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Bloodeagle
06-08-2009, 05:40 PM
Though this is not new news, I sense it is a subject not many are aware of.

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Russia plants flag on North Pole seabed

* Tom Parfitt in Moscow
* guardian.co.uk, Thursday 2 August 2007 18.01 BST
* Article history

Russia symbolically staked its claim to billions of dollars worth of oil and gas reserves in the Arctic Ocean today when two mini submarines reached the seabed more than two and a half miles beneath the North Pole.

In a record-breaking dive, the two craft planted a one metre-high titanium Russian flag on the underwater Lomonosov ridge, which Moscow claims is directly connected to its continental shelf.

However, the dangerous mission prompted ridicule and scepticism among other contenders for the Arctic's energy wealth, with Canada comparing it to a 15th century colonial land grab.

Descending to 4,300 metres, the mini-subs Mir-1 and Mir-2 collected water and sediment samples from the seabed. Russian scientists hope the samples will shore up their claim that the ridge is an integral part of Russia.

If Russia's claim is approved by the UN, the country could gain rights over supplies of hydrocarbons that some experts put at 10bn tonnes. The ice cap is melting, making exploration and drilling for oil and gas easier.

Speaking from the three-person Mir-1 on the ocean floor to colleagues aboard the research ship Akademik Fyodorov, the expedition's leader, Artur Chilingarov, said it had been a "soft landing".

"There is yellowish gravel down here. No creatures of the deep are visible," he added. Shortly before the dive, Mr Chilingarov, 68, a veteran polar explorer, told reporters his mission was to prove "the Arctic is Russian".

Russian state television trumpeted the successful dive, saying Russia could soon lay claim to 460,000 square miles of underwater territory. Speaking on the sidelines of talks in Manila, the Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, said: "I think the expedition will allow us to get the extra scientific proof for what we are planning to achieve."

However, Moscow's stance riled other northern hemisphere countries with their own claims to waters around the North Pole.

"This isn't the 15th century. You can't go around the world and just plant flags and say: 'We're claiming this territory'," the Canadian foreign minister, Peter MacKay, told CTV television.

Mr MacKay predicted that the Russian expedition would not bear fruit, adding: "There is no threat to Canadian sovereignty in the Arctic ... we're not at all concerned about this mission. Basically it's just a show by Russia."

Under the UN convention on the law of the sea, the five states with territory inside the Arctic Circle - Canada, Norway, Russia, the US, and Denmark, via its control of Greenland - have economic rights over a 200-mile zone around the north of their coastline.

However, the convention is open to appeal, and several countries are disputing the limits of this zone.

Russia believes its Siberian shelf is directly linked to the Lomonosov ridge, an underwater mountain crest that runs 1,240 miles across the polar region. In 2001, Moscow submitted research findings to that effect to the UN, but they were rejected, and it is expected to resubmit its claim in 2009.

Kim Holmen, the research director of the governmental Norwegian Polar Institute, told the Guardian that Russia's confidence could be misplaced.

Asked whether sediment samples from the ocean bed could prove the Lomonosov ridge and the Russian continental shelf were one and the same, he said: "In the geological sense, yes, but in the cartographic and political sense, no.

"The United States and Europe were at one time connected, the Appalachians and the Scottish mountains are the same geological formation, but Scotland cannot claim the United States is part of its territory because of that. These samples cannot prove once and for all that the whole discussion is over".

Depth soundings and other data would also be needed to stake a claim, he said.

However, the sceptics held no sway in Russia as the country swelled with national pride. "This is a serious, risky and heroic mission," Sergei Balyasnikov, a spokesman for the Arctic and Antarctic Institute, said.

"It's a very important move for Russia to demonstrate its potential in the Arctic. It's like putting a flag on the Moon."

Mir-1 has now returned safely to the surface, having been lowered by derrick into freezing waters cleared by the icebreaker Rossiya. Mir-2 is expected to appear shortly afterwards.

EWtt
06-08-2009, 06:04 PM
I remember there was a fuss about some things when the news first came out:


UNEARTHLY blue lights played across the ocean floor four kilometres below the North Pole as the heroic Russian explorers descended in mini-submarines to plant a metre-high flag.

That's what the Russian state television company, Rossiya, wanted us to believe. The truth was rather different.

In an apparent attempt to "sex up" a news program, the TV station has been caught passing off footage from the 1997 Hollywood blockbuster Titanic as a real-life report on the Kremlin's recent attempt to stake its claim to the riches of the Arctic Ocean.

Rossiya's images were distributed around the world, appearing on television news, websites and as "screen grabs" in newspapers.

It took an alert teenager in Finland with a Titanic DVD to spot the sham. Waltteri Seretin, 13, recognised the images in the national daily, Ilta-Sanomat.

"I was looking at the photo of the Russian sub expedition and I noticed immediately that there was something familiar about the picture," he told the paper.

"I checked it with my DVD and there it was, right there in the beginning of the movie; exactly the same image of the submersibles approaching the ship."

James Cameron's film about the 1912 disaster opens with a scene of mini-subs diving to inspect the wreck of the Titanic. In the Russian report, expedition images from the movie were inserted into real footage and bore an on-screen caption reading "northern Arctic Ocean".

As the Titanic images were shown, a correspondent said: "When the mini-submarine got to 300 metres, the unloading of the second sub began."

In fact, a Finnish company made the mini-subs the Russians used and Cameron used them in his film. But it is thought the scene from the movie shown on Russian TV was originally filmed using models in a studio.

Rossiya is one of two state-controlled channels that have been turned into propaganda tools under President Vladimir Putin and it is the second time in two weeks that the Vesti news program has faked a broadcast.

Ten days ago, it mocked up a copy of The Times newspaper to make it appear as though the paper had run a critical article about London-based businessman Boris Berezovsky on its front page. The article actually appeared in the comment section.

Rossiya refused to comment on the polar footage, but the boy who identified it gave a damning indictment of the show. "I have heard that they don't always tell the truth in Russia but I didn't think they could have screwed it up that badly," he said.

Moscow trumpeted the polar expedition as a PR coup in its effort to prove the Arctic is Russian, and veteran explorer Artur Chilingarov and his team returned to a heroes' welcome.

The TV fiasco adds fresh controversy to the expedition, which caused resentment among northern hemisphere nations seeking their share of the Arctic's energy riches - at least 10 billion tonnes of hydrocarbons.

Alexei Simonov, of the Glasnost Defence Foundation, said the channel had attempted to dupe viewers. "This is a sign of the sheer unprofessionalism that reigns when television is turned into a pawn of the authorities," he said.


Source (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/08/11/1186530667954.html)

Lenny
06-13-2009, 07:20 AM
LOL...

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3410/russianclaims.jpg
(Picture first appeared on Apricity Russoskeptics social group (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/group.php?groupid=22)!!)

A certain subsection of the demoralized nationalist/racialist bloc in the West glorifies Putin and overlooks any and all deficiencies or negatives as regards the Bear. The typical Russian thuggish aggressiveness and so forth - the mentality that would "claim the North Pole for Russia" - is totally ignored by this group of people. Why? They seem to genuinely think that Putin can/will "save us" in a deus-ex-machina fashion. Complete foolishness, if you ask me. The specter of Lenin's "useful idiots" raises its ghostly figure at this phenomenon, too.

This goofy "claiming the North Pole" business proves it, once again. That is - proves the foolishness in belief in Putin as a deus-ex-machina figure for European Man.

Russia is just trying to aggrandize itself and the expense of others, largely at the expense of its European neighbors (it already dominates its pushover Central-Asian neighbors) and therefore Russia-worship is counter-productive in the extreme.