classify Abe Hiroshi

[Finlandeutsch]

http://wiki.d-addicts.com/static/images/thumb/c/c9/Abe_Hiroshi.jpg/180px-Abe_Hiroshi.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7844/tvgoonejpaberz5.jpg
http://c.yai.bz/assets/res/theme/abehiroshi/03.jpg
http://www.celebrityring.info/images/pictures/Hiroshi-Abe-3.jpg
http://www.doramaniacs.com/imagens/thumb/imagens/artistas/abe_hiroshi6.jpg

I just think he's so gorgeous. What subrace does he belong to?

[dralos]

race traitor

[Osprey]

(Fucker of Japanese women)oid.

[Finlandeutsch]

Immature immature immature. Your attitude is really bad. You get so upset that you can't think straight and all you can do is hurl insults around. Pathetic...

[Talvi]

I would think that he has a lot of Ainu/Jomon blood.

[Finlandeutsch]

I would think that he has a lot of Ainu/Jomon blood.

He does.

[Talvi]

He does.

Has he made an official statement about it? That would be rare.

[Finlandeutsch]

Has he made an official statement about it? That would be rare.

I'll look into it

[Osprey]

Immature immature immature. Your attitude is really bad. You get so upset that you can't think straight and all you can do is hurl insults around. Pathetic...

So, if he likes women of his own race, that's an ''insult''.?

[Stefan]

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Neo-Mongoloids include Buryats, Eskimo, Chuckchi, and north Chinese. They have extreme Mongoloid, cold-adapted features. Paleo-Mongoloids are less Mongoloid and are less cold-adapted. They include American Indians, Filippinos, Polynesians, and Burmese.
At one time people who were intermediate between whites and Mongoloids lived in northern Asia, Japan, and the Americas. They have been called proto-Nordics and paleo-mongoloids. They included the Jomon People of prehistoric Japan and their descendants, the Ainu, some of which look Caucasian. Japan has a much milder climate because it is near the sea and at a lower altitude. Also, the Jomon people were technologically advanced; they invented the world's first pottery around 11,000 BC. Historically, Mongoloid peoples moved into southeast Asia and mixed with Australoids to form the modern neo-Mongoloids.

Mongoloids probably originated in what is now the deserts of Xinjiang, north of Tibet. During the Ice Age, this area was very cold and wet. Caucasoids once extended halfway across Siberia and into Mongolia, Manchuria, and Japan. Some of these areas may have been very cold, but the Caucasoids came from warmer areas in Europe and had warmer clothing.

Caucasoids spread a macro-language family known as Eurasiatic, which includes the languages of Europe, Korean, Japanese, Turkish, Mongolian, most Siberian langauges, and Eskimo. The linguist Joseph Greenberg wrote a book about this called INDO-EUROPEAN AND ITS CLOSEST RELATIVES, THE EURASIATIC LANGUAGE FAMILY. Among language families in his Eurasiatic family are Indo-European, Uralic-Yukaghir, Altaic (which includes Turkish, Mongolian, and the Siberian languages in the Tungusic family), Gilyak (eastern Siberia and Sakhalin island), Chukotian (eastern Siberia), Korean-Japanese-Ainu, and Eskimo-Aleut.
The geneticist Luca Cavalli-Sforza, in HISTORY AND GEOGRAPHY OF HUMAN GENES, confirmed that these people all are genetically related as well as linguistically related.
The Mongoloid race originated further south and spread north. Meanwhile, languages spread in different directions. Chinese, Burmese, and Tibetan all originated in Mongolia or nearby areas occuppied by Caucasoids, proto-Nordics or paleo-mongoloids or something in between or mixed between them. Surprisingly, according to Cavalli-Sforza, northern Chinese are genetically more related to Europeans than they are to southern Chinese.
I think he exaggerates, but there are Caucasoid genes in northern China and northern Asia. Southern China is more mongoloid, with some Australoid thrown in. ''

[Finlandeutsch]

So, if he likes women of his own race, that's an ''insult''.?

How can you be certain that he does? I'm sure he's not a racist and if he has never been in an interracial relationship it's only because there is a lack of white women in Japan.

[Osprey]

How can you be certain that he does? I'm sure he's not a racist and if he has never been in an interracial relationship it's only because there is a lack of white women in Japan.

I don't know and don't care.
Still, i believe some Japs have got the decency of marrying good women of their own race than trying varieties of fetish obsessed whores from all around the world.

[Stefan]

I'm sure he's not a racist

I'm not sure about that. Gaijin aren't generally welcomed. He might not be racist, but xenophobia is quite prevalent in Japan, naturally of course.

[dralos]

How can you be certain that he does? I'm sure he's not a racist and if he has never been in an interracial relationship it's only because there is a lack of white women in Japan.
traitor:mad:

[Finlandeutsch]

traitor:mad:

LOL what do you think you will accomplish with a self-deprecating reaction like that?

[dralos]

LOL what do you think you will accomplish with a self-deprecating reaction like that?
getting you on the white path of life

[Talvi]

I'm not sure about that. Gaijin aren't generally welcomed. He might not be racist, but xenophobia is quite prevalent in Japan, naturally of course.

I think its 50-50. They either love whites or dislike. As far as Ive understood a white woman has to beat men away with a stick in Japan. Same with white men of course. And oftentimes their mothers encourage them to be in international relationships (especially for girls).

[Osprey]

I think its 50-50. They either love whites or dislike. As far as Ive understood a white woman has to beat men away with a stick in Japan. Same with white men of course. And oftentimes their mothers encourage them to be in international relationships (especially for girls).

And this is not fetish but True Love!!

[Talvi]

And this is not fetish but True Love!!

The Japanese do not believe in love.

[Osprey]

The Japanese do not believe in love.

But Finlandeutsch thinks they do.
Infact, she's sure of it.

[Finlandeutsch]

The Japanese do not believe in love.

What is that supposed to mean?

[Osprey]

What is that supposed to mean?

Means that even Talvi has agreed that he has taken you because of your snow white skin, pretty yellow hair and gorgeous blue eyes.
Keep dreaming of ''love''.

[Talvi]

What is that supposed to mean?

In Japanese there is a word "renai" which stands for romantic love and is not used for marriages. A lot of people still marry because of traditions, wanting kids, a family, or for women - because they do not wish to work. Many people still use matchmaking and marry without falling in love. Marriage is a business.

It does not mean Japanese people do not love, they do. But at tmes there are more important things, and some people feel they cannot afford to love (pressure from parents, society etc)

[Stefan]

In Japanese there is a word "renai" which stands for romantic love and is not used for marriages. A lot of people still marry because of traditions, wanting kids, a family, or for women - because they do not wish to work. Many people still use matchmaking and marry without falling in love. Marriage is a business.

If only it was like that in the West. There would be far less mixing, more stable families, etc.

[Talvi]

If only it was like that in the West. There would be far less mixing, more stable families, etc.

If what you wish for your society are unhappy people who have affairs and stay married because of kids, their parents or the society then yes.

If they have time, most of them lead pretty boring lives and have affairs or end up committing suicide.

[Osprey]

If only it was like that in the West. There would be far less mixing, more stable families, etc.

The love which you gradually accept is often deeper and truer than the one which is based solely on carnal cravings or attention seeking repatriate.

[Osprey]

If what you wish for your society are unhappy people who have affairs and stay married because of kids, their parents or the society then yes.

Its just an illusion.
People today are more unhappy, suicidal and have more partners on average.
If you marry a person like yourself, you gradually accept that person and your bond grow stronger.
Two different people's bond will grow weaker over the years.

[Talvi]

The love which you gradually accept is often deeper and truer than the one which is based solely on carnal cravings or attention seeking repatriate.

After really fallen in love, youll never say that again.

[Finlandeutsch]

In Japanese there is a word "renai" which stands for romantic love and is not used for marriages. A lot of people still marry because of traditions, wanting kids, a family, or for women - because they do not wish to work. Many people still use matchmaking and marry without falling in love. Marriage is a business.

It does not mean Japanese people do not love, they do. But at tmes there are more important things, and some people feel they cannot afford to love (pressure from parents, society etc)

But we are in America and out love is nothing like what you described.

[Stefan]

If what you wish for your society are unhappy people who have affairs and stay married because of kids, their parents or the society then yes.

That's not found in the west? Many people marry thinking they're in love and actually find out they're not, divorce, repeat. In the long run, at least the kids get a better deal. They have a stable family with parents who don't love them any less.

[Talvi]

Its just an illusion.
People today are more unhappy, suicidal and have more partners on average.
If you marry a person like yourself, you gradually accept that person and your bond grow stronger.
Two different people's bond will grow weaker over the years.

similarities between people doesnt mean they are a good match at all. and 2 people who are the say may just as well grow tired of each other.

[Talvi]

But we are in America and out love is nothing like what you described.

I dont know anything about your personal life. Its the first time im seeing you post here.

[Osprey]

After really fallen in love, youll never say that again.

Keep aside your carna pleasures.
Keep aside your 'Oh he listens to me, so he must be caring attitude'
A person is judged by how he acts when his own life is at stake.
A non white will NEVER hold you dearer than his life or family.
A white man will sacrifice his sleep, his money and his own fucking life just to see his wife and kids safe.

[Osprey]

similarities between people doesnt mean they are a good match at all. and 2 people who are the say may just as well grow tired of each other.

If you grow 'tired' of your companion, then you are not a person to whom 'love' is a necessity.
You should fuck whoever accepts you and is reasonably hot according to your standards and leave.

[Talvi]

That's not found in the west? Many people marry thinking they're in love and actually find out they're not, divorce, repeat. In the long run, at least the kids get a better deal. They have a stable family with parents who don't love them any less.

im sure the kids will not get a better deal knowing their parents dont like each other. It will become obvious. Ive had Japanese people tell me they envy my parents who love each other, but theirs are just together for them. Its useless.

[Finlandeutsch]

If only it was like that in the West. There would be far less mixing, more stable families, etc.

So mixed families are unstable?

[Mordid]

look east slavic as hell, pred pontid with east baltid influence

[Osprey]

im sure the kids will not get a better deal knowing their parents dont like each other. It will become obvious. Ive had Japanese people tell me they envy my parents who love each other, but theirs are just together for them. Its useless.

Answering selected parts of a post in their entirety, twisting arguments and posting irrelevant things will get you this
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/62150/1718974-facepalm_epic.jpg

[Stefan]

im sure the kids will not get a better deal knowing their parents dont like each other. It will become obvious. Ive had Japanese people tell me they envy my parents who love each other, but theirs are just together for them. Its useless.

Hell I'd rather have parents who were together and didn't love each-other (romantically) than parents who weren't together period. Right now every few years I have a new step-parent. This isn't something rare either. I know plenty other people in the same situation. Regardless, I'm sure there is some type of bond formed having children and raising them, even if you aren't especially romantic with your partner. I think it is probably an exaggeration to say they feel nothing for each-other.

[finþaų]

Does this long row of off-topic discussion have anything to do with the classification requested? If not, please take it elsewhere.

[Stefan]

So mixed families are unstable?

Probably, but that wasn't my point. Mixed children are unstable, and from a preservationist perspective a harm to human diversity and ethnic determination. From a racialist/racist perspective, usually there is a lost in biological fitness. These are generalizations of course, but they do have a basis.

[finþaų]

Rather Europoid-influenced (Ainu?) Nordsinid, I would guess. Some northern Mongoloids have Cromagniform/pseudo-Aurignacoid tendencies to their phenotypes.

[King Claus]

to me he looks japanese with euro

[Finlandeutsch]

getting you on the white path of life

I've already been on the white path and it's not for me. I think someone of another race is the only person who can truly appreciate me and my culture because of our bigger differences. Being accepted into an exotic tribe and learning of all the similarities we have is such an enlightening experience. Honestly, I feel sorry for women and men who have never dated inter-racially. Even more so for those who refuse to. They don't know what they're missing.

[aherne]

Balanced mixed of Jomon and Yayoi, hence an Eurasian look. Reconstruction of a Jomon man:
http://www.united-brain.co.jp/koga-jiyo.jpg
Who looks like Toshiro Mifune:
http://www.toshiromifune.org/images/lastsamurai/sanjuro4.jpg
This is a contemporary sketch of Emishi people, who were Jomon direct descendants:
http://emishi-ezo.net/images/koromo.jpg

It's clear that in Abe Hiroshi's case, Yayoi element is strongly dominant with Jomon influence making him recognizably Japanese.

[Chego]

Hey, it's true that many japanese are quite racist,
I've experienced that myself.
sorry for being off-topic

[GeistFaust]

Nord-Sinid predominantly.