a Nordoid influence. Most likely very highly European autosomally.

Mongoloid-influenced phenotypes don't look anything like Häkkinen's.

Toretto
11-07-2012, 11:01 AM
Total mongolid.
He is not white.

i agree

finžaų
11-07-2012, 11:07 AM
Read up on this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution - and subsequently look at Finnish autosomal analyses.

Total Mongorian indeed! :rolleyes:

Another textbook Mongoloid:

http://i.imgur.com/2K1kZ.jpg

Toretto
11-07-2012, 11:09 AM
Read up on this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution - and subsequently look at Finnish autosomal analyses.

Total Mongorian indeed! :rolleyes:

Another textbook Mongoloid:

http://i.imgur.com/2K1kZ.jpg

thank you... :D

but you know for my south european eyes he look like a 1/2 mongoloid

but I admit that I could be wrong

Deimos
11-07-2012, 11:09 AM
Pred. East-Baltid with Nordid(Faelid) influence.

It's pointless discussing whether he is white or not.

finžaų
11-07-2012, 11:17 AM
Pred. East-Baltid with Nordid(Faelid) influence.

It's pointless discussing whether he is white or not.

Indeed, but quite funny.

Gustavsson
11-07-2012, 11:27 AM
true nordic

Sarmatian
11-08-2012, 08:18 AM
Anyone claiming anything Mongoloid about the sibject must be totally blind or absolutely glueless. The pictures chosen for classification are selected with the purpose to show pseudo-Mongoloid features. This way vast number of European men can be classified as Mongoloids if you look at them when they smile.

For proper classification a plain emotionless face (poker face) should be presented. That is where we can see Mika having pure Europoid face.

finžaų
11-08-2012, 09:35 AM
Anyone claiming anything Mongoloid about the sibject must be totally blind or absolutely glueless. The pictures chosen for classification are selected with the purpose to show pseudo-Mongoloid features. This way vast number of European men can be classified as Mongoloids if you look at them when they smile.

For proper classification a plain emotionless face (poker face) should be presented. That is where we can see Mika having pure Europoid face.

Most of these "Mongolian" notions stem from obvious inferiority complexes. :D

Corvus
11-08-2012, 09:37 AM
Could be my brother :D

Incel King
11-08-2012, 09:46 AM
East-baltid+nordid influence
East-baltids have this pseudo-mongolid in them though

This is not pseudo-mongoloid, but real mongoloid influence. East Baltid is technically Baltid + Lappoid/Uralid.

finžaų
11-08-2012, 09:49 AM
This is not pseudo-mongoloid, but real mongoloid influence. East Baltid is technically Baltid + Lappoid/Uralid.

How can there be so many East-Baltids in groups that have around 0-2% Mongoloid admixture at most, then? I know an "East-Baltid" who scores a whopping zero percent North Asian.

"East-Baltid" is obviously not Mongoloid at all, but simply boreal. 19th century racial taxonomy is often nonsensical.

Zmey Gorynych
11-08-2012, 09:55 AM
This is not pseudo-mongoloid, but real mongoloid influence. East Baltid is technically Baltid + Lappoid/Uralid.
this mongoloid look might be due to adaptation, if you move to live inside the arctic circle chances are that in a few generations your descendants will develop the same traits simply because they are more suited for such harsh conditions

Cristiano viejo
11-08-2012, 02:53 PM
this mongoloid look might be due to adaptation, if you move to live inside the arctic circle chances are that in a few generations your ancestors will develop the same traits simply because they are more suited for such harsh conditions

When we speak of a nordic person with mongoloid features is that it is an adaptation to the climate... but when we speak of a southeuropean with skin very dark it is because has moorish origins... :clap2::clap2::clap2:
:picard1::picard1:

finžaų
11-08-2012, 02:58 PM
When we speak of a nordic person with mongoloid features is that it is an adaptation to the climate... but when we speak of a southeuropean with skin very dark it is because has moorish origins... :clap2::clap2::clap2:
:picard1::picard1:

They are not Mongoloid features, and I have explained why that is so in this very thread.

Who brought dark-skinned South Europeans up? I see this is a personal vendetta for you; you're trying to get revenge for perceived insults against your nation by making up nonsense about North and East Europeans.

Pallantides
11-08-2012, 02:58 PM
this mongoloid look might be due to adaptation, if you move to live inside the arctic circle chances are that in a few generations your ancestors will develop the same traits simply because they are more suited for such harsh conditions

Well Hakkinen and most Finns don't live inside the Arctic circle:D


Hakkinen is from Vantaa:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Vantaa.sijainti.suomi.2009.svg/344px-Vantaa.sijainti.suomi.2009.svg.png

Arctic Circle:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Arctic_circle.svg/350px-Arctic_circle.svg.png


I think even in subarctic and boreal climates such looks can originate.

MarceloBielsa
11-08-2012, 03:05 PM
When we speak of a nordic person with mongoloid features is that it is an adaptation to the climate... but when we speak of a southeuropean with skin very dark it is because has moorish origins... :clap2::clap2::clap2:
:picard1::picard1:

:D

Rouxinol
11-08-2012, 03:49 PM
this mongoloid look might be due to adaptation, if you move to live inside the arctic circle chances are that in a few generations your ancestors will develop the same traits simply because they are more suited for such harsh conditions

I get your point, yes, but certainly not in a "few generations". As an example, Afrikaners still look white European last time I checked. ;)

MarceloBielsa
11-08-2012, 03:50 PM
Could be my brother :D

Aryan :D

Dilberth
11-08-2012, 03:52 PM
Looks white as it gets.

finžaų
11-08-2012, 03:57 PM
I get your point, yes, but certainly not in a "few generations". As an example, Afrikaners still look white European last time I checked. ;)

Häkkinen looks North European. Simple as that.

Cristiano viejo
11-08-2012, 04:03 PM
They are not Mongoloid features, and I have explained why that is so in this very thread.
For me they have mongoloid features, to have chinese eyes IS to have mongoloid features, of all life.

Who brought dark-skinned South Europeans up? I see this is a personal vendetta for you; you're trying to get revenge for perceived insults against your nation by making up nonsense about North and East Europeans.

I see that you dont miss one :lightbul:
Of course that is a vendetta! If insult to my country, which less than a vendetta! Although more than a vendetta, it is simply to confirm a fact.

By the way, I see that you are moderator, have YOU done something against people who insulting other countries, in this case Spain? or is that is allowed to insult the spaniards in this forum?

Pallantides
11-08-2012, 04:07 PM
For me they have mongoloid features, to have chinese eyes IS to have mongoloid features, of all life.



Those eyes do not look Chinese...

finžaų
11-08-2012, 04:08 PM
For me they have mongoloid features, to have chinese eyes IS to have mongoloid features, of all life.


I see that you dont miss one :lightbul:
Of course that is a vendetta! If insult to my country, which less than a vendetta! Although more than a vendetta, it is simply to confirm a fact.

By the way, I see that you are a moderator, have YOU done something against people who insulting other countries, in this case Spain? or is that is allowed to insult the spaniards in this forum?

Round eyes are most common in the Middle East. Does that mean round eyes are a Middle Eastern feature? You are not confirming a fact (as I have already proven, but I guess you are not able to comprehend).

Does Mika Häkkinen or any other Finn/Scandinavian insult your people on Apricity regularly?

I don't care if anyone insults Spaniards or any other people, I am just telling you that you are scientifically wrong about the supposedly Mongoloid nature of these features, and I have told you why. If you still cannot fathom why that is so, so be it. :D

As you seem to be an *S** type, I will demonstrate my argument visually. Chinese eyes:

http://i.imgur.com/q55JN.jpg

Cristiano viejo
11-08-2012, 05:17 PM
Those eyes do not look Chinese...



As you seem to be an *S** type, I will demonstrate my argument visually. Chinese eyes:

http://i.imgur.com/q55JN.jpg

Following your awesome logic, this spanish is not moor

http://i2.esmas.com/2008/09/18/11343/pedro-almodovar300x350.jpg

although in this forum is classified as such.
This is a true moor

http://blogs.20minutos.es/quefuede/files/naybet2.jpg
http://www.meloncorp.com/arch/0189/marroqui.jpg
http://www.enciezadigital.com/public/180409KhalebMarMusicasG.jpg

You can masturbate mentally everything you want thinking that Hakkinen is an authentic european, that if I see him as owner of a chinese restaurant in Spain I will not surprise myself. And like me, many more people.

finžaų
11-08-2012, 05:21 PM
Following your awesome logic, this spanish is not moor

although in this forum is classified as such.
This is a true moor

You can masturbate mentally everything you want thinking that Hakkinen is an authentic european, that if I see him as owner of a chinese restaurant in Spain I will not surprise myself. And like me, many more people.

You certainly have complexes pertaining to your own self-worth.

As you dismiss science as "mental masturbation" in a naturalistic debate, you have proven yourself a vile provocateur, and a person unworthy of my time.

Cristiano viejo
11-08-2012, 06:58 PM
You certainly have complexes pertaining to your own self-worth.

As you dismiss science as "mental masturbation" in a naturalistic debate, you have proven yourself a vile provocateur, and a person unworthy of my time.

Science? oh yes, science when that interest to you... :rolleyes:

You was who opined about my posts, not me.
You are who makes me lose my time with your style science "slanted eyes of nordics are so by adapting to cold and the dark skin of southeuropeans is by its mixture with moors"... oh yes, I love your science :rolleyes:

Zmey Gorynych
11-09-2012, 09:25 AM
Well Hakkinen and most Finns don't live inside the Arctic circle:D I think even in subarctic and boreal climates such looks can originate.
Ofc, I used the arctic circle as an example of extreme weather conditions.


I get your point, yes, but certainly not in a "few generations". As an example, Afrikaners still look white European last time I checked. ;)
Maybe not in a few generations but changes eventually will occur and I meant to say descendants not ancestors :D but I guess everybody figured that out. South Africa is not that different from Europe, it has a temperate climate with familiar temperatures both in winter and summer and I can't imagine how climate can't change a person's skin color, it's too drastic.

tEhSaint
09-29-2013, 10:58 PM
East Baltid with minor Nordid influences.

Roy
09-29-2013, 11:02 PM
East Baltid.

Ianus
09-30-2013, 08:40 PM
East Baltid+Nordid

Smeagol
09-30-2013, 09:18 PM
Lappid basically.

Smeagol
09-30-2013, 09:20 PM
For me they have mongoloid features, to have chinese eyes IS to have mongoloid features,

No, it's based on climate. Bjork has ''Mongoloid'' eyes, but she is Caucasoid, she has a Caucasoid skull. Do you want to say the Khoisans are Mongoloids too?

Gaston
09-30-2013, 09:26 PM
I supported him when I was a child for some reason...


Looks very European, with the inherent Eurasian affinities.

Sharkeatpeople
09-30-2013, 09:40 PM
He is Nordid + Lappoid

Lappoid descendants of the indigenous people of northern Europe,Proto-Lappoid appeared in what is now Inner Mongolia of China and spread from there throughout the north of Eurasia.Their features can be traced also in the East-Baltid.

Therefore, we can see the influence of Mongoloid in Mika Hakkinen.

This is my opinion.

Cristiano viejo
09-30-2013, 09:54 PM
No, it's based on climate. Bjork has ''Mongoloid'' eyes, but she is Caucasoid, she has a Caucasoid skull. Do you want to say the Khoisans are Mongoloids too?

Of course... when is a Spaniard who has dark skin the reason is that he is Moor, but when we have a Scandinavian with Mongolian features the reason is the climate :laugh2:

btw there is a genetic study according to which the Vikings brought Amerindian women to Iceland, and that is the reason for the existence of people like Bjork
http://www.abc.es/20101116/ciencia/mujer-americana-llevada-vikingos-201011161232.html

Smeagol
09-30-2013, 09:57 PM
Of course... when is a Spaniard who has dark skin the reason is that he is Moor, but when we have a Scandinavian with Mongolian features the reason is the climate :laugh2:

He's a Finn, not a Scandinavian. He also looks European.


btw there is a genetic study according to which the Vikings brought Amerindian women to Iceland, and that is the reason for the existence of people like Bjork
http://www.abc.es/20101116/ciencia/mujer-americana-llevada-vikingos-201011161232.html

There were very few Amerindians brought over. Bjork is an archaic borealized Caucasoid.

Black Sun Dimension
10-02-2013, 12:18 AM
Depigmented specimen from the Mongolian plains.

Midori
06-11-2014, 08:33 PM
East Baltid+Nordid and slight CM or Lappid (cheekbones area)

armenianbodyhair
06-11-2014, 08:34 PM
Findochinese

Eventhorizon
12-30-2014, 08:22 AM
He kinda looks Sami to me , what do you guys think ?

http://s16.postimg.org/lnuwapu6d/mika_hakkinen_australia_1997_by_f1_history_d5w.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s16.postimg.org/hjtxi7y85/motor_mika.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/z9vm39bsx/full/)

http://s16.postimg.org/fph30hb7p/s1_1.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Th.wolff
12-30-2014, 09:00 AM
Looks Finn, East-Baltid with some Nordid.

Dani Cutie
12-30-2014, 09:08 AM
Eurasian

Tooting Carmen
12-30-2014, 09:10 AM
Eurasian

Of a highly depigmented variety.

Harkonnen
12-30-2014, 11:16 AM
Häkkinen is a interesting case. In 1995 he had a big crash in Adelaide

http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/0c6/incoming/article834967.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/Hakkinen.jpg

The crash caused him massive skull fracture, and among other things made him go deaf in his left ear, which was part of the many reasons why he always had such difficulties in those post-race interviews. But most importantly, what comes to taxonomy, he suffered a partial facial paralysis (Bell's palsy?). One cause of this paralysis is to exudiate the slant of his eyes, though there most certainly was a slant to his eyes even before the accident.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6d/99/30/6d99304768709afc093f170d49454158.jpg

Another effect is the melting of his face.

I would say that at base, there is a strong CM-like element in Häkkinen. You can compare him to Räikkönen, or Keke Rosberg, both of whoms base-element is something more gracile and much more rounded. Häkkinen is more square-faced, and has a rather heavyish jaw, with a close 90 degree gonial angle.

http://coolspotters.com/files/photos/934760/mika-hakkinen-profile.jpg
http://atlasf1.autosport.com/99/oct06/boss3.jpg

That is he had that element. If you look at more of his recent pictures, you can clearly see how his face is melting away, which is a known symptom among people suffering from facial paralysis. Because the facial muscles are not used, the bones themselves start to loose mass.

http://images.planetf1.com/10/02/800x600/Mika-Hakkinen_2421485.jpg


He kinda looks Sami to me , what do you guys think ?



As far as I know, he does not have Saami ancestry. There is another Finnish F1 driver, who most definitely has Saami ancestry; that is Heikki Kovalainen.

Eventhorizon
12-31-2014, 03:55 AM
Häkkinen is a interesting case. In 1995 he had a big crash in Adelaide

http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/0c6/incoming/article834967.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/Hakkinen.jpg

The crash caused him massive skull fracture, and among other things made him go deaf in his left ear, which was part of the many reasons why he always had such difficulties in those post-race interviews. But most importantly, what comes to taxonomy, he suffered a partial facial paralysis (Bell's palsy?). One cause of this paralysis is to exudiate the slant of his eyes, though there most certainly was a slant to his eyes even before the accident.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6d/99/30/6d99304768709afc093f170d49454158.jpg

Another effect is the melting of his face.

I would say that at base, there is a strong CM-like element in Häkkinen. You can compare him to Räikkönen, or Keke Rosberg, both of whoms base-element is something more gracile and much more rounded. Häkkinen is more square-faced, and has a rather heavyish jaw, with a close 90 degree gonial angle.

http://coolspotters.com/files/photos/934760/mika-hakkinen-profile.jpg
http://atlasf1.autosport.com/99/oct06/boss3.jpg

That is he had that element. If you look at more of his recent pictures, you can clearly see how his face is melting away, which is a known symptom among people suffering from facial paralysis. Because the facial muscles are not used, the bones themselves start to loose mass.

http://images.planetf1.com/10/02/800x600/Mika-Hakkinen_2421485.jpg



As far as I know, he does not have Saami ancestry. There is another Finnish F1 driver, who most definitely has Saami ancestry; that is Heikki Kovalainen.

This is really interesting , I really doubted that Mika is not fully European but the case you just explained illustrated his appearance in recent years
what is more interesting is that Heikki Kovalainen does not look Sami or Lappid at all , I wouldn't have guessed that he is Sami
in the second and the third pictures of Mika , he does indeed look like a typican nordic guy

Thanks

Gaston
12-31-2014, 06:01 PM
Mika Hakkinen is genetically more European than most people here, ironically.

Cristiano viejo
12-31-2014, 08:38 PM
Mika Hakkinen is genetically more European than most people here, ironically.

Hard to believe, taking account that he must be mostly N.

FeederOfRavens
01-01-2015, 08:28 PM
Hard to believe, taking account that he must be mostly N.

Before the crash he looks more European than most people here.

Harkonnen
01-01-2015, 08:43 PM
Well Häkkinen is a special guy, and if we are going to play the game:

1 Define borders of Europe
2 Line up Europeans
3 Pick up the odd men out

Then he is the odd man out, But the hell, fuck you all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43mZ2XZJnxc

But then again Dolph Lundgren would be the odd man out too. He is too uber to be typical :D Actually there are similarities between Dolpf and Mika, Dolph is like yli-immeis version of Mika.

Jana
01-01-2015, 09:02 PM
East Baltid+Nordid and slight CM or Lappid (cheekbones area)

+1

He looks super Finnish. Great driver.

Cristiano viejo
01-01-2015, 10:19 PM
He looks super Finnish.
Agree.

Tiberio
01-01-2015, 10:21 PM
East Baltid. Great driver.

Faklon
01-01-2015, 10:29 PM
Baltid or Uralid

Cristiano viejo
01-01-2015, 10:33 PM
Baltid or Uralid

Or Mongolid.

Tiberio
01-01-2015, 10:35 PM
Or Mongolid.

Technically both Uralid and East Baltid have some distant Mongoloid appearance.

Gaston
01-02-2015, 12:53 PM
Hard to believe, taking account that he must be mostly N.

While N is the brother of O, indeed, R is a close cousin of both N and O. Hard to believe R people like Western Europeans, some Near Easterners, and Cameroonians deep in Africa are cousins with East Asian O. But that is reality.

Nicholas-Mountblack
03-29-2015, 06:09 AM
Well the average finns have 7% of asian dna, so it's possible that he have some of mongolid features.

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https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/

Hungarian_master
03-29-2015, 06:50 AM
East Baltid+East Nordid

Sizzo
08-26-2017, 10:26 AM
By the way, have Saame (genetic isolate), Finnish people and other north-eastern european peoples a REAL mongoloid admixture? Or their physical appearance are only the logical consequence of a climate adaption?

Melki
08-26-2017, 11:00 AM
He' s white? Don't you see Mongolian influences ?


http://images.planetf1.com/10/02/800x600/Mika-Hakkinen_2421485.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/motorsportblog/mikahakkinen.jpg

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/207/550258005_a48120848d_z.jpg?zz=1

I do. :)




http://zupimages.net/up/17/01/bt6d.png (http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=17/01/bt6d.png)

Gangrel
08-26-2017, 11:01 AM
this guys gotta be at least 25% mong lol

Harkonnen
08-26-2017, 11:21 AM
By the way, have Saame (genetic isolate), Finnish people and other north-eastern european peoples a REAL mongoloid admixture? Or their physical appearance are only the logical consequence of a climate adaption?

Essentially Finns are archaic Paleolithic European remnants

The climate of northeastern Europe is likely to resemble in many ways Late Pleistocene periglacial conditions in Europe, but there have been relatively few studies exploring the association between climate and morphology in the mid-face of modern northeastern European populations. To fill this gap, we sampled 540 male skulls from 22 European and Near Eastern groups, including 314 skulls from 11 populations from northeastern Europe, to test for possible climate-morphology association at the continental scale. Our results found a moderate and highly significant association (R=0.48, p=0.0013, Mantel test) between sets of 23 mid-facial measurements and eight climatic variables. A partial least squares analysis revealed this association to be mostly driven by differences between groups from northeastern Europe and populations from the Mediterranean and the Caucasus. Matrices of between-group genetic distances based on Y-chromosome and mtDNA markers, as well as cranial non-metric and geographic distance matrices, were used to control for the possible influence of shared population history. Irrespective of which measure of neutral between-population distances is taken into account, the association between cranial variables and climate remains significant. The pattern of association between climate and morphology of the mid-face in western Eurasia was then compared to that in east and north Asia. Although differences between the two were found, there were also similarities that support existing functional interpretations of morphology for the bony parts of the upper airways. Last, in a preliminary analysis using a reduced set of measurements, mid-facial morphology of several Upper Paleolithic European Homo sapiens specimens was found to be more similar to groups from northern and northeastern Europe than to southern European populations. Thus, the population of northeastern Europe rather than east and north Asian groups should be used as a model when studying climate-mediated mid-facial morphology of Upper Paleolithic European H. sapiens.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047248417300921

http://s019.radikal.ru/i608/1705/6c/6940f142d6fd.png

Odin
08-27-2017, 01:19 PM
Nordid + East-Baltid.

Panzerknacker
08-27-2021, 08:37 AM
A perfect example of Savolaxid.

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