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Vulpix
06-09-2009, 08:39 AM
Is fascism on the march again? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/09/bnp-fascism-meps-far-right)

Does the election of two BNP MEPs and the success of the far right elsewhere in Europe mean we are facing the threat of fascism? Or is this just a protest vote that will quickly fade? Leading historians give their verdicts



Interviews by Stephen Moss (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/stephenmoss) and John Crace (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/johncrace)
The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian), Tuesday 9 June 2009

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Demonstrators confront a British National Party member at the Town


Michael Burleigh

Author of The Third Reich, A New History
We should be wary about the rise of the far right (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/far-right) but not panicky. Even though I write commentary pieces for the Daily Mail, I am not given to hysteria. I don't like all these stupid historical analogies - this is not a re-run of the 1930s. In some ways, history can box you in and limit your options. We live in a very different world, and these parties organise themselves in a very different way. Hitler didn't Twitter.
Conditions in Europe are very different now from those that prevailed in the 1930s. We haven't had a catastrophic European war, with resentments about how that ended. We should also be cautious about saying that an economic recession inevitably leads to the rise of the far right. The fascists came to power in Italy (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/italy) long before the Depression. There is no automatic link. In Germany, most of the unemployed voted for the communists.
It is too early to say whether the rightwing parties that did well in the European election will have any historical significance, or whether they will offer a Europe-wide threat to mainstream politics. Although I suspect they may be better co-ordinated than leftwing parties, they are all subtly different. We should also be aware that rightwing parties can evolve. It is odd that the evolution of communist parties into Eurocommunist parties was recognised, but these rightwing parties are seen as mysteriously static and rooted in the 1930s. You just have to look at the BNP (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/bnp) to see how it is trying to adapt its approach to changed circumstances, ramping up its hostility to the EU while playing down other aspects of its policy.
The left has a vested interest in playing up the threat of fascism. It uses it to reoxygenate itself: Margaret Hodge has been doing this for years, and Labour was doing it again before this election. A better approach is to take the BNP seriously. Don't turn them into martyrs by banning them from the airwaves. Ask them about their other policies: how they would get us out of recession; what their foreign policy is. Launch an assault on the BNP brand, and don't let them appropriate symbols of Britishness - such as the Spitfire they were using on their posters in this election.
We shouldn't panic about these results. The real story is that the centre-right has done very well across Europe. Where far-right parties have been elected in the past they have tended to be woefully incompetent and lackadaisical, and on the whole they haven't been re-elected. Supporters of the BNP tend to be disaffected Labour voters who are voting as an act of defiance against the political elite - and the elite has given them plenty to be defiant about. I'd only start to worry if this became a trend. The real danger, though, may come in the Baltic states and eastern Europe. Countries there have been hit by severe economic turbulence, they have little experience of democracy and politics is volatile. Parties can come from nowhere and win power.


Richard Overy

Professor of history at Exeter University and author of The Morbid Age: Britain Between the Wars
The BNP have been around for a long time and have never managed to make a serious breakthrough, so we have to get this into perspective. This should be seen as a protest vote at a difficult moment; it does not mean that the UK electorate is swinging in favour of fascism.
The Ukip vote is more interesting. That is a vote the BNP might have been expected to pick up, and if it had won 20% or more, that would have been worrying. With the loss of public confidence in parliament, growing nationalism and alarm at terrorism, this is a moment when you might have expected votes to flow to the BNP. A loss of confidence in parliamentary institutions is characteristic of all periods when fascists have come to power - in Italy and Germany, for example - but on this occasion the BNP has not done especially well. People have preferred to vote for Ukip. It is essentially a protest vote at a moment of crisis in the political system. Parliamentary politics will eventually be restored, but almost certainly not under Gordon Brown.
I am more worried about the drift to the right in the rest of Europe, where the mood is fearful, anti-immigrant, anti-Islam and deeply hostile to the left. Europe clearly feels embattled because of factors such as terrorism and the rise of China, and has been moving to the right for some time. But we shouldn't interpret this rightwing drift as a return to fascism.
Fascism with a capital F was a phenomenon of the 20s and 30s. It was a revolutionary movement asserting a violent imperialism and promising a new social order. There is nothing like that now. Far-right parties now are based on fear - fear of immigration, fear of aliens, fear of being Europeanised. They have no vision of a new social order, nor can they legally campaign for the replacement of a democratic government by an authoritarian regime. This is a protest vote by fearful people.


Kathleen Burk

Professor of modern and contemporary history at University College London
If we think about Oswald Mosley's Blackshirts, we shouldn't be too apprehensive about where the BNP might go in the future. Even at their height, the entire membership of the British Union of Fascists could barely raise a single marching column. It is unfortunate that the BNP have won seats and some will see it as alarming, but I can't see it spreading all over the country. The BNP did badly in east London, for instance, where they would surely have hoped to do well, especially at a time of economic recession.
I cannot imagine what cataclysm would have to happen for a far-right party not only to be able to grow but to win power in the UK. This is an extremely old country with old mores, and the great rump of the people are not going to be attracted by a far-right party. What we have seen is the sort of protest vote that often happens midterm, and it won't occur at the general election, when real power is at stake.
The only countries in Europe that I would be apprehensive about are Austria, which did, after all, welcome the Nazis back in 1938; Romania, which has a nasty rightwing party; and Hungary (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/hungary), where the Roma are a big issue. Poland (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/poland) is encouraging in the way it has taken to membership of the European Union, and the election there has been won by a mainstream centre-right party. In general, this is not at all like the 30s: some voters are supporting alternative fringe parties, but I would be astonished if they were able to consolidate their power.


Eric Hobsbawm

Author of The Age of Extremes: The Short Twentieth Century (1914-1991), among others
It is not the threat from the extreme right that is the most striking characteristic of these elections, though clearly there is a shift to the right, and centre-right governments are likely to make more concessions to the far right. The real story is the crisis of the left .
We have been here before, in the 1930s when the net effect of the Depression was to strengthen the right and nullify the left - Labour was reduced to 50 MPs in 1931. The left rose again, but I am not optimistic about it being able to do so this time. Social democratic parties across Europe are in decline. That decline is not as dramatic as the communists a generation ago, but it is still marked. The European left relied on a working class that no longer exists in its old form, and in order to recover it will need to find a new constituency. That may be hard.
The left is in trouble everywhere: Labour in the UK, the French socialists, the Italian democrats. The Spanish socialists, one of the few leftwing parties to gain in recent years, have also slipped. The SPD in Germany are not doing as badly as expected, but they are down to around 20%, and these losses are not compensated by the votes for the New Left party. We have seen the demoralisation of the French left and a degree of disintegration of the left in Germany. Social democrats will need a new vision as well as a new constituency.


Joanna Bourke

Professor of history at Birkbeck College, London
We shouldn't panic, though nor should we be complacent. The levels of racial hatred and antisemitism and all those things that the far right feed on are remarkably small in comparison with the past and in comparison with the rest of Europe and the United States. The far right has much more purchase in the US than it does in the UK, especially the religious right.
Here I tend to be much more optimistic about British institutions and about the ways they have managed these sorts of hatreds. What was interesting about Mosley in the 1930s is that our institutions did not give legitimacy to the claims of the far right. They didn't make them into scapegoats or martyrs; they responded with the force of law in a fairly reasonable fashion. If you oppress them or deal with them heavyhandedly, it only serves to unite them and justify them using force in return.
In Italy, the fascists, faced by an oppressive state, were seen as martyrs, and that won them popular support. In the UK, they were seen as thugs and marginalised. Mosley's New Party, which sought to work through the democratic system, attracted a large membership, but once he openly became a fascist and his party became virulently antisemitic and anti-immigrant, that support melted away. Don't censor or oppress the BNP. Marginalise and ridicule them. Ridicule is an underestimated weapon.


David Kynaston

Research fellow at Kingston University and author of Austerity Britain
As Nadezhda Mandelstam, wife of Russian poet Osip Mandelstam, said of Stalinism in her book Hope Against Hope, "Don't think it can't happen to you." There are definite parallels between Germany in the prewar years and now, most obviously the economic crisis that sparked mass unemployment. The Wall Street Crash took place in 1929 but it wasn't until January 1933 that Hitler became chancellor of Germany; I would suggest that we are a long way from seeing the worst of our own economic crisis and if we date the start as being September 2008 then we still have a while to go in which the far right could gain a stronghold.
More worryingly, the recession has been accompanied by a rise in populism and a loss of faith in democratic politics; the sort of people who, a generation ago, did not used to be cynical about politics now are. Worse still, people are not just indifferent to politics, they are ignorant about it: the level of hostility to intellectualism in this country is deeply depressing.
The BNP is a different animal to Ukip. Ukip can at least make a defensible democratic case for itself; we were promised a referendum on Europe and we haven't been given one - almost certainly because it would be lost. There is something far more sinister about the BNP because it is an overtly racist party. This is a problem because liberal democracies are not good at dealing with extremism.
Somehow we need to find a way of exposing the BNP, while stopping it from manipulating the system to its advantage. It would help here if politicians from the main parties were more honest and treated the electorate like adults. It is clear from the budget forecasts that the country is basically bust, yet the Labour party carries on its "yah boo" politics of claiming it is not going to cut any public services while the Conservatives have fudged the whole issue on what they intend to do. Both stances are patronising and unsustainable. The public knows the country is bust and there are hard choices to make: it's time the main parties allowed us to join in a grown-up debate about them.


Norman Davies

Supernumerary fellow at Wolfson College, Oxford, and fellow of the British Academy
Any comparisons with 1920s Germany are completely overstated. Fascism grew out of the crushing military defeat in which millions of Germans were killed and the moral humiliation of the Treaty of Versailles which held that Germany alone was responsible for the first world war. This was tantamount to saying that German families, who had done exactly the same as the British and Americans in sending their conscripted sons to fight, had killed their own children and was the catalyst for anti-Jewish conspiracy theories and the emergence of a far-right nationalist movement. Economic depression on its own would not have allowed fascism to flourish.
That does not mean we should be relaxed about the rise of the BNP. While Ukip thrives on the notion that the EU is the new Third Reich, the BNP is much more Anglo-centric; it wants to reclaim an imagined Albion dominated by white nationals. It is a party that is actually misnamed, for its essence is the English National party and, with the collapse of the Labour vote in Scotland giving the SNP an overwhelming majority, the break-up of the United Kingdom must be a possibility.
The BNP also has more natural allies among the far right in Europe - the Dutch Freedom party and the French National Front in particular - than Ukip. However, it is worth remembering that the one thing on which you can rely is that far-right parties will fall out with each other, so they are unlikely to form a mass European movement.
What we do need to be concerned about is David Cameron's current flirtation with the Polish rightwing Law and Justice party, led by Jaroslaw and Lech Kaczynski. Up until now the British media has been giving the Kaczynski brothers far too easy a time. The brothers, totally lacking in ideology, are falling over themselves with joy at being courted by the Conservatives. They are manipulative politicians with no scruples. In the past they have boycotted state TV, restricting their appearances to Radju Marija - the station belonging to an extreme Catholic nationalist group - and have repeatedly tried to smear centrist politicians and have even claimed that Lech Walesa was a Soviet agent. It's too simplistic to call them merely far-right - homophobia and anti-Semitism aren't nearly as much of a problem in Poland as is often claimed - but they do hold the communist-era assumption that Germany is plotting to take over Poland again. Fundamentally, they are anti-liberal and determined to do down democracy. Cameron will definitely come off badly if he gets too close to them.


David Stevenson

Professor of international history at the LSE; author of The Penguin History of the First World war
The election of two BNP MEPs is a very depressing development. But in some ways the surprising thing is that their support hasn't gone up more. The recession, the influx of immigration and the fact that all the mainstream parties are tarred with the same brush in the expenses scandal should work in their favour.
The parallel I would make is not with the rise of fascism in the 1930s but with the success of Jean-Marie Le Pen in France in the 1980s. He made his breakthrough in areas where the French communist party had been strong. As the communists collapsed, Le Pen's Front National came in and took over. Now, in the UK, a portion of the vote that traditionally went to the Labour party has gone to the BNP. When Nick Griffin talks about the country being full and immigrants taking British jobs, he strikes a chord.
The BNP is different in style and structure from fascism in the 1930s. Clad in uniforms, fascists then organised themselves in paramilitary groups; they marched and engaged in street fighting. Far-right parties still have their bully boys, but there are fewer of them, though the danger is that they will multiply.
Even more worrying, though, is what will happen in other parts of Europe. The far right did badly in France and Germany, but areas of concern are Hungary and the Baltic states. Then there is the whole question of Italy. Berlusconi has strengthened his support and is a threat to civil liberties. He controls the media, and the left are weak and powerless against him. He is not far-right in the sense that Hitler was far-right, but he is a threat to democracy. Italy has become a western-European equivalent of the sort of guided democracy you get in Russia.
There are many worrying developments across Europe, and a number of different phenomena we need to be aware of. It is wrong to expect that an economic depression will help the left. It didn't in the 1930s, nor in the 1870s and 80s, when the radical, populist right was born. It seems that in periods of economic uncertainty, people look to authoritarianism rather than democracy.

Treffie
06-09-2009, 08:51 AM
I heard today that the BNP is now more popular than Oswald Mosley ever was.

finironcross
06-09-2009, 08:57 AM
Why is it that these people start panicking when democracy goes into action? It seems there is one set of acceptable opinions, and everything else is strictly verboten...

Treffie
06-09-2009, 09:11 AM
Why is it that these people start panicking when democracy goes into action? It seems there is one set of acceptable opinions, and everything else is strictly verboten...

Exactly! They're acting like bad tempered brats - things obviously aren't going their way! :)

Poltergeist
06-09-2009, 11:01 AM
Fascism arose as consequence of very specific social, political and economic circumstances reigning in Italy immediately after the First World War. These very specific circumstances are highly unlikely ever to arise again, which makes anything like "restoration of fascism" an impossibility. Even if someone really wanted to restore it...

finironcross
06-09-2009, 11:48 AM
I disagree. The current situation is a direct tracing of the 1920's. There is the increase of poverty, massive unemployment which is just now kicking in, degeneration of morals and overall hopelessness. Nationalism rises in situations, especially with the youth, when there is nothing to be proud of in the current day. Thus, they turn to history to feel pride. It is our duty, whether Nationalsocialists or which ever kind of preservationists, to overthrow the system and make the youth proud to exist again. This requires revolutionary achievements in the fields of politics, arts, sciences and a collaboration between all Whites to bring a sense of unity for our youngest kin. As the lyrics of one of my favourite songs goes;

Die Jugend stolz, die Fahnen hoch, man hört uns schon marschieren!

The question of our time is not if reactionary nationalism will rise, it is when this will happen. As the Judaic supremacists accelerate the downfall of our civilization, more and more White European People will rise up to meet this challenge of gentile genocide. We must specifically focus on our youngest generations and shift their focus from self-hating and loathing to a New Order, a true and most importantly honorable Weltanschauung.

Beorn
06-09-2009, 11:48 AM
The only countries in Europe that I would be apprehensive about are Austria, which did, after all, welcome the Nazis back in 1938:confused: Was there a 2.5 Reich with ensuing war I haven't read about?

Good article, and I did love the historian, Michael Burleigh's,ever so self admitting stamp at his hysterical employers --"Even though I write commentary pieces for the Daily Mail, I am not given to hysteria." :D
(and I just googled his name to confirm my suspicions. A very good book (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Third-Reich-New-History/dp/0330487574).)

All this nonsense of fascism looming over the shores of Britain and Europe and what should be done about it all, what justifications shall we decide upon to peddle as the latest BS to the masses...etc, is rather worrying in itself.

I was watching Channel 4 news last night with my favourite newsreader(:eek:) Krishnan Guru Murthy, who had Margaret Hodge and Andrew Brons on to discuss the current victories of the BNP in Europe.

I'll link to the page for you to have a good look at, but at one stage the false rhetoric was thick with the usual BS.
Spiel about how all Blacks and Asians aren't British and even how students and tourists under the BNP would not be allowed to enter the country :rolleyes:.

All silly and all put down with the calm and patience that most BNP members seem to have.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1184614595?bctid=25713257001

Cato
06-09-2009, 12:39 PM
The attempts of the left's elites to engineer a communist/socialist utopia have utterly failed and, as anyone with a lick of common sense can predict, the people are getting fed up with it. If the rise of the right and the far-right is on the horizon, no one is to blame but the powermongers of the left, that global cabal of money-grubbing hypocrites.

If anything, the present situation, in many countries in the west, clearly resembles the situation in the Weimar Republic prior to the rise of the NSDAP. That's a bit distressing to me, since I'm no great fan of the Nazis, but the alternative is slavery to a system that respects only one thing: money.

The Lawspeaker
06-09-2009, 03:41 PM
Fascism is not on the march. It has been with us for the past 50 years (the left) and is now slowly collapsing.
And I am sure that all of you remember what Churchill once said: "the anti-fascist of today will be the fascist of tomorrow" - those words were prophetic but let's hope that the fall of this brand of fascism will not be as violent as the collapse of the 1930's kind (I fear that it will be).

What we are seeing now is the left being exposed for the hypocritical fascists (completely contrary to their own ideology united with big business and working against AGAINST the people rather then for them) they are. They are dying- and the extend of their mad wish to hold on to power is clearly shown in the decline of civil rights and the ever expanding tyranny. Not to mention the far left-wing groups that are attacking and intimidating people that disagree with their sick, perverted Weltanschauung in a way eerily similar to how Hitler's stormtroopers would have done it.

finironcross
06-09-2009, 07:12 PM
Nationalsocialism is not fascism. Look further south.

Cato
06-10-2009, 12:19 AM
I've read the political manifesto of the NSDAP, the 25 points, and it struck me as a very sound political platform- the means that the Nazis too to attempt to achieve this political platform is what horrifies me.

The idea of a nation based on ethnicity isn't so terrible; one only need look at an obvious example of a modern, ethnically solid nation: Japan. Or, perhaps to the ire of some, Israel. There's nothing at all wrong with a nation based on a racial majority in my worldview- but I draw a line at mass murder, terror tactics and such. As to minorities living within such a country, they should be afforded the full benefits of citizenship and the protection of that country's laws- much as early Christians, Jews and the like were afforded the protection of Roman law (even despite outbursts against the empire). However, favoring these minorities, catering to their desires above the norms of the majority, is out of the question. Unlike the modern U.S., such a country would be a country ruled by the will of the majority- not a minority.

The leftist scum label anyone who desires ethnic unity within a specific racial group, especially whites, as hatemongers. They also label us uncivilized and utterly unagreeable to living in the world with non-whites.

Groenewolf
06-10-2009, 07:51 AM
The idea of a nation based on ethnicity isn't so terrible; one only need look at an obvious example of a modern, ethnically solid nation: Japan. Or, perhaps to the ire of some, Israel.

Israel is a bad example. From the top of my head one third of the population is Arabic non-Jewish. And they are growing. And the only party (http://www.masada2000.org/kahane.html) that wanted to do something about that was banned.

Phlegethon
06-10-2009, 09:03 AM
I heard today that the BNP is now more popular than Oswald Mosley ever was.

But unlike Griffin Mosley already in the late 1940s was able to look across the channel at the rest of Europe, while the BNP has retreated to a nativist, insular tunnel vision.


Israel is a bad example. From the top of my head one third of the population is Arabic non-Jewish. And they are growing. And the only party (http://www.masada2000.org/kahane.html) that wanted to do something about that was banned.

And the other party now is part of a government coalition. Lieberman is pretty much the reborn Meir Kahane.


I've read the political manifesto of the NSDAP, the 25 points, and it struck me as a very sound political platform

Too bad that when the NSDAP actually got into power the forgot all about the 25 points and sent the main author of that party program, Gottfried Feder, into obscurity.

Tabiti
06-10-2009, 09:09 AM
Being disappointed by your country's current situation, the so called "socialist" parties' promises and immigrants doesn't make you fascist, imo.

Brännvin
06-10-2009, 09:20 AM
Well, if one persists in boiling the pressure cooker i.e. immigration, then one has to be prepared for the consequences.

This underlines my opinion that the current western political correctness, by closing down mainstream political debate on immigration control and multiculturalism among the main parties, actually increases support for the Far Right at least what is happen in Europe, who are perceived as the only ones willing to engage with voters concerns on the issues.

Those who have promoted an authoritarian form of political correctness must share or totally have responsibility for this.

Phlegethon
06-10-2009, 09:24 AM
Financial Times - United Kingdom

European elections: Extremists' success due to mainstream failures

For the first time, the right-wing extremist British National Party (BNP) has garnered two seats in the European elections. The Financial Times writes that its success can be put down to the inability of the mainstream parties to speak to the white working class: "There is no chance that the BNP will win a seat in the Commons, much less a position of national authority. This election is not a milestone on the road to serfdom. But the BNP foments - and relies on - local racial tension. Even a long way from power, the party is a deeply malign influence on British life. Reducing the damage the BNP can do will require the UK's mainstream parties to overcome their inability to reach the white working class. This, in particular, means making sure that the welfare system is believed to be fair. Perceived injustice is the root of the hatred on which the BNP relies." (09/06/2009)

Tabiti
06-10-2009, 09:32 AM
The Financial Times writes that its success can be put down to the inability of the mainstream parties to speak to the white working class
...and defend its interests.

Phlegethon
06-10-2009, 09:42 AM
Even the white non-working class is entitled to be politically represented.

Cato
06-11-2009, 01:22 AM
Israel is a bad example. From the top of my head one third of the population is Arabic non-Jewish. And they are growing. And the only party (http://www.masada2000.org/kahane.html) that wanted to do something about that was banned.

Meir Kahane was gunned down, if I recall. He wanted a Jewish nation that was run according to the Mosaic law, which put him at odds with both the Arabs and the secular Jews that dominate Israel now. His position on non-Jews was that they'd essentially be welcomed as guests, but would have to follow Jewish laws regarding non-Jews in the Jewish homeland. This is namely no idolatry, no sexual perversion, no theft, no blasphemy against Jehovah and the like. They'd be able to benefit form charity, assuming they were poor, and could even celebrate the Jewish rituals if they so chose. They'd be expected to observe the Sabbath, of course, but that seems to be a given. One wonders if the Arabs could live in such a place.

Kahane is regarded as a hero by not just Jews; given their attachment to the warring biblical figures, more than a few Christians think he's a hero too. To me, he's a man who had a mission- a mission that ended when his life was ended. He kind of reminds me of these figures that one reads about here and there in history: a traditionalist who stands up for his specific ancestral legacy, runs into the status-quo and pays the price for it.

lei.talk
06-17-2009, 01:39 PM
I've read the political manifesto of the NSDAP, the 25 points,
and it struck me as a very sound political platform -

the means that the Nazis used to attempt to achieve this political platform is what horrifies me.lacking any suasive appeal
of mutual benefit to the involved persons,
by what methods - other than violence and terror -
could the announced goals be achieved?

eschewing fact-based ratiocinative discourse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagoguery),
their remaining political tools were force and fraud.

The National Socialist Program (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program#The_full_text_of_the_25 _point_program) We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gro%C3%9Fdeutschland) on the basis of the right of self-determination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination) of people.

We demand equality of rights for the German people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans) in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles) and St. Germain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Saint-Germain-en-Laye_(1919)).

We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population.
Only a member of the race (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics) can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew) can be a member of the race.

Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.

The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich), the county or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_system) economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.

We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.

Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since [2 August 1914], be forced immediately to leave the Reich.

All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.

The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all. Consequently we demand:

Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unearned_income). Breaking of rent-slavery.

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

We demand the nationalisation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalization) of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pension).

We demand the creation of a healthy middle class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_class) and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.

We demand substitution of a German common law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law) in place of the Roman Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_law) serving a materialistic world-order.

The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.

We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that: a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race: b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the State to be published. They may not be printed in the German language: c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications, or any influence on them, and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life, and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.

We demand freedom of religion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion) for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples). The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity) without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: The good of the state before the good of the individual.

For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party) promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.

Cato
06-17-2009, 11:46 PM
And I still maintain that the political platform of the NSDAP was good- even taking into account its features that barred non-Germans from being members of the German polis. If seen from a certain point of view, this political manifesto merely recreates, in a modern secular form, the ancient Germanic tribe- even though Hitlerites had an aversion to the culture of the ancient Germanics.

The violence that was used by the Nazis to gain and keep power needs no commentary, but how many other political clubs have used similar tactics to gain and maintain power? Mob violence between political factions once ruled Rome and the Russian revolution needs no comment.

The NSDAP's policies didn't address the individual but the community- this is what I take the socialism in national socialism to mean, the socialism of a single, racially-bonded community. While individual rights did exist, these were secondary to the greater good of the German nation. There was little room in Hitler's Germany for the cult of self that the modern west seems to worship. I certainly don't condone Hitler or what happened as a result of his rise to power, but the political platform of the NSDAP was an outgrowth of the desire for many Germans to be free of what they rightly or wrongly regarded as a corrupt and materialistic system.