Macedonians in Australia growing in population

[Vojnik]

Nearly 100 thousand Macedonians live in Australia!


Perth, 21 June 2012 (MIA) - Nearly 100.000 citizens with Macedonian origin live in Australia, according to a recent census.

The Australian Bureau of Statistics has unveiled initial results from last year's census, which show that 22.485.300 people live in Australia, out of which 93.570 have Macedonian background. According to the 2006 census, there were 83.978 people with Macedonian origin.

According to results, 68.849 stated that they spoke Macedonian in addition to English, while 40.222 said they were born in Macedonia.

In the 2006 census, 67.833 declared that they spoke Macedonian and 40.656 that they were born in Macedonia.

At a meeting with representatives of the Australian Bureau of Statistics, Macedonia's honorary consul Zoran Koseski welcomed the census results, which "are a fresh impulse for the development of the Macedonian community in Australia and the development of bilateral ties with Macedonia.

So there are 93.570 Macedonians in Australia, up from 83.978 in 2006. Great effort.

Now this is not including the Hellenized Macedonians (Grkomani) which there is probably 50,000 of them.


http://www.mia.com.mk/default.aspx?vId=94925163&lId=2&pmId=501

[Methmatician]

You'll never beat Croats though :D

[dralos]

they include albs from monkeydonia too

[Midori]

they include albs from monkeydonia too

Do Albos from Macedonia identify as Macedonian? :confused:

[Turkophagos]

They will identify as Australians in 30-40 years.

[dralos]

Do Albos from Macedonia identify as Macedonian? :confused:
no but on their passport is written cititzen of monkeydonia so they're counted as one

[Midori]

no but on their passport is written cititzen of monkeydonia so they're counted as one

Whatever you say ....

[dralos]

Whatever you say ....
good girl:D

[Midori]

They will identify as Australians in 30-40 years.

True. Most of them will end up marrying non-Macedonians (Fyromians for you) and their kids will identify as Australians only.

[Minesweeper]

What's so good about it?

[Vojnik]

What's so good about it?

Dralos as mentioned in another thread that "Macedonians are a diing bread". This proves that we are not, we are actually growing.

Dralos, in Australia the census papers are sent to every house hold. Anyone is free to declare themselves as they wish. The thing about this new results showing Macedonians have risen in population will benefit the Macedonian community in range of different things, so I doubt the Albanians would of declared themselves as Macedonians.

Pigeon, the Macedonians in Australia are well known to keeping their cultural heritage and language alive. I know some third generation Macedonian Australians that know how to speak Macedonian.

[Vojnik]

You'll never beat Croats though :D

I know a few Croats personally but I don't know how much their are if them in Australia, do you?

[Methmatician]

I know a few Croats personally but I don't know how much their are if them in Australia, do you?

According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, there are 128,046 Australians of Croatian ancestry.

[Duke]

I know a few Croats personally but I don't know how much their are if them in Australia, do you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Australian


we also have our football teams there, etc

[Vojnik]

According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, there are 128,046 Australians of Croatian ancestry.

Wow. That's more then I thought. Are Croats more conentrated in Sydney?

[Duke]

Wow. That's more then I thought. Are Croats more conentrated in Sydney?

I think its Melbourne the most

[Dilberth]

According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, there are 128,046 Australians of Croatian ancestry.

Most of them are only partly Croats,like Eric Bana(1/2) for example.

[Vojnik]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Australian


we also have our football teams there, etc

Ye so do we. Back in the old days there was always riots between football teams because each football team was based on ethnicity. For example Macedonian and Greek teams were always at each other. But it has calmed down a bit now.

[Duke]

Most of them are only partly Croats,like Eric Bana(1/2) for example.

some yes, but not majority lol, we stick to each other down there, and I know because I have relatives.

Most of Croats there are from Dalmatia

[Vojnik]

Most of them are only partly Croats,like Eric Bana(1/2) for example.

Yeah, I have a cousin who is half Macedonian, half Croat.

[Dilberth]

Yeah, I have a cousin who is half Macedonian, half Croat.

Most of them are half Croat and half some other ethnicity.

[Duke]

Most of them are half Croat and half some other ethnicity.

nope, majority of them are actually not

[Vojnik]

Well I will confirm that 85% of Macedonians in Australia stick with their own kind.

[Turkophagos]

Well I will confirm that 85% of Macedonians in Australia stick with their own kind.


Bulgarians?

[Vojnik]

Bulgarians?

No, since we first arrived on Australian shores we have called ourselves Macedonians. And the funny thing is Greeks never had a problem with it here until Macedonia gained independence from Yugoslavia.

[poiuytrewq0987]

According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, there are 128,046 Australians of Croatian ancestry.

That's nothing compared to 400,000 Croatians who live in the USA...

[iNird]

no but on their passport is written cititzen of monkeydonia so they're counted as one

There are 1,826 Albanian speakers from FYROM. You can check for yourself:

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/census/


Dralos as mentioned in another thread that "Macedonians are a diing bread". This proves that we are not, we are actually growing.


There are 68,848 Macedonian speakers in Australia. Out of these 68,848 speakers, only 891 identified as Muslim and 1,186 idenfitied with no religion. I think it's safe to assume that Albanians are not included in this amount. As for their birthrates, the census stated the following:


Most Macedonian-speaking families have two children (43.3%) or one child (42.2%). This is similar to the general population, in which most families have one child (41.0%).

Showing their birthrates isn't out of the norm.

Also I'm not sure how they arrived to their "100k" figure. It seems the census is based on speakers. 28,654 out of 68,848 Macedonian speakers are born in Australia. Is MINA they claiming the are English speakers of Macedonian ethnicity?

[iNird]

Also I'm not sure how they arrived to their "100k" figure. It seems the census is based on speakers. 28,654 out of 68,848 Macedonian speakers are born in Australia. Is MINA they claiming the are English speakers of Macedonian ethnicity?

Since Vojnik is only good at copying and pasting articles from Makoretardedtruth.org, I did a lil research and found my answer. :D

These stats are based on ancestry for Macedonians:

Both Parents Born Oversea: 69,432
Father Only Born Oversea: 7,501
Mother Only Born Oversea: 3,462
Both Parents Born in Australia: 10,985
Birthplace Not Stated: 2,191
Total: 93,571

[Crn Volk]

Since Vojnik is only good at copying and pasting articles from Makoretardedtruth.org, I did a lil research and found my answer. :D

These stats are based on ancestry for Macedonians:

Both Parents Born Oversea: 69,432
Father Only Born Oversea: 7,501
Mother Only Born Oversea: 3,462
Both Parents Born in Australia: 10,985
Birthplace Not Stated: 2,191
Total: 93,571

That's right 93,571 Australians have Macedonian ancestry...that's nearly 100,000 people. There are only 11,000 odd Albanians in Australia, and 4,870 Bulgarians.

[Incal]

That's nothing compared to 400,000 Croatians who live in the USA...

Or 380,000 in Chile.

[Bugarash]

They are growing because every year at least few thousand of macedonians emigrate from Macedonia overseas...

[iNird]

They are growing because every year at least few thousand of macedonians emigrate from Macedonia overseas...

Nah not nearly that high.

Number of Macedonian Speakers that moved to Australia (according to http://www.sbs.com.au/news/census/)

2000- 369
2001 - 388
2002 - 255
2003 - 274
2004 - 202
2005 - 256
2006 - 300
2007 - 295
2008- 245
2009 - 269
2010 - 228

It appears the amount the amount of Macedonians immigrating to Australia is declining. I think most Macedonian immigrants move to European countries these days.....

Also it appears Macedonians earn on average less than the Australians on a whole but as a household they appear to be comparable to other Australians as a whole. Most Macedonian-speaking households (13.3%) earned $1,500-$1,999 weekly ($78,000-$103,999 annually), that's like 66,000 to 88,000 euros. Crazy considering average salary is 200-300 euros in Macedonia.....

[Vojnik]

They are growing because every year at least few thousand of macedonians emigrate from Macedonia overseas...

No, I would say that we have a high birth rate here. From what I see, the average amount of children per Macedonian family is 3. I have even seen many Macedonian families with 4 and even 5 children. I cant wait for the next census to see another growth in population.

[iNird]

No, I would say that we have a high birth rate here. From what I see, the average amount of children per Macedonian family is 3. I have even seen many Macedonian families with 4 and even 5 children. I cant wait for the next census to see another growth in population.

No statistics say otherwise.

Macedonians with one Child in Family - 42.2%
Macedonians with two Children in Family - 43.3%
Macedonians with three Children in Family - 12.7%
Macedonians with four Children in Family - 1.6%
Macedonians with five Children in Family - .2%

:coffee:

[Vojnik]

Where is the source for that? I was only going by how I saw things.

[iNird]

Where is the source for that? I was only going by how I saw things.

You post the MINA article without verifying the primary source of the data

:P

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/census/

[Crn Volk]

Nah not nearly that high.

Number of Macedonian Speakers that moved to Australia (according to http://www.sbs.com.au/news/census/)

2000- 369
2001 - 388
2002 - 255
2003 - 274
2004 - 202
2005 - 256
2006 - 300
2007 - 295
2008- 245
2009 - 269
2010 - 228

It appears the amount the amount of Macedonians immigrating to Australia is declining. I think most Macedonian immigrants move to European countries these days.....

Also it appears Macedonians earn on average less than the Australians on a whole but as a household they appear to be comparable to other Australians as a whole. Most Macedonian-speaking households (13.3%) earned $1,500-$1,999 weekly ($78,000-$103,999 annually), that's like 66,000 to 88,000 euros. Crazy considering average salary is 200-300 euros in Macedonia.....


It's also much harder for Europeans in general to migrate to Australia. Australia favours Asians (including South Asians/Indians) these days...they speak English, are usually skilled and are Australia's closest neighbours.

[Crn Volk]

They are growing because every year at least few thousand of macedonians emigrate from Macedonia overseas...

The number of Macedonians is growing because more Macedonians are declaring as such, aswell as more births. I would also add that the number of mixed marriages between Macedonians and non-Macedonians is also growing, but unavoidable in a multi-cultural country like Australia.

[Bugarash]

Nah not nearly that high.

Number of Macedonian Speakers that moved to Australia (according to http://www.sbs.com.au/news/census/)

2000- 369
2001 - 388
2002 - 255
2003 - 274
2004 - 202
2005 - 256
2006 - 300
2007 - 295
2008- 245
2009 - 269
2010 - 228

It appears the amount the amount of Macedonians immigrating to Australia is declining. I think most Macedonian immigrants move to European countries these days.....

Also it appears Macedonians earn on average less than the Australians on a whole but as a household they appear to be comparable to other Australians as a whole. Most Macedonian-speaking households (13.3%) earned $1,500-$1,999 weekly ($78,000-$103,999 annually), that's like 66,000 to 88,000 euros. Crazy considering average salary is 200-300 euros in Macedonia.....

Yeah,I mixed it up by adding Canada

according to the canadian bureau for citizenship:

in 2011-186 macedonian citizens got a canadian emigration visa.
2003-635

so the trend of macedonians emigrating overseas is decreasing in favor of Europe...

No surprise,these days it is very easy for a macedonian to emigrate somehwere in Europe...all he needs is to get bulgarian citizenship.

[Crn Volk]

Yeah,I mixed it up by adding Canada

according to the canadian bureau for citizenship:

in 2011-186 macedonian citizens got a canadian emigration visa.
2003-635

so the trend of macedonians emigrating overseas is decreasing in favor of Europe...

No surprise,these days it is very easy for a macedonian to emigrate somehwere in Europe...all he needs is to get bulgarian citizenship.

And you are proud of Bulgarian citizens emigrating?

[Anarch]

*scratches head*

We seriously need to start deporting people... and importing more Poms and Irish :p

[Gospodine]

Most of them are only partly Croats,like Eric Bana(1/2) for example.

No they're not. Most of them are actually recent arrivals from the break-up of Yugoslavia.

[Gospodine]

South Slavs have been in Australia since time immemorial. Way before Italians, Greeks and other wogs showed up.

Croatian sailors from Dalmatia were the first to arrive.

In 1875 a Croatian ship from Dubrovnik wrecked off the northern coast of Western Australia on it's way to Hong Kong.
Two survivors, Miho Bacic and Ivan Juric, were actually rescued by Aborigines.
http://www.gould.com.au/Wreck-of-the-Barque-Stefano-p/hes145.htm

The Croats have been pretty influential. I mean half of the Australian National Football team (or "Soccer" here) in the 2006 World Cup was Croat.

There's countless Australian-Croatian sportsmen, politicans, actors and journalists.

I've personally known a ton of Australians of Croatian descent who's ancestors came here in the early 1900's, mostly working as farmers, miners, manual labourers or something to do with fishing/maritime work.

Macedonians also arrived here in the late 1800's but they came in larger numbers after Ioannis Metaxas (Aegean Macedonians) came to power in Greece and after WWII.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian-Australian_People%27s_League

And then there's people who left during Yugoslavia as well.

For instance my family first lived here with another Bosnian family who had emigrated here in the 1980's.

Of course immigration from the Balkans exploded after the Yugoslav wars, but there have been South Slavs in every major city in Australia since long before that.

[kabeiros]

The Croats have been pretty influential. I mean half of the Australian National Football team (or "Soccer" here) in the 2006 World Cup was Croat.

There's countless Australian-Croatian sportsmen, politicans, actors and journalists.

Yes, indeed. They even think about changing the name of the country. They will call it Croaustralia

[Gospodine]

and importing more Poms

If they can stop fucking crying about getting beaten in every sporting event, then yes.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Nearly 100 thousand Macedonians live in Australia!



So there are 93.570 Macedonians in Australia, up from 83.978 in 2006. Great effort.

Now this is not including the Hellenized Macedonians (Grkomani) which there is probably 50,000 of them.


http://www.mia.com.mk/default.aspx?vId=94925163&lId=2&pmId=501

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...

The article does not mention how do you increase your numbers. May I guess???

[Crn Volk]

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...

The article does not mention how do you increase your numbers. May I guess???

More Aegean Macedonians returning to their ethnic Macedonian roots :thumb001:

[Crn Volk]

*scratches head*

We seriously need to start deporting people... and importing more Poms and Irish :p

Yeah and leave the UK to the Pakis and negroes....:coffee:

[Anarch]

If they can stop fucking crying about getting beaten in every sporting event, then yes.

No one's perfect :p Besides, they'll be assimilated into the victors and then they'll be tolerable :D


Yeah and leave the UK to the Pakis and negroes....:coffee:

We can retake it ;)

[Vojnik]

Anarch, let's face it mate, without us 'wogs' Australia would be a country full of pubs and fish'n'chip shops. The economy would not be as good as it is now if us Southern Europeans never arrived. We have been a great influence on Australian society. The ones that should be deported are the Middle Easterners.

[iNird]

Anarch, let's face it mate, without us 'wogs' Australia would be a country full of pubs and fish'n'chip shops. The economy would not be as good as it is now if us Southern Europeans never arrived. We have been a great influence on Australian society. The ones that should be deported are the Middle Easterners.

I agree with the Aussie. You should go back to your shithole villages.

:coffee:

[Vojnik]

I think the best option would be to bring back the white Australia policy which was in force before the 70's.

But in all honesty, if Southern Euros were to leave, Australia would become a shithole with a low population.

[iNird]

I think the best option would be to bring back the white Australia policy which was in force before the 70's.

But in all honesty, if Southern Euros were to leave, Australia would become a shithole with a low population.

Wogs ain't white. Atleast not anglo-white. You would be deported as well.

:coffee:

[Vojnik]

iNird, I will go back to my little shitty village in Bitola if you go back to yours. :D

[Vojnik]

Wogs ain't white. Atleast not anglo-white. You would be deported as well.

:coffee:

No, the bulk of Macedonian immigrants came during the 60's, when the white Australia policy was still the law (and that's including my family). So us wogs, Macedonians, Croats, Greeks and Italians were seen as white Europeans by by the Anglo Aussies. ;)

[iNird]

iNird, I will go back to my little shitty village in Bitola if you go back to yours. :D

Fact is you don't want me to go back. We are taking over the country as it is.

:coffee:


No, the bulk of Macedonian immigrants came during the 60's, when the white Australia policy was still the law (and that's including my family). So us wogs, Macedonians, Croats, Greeks and Italians were seen as white Europeans by by the Anglo Aussies.

You are wogs. You might be "white" compared to a Paki but you're still off-white.

Also:


*scratches head*

We seriously need to start deporting people... and importing more Poms and Irish :p

I ain't discriminating you Wog-brah blame the "shrimp off the barbie" eating cant dance for shit Aussies.

:(

[Vojnik]

Fact is you don't want me to go back. We are taking over the country as it is.

:coffee:



You are wogs. You might be "white" compared to a Paki but you're still off-white.

Also:

If you respect Macedonia and Macedonians, I honestly don't mind if you lived I Macedonia.

And I suppose you are calling Albanians (who are also considered as wogs here) off white?

[Novi Pazar]

*scratches head*

We seriously need to start deporting people... and importing more Poms and Irish :p

G'day mate, how ya doin? l somewhat agree with you. I do have a problem with our government immigranting people into the country (big volumes) in a short period of time. Sorry to say to my southern european brothers/friends but Australia is an Anglo-Saxon nation, it would be sad to see the Anglo-Saxon Aussies drop under 50%. I've said to my close Anglo mates that we need to bring over more people from the Isles or North America, but they say that is also bad because they are completely multi-cultural too. I think it has to do with our declining birth rates and the aging baby boomers for our government to be bringing in so many people in a short period of time.

Why the freaken rush, take it a bit easier.

PS In my opinion WE NEED TO BRING IN PEOPLES THAT WILL EASILY ASSIMILATE OR/ARE COMPATIBLE TO THE AUSTRALIAN LIFE !

[iNird]

If you respect Macedonia and Macedonians, I honestly don't mind if you lived I Macedonia.

And I suppose you are calling Albanians (who are also considered as wogs here) off white?

You live in Australia, it doesn't really matter what you think. Nor are Albanians in Macedonians some immigrant group like you are in Australia. SO........

Yes, some of them are woggish.

[Vojnik]

You live in Australia, it doesn't really matter what you think. Nor are Albanians in Macedonians some immigrant group like you are in Australia. SO........

Yes, some of them are woggish.

If it didn't matter then why do you care how I feel about Albanians 'taking over'?

In Australia, it dos'nt matter if you look swarthy (waggish) or not. If your ancestors come from a European country other then North and West euro countries, then you are considered a wog.

[Crn Volk]

You live in Australia, it doesn't really matter what you think. Nor are Albanians in Macedonians some immigrant group like you are in Australia. SO........

Yes, some of them are woggish.

iNird you live in the US and have no right to talk about Australia or Macedonia.:bored:

[iNird]

iNird you live in the US and have no right to talk about Australia or Macedonia.:bored:

I didn't say he has no right to talk just that his thoughts don't matter.

[Crn Volk]

I didn't say he has no right to talk just that his thoughts don't matter.

Oh OK....fixed


iNird you live in the US and your thoughts don't matter about Australia or Macedonia.

[iNird]

Oh OK....fixed

I never said my opinion mattered.

:bored:

[Anarch]

I think the best option would be to bring back the white Australia policy which was in force before the 70's.

But in all honesty, if Southern Euros were to leave, Australia would become a shithole with a low population.

Bullshit. We'd just open the gates to more white Poms and Irish. I would miss my Turkish kebabs and Greek souvlaki terribly, that's true, and I'd miss cute Italian girls, which would be a great tragedy.


Anarch, let's face it mate, without us 'wogs' Australia would be a country full of pubs and fish'n'chip shops. The economy would not be as good as it is now if us Southern Europeans never arrived.

... The economy has very little to do with South Europeans and more to do with Paul Keating's economic reforms :p 'I came, I saw, I concreted' is no longer a claim to fame ;)


We have been a great influence on Australian society. The ones that should be deported are the Middle Easterners.

I said 'we should start deporting people', I didn't specify which people :-) But yes, essentially you're correct. Plus the Asians of both the slanty eyed and curried variety. I do support an ethnically proportionate immigration policy.

[Anarch]

G'day mate, how ya doin? l somewhat agree with you. I do have a problem with our government immigranting people into the country (big volumes) in a short period of time. Sorry to say to my southern european brothers/friends but Australia is an Anglo-Saxon nation, it would be sad to see the Anglo-Saxon Aussies drop under 50%. I've said to my close Anglo mates that we need to bring over more people from the Isles or North America, but they say that is also bad because they are completely multi-cultural too. I think it has to do with our declining birth rates and the aging baby boomers for our government to be bringing in so many people in a short period of time.

Why the freaken rush, take it a bit easier.

PS In my opinion WE NEED TO BRING IN PEOPLES THAT WILL EASILY ASSIMILATE OR/ARE COMPATIBLE TO THE AUSTRALIAN LIFE !

No, the government simply wants to fragment the population so we're distracted while the government expands its own power. I don't mind Australia's European wogs, it adds just the right amount of 'multicultural' flavour. Which means: we've got Serbs, Greeks, Croats and Italians, we don't need Asians to liven up Australia's culture. Unfortunately, the Liberal Party is too stupid to pick up on the subtext, and tends to interpret that along the lines of 'everyone should start assimilating. Therefore, I'll flat out say we do not want any non-European immigrants. Besides that, as much as I love Euro-wog cuisine, you can't completely assimilate Italians, Greeks and Balkanoids. Sure, you can turn them into good patriots who go for our soccer team rather than their own (though there's no distinction if you're Croatian, ha), but the fish and chips, beer drinking, commodore driving Guy Fawkes night Anglo-Irish culture the government openly hates is Australia. To reinforce that culture other than somehow making Anglo-Aussies breed would simply require upping Australia's immigration from Britain and Ireland. Within one generation you can't tell the difference. Not entirely the same as Euro wogs.

If we really wanted to, we could introduce an ethnically proportionate immigration policy derived from the results of the most recent census. Keeping the English brownies out would be easy enough - just require those who're applying for entry to demonstrate three generations back that they're from the same nationality as a proportion of Australia's population. For example: 70% of Australia is Anglo-Irish. A black 'Briton' wants entry, but he can't demonstrate three generations back that his family was English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh or any combination of the four. Entry is refused :p Total volume of immigrants could be capped at a percentage of Australia's population (1%, or roughly 250,000 would be okay) and the source countries could be dictated by Australia's internal demographics. Technically it's not racist, just supportive of Australia's social stability and cohesion ;) At least, until we start mass deportation of criminals and their dependents. That should gut the Lebanese population...

[Crn Volk]

The latest census shows non-Europeans are a rapidly growing population in Australia. Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism are the fastest growing religions in Australia. You just have to walk down the street of any major city in Australia to see Australia is fastly becoming Asianised. You are right Anarch, there needs to be more of a balance. Australia is not an Asian country, despite what our govt advertises to it's Asian neighbours. It is an Island continent founded by Europeans, and should remain as such.

[Anarch]

The latest census shows non-Europeans are a rapidly growing population in Australia. Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism are the fastest growing religions in Australia. You just have to walk down the street of any major city in Australia to see Australia is fastly becoming Asianised. You are right Anarch, there needs to be more of a balance. Australia is not an Asian country, despite what our govt advertises to it's Asian neighbours. It is an Island continent founded by Europeans, and should remain as such.

In all fairness, if we only had one Buddhist, and he imported his wife, a son and daughter, that would be a truly explosive growth rate ;)

But yes. This country was founded by and for white Britons. We happily let the Greeks and Italians and you strange balkanoid folk (;)) come in and set up shop, but that's entirely different to the handover/takeover the government currently has going with people utterly foreign to our civilisation and way of life.


In Australia, it dos'nt matter if you look swarthy (waggish) or not. If your ancestors come from a European country other then North and West euro countries, then you are considered a wog.


Not necessarily the case. I've met more than a few Italians that look as white as any pom, and only found out they were Italians much later. Slightly more relevant to the topic, I knew a Bosnian girl in primary school - she was blonde, green eyes, nordic looking and had freckles, spoke perfect English. In short, she looked Australian and so did her two older brothers. It was only several years later I figured out her family came from roughly the same area as Greece, which made no sense, because she sure as hell didn't look Greek :p

[Gospodine]

'I came, I saw, I concreted' is no longer a claim to fame ;)

Gold.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd257/treyofthedead/Tom_Cruise_crazy_laugh.gif


Wogs ain't white. Atleast not anglo-white. You would be deported as well.

:coffee:

The Albanian is lecturing us on wogs?

[Gospodine]

No, the government simply wants to fragment the population so we're distracted while the government expands its own power.

/thread

This is true of Western society as a whole.

[Sultan Suleiman]

According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, there are 128,046 Australians of Croatian ancestry.

How many Bosniaks are there in the Dingoo lands besides you two?

[Novi Pazar]

No, the government simply wants to fragment the population so we're distracted while the government expands its own power. I don't mind Australia's European wogs, it adds just the right amount of 'multicultural' flavour. Which means: we've got Serbs, Greeks, Croats and Italians, we don't need Asians to liven up Australia's culture. Unfortunately, the Liberal Party is too stupid to pick up on the subtext, and tends to interpret that along the lines of 'everyone should start assimilating. Therefore, I'll flat out say we do not want any non-European immigrants. Besides that, as much as I love Euro-wog cuisine, you can't completely assimilate Italians, Greeks and Balkanoids. Sure, you can turn them into good patriots who go for our soccer team rather than their own (though there's no distinction if you're Croatian, ha), but the fish and chips, beer drinking, commodore driving Guy Fawkes night Anglo-Irish culture the government openly hates is Australia. To reinforce that culture other than somehow making Anglo-Aussies breed would simply require upping Australia's immigration from Britain and Ireland. Within one generation you can't tell the difference. Not entirely the same as Euro wogs.

If we really wanted to, we could introduce an ethnically proportionate immigration policy derived from the results of the most recent census. Keeping the English brownies out would be easy enough - just require those who're applying for entry to demonstrate three generations back that they're from the same nationality as a proportion of Australia's population. For example: 70% of Australia is Anglo-Irish. A black 'Briton' wants entry, but he can't demonstrate three generations back that his family was English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh or any combination of the four. Entry is refused :p Total volume of immigrants could be capped at a percentage of Australia's population (1%, or roughly 250,000 would be okay) and the source countries could be dictated by Australia's internal demographics. Technically it's not racist, just supportive of Australia's social stability and cohesion ;) At least, until we start mass deportation of criminals and their dependents. That should gut the Lebanese population...

Anarch, l whole heartedly agree with you mate, god bless ya! :)

I was driving on the weekend out to Yea/Seymour and it was a blessing to see the old Bakeries and shops that reminded me of our Aussie way of life back in the early to mid 80's, eating some of the traditional Aussie cakes and foods nearly brought a tear to my eye, its almost as thou the country/outback is the last Aussie hope, seriously. Your right man, our government hates the true blues....simply put....they are prostitutes who will do anything, even kill their own culture for a buck. We've F'ing allowed the world to buy us out, what is MADE IN AUSTRALIA, F'ing ZERO......just as l advocate for my ancestral serbian mob, we need to flush ALL THE RATS out of power with their corporation money and bring back the people to rule our country :)

[Crn Volk]

For the Aussies here;

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[Crn Volk]

Official Launch of New Report in Canberra Confirms Macedonian Diaspora Matters to Australia and to Macedonia


16 August, 2012 - Canberra, Australia - Over 50 prominent persons from the Australian Government, from all sides of the Australian Parliament, the Macedonian Parliament, the diplomatic corps, universities, the media and the Macedonian community attended the official launch of the Australian Research Council Linkage Project report on 'Diasporas and Links with the Homeland' yesterday in the Australian Parliament. Click HERE (http://www.deakin.edu.au/arts-ed/ccg/publication/images/arc-macedonian-diaspora.pdf) to download the report.



The keynote speakers at the official launch were Australia's Minister for Workplace Relations Bill Shorten MP and the Parliamentary Secretary for Pacific Island Affairs and for Foreign Affairs, Mr. Richard Marles MP who represented the Foreign Minister Senator Bob Carr who was scheduled to speak at the event.



The three-year research project explored the broad dimensions of ties between the Italian, Macedonian, Tongan and the Vietnamese communities and their homelands. The research focused on trends in citizenship, identity and language use, personal ties and frequency of visits to the homeland, political and communal ties, caregiving, remittances and philanthropy and business and professional ties. The research makes important policy and practice recommendations relating to the role of diasporas in Australian bilateral relations.



Minister Shorten noted that "We welcome and acknowledge our great fortune that so many sons and daughters of foreign soil have chosen Australia to be their home. Because we have this diversity, we are a great country. Diasporas have strengthened and enlivened Australian society and its workplaces to better meet the challenges the 21st century".



Parliamentary Secretary Marles stated that "the 100,000 strong Macedonian community has enriched Australia since the 1880's and is the bedrock of the relationship with Macedonia". This builds on the statement issued by Australia's Foreign Minister Bob Carr on 25 July 2012 in which he kindly praised the contribution of the Australian Macedonian community to Australia's warm and growing relationship with the Republic of Macedonia.



Professor Danny Ben-Moshe from Deakin University observed that "The research showed that each of the diasporas have made and have the potential to make a positive and significant contribution towards the development of Australia and to advancing the bilateral relations their homelands".



Co-author of the report on the 'The Macedonian Diaspora in Australia: Current and Potential Links with the Homeland' Mr. Ordan Andreevski from the United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) noted that "given the important current and potential role the Macedonian diaspora, both the Australian and the Macedonian Government need to co-invest in high impact programs and projects in collaboration with the diaspora which will deliver better economic, social, cultural and public policy outcomes in both countries".



Andreevski used his speech to "call upon the Australian Government and the Australian Parliament to recognise the Republic of Macedonia under its legitimate constitutional name without delay and to focus on pressing issues, policies and projects that will bring substantial benefits to both countries".



The research was supported with funding from the Australian Research Council Linkage Grant and a range of other Australian organisations. The Macedonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs gave a grant of AUD$30,000 towards the project. UMD Australia provided in-kind support at each stage of the three-year project.



"UMD Australia will partner with key stakeholders to build on the research report. We will focus on impact oriented activities that will further strengthen, deepen and widen the links between Australia and Macedonia and that will elevate the status, influence and value adding capabilities of the Macedonian community in Australian society" stated Andreevski.



The official launch was attended by all sides of Australian politics including Stephen Jones MP, Luke Simpkins MP, Harry Jenkins MP, Phillip Ruddock MP, Sharon Bird MP, Laurie Ferguson MP and by Senator Richard Di Natale from the Australian Greens. Dozens of other members both houses in the Australian Parliament sent their apologies as they were taking part in unavoidable official business associated with the re-commencement of Australian Parliament after the six week winter break.



The Ambassador of Italy in Australia was in attendance as were diplomats from the Macedonian, Dutch, Indian, Turkish and other embassies. Miki Dodevski, member of the Macedonian Assembly for Australia, New Zealand and Asia was also present.


UMD Australia was represented by Treasurer Robert Pasquale who flew in from Perth, by UMD Regional Representative for Sydney/NSW Tony Joseski and by UMD Regional Representative for Canberra and the ACT Martin Nikoloski. Andrew Ananievski, former International Policy and Diplomacy Fellow at UMD Headquarters in Washington, D.C. was also in attendance as were members of the Macedonian community from Canberra and Queanbeyan.

[Methmatician]

How many Bosniaks are there in the Dingoo lands besides you two?

Only 18 000.