Classify some kurdish footballers.

[Demhat]

Classify these Kurdish Footballers.

Name: Jiloan Hamad
Club: Malmö FF
Playing position: Winger
http://www.sydsvenskan.se/Images/media_copied/2011/01/16/ART-2-art_sy3ff751_900370a.jpghttp://www.sydsvenskan.se/Images/media_copied/2011/04/08/AUTO-3-hamad1_943211a.jpg



Name: Bovar Karim
Club: IF Limhamn Bunkeflo
Playing position: Midfielder
http://www.lb07.se/uploads/Image/A-laget/nyhetsbilder/bovar_karim.jpghttp://ss11i01.stream.ip-only.net/images/blog/images/entries/41/26/63/144388/e2892dd071c1ea8ahttp://www.expressen.se/ImageHandler.axd?imageFormat=secondColumn50&guid=df9908af-e918-a2d9-de48-0ac2f578693d



Name: Rawezh lawan
Club: FC Nordsjælland
Playing position: Striker
http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2012/324x324/94043.jpghttp://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/11771995/210/normal/09dedca53ceb5/lawan210%2Blawanhttp://m1.tv2sport.dk/sites/default/files/styles/640x360/public/1401_2845bb79fdddf96f77d75d7ca5a389e4.jpg?11983212 70



Name: Shwan jalal
Club: Bournemouth
Playing position: Goalkeeper
(Before someone asks, he is 100% Kurdish. was born in Iraq an raised in England.)
http://www.theposh.com/javaImages/51/c7/0,,10427~3327825,00.jpghttp://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/resources/images/743862/?type=articlePortraithttp://cdn.talentspotter.fourfourtwo.com/contentimages/player/Shwan_Jalal.jpg




Name: Deniz Naki
Club: FC St. Pauli
Playing position: Striker
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oBwUoO2wfUc/T18ykWLc0sI/AAAAAAAAAZc/7b2FKZhlnmQ/s1600/229310.jpghttp://www.n24.de/media/import/sid/sid_20090625_19/226927.jpghttp://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/zweiteliga/1107/Bilder/fc-st-pauli-deniz-naki-faellt-mit-sehnenriss-mehrere-wochen-aus-514.jpghttp://www.sport1.de/media/_redaktion/sportarten/fussball/2bundesliga0910/vereine_1/fcstpauli/Naki_5x4_ArtikelSchmal.jpg

[Demhat]

Name: Mervan Çelik
Club: GAIS
Playing position: Winger
http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/fileUpload/201111/1321503743.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/06/article-0-120CD1C7000005DC-127_224x423.jpghttp://www.svenskafans.com/image/7/153000/OFFICIELLT-Mervan-Celik-helt-klar-for-GAIS.jpghttp://www.gais.se/Fotboll/gais.nsf/0/03A635834EE9FBA3C1257338003932F1/%24file/27_mervan_celikl_09.jpg

[memobekes]

Jiloan Hamad - Armenoid + Irano-Afghan Race
Bovar Karim - Irano-Afghan Race + Armeno-Alpinoid
Rawez Lawan - Eastmediterranean
Shwan Jalal - Atlanto-Mediterranean
Deniz Naki - Pred. Mediterranean, slight Alpinoid influences probably
Mervan Çelik - Brachycephalised Mediterranean + Cro-Magnoid

[Demhat]

Jiloan Hamad - Armenoid + Irano-Afghan Race
Bovar Karim - Irano-Afghan Race + Armeno-Alpinoid
Rawez Lawan - Eastmediterranean
Shwan Jalal - Atlanto-Mediterranean
Deniz Naki - Pred. Mediterranean, slight Alpinoid influences probably
Mervan Çelik - Brachycephalised Mediterranean + Cro-Magnoid


with Irano-Afghan you probably mean Iranid (I prefer the term Iranid).

Thx for the classification but are you sure about Shwan Jalal being Atlanto-Med?

[memobekes]

with Irano-Afghan you probably mean Iranid (I prefer the term Iranid).

Thx for the classification but are you sure about Shwan Jalal being Atlanto-Med?

Yes, Iranid. I think it was the American anthropologist Carleton S. Coon who coined that term. I'm not sure why though as I see Iranids phenotypically-genetically different from Nord-Indids.

I classified Jalal as an Atlanto-Med based on his straight nose (leptorrhine); rounded occiput; height (he's quite tall at 6ft 2in); closely set eyes; robust traits.

[Demhat]

I classified Jalal as an Atlanto-Med based on his straight nose (leptorrhine); rounded occiput; height (he's quite tall at 6ft 2in); closely set eyes; robust traits.

Sure exactly, but his general facial features and headshape makes me wonder if he is not Celtic Nordic.

[Sikeliot]

I agree with memobekes for the most part.. most of them remind me of Turks actually. I would not know the difference.

[Demhat]

I agree with memobekes for the most part.. most of them remind me of Turks actually. I would not know the difference.

I also think He made a pretty good classification. The only difference is that I believe Shwan Jalal is pred. Celtic Nordic. What do you think? His facial features dont seem Iberian to me. And Also Deniz Naki I would classify as Atlanto-Med with sligh Alpine.

[Sikeliot]

I also think He made a pretty good classification. The only difference is that I believe Shwan Jalal is pred. Celtic Nordic.

He's not to me. More Dinarid.

[memobekes]

Sure exactly, but his general facial features and headshape makes me wonder if he is not Celtic Nordic.

The similarities are there and this guy can def. fit in Britain as a local, no doubt about it.

Keltic-Nordics are generally associated with Celts and have some Dinaric intermixture. But I don't know too much about this type so I cannot make many healthy comments on it unfortunately.

[Demhat]

He's not to me. More Dinarid.

hm ok, but I think he is too dolichocephalic. Beside William having a shade lighter hair they have pretty similar Nose and Headshape.

http://www.sponkit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/prince-william7.jpghttp://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/resources/images/743862/?type=articlePortrait

[Arne]

He could fit in England and for a Balkanic
http://www.theposh.com/javaImages/51/c7/0,,10427~3327825,00.jpg

[sturmwalkure]

Paleonegroid.

[Arne]

Pass in Albania cause of the Balkan Vibe.
http://www.sport1.de/media/_redaktion/sportarten/fussball/2bundesliga0910/vereine_1/fcstpauli/Naki_5x4_ArtikelSchmal.jpg

[Demhat]

He could fit in England and for a Balkanic
http://www.theposh.com/javaImages/51/c7/0,,10427~3327825,00.jpg

Thats why I think He is Celtic Nordic. He has this slight Dinaric features though having a Dolichgocephalic head which is typical for Celtic Nordic but untypical for Atlantids and Atlanto-Meds.

[sturmwalkure]

Seriously though I was messing around a bit with my firt joke classification. Some of thee guys can pass in Southeast Europe.

[Demhat]

Seriously though I was messing around a bit with my firt joke classification. Some of thee guys can pass in Southeast Europe.

It was too obvious. I have a sense of humor, your welcome :thumb001:

[memobekes]

There seems to be a racial continuation between Celtic-Nordics, Atlanto-Mediterraneans and Iranids based on photo evidence.

This Iranid man below, who shows Dinaroform tendencies, has Cro-Magnoid influences which would automatically put him near-close to robust Atlanto-Med types.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3431&d=1261424580

[sturmwalkure]

It was too obvious. I have a sense of humor, your welcome :thumb001:

I didn't want to be accused of trolling you know. :D

[Arne]

It was too obvious. I have a sense of humor, your welcome :thumb001:

That´s pretty absent on some other Folks.. :rolleyes:

[Sikeliot]

This one interestingly enough looks like some "white" Hispanics, particularly Cubans, Puerto Ricans, and the like.

http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2012/324x324/94043.jpg

[Demhat]

This one interestingly enough looks like some "white" Hispanics, particularly Cubans, Puerto Ricans, and the like.

http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2012/324x324/94043.jpg

I agree and this one gives me some very Berid vibe.

http://www.lb07.se/uploads/Image/A-laget/nyhetsbilder/bovar_karim.jpghttp://www.expressen.se/ImageHandler.axd?imageFormat=secondColumn50&guid=df9908af-e918-a2d9-de48-0ac2f578693d

[Sikeliot]

I agree and this one gives me some very Berid vibe.

http://www.lb07.se/uploads/Image/A-laget/nyhetsbilder/bovar_karim.jpg

That one looks like a North African cromagnid type.

[Demhat]

That one looks like a North African cromagnid type.

Yes and those overlap with European Berids. What I mean that he has a obvious "Western paleo alpine (cromagnid)" vibe.

[Sikeliot]

Yes and those overlap with European Berids. What I mean that he has a obvious "Western paleo alpine (cromagnid)" vibe.

Indeed. I could easily picture him as a northern coastal Algerian/Moroccan or as a Canarian Spaniard.

[Demhat]

Here are some more.

Ömer Erdogan
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4xaUi7cQkNo/S_b54GDqPtI/AAAAAAAAE3s/YdP_MP3l7wM/s1600/erdogan09_1.jpghttp://www.sporxtv.com/flv/2010/08/07/6f050537f8a0fa3fa57bf9483907518d_1.jpghttp://mediadb.kicker.de/2011/fussball/spieler/xl/1760_1132_2010914173216459.jpg




Hawar Mulla Mohammed
http://mediadb.kicker.de/2009/fussball/spieler/xl/44491_988.jpghttp://www.aicfoto.com/ImageMedium.ashx?id=147913




khandan ciawar
http://oi29.tinypic.com/28bsio4.jpghttp://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/260825_711953839_522998560_n.jpghttp://img.kooora.com/i.aspx?i=iraq%2farbeel%2fciawarkhandan.jpg




Okan Alkan
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg841/scaled.php?server=841&filename=okanalkan.jpg&res=landinghttp://foto.fanatik.com.tr/news/423x238/2010/9/2/fft1mm1167893.jpghttp://www.tff.org/Resources/TFF/Auto/6b618c41d9b946dfb7412c78b0a5bffc.jpg



Aram Khalili
http://fotball.adressa.no/multimedia/spillere/aram_b.jpghttp://www.glimt.no/sites/g/glimt.no/files/5e0da75bbdaa2de5ecb052095d5530ea.jpghttp://www.glimt.no/sites/g/glimt.no/files/d26854fca1725f5a06030d2c3d0ae36c.jpg



Brwa Nouri
http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/20040221173lft1wdjq.jpg

[Demhat]

Eren Derdiyok
http://74.img.v4.skyrock.net/740/missshy17/pics/2675624234_1.gifhttp://f3.blick.ch/img/incoming/origs1870718/0705569929-w644-h429/15-derdi-50-p.jpghttp://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/derdiyok-24649951_mbqf-1328273229-22440840/2,h%3D343.bild.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Ömer Erdogan= Atlanto-Pontid. Almost looks like an Atlanto-Med Iberian but not quite.

Hawar Mulla Mohammed= East Med/CM. He'd pass in southern Italy and Greece.

khandan ciawar= Pontid/East Med.

Okan Alkan= Irano-Pontid.

Aram Khalili= East Med

Brwa Nouri= Irano-Pontid

Eren Derdiyok= Turanid/Pontid/CM

[Demhat]

Ömer Erdogan= Atlanto-Pontid. Almost looks like an Atlanto-Med Iberian but not quite.

Hawar Mulla Mohammed= East Med/CM. He'd pass in southern Italy and Greece.

khandan ciawar= Pontid/East Med.

Okan Alkan= Irano-Pontid.

Aram Khalili= East Med

Brwa Nouri= Irano-Pontid

Eren Derdiyok= Turanid/Pontid/CM


Agreed just that I would put the "Turanid" on third place by Eren, his other components are obviously stronger.

Khandan Ciawar seems to me more Irano-Pontid/CM. And Okan Alkan has obvious CM component, so CM/Irano-Pontid.

[Sikeliot]

Agreed just that I would put the "Turanid" on third place by Eren, his other components are obviously stronger.

I didn't list them in order but in the order I recognized them in. :lol:

[Guapo]

they all look albanian

[Arne]

Looks almost Albanian http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg841/scaled.php?server=841&filename=okanalkan.jpg&res=landing

[Guapo]

He does indeed, kinda like Hess as well.

[Vanguard]

They look like your everyday Serbs,leftovers of the Maghrebians on the Balkans.

[Guapo]

They look like your everyday albaniansleftovers of the Maghrebians on the Balkans.

fixed, you butthurt, islamic cunt?

[Demhat]

they all look albanian

some of them might pass as the more "Mediterranean" Albanians I have seen, while the lighter part of Albanians of which there are enough, look pretty distinct. I know two types of Albanians.

The lighter ones which look similar to him.
http://www4.slikomat.com/11/1013/umy-3.jpg

And then there are many who look like this Kurdish Guy who is making fun of some heavy woman on one of those stupid talkshows. I know an Albanian Guy who looks like his twin (No Gypsy but 100% Albanian looks Dinaric+Eastmed).

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[Arne]

some of them might pass as the more "Mediterranean" Albanians I have seen, while the lighter part of Albanians of which there are enough, look pretty distinct. I know two types of Albanians.

The lighter ones which look similar to him.

And then there are many who look like this Kurdish Guy who is making fun of some heavy woman on one of those stupid talkshows. I know an Albanian Guy who looks like his twin (No Gypsy but 100% Albanian looks Dinaric+Eastmed).

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This kurd is annoying us in Germany..

[Demhat]

This kurd is annoying us in Germany..

Its sometimes fun to see how idiots are making fun of idiots ;)

The most liked Kurd in Germany is probably Azad (the Guy with the Black shirt and sunglas)xtT7Qf-HO9k

[aherne]

hm ok, but I think he is too dolichocephalic. Beside William having a shade lighter hair they have pretty similar Nose and Headshape.

http://www.sponkit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/prince-william7.jpghttp://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/resources/images/743862/?type=articlePortrait

That's an excellent comparison of Corded and Steppe varieties, showing clearly they are in the end nothing but variations of same race (the Aryan race) instead of two different races.

[aherne]

Jiloan Hamad
Turanid + EastMediterannean
Looks like an absolute Turk.

Bovar Karim
CroMagnid + EastMediterannean

Rawezh Iawan
Semitic + CroMagnid

Shwan jalal
Aryan (steppe type, of course) + some Iranid
Cranial form is absolutely characteristic for steppe type (irano-nordid). Hair and eyes pigmentation are inherited from Iranid side. Skin pigmentation hovers strongly towards Aryan side.

Deniz Naki
Iranid

Mervan Çelik
Iranid + Semitic

[safinator]

Can pass in Albania
http://www.theposh.com/javaImages/51/c7/0,,10427~3327825,00.jpg

[Kanuni]

some of them might pass as the more "Mediterranean" Albanians I have seen, while the lighter part of Albanians of which there are enough, look pretty distinct. I know two types of Albanians.


Yes,lighter Albanians have a distinct look.Similar to this guy.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/262496_257487144263116_2731083_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/250254_257488417596322_2545178_n.jpg

Regarding the Kurds.Few of these footballers can pass as Albanians(the one quoted by safinator) but mostly have distinct look.

[safinator]

Yes,lighter Albanians have a distinct look.Similar to this guy.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/262496_257487144263116_2731083_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/250254_257488417596322_2545178_n.jpg

Regarding the Kurds.Few of these footballers can pass as Albanians(the one quoted by safinator) but mostly have distinct look.
I don't think he's particularly light, just light eyed but maybe it's the pic.

[Kanuni]

I don't think he's particularly light, just light eyed but maybe it's the pic.

By light i mean light eyed/light haired.I have seen Nordid looking persons more tanned than some Pontid ones.

And he is definitely light type(not particularly as you said but still),check here.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206198_257485940929903_6970859_n.jpg

[cammarrone]

J
Mervan Çelik - Brachycephalised Mediterranean + Cro-Magnoid

No. He's not white.

[Siginulfo]

No. He's not white.

He is white.

[aherne]

Can pass in Albania
http://www.theposh.com/javaImages/51/c7/0,,10427~3327825,00.jpg

That's because he approaches Dacians' phenotype. Resembles Romanian footballer, Dorin Goian:
http://euro2008.onlinesport.ro/uploads/images/romania/goian.jpg?0.5792310759592029
Notice that Goian exhibits the typical steppe pigmentation (golden hair, blue eyes), whereas the Kurdish guy does not (because the elements he's admixed with are very UN-blond).

[cammarrone]

He is white.


Ma stai scherzando?????

http://www.todayheads.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/3fe52__Mervan-Celik-Rangers_2705222.jpg

Potrebbe chiamarsi Abdul

[Siginulfo]

Ma stai scherzando?????

http://www.todayheads.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/3fe52__Mervan-Celik-Rangers_2705222.jpg

Potrebbe chiamarsi Abdul

Non sto scherzando. Si chiama Robust Cro-Magnoid+Taurid. Non credo che i Semiti lo scambino per Abdul.

[Demhat]

That's because he approaches Dacians' phenotype. Resembles Romanian footballer, Dorin Goian:
http://euro2008.onlinesport.ro/uploads/images/romania/goian.jpg?0.5792310759592029
Notice that Goian exhibits the typical steppe pigmentation (golden hair, blue eyes), whereas the Kurdish guy does not (because the elements he's admixed with are very UN-blond).

Well the Kurd actually does also have Blue eyes.

[Demhat]

That's an excellent comparison of Corded and Steppe varieties, showing clearly they are in the end nothing but variations of same race (the Aryan race) instead of two different races.

Imo he does not look very steppic but more Celtic like Nordid.

An excellent example of steppic type is this Kurd here.

http://www.hpg-sehit.com/wene/sehit_kunyeleri/2009/celal_abdulgani_ayar.jpghttp://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/unbenanntm5ycskgbqe.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/unbenannts1qi32c4fko.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

(Yes I know he is not your average Kurd, this wasnt the purpose of posting him but to show a good example of steppic people, though he belongs to the variety among Kurds.)

[aherne]

An excellent example of steppic type is this Kurd here.

http://www.hpg-sehit.com/wene/sehit_kunyeleri/2009/celal_abdulgani_ayar.jpg

Or this Romanian here:
http://stamford-bridge.com/images/petrescu.jpg
Notice the similarity between them...

[GeistFaust]

1. Jiloan Hamad: Iranid with additional Armenoid influences possible.

2. Bovar Karim: Robust Iranid predominantly.

3. Rawezh Lawan: Armenoid-Iranid/Anatolid range

4. Shwan Jalal: Nord-Iranid with additional strong to standard Armenoid influences.

5. Deniz Naki: Pontid with additional strong to standard East-Mediterranid influences, and additional Dinaro-Alpinoid influences possible.

6. Mervan Celik: Robust Iranid predominantly.