Which of these can pass as Anatolian?

[Han Cholo]

Posted here because I want to know true Turkish opinions and not people guided by stereotypes.

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http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9475/image331226.jpg

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/919/image201154.jpg

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3021/image221200.jpg

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8582/image191154.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8301/image121146.jpg

http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/7648/image171153.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9530/image111143.jpg

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/205/image021110.jpg

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/8215/image161217.jpg

[Azalea]

All of them could fool most Turks but these have a distinct look

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/919/image201154.jpg

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8582/image191154.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8301/image121146.jpg

http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/7648/image171153.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9726/image371230.jpg

[Onur]

Posted here because I want to know true Turkish opinions and not people guided by stereotypes.

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/9762/image361229.jpg
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3021/image221200.jpg
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2859/image321225.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9475/image331226.jpg

Only these four above. I think the rest are Amerindians and/or mulattoes because i see some christian symbols and cowboy hats.

The first two guy above might be American mulatto again but they can pass here.


But this one fits as best;

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9475/image331226.jpg

[Lathander]

3,4,5,6,7,11,13 would pass as turk.But 3,7 and 11 has the average turkish look.

[Han Cholo]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GVFPqBBzs5o/RqXa8dsWB9I/AAAAAAAAAwU/m9ASVhD_xi0/s400/dominicans.JPGI can assure none of them is a Mulatto. What made you say so?

[Onur]

Mate, some of them are Mexican or Cuban Americans mixed with white people. It`s so obvious from their cowboy hats and christian symbols.


Edit;


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GVFPqBBzs5o/RqXa8dsWB9I/AAAAAAAAAwU/m9ASVhD_xi0/s400/dominicans.JPG

I can assure none of them is a Mulatto. What made you say so?
lol, OK, i see. you are just trolling around then, have fun :)

[Han Cholo]

Mate, some of them are Mexican or Cuban Americans mixed with white people. It`s so obvious from their cowboy hats and christian symbols.

All of them are Mexican, it's obvious. But do you know what a Mulatto means?

[Su]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GVFPqBBzs5o/RqXa8dsWB9I/AAAAAAAAAwU/m9ASVhD_xi0/s400/dominicans.JPGI can assure none of them is a Mulatto. What made you say so?

If he's Turk then I am starting to have doubts about my own Turkishness :rolleyes:

[Han Cholo]

If he's Turk then I am starting to have doubts about my own Turkishness :rolleyes:

I did not say they were Turkish. It was an example of a mulatto. They are from Dominican Republic (and I have no idea why he's wearing a Turkey t-shirt but I found that funny.)

[Mortimer]

Let me summarize

-Hates "Niggers"
-Wants to pass as a "Turk"

= OCD(Off-Caucasoid Dillema)

[Mortimer]

And yes everyone of them passes as Turk.

[Pecheneg]

half of them can pass.

[Han Cholo]

In what regions they can pass? I imagine in the most Central Asian influenced ones?

[Pecheneg]

In what regions they can pass? I imagine in the most Central Asian influenced ones?
well, none of them have 100% Turkish appearance. so i can't say which regions they can pass, but some of these guys remind me Turks, this is precisely.

[Su]

Posted here because I want to know true Turkish opinions and not people guided by stereotypes.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7519/image311221.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9726/image371230.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7430/image381233.jpg



http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/9762/image361229.jpg

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2859/image321225.jpg

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9475/image331226.jpg



http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3021/image221200.jpg

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8582/image191154.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8301/image121146.jpg


http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9530/image111143.jpg

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/205/image021110.jpg

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/8215/image161217.jpg

^All of the above people could pass in Turkey but some still would look mixed with something that is foreign for us.

[Onur]

^All of the above people could pass in Turkey but some still would look mixed with something that is foreign for us.
I think you misunderstand the term. All of them could pass in London too because there are people from all around world in there but do they look English, hell no.

So, do these people look Turkish to you?

Even if they would speak perfect Turkish to me, i would still ask them where their families from because their facial features, eyes doesn't look Turkish at all. They are simply atypical except four of them i linked.

[Su]

I think you misunderstand the term. All of them could pass in London too because there are people from all around world in there but do they look English, hell no.

So, do these people look Turkish to you?

Even if they would speak perfect Turkish to me, i would still ask them where their families from because their facial features, eyes doesn't look Turkish at all. They are simply atypical except four of them i linked.

I perfectly understood what he was asking. Look at these Turkish football players:

Sinan Polat
http://www.tff.org/Resources/TFF/Auto/05b9b14f4fac44cba325324729d69887.jpg


Gokhan Gonul
http://www.tff.org/Resources/TFF/Auto/2a40980f666b43fe9c400bd2155bfab9.jpg

Ismail Koybasi
http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/empics/20091126/09/3161370593-26112009095101.jpg

Omer Toprak
http://www.itusozluk.com/image/omer-toprak_283887.jpg

Bekir Irtegun
http://i1.goal.com/files/images/stats/goal/player-images/10/14210_186x236.jpg

Hamit Altintop
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nRsJuo-0Wcw/TglBJJtRXEI/AAAAAAAABEw/xfOPj9qM5Kc/s1600/Hamit+Altintop+2011.jpg

Nuri Sahin
http://www.ajans32.com/images/news/3562.jpg

Mehmet Topal
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1411/mehmettopal2j.jpg
Selcuk Inan
http://www.galatasaray.org/images/sporcular/1/Selcuk%20-%20B.jpg

Mehmet Ekinci
http://www.haberino.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/32.-Mehmet-Ekici.jpg
Engin Baytar
https://fys.tff.org/TFFUploadFolder/KisiresimleriTemp/30160.jpg

Soner Aydogdu
https://fys.tff.org/TFFUploadFolder/KisiresimleriTemp/654587.jpg

Umut Bulut
https://fys.tff.org/TFFUploadFolder/KisiresimleriTemp/527720.jpg

^We got these sort of looking Turks in Turkey and the Mexicans I have selected in my previous post could certain pass as Turkish based on the examples of above Turks.

Doy ou really think every Turk looks like just me and you? :eek: We do have plenty of different types of look in Turkey :thumb001:

[Padre Organtino]

Let me summarize

-Hates "Niggers"
-Wants to pass as a "Turk"

= OCD(Off-Caucasoid Dillema)

Turks are not pure Caucasoids. Summary fail:p

[Onur]

SometimesYes, you just check for their overall look, skin color, hair color etc. You should look deeper for the facial features and eyes.

For example, look at Soner Aydogdu, Engin Baytar, Mehmet Ekinci, Nuri Sahin, Bekir Irtegun. Even if they would be Afro black, much more swarthier than the Mexicans here, i would still recognize them as Turkish.

[Mortimer]

Turks are not pure Caucasoids. Summary fail:p

http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/y/you_have_failed-14149.jpg

[Han Cholo]

Gokhan, Bekir, Nuri, Mehmet Topal, Selcuk Inan, Engin Baytar, Soner can pass. The others look too Middle Easterner and Ismail looks more like some Brazilians or Argentineans I know.

Soner would be the most convincent I'd say.

https://fys.tff.org/TFFUploadFolder/KisiresimleriTemp/654587.jpg

I have a few friends that look almost exactly like him.

[Su]

You just check for their overall look. Look deeper for the facial features and eyes.

For example, look at Soner Aydogdu, Engin Baytar, Mehmet Ekinci, Nuri Sahin, Bekir Irtegun. Even if they would be black, much more swarthier than the Mexicans here, i would still recognize them as Turkish.

That's your opinion.

I know you didnt like my opinion but you see we got freedom of speech.

And according to me they could pass as Turkish.

You should start learning to respect other users opinion rather than questioning it. It will be a challenge for you, but you still can learn it :thumb001:

[Onur]

You should start learning to respect other users opinion rather than questioning it. It will be a challenge for you, but you still can learn it :thumb001:
When did i say that i dont respect your opinion? I just disagreed with you, thats it.

according to your terms, then you cannot possibly differentiate a Kurd, southern Levantine or Arab from a Turk. Can you? because if you could, then you should have differentiated these Mexicans too.

[Han Cholo]

When did i say that i dont respect your opinion? I just disagreed with you, thats it.

Imho, according to your terms, then you cannot possibly differentiate a Kurd, southern Levantine or Arab from a Turk. Can you? because if you can, then you should have differentiated these Mexicans too.

And according to you, you can differentiate all Kurds, Arabs or Southern levantines from Turks?

I'm sure many Kurds can pass as Turkish.

[Padre Organtino]

Turks according to Onur.
http://www.countryragepage.com/images2006/swedes@pub06.jpg

Kurds according to him
http://www.africanevents.com/images/CitorChibuzoChikaAnd1--Nip07--8.5.jpg

[Onur]

And according to you, you can differentiate all Kurds, Arabs or Southern levantines from Turks?

I'm sure many Kurds can pass as Turkish.
Yes, i can distinguish most of the Kurds, Arabs and southern Levantines from Turks.

The ones i cannot distinguish would probably be mixed with Turks, like the Kurds who can pass as Turkish. For example, in the city of Antakya, there are people with half Syrian Arab, half Turkish parents but i could easily spot their distinct Arab look too just as i can spot most of the Kurds.

Maybe you cant see the difference but i can.

[Han Cholo]

Yes, i can distinguish most of the Kurds, Arabs and southern Levantines from Turks.

The ones i cannot distinguish would probably be mixed with Turks, like the Kurds who can pass as Turkish. For example, in the city of Antakya, there are people with half Syrian Arab, half Turkish parents but i could easily spot their distinct Arab look too just as i can spot most of the Kurds.

Maybe you cant see the difference but i can.

Are you not part Balkanian? Can people in Turkey spot your Balkan look?

[Su]

according to your terms, then you cannot possibly differentiate a Kurd, southern Levantine or Arab from a Turk. Can you? because if you could, then you should have differentiated these Mexicans too.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

If they look Iranid, Armenoid or Arabid, yeah I know the person has got very small chances to be a Turk. But in some exception cases some Turks do look kurdish.

For example he doesnt look Turkish to me, but he's Turkish indeed:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x4YasrSj1Og/Ts0-drd6InI/AAAAAAAAif8/Qk6EW_AVBK0/s1600/Abdullah%2BGul.jpg

So therefore I always say: Turkish people's look is changing from city to city. I think this is a fair description :wink

[Onur]

Are you not part Balkanian? Can people in Turkey spot your Balkan look?
Yes, most of them can.



For example he doesnt look Turkish to me, but he's Turkish indeed:[/IMG]
Imho, Abdullah Gul has Armenian look. I wouldn't be surprised if he has partly Armenian ancestry.

Ohh btw, I could easily spot our local Armenians of Istanbul too despite their perfect Turkish. but more difficult to spot our local Sephardi Jews.

[Su]

Yes, most of them can.



Imho, Abdullah Gul has Armenian look. I wouldn't be surprised if he has partly Armenian ancestry.

Ohh btw, I could easily spot our local Armenians of Istanbul too despite their perfect Turkish. but more difficult to spot our local Sephardi Jews.

Some Armenians I can some I can't. But Sephardi Jews can be easy to spot like Can Bonomo:
http://www.eurovisionvideo.net/img/element/1262.jpg
http://www.eurovisionary.com/files/images/Can_Bonomo.preview.jpg

[Onur]

Yes, It`s easier to spot Can Bonomo but not much for the Jews i know in Izmir.

Armenians are easier to spot for me.

[Su]

Yes, It`s easier to spot Can Bonomo but not much for the Jews i know in Izmir.

Armenians are easier to spot for me.

Remember you got also Turkified Armenians who are also Muslims and since they identify themselves as Turks, it's hard to tell who's who.

The Armenians with big eyes are very easy to spot or the ones with the nose...But some of them look Turkish.

Easy one, she looks Armenian:

http://img.kimdir.com/kimdir/a/y/78e9775328260c99b536aef14ccfc7aa23329c54.jpg

Difficult, he looks rather Turkish, but he's indeed Armenian and Christian:

http://im.haberturk.com/2011/02/09/599489_detay.jpg?-62169991016

[Su]

And now check these Kurdish politicians:

Emine Aydin, to me she looks Kurdish and she's Kurdish indeed:

http://www.kenthaber.com/Resimler/2009/06/02/893fcf62-7f1b-43bc-bd43-2a77e687903f.jpg

Hatip Dicle, he looks Turkish to me, but he's Kurdish:
http://www.haberler.com/haber-resimleri/448/hatip-dicle-dosyasi-aihm-e-gidiyor-2851448_1952_o.jpg

Nursel Aydogan, she looks Turkish to me, but she's Kurdish:

http://www.haberler.com/haber-resimleri/833/bdp-milletvekili-nursel-aydogan-aciklamasi-3238833_9127_o.jpg


Altan Tan, he looks Turkish to me, but he's Kurdish:

http://www.babelio.com/users/AVT_Altan-Tan_4569.jpeg

Serafettin Elci, he looks Kurdish and he's Kurdish:
http://www.sondakikahaberleri.info.tr/images/haberresim/56403-serafettin-elci-en-uygun-cozum-federasyondur.jpg

Leyla Zana , she looks Kurdish to me and she's Kurdish:
http://img6.mynet.com/ha7/l/leyla-zana.jpg

Ahmet, he looks Kurdish and he's Kurdish:
http://www.odatv.com/images/2009_12/2009_12_22/ahmet-turkun-soyasi-neden-turk-2212091200_l.jpg

Selahattin Demirtas, he looks Kurdish to me and he's Kurdish indeed but I have seen Eastern Turks with that look as well :....
http://www.mansettekiler.com/images/news/5280.jpg

Pervin Buldan, to me she looks Kurdish and she's indeed Kurdish but I have seen Eastern Turks with her look :....
http://www.itusozluk.com/image/pervin-buldan_95718.jpg

Aysel Tugluk, she looks Kurdish and she's indeed Kurdish:
http://www.sondakika.com/haber-foto/846/aysel-tugluk-a-14-yil-hapis-soku-3700846_4405_b.jpg

Ayla Akat Ata, she looks Kurdish and she's indeed Kurdish:
http://im.haberturk.com/2012/05/03/739300_detay.jpg?1336051473

@Onur check the pictures of Kurdish politicians (above) from Turkey and read my comments and tell me if you agree on them?

[Onur]

@Onur check the pictures of Kurdish politicians (above) from Turkey and read my comments and tell me if you agree on them?
I completely agree all your comments about them. And the reason of Turkish looking Kurds and Kurdish looking Turks is obvious, because they are mixed. You probably know that some alevi turkmen tribes assimilated among kurds. For example, i am quite sure that Hatip Dicle and Altan Tan has Turkish roots. No one can distinguish them among Turks. It`s like they took nothing from their kurdish ancestors or they are just a children of kurdified turkmen families, especially Hatip Dicle.

So, i can see that you are quite successful on separating kurds from turks and you can spot the mixed ones too. So why not you couldn't spot the Mexican features in the OP?

[Han Cholo]

These ones can pass:
http://www.kenthaber.com/Resimler/2009/06/02/893fcf62-7f1b-43bc-bd43-2a77e687903f.jpg

http://www.babelio.com/users/AVT_Altan-Tan_4569.jpeg

This one even looks like an uncle:
http://www.odatv.com/images/2009_12/2009_12_22/ahmet-turkun-soyasi-neden-turk-2212091200_l.jpg

http://www.mansettekiler.com/images/news/5280.jpg

[Su]

I completely agree all your comments about them. And the reason of Turkish looking Kurds and Kurdish looking Turks is obvious, because they are mixed. You probably know that some alevi turkmen tribes assimilated among kurds. For example, i am quite sure that Hatip Dicle and Altan Tan has Turkish roots. No one can distinguish them among Turks. It`s like they took nothing from their kurdish ancestors or they are just a children of kurdified turkmen families, especially Hatip Dicle.

So, i can see that you are quite successful on separating kurds from turks and you can spot the mixed ones too. So why not you couldn't spot the Mexican features in the OP?

Gorulen koy kilavuz istemez (Kurtler) :coffee:

Joking.

If we do a challenge like:

Turks with Asiatic features v.s. mixed race Latinos (not the very mixed ones like Mestizo) but minor mixed ones like Harnizo or Castizo.

^I see almost no difference.

For example this Mexican girl has been classified in another forum as Castiza and she looks normal Turkish to me and I see nothing mixed in her :

http://www.missuniverse2010.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Ximena-Navarette-Miss-Mexico-2010.jpg