Surnames

[MarkyMark]

Does anyone know what cities or areas these two last names are from, and their meaning:
Debaldo and Vettraino

[Prince Carlo]

Debaldo is not an Italian surname. Vettraino is mostly found in Latium and Campania.

[MarkyMark]

So its safe to assume Debaldo is Spanish?

[Damião de Góis]

So its safe to assume Debaldo is Spanish?

I never heard of it before from what i know of spanish surnames. Maybe it could be an american mispell of De Baldo or Di Baldo ?

[MarkyMark]

Probably, my family immigrated through Ellis Island like all the other Italians coming to the U.S. If Di Baldo an Italian surname is there a meaning or location for it? I'm pretty sure my family knows whether they are Italian or not because there weren't any adoptions in our family.

[Comte Arnau]

Baldo and derived surnames seem to be particularly relevant in Northern Italy. It seems very likely that Debaldo is just a compound form.

[DannySa]

Probably, my family immigrated through Ellis Island like all the other Italians coming to the U.S. If Di Baldo an Italian surname is there a meaning or location for it? I'm pretty sure my family knows whether they are Italian or not because there weren't any adoptions in our family.

What are you looking for?
Debaldo? Di Baldo? De Baldo?
I can tell you you wont find Debaldo in Italy cause it just isn't any italian, Di Baldo is from Latium so central Italy and the surname Debaldo could be the englishised form of De Baldo that is italian but pretty rare.

You can look for italian surnames here www.gens.info/

[Vasconcelos]

Di Baldo is from Latium so central Italy and the surname Debaldo could be the englishised form of De Baldo that is italian but pretty rare.

That's probably it, Americans seem to enjoy destroying those sort of names, the same happens with Portuguese "De Sousa" and similar ones.

[le penalty]

Linot is a italian surname ??

[Comte Arnau]

Linot is a italian surname ??

An Upper Norman one, more likely.

[le penalty]

An Upper Norman one, more likely.

Norman ?? This surname is really not common in france. Perhaps corse
An italian can help ?

[Comte Arnau]

Norman ?? This surname is really not common in france. Perhaps corse
An italian can help ?

http://www.geopatronyme.com/cgi-bin/carte/nomcarte.cgi?nom=Linot&submit=Valider&client=cdip

But if you want to make the surname Italian, I couldn't care less. :coffee:

[askra]

Does anyone know what cities or areas these two last names are from, and their meaning:
Debaldo and Vettraino

Vettraino is a surname spread in Lazio (province of Frosinone) next to the border with Campania and Molise.

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi/V/VETTRAINO.gif

Debaldo is currently a nonexistent surname in Italy, but is is present in USA.

[le penalty]

http://www.geopatronyme.com/cgi-bin/carte/nomcarte.cgi?nom=Linot&submit=Valider&client=cdip

But if you want to make the surname Italian, I couldn't care less. :coffee:

i just want a simple answer of an ITALIAN (yes or no)on an italian topic. I dont care to make this surname italian.
Ok so if i follow your logic, Moutinho is surname of Aisne:

http://www.geopatronyme.com/nomcarte/MOUTINHO

[Comte Arnau]

i just want a simple answer of an ITALIAN (yes or no)on an italian topic. I dont care to make this surname italian.
Ok so if i follow your logic, Moutinho is surname of Aisne:

http://www.geopatronyme.com/nomcarte/MOUTINHO

With the big differences that:

1. -ot is a perfect ending for an Oil-speaking territory, while -inho is not.
2. The area is much more spread.
3. There were 90 Linot births between 1891 and 1915, in times previous to heavy immigration. But there were 0 Moutinho births.


Anyway, you left your message clear. You don't deserve any good answers, after all.

[DannySa]

i just want a simple answer of an ITALIAN (yes or no)on an italian topic. I dont care to make this surname italian.
Ok so if i follow your logic, Moutinho is surname of Aisne:

http://www.geopatronyme.com/nomcarte/MOUTINHO

I found a few Linot in Piedmont, so it could possibly be of french origin, but sure its isn't italian.

[Prince Carlo]

Frosinone is in Latium, but most people there are ethnic Campanians.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VAkhMb_3K1s/TN1ywKcoFTI/AAAAAAAAGlQ/1hsIDh-vkZc/s1600/DialettiItaliani.jpg

BTW there aren't many difference between Latins and Campanians. Most Latins are of Campanian ancestry and vice-versa.

[Peyrol]

An Upper Norman one, more likely.

No, is very piemonteis, specifically Arpitàn. I know one girl with this surname. :D

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi-prov/L/LINOT.gif

[le penalty]

And cuissinat ? italian surname ?

[Peyrol]

No, never heard...i know some piedmonteis/valadois (Occitane) surnames which ends in -at or -inat (Martinat, etc)...but never heard about Cuissinat.

[Comte Arnau]

No, is very piemonteis, specifically Arpitàn. I know one girl with this surname. :D

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi-prov/L/LINOT.gif

Ok. Apparently the few Linots in Italy are in the Piedmont.

But as you say, related to Arpitan, which is the closest group to the Oil languages. That's not really "Italian", in which one might expect a form like Linotto, if anything.

Does she speak Valdostan? I once met a girl from there who did, a long time ago, and she was the hottest Alpinid I've ever seen. :D

[Peyrol]

Ok. Apparently the few Linots in Italy are in the Piedmont.

But as you say, related to Arpitan, which is the closest group to the Oil languages. That's not really "Italian", in which one might expect a form like Linotto, if anything.

Does she speak Valdostan? I once met a girl from there who did, a long time ago, and she was the hottest Alpinid I've ever seen. :D

Valdaoute arpitan has about two dialects, but unfortunately started to disappear during Mussolini's italianization of the region...after WWII, standard french (and not arpitan) was adopted as language of the region...nowadays, about 40-45% of the population have some knowlege of Arpitan.

[le penalty]

Thx for your answers Perdullio !! :thumb001:

[Prince Carlo]

BTW there aren't many difference between Latins and Campanians. Most Latins are of Campanian ancestry and vice-versa.

On FTDNA Campanians share more with their northern neighbors than with their southern ones.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/631/immaginelxa.jpg

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2323/immagine2ld.jpg

[Comte Arnau]

Valdaoute arpitan has about two dialects, but unfortunately started to disappear during Mussolini's italianization of the region...after WWII, standard french (and not arpitan) was adopted as language of the region...nowadays, about 40-45% of the population have some knowlege of Arpitan.

Yes, that's something she told me. You had to be conscious about the language, because otherwise some would simply think it was just broken French.

Same with Switzerland, I guess. Standard German, Standard French and Standard Italian, when the native ones are Alemannic, Romand (Arpitan) and Lombard. :(

[Peyrol]

Yes, that's something she told me. You had to be conscious about the language, because otherwise some would simply think it was just broken French.

Same with Switzerland, I guess. Standard German, Standard French and Standard Italian, when the native ones are Alemannic, Romand (Arpitan) and Lombard. :(

Yes, actually swiss "italian" are lombard speakers, precisely they speak the laghèe ("lake language"), wich is an insubric dialect related with milanese, varesöt, comask, etc), and also ticinese (wich is anothern insubric dialect).

This is laghèe (you can hear the word cadrega for "chair")

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[DannySa]

And cuissinat ? italian surname ?

No, it's french http://lastnames.myheritage.it/last-name/Cuissinat

[MarkyMark]

Vettraino is a surname spread in Lazio (province of Frosinone) next to the border with Campania and Molise.

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi/V/VETTRAINO.gif

Debaldo is currently a nonexistent surname in Italy, but is is present in USA.

Update: Through my aunt's ancestry.com account I found out that the Vettraino's were from Sant'Elia Fuimerapido in Frosinone as you said. I also found out that the Debaldo I'm related to,which is probably Di Baldo, was born in Alvito but was from Caserta.

[Carlito's Way]

any information on Zanatta surname?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pW57ZC3dxbo/TMOmLAGHzGI/AAAAAAAAAEI/ciguGFHkbs4/S300/escudo+za.jpg

[Tacitus]

any information on Zanatta surname?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pW57ZC3dxbo/TMOmLAGHzGI/AAAAAAAAAEI/ciguGFHkbs4/S300/escudo+za.jpg

Try this site: http://www.cognomiitaliani.org/cognomi/index.html

[Swearengen]

That's probably it, Americans seem to enjoy destroying those sort of names, the same happens with Portuguese "De Sousa" and similar ones.

The same thing happens with dutch names. For example, Vanderbilt and the other Van Der ___ names, etc.

[TheBlondeSalad]

any information on Zanatta surname?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pW57ZC3dxbo/TMOmLAGHzGI/AAAAAAAAAEI/ciguGFHkbs4/S300/escudo+za.jpg

Hello :)
The surname Zanatta originated in Veneto (North Eastern Italy).

[Carlito's Way]

Hello :)
The surname Zanatta originated in Veneto (North Eastern Italy).

thank you :thumb001:

[Peyrol]

thank you :thumb001:

It's typical of the city of Venice, but also of Treviso.