We're all related...to some extent.

[The Exiled King]

I have read that you have to be at least a 50th cousin to anybody else on earth or less no matter what. It doesn't matter how isolated or remote a tribe or ethnic group is.

In your own countries where you live your probably around at least a 10th cousin or less to everybody else.

Now of course this is genealogical, it's not necessarily genetically detectable in terms of what 23andMe and FTDNA are doing right now. In a sense it is genetically detectable in the grand schemes of our genomes but at the 700,00 - 1,000,000 SNP level it's not.

EDIT: (Also all humans living today have a common ancestor that lived 2,000-4,000 years ago so it's pretty recent IMO.) This seems to be very debatable, it's just what it says in the video. I am questioning this as well.


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EDIT: Yes, I know the video is not the best but it's the best that I have seen in terms of getting the basic point across. There are so many other complicated pathways and scientific studies out there but one thing if for certain and thats about everybody else on earth being everyone else's 50th cousin or less.
Discuss.

[007]

Also all humans living today have a common ancestor that lived 2,000-4,000 years ago so it's pretty recent IMO.




That sounds far too recent to me

[Furnace]

Also all humans living today have a common ancestor that lived 2,000-4,000 years ago so it's pretty recent IMO.



4,000 years ago...? You had all sorts of different civilizations at that time, egyptians, sumerians.. etc. Something more plausible would be 30,000 - 40,000 years. And we know very little what happened before the last ice age, except a few man-made structures like Göbekli Tepe (10k BC) and some cave paintings that go back even further.

[The Exiled King]

4,000 years ago...? You had all sorts of different civilizations at that time, egyptians, sumerians.. etc. Something more plausible would be 30,000 - 40,000 years. And we know very little what happened before the last ice age, except a few man-made structures like Göbekli Tepe (10k BC) and some cave paintings that go back even further.

I don't know. Thats what the scientific study found that was in the video.

[The Exiled King]

It's definitely not 100% accurate it's just from one scientific study. I guess what their trying to say is this person who lived 2,000 - 4,000 years ago in Taiwan is the MRCA of all humans living today. But I am assuming they have not found other remains to test yet so this is the best one even though it seems so recent.

[Onur]

This sounds stupid to me. First of all, you don't need one quintillion different people for 64 generations because they can reproduce among themselves because they can exchange partners and women gives birth from different men. Everything depends on the number of women and then a single man can create as many as different family trees depending on the number of women. So this math is wrong.

i think 2000-4000 years for the common ancestor is also wrong.

[arcticwolf]

I knew it! Inbreeding explains a lot of questions I wanted to ask other posters. Now I don't have to! :D

[The Exiled King]

This sounds stupid to me. First of all, you don't need one quintillion different people for 64 generations because they can reproduce among themselves because they can exchange partners and women gives birth from different men. Everything depends on the number of women and then a single man can create as many as different family trees depending on the number of women.

So this math is wrong. 2000-4000 years for the common ancestor is also wrong either.

You forgot that you can have multiple children with one partner.

[Balmung]

I believe that shit to an extent.

When i went to England, i saw a guy who looked very strikingly similiar to myself and it was like the fucking Twilight zone.

Saw another guy who looked like me in a walmart in Virginia, fucking Twilight zone again. Then there was the time in elementary, Ms Federline....or was it Freidline?...looked like my mom, freaky shit bro.

[gossimer]

Also all humans living today have a common ancestor that lived 2,000-4,000 years ago so it's pretty recent IMO.




This is wrong. It cannot possibly be right. That's way too recent. 2,000-4,000 years ago is not even a long time even for human history.. Even if it was 10,000 years ago that's still too recent for the claim to be true.

That inaccuracy brings the entire video and study into serious question. If a study is going to outright lie for some agenda it should at least to attempt to do a good job of it.

[Supreme American]

We're all supposedly related to lizards, so I think I'm going to select a nice big one off a tree in Florida once I get there and marry him! OO la la!

Here's a stud I photographed in Dunedin, Florida in 2009. What do you think? Looks like he can hold the tree down! I'll never forget him - I met him one Saturday afternoon at the corner of Main Street and Overcash Drive.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2a9xzrt.png

[Supreme American]

I believe that shit to an extent.

When i went to England, i saw a guy who looked very strikingly similiar to myself and it was like the fucking Twilight zone.

Saw another guy who looked like me in a walmart in Virginia, fucking Twilight zone again. Then there was the time in elementary, Ms Federline....or was it Freidline?...looked like my mom, freaky shit bro.

I am told that I have a clone in western Kansas.

[Contra Mundum]

I have read that you have to be at least a 50th cousin to anybody else on earth or less no matter what. It doesn't matter how isolated or remote a tribe or ethnic group is.

In your own countries where you live your probably around at least a 10th cousin or less to everybody else.

Now of course this is genealogical, it's not necessarily genetically detectable in terms of what 23andMe and FTDNA are doing right now. In a sense it is genetically detectable in the grand schemes of our genomes but at the 700,00 - 1,000,000 SNP level it's not.

Also all humans living today have a common ancestor that lived 2,000-4,000 years ago so it's pretty recent IMO.




http://www.x-entertainment.com/pics/kool1.jpg

[SilverKnight]

No one really owns anything, we do share atoms with each other and the rest of nature as well. One thing we do own for sure is our eternal essence, the soul.

[Supreme American]

No one really owns anything, we do share atoms with each other and the rest of nature as well. One thing we do own for sure is our eternal essence, the soul.

Huh?

If no one really owns anything, can I take your car and your flat screen TV? And what's in your fridge?

[The Exiled King]

Huh?

If no one really owns anything, can I take your car and your flat screen TV? And what's in your fridge?

I think you took that too literally IMO. It's more of an abstract thought. It is true, however.

[GeistFaust]

No one really owns anything, we do share atoms with each other and the rest of nature as well. One thing we do own for sure is our eternal essence, the soul.


This is pure and utter bullshit nonsense, which is pushed by every low life leftist who wants to control people's minds and livelihood. I don't know if you really know what you are saying, but "I" am a unique I, who is metaphysically determined as independently myself. Therefore I own and possess myself, but in owning myself I have a responsibility, which is moral, to the well being of myself and others.

This is reenforced by social norms and standards, which implement the duty and ought of what "I" must do, although definitely that might be a bit too restrictive for the "I" itself. Also just because we share atoms does not make us technically related with ourselves and nature. This pure organic perspective is not only blinding, but it is devoid of every form of mental capacity and concrete cognitive thought, and is thus merely a thought with a architectonic backdrop, which depicts life as this jello like substance.


Its absolutely resentful and degenerating for those higher, more developed, and more structured evolutionary forms in life, who have acquired such forms due to their own necessary adaptions to the pressures and demands of the environment. Its also biological and genetic in regards to the actual reactions to the pressures and demands of the environment, so its not necessarily as random as we might think, although fundamentally its teleology is firmly rooted in a certain cryptic determinism.


Anyways the whole idea of this eternal essence called the soul holds no value in space-time, nor does it hold any merit to our genetic/biological orientation "limited" and "producing" our own physical apparatus. Its all a bunch of nonsensical gibberish sensibility with absolutely no application or substance within space and time, and is thus merely either inaccessible to thought and action or is merely a chimeric illusion of the mind's instinct due to a fallacious perception of the sensory world.


Anyways on topic I am not surprised that in certain regions of the world that people are all connected in some minor way going back some time, and even within the same continent, but I highly doubt this means anything of relevance. Generally speaking the majority of us are quite distant genetically, and 1 or 2 close relationships going back thousands, tens of thousands, and 100 of thousands of years ago contains very little relevance.


We are all very different genetically, and have been for quite some time, until the leftist thought that they could play God and intervene with the natural order in order to usurp tradition and culture for their own foul and maligned purposes.

[Osprey]

that they could play God

Off topic, but don't you think a higher species has been doing exactly this with us?

[GeistFaust]

Its probable, but behind conspiracy theories and speculation I don't know what kind of concrete proof we have to warrant it.

I definitely believe we are always constantly being reconfigured and altered by the most powerful elements in society to some extent or another.

Their ideas and agendas not only shape the structures and societies through which we interact with, but the very organic nature of our own beings.

[Osprey]

Its probable, but behind conspiracy theories and speculation I don't know what kind of concrete proof we have to warrant it.

I definitely believe we are always constantly being reconfigured and altered by the most powerful elements in society to some extent or another.

Their ideas and agendas not only shape the structures and societies through which we interact with, but the very organic nature of our own beings.

There is a hierarchy, in which our conspiracy theory targets constitute just the lower branches.

[Balmung]

I am told that I have a clone in western Kansas.

Do you look WASPY?

Because then it'd be understandable. My mom & i do, so its pretty easy to find other Americans who look similar.

[SilverKnight]

I think you took that too literally IMO. It's more of an abstract thought. It is true, however.

Exactly what I was going to respond back, some people take things too literal at times.

Yes people own fridges, a car, a home, but not forever. These material things will eventually be passed down to another person, be destroyed, abandoned and be retaken by nature and once more return back to the endless cycle..

The same with our bodies, no different. It's just a vessel that carries our soul, which technically we 'borrow' in order to fulfill what ever mission/ objectives we have in our present lives and advance spiritually into the next ( well spiritually, off course if you believe in it)...

[Pallantides]

In your own countries where you live your probably around at least a 10th cousin or less to everybody else.

It feels weird thinking about it that some of my friends might actually be 3d-4th cousins with me, one of my best friends from childhood is most likely related to me, as both his parents and my mother come from the same village and our ancestors have most likely intermarried in the past.