Roman emperor

[only1]

http://images.alinari.it/img/480/ADA/ADA-F-001536-0000.jpg

http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/lookandlearn-preview/M/M075/M075698.jpg

[Cynewald]

Alpinoid from those.

[Osprey]

more like borreby mixed with atlantid

[aherne]

Shows the effects of a multicultural empire. That face could have never passed as Roman a few hundred years ago... Looks un-Italic.

[only1]

Shows the effects of a multicultural empire. That face could have never passed as Roman a few hundred years ago... Looks un-Italic.

What do you mean? He looks mostly CM.


Somehow reminds me of Henry VIII:

http://theshiksa.com/images/2011/02/Henry-VIII-cropped1.jpg

[aherne]

What do you mean? He looks mostly CM.

Not so. Looks Illyrian.

[Ianus]

Decimus Celius Calvinus Balbinus was emperor for only three month. For his family background there are various hypothesis, however nothing is sure.

Here a profile picture
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Balbinus_Hermitage.jpg/388px-Balbinus_Hermitage.jpg

I think could be Alpine+Med

[Smeagol]

Alpine.

[Anglojew]

What do you mean? He looks mostly CM.


Somehow reminds me of Henry VIII:

http://theshiksa.com/images/2011/02/Henry-VIII-cropped1.jpg

There's some possibility Henry could be descended from a relative or descendent of him (As the Roman Patrician class were intermarried) as he would no doubt be descended from Roman Emporers eg

http://tao221.wordpress.com/b-a-line-of-descent-from-byzantine-eastern-roman-emperors/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_from_antiquity

[Smeagol]

There's some possibility Henry could be descended from a relative or descendent of him (As the Roman Patrician class were intermarried) as he would no doubt be descended from Roman Emporers eg

Most of the Emperors after Commodus weren't Patricians, or even Romans.

[Caismeachd]

Alpine and med I suppose. Most of those old busts are mixes of alpine and gracile med. Sometimes in a bit unusual ways.

[Smeagol]

Most of those old busts are mixes of alpine and gracile med.

Not really. Almost none of them show Gracile Med.

[Caismeachd]

I disagree. A lot have a gracile med element mixed with alpine. There is a CM element to a lot of the busts as well I suppose. Some more or less. Some more straight atlanto-med. Some more alpine. But I see a gracile med component to a lot of them.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-q3VmWlNStXA/T061y6L-5RI/AAAAAAAADhY/nYKKBROkTSw/s1600/caesar_augustus.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Bust_Gordianus_III_Louvre_Ma1063.jpg/400px-Bust_Gordianus_III_Louvre_Ma1063.jpg

http://www.lessing-photo.com/p3/030506/03050653.jpg

[Smeagol]

I disagree. A lot have a gracile med element mixed with alpine. There is a CM element to a lot of the busts as well I suppose. Some more or less. Some more straight atlanto-med. Some more alpine. But I see a gracile med component to a lot of them.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-q3VmWlNStXA/T061y6L-5RI/AAAAAAAADhY/nYKKBROkTSw/s1600/caesar_augustus.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Bust_Gordianus_III_Louvre_Ma1063.jpg/400px-Bust_Gordianus_III_Louvre_Ma1063.jpg

http://www.lessing-photo.com/p3/030506/03050653.jpg

Well a few of them show Gracile Med, but not most, and I don't see it in Augustus, or Cicero, only in the second guy. Who is he?

[aherne]

I disagree. A lot have a gracile med element mixed with alpine. There is a CM element to a lot of the busts as well I suppose. Some more or less. Some more straight atlanto-med. Some more alpine. But I see a gracile med component to a lot of them.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-q3VmWlNStXA/T061y6L-5RI/AAAAAAAADhY/nYKKBROkTSw/s1600/caesar_augustus.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Bust_Gordianus_III_Louvre_Ma1063.jpg/400px-Bust_Gordianus_III_Louvre_Ma1063.jpg

http://www.lessing-photo.com/p3/030506/03050653.jpg
The difference between these typical Northern Italics and Balbinus is simply spectacular. Also they show an extremely homogeneous ethnic group, with a very well defined national type (where busts confirm skeletal evidence that pretty much all ethnic members belonged to). There is simply zero possibility that Balbinus was of Italian origins.

[Ylla]

Alpine med

[Odin]

Alpine-Med.

[Ziveth]

Alpine

[Columella]

Still within Roman head dimensions:
Head is not short, broad, broad forehead, somewhat low and flat.
howevwr not as broad as in the busts of Giulio-Claudians and Flavians.
Face is large and long, he is overweight.
https://www.collectors-society.com/usercontent/images/article_images/90001653_Ancient_lg.jpeg

Of the types maybe some Alpine carachtetistics and some Mediterranoid ones but far from textbook