Dené–Caucasian languages

[SKYNET]

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Dené–Caucasian is a proposed language family that includes the Sino-Tibetan, North Caucasian, Na-Dené, and Yeniseian language families and the Basque and Burushaski languages. The connection between two of its members has recently been accepted by many linguists (see Dené–Yeniseian languages). The validity of the rest of the family is viewed as very doubtful by many historical linguists and emphatically rejected by some, including Lyle Campbell, Ives Goddard, and Larry Trask.

the source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den%C3%A9%E2%80%93Caucasian_languages

[Siginulfo]

Burushaski could be IE according to this: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52106&highlight=Burushaski

[SKYNET]

they're not IE, it's just impossible.
1 language
2 culture

they're light as the people from north caucasus

[Siginulfo]

they're not IE, it's just impossible.
1 language
2 culture

A phrase I tell to a lot of people: believe what you want, the proofs are right there. :thumb001:

[SKYNET]

lol "the proofs are right" isn't sufficient. Have you ever heard people speaking Burishi language? They are non white, they're like as Caucasians. That's a fact.

[Siginulfo]

lol "the proofs are right" isn't sufficient. Have you ever heard people speaking Burishi language? They are non white, they're like as Caucasians. That's a fact.

WTF? Caucasians are white! Didn't you see Ossetians, Armenians, etc...?

[SKYNET]

WTF? Caucasians are white! Didn't you see Ossetians, Armenians, etc...?

no no no .. you misunderstood me :p Caucasians are Chechens, a some people in Dagestan, Circassians and there are nothing more. You've included a some people of IE as Ossetians and Armenians in Caucasian group. That's indeed "WTF" ;)

[Smaug]

It's dubious that ALL these languages are related...
Well, I believe that the Basque language is related to the Caucasian laguages (like the Kartvelian family, like Georgian). There is even a theory that says the Iberians, who inhabited Iberia before the Celtic invasion were of Caucasian origin. Some shall have mixed with the Celtic invaders giving rise to the Celtiberians, and others shall have remained untouched, giving rise to the Basques. There is even a region in modern Georgia called "Iberia".

[interes]

no no no .. you misunderstood me :p Caucasians are Chechens, a some people in Dagestan, Circassians and there are nothing more. You've included a some people of IE as Ossetians and Armenians in Caucasian group. That's indeed "WTF" ;)

Caucassains are more Georgians than chechens or Circassians I know this?

[Han Cholo]

It's dubious that ALL these languages are related...
Well, I believe that the Basque language is related to the Caucasian laguages (like the Kartvelian family, like Georgian). There is even a theory that says the Iberians, who inhabited Iberia before the Celtic invasion were of Caucasian origin. Some shall have mixed with the Celtic invaders giving rise to the Celtiberians, and others shall have remained untouched, giving rise to the Basques. There is even a region in modern Georgia called "Iberia".

It isn't. Completely different in morphology and phonology. Both Iberias are greek exonyms btw, Both Iberian peoples never called themselves as such.

Compare a praying:

მამაო ჩვენო, რომელი ხარ ცათა შინა,
mamao chveno, romeli khar tsata shina,

წმინდა იყავნ სახელი შენი,
tsminda iqavn sakheli sheni,

მოვედინ სუფება შენი,
movedin supeva sheni,

იყავნ ნება შენი, ვითარცა ცათა შინა, ეგრეცა ქვეყანასა ზედა.
iqavn neba sheni, vitartsa tsata shina, egretsa kveqanasa zeda.

პური ჩვენი არსობისა მომეც ჩვენ დღეს
puri chveni arsobisa momets chven dghes

და მომიტევენ ჩვენ თანანადებნი ჩვენნი,
da momiteven chven tananadebni chvenni,

ვითარცა ჩვენ მივუტევებთ თანამდებთა მათ ჩვენთა,
vitartsa chven mivutevebt tanamdebta mat chventa,

და ნუ შემიყვანებ ჩვენ განსაცდელსა,
da nu shemiqvaneb chven gansatsdelsa,

არამედ მიხსნენ ჩვენ ბოროტისაგან,
aramed mikhsnen chven borotisagan,

რამეთუ შენი არს სუფევა, ძალი და დიდება,
ramethu sheni ars supheva,dzali da dideba,

სახელითა მამისა და ძისა და სულიწმიდისა,
sakhelitha mamisa da dzisa da sulitsmidisa,

აწ და მარადის და უკუნითი უკუნისამდე.
ats da maradis da ukunithi ukunisamde.

ამინ. - amin.


Gure aita, zeruetan zarana:
santu izan bedi zure izena,
etor bedi zure erreiñua,
egin bedi zure naia,
zeruan bezela lurrean bere.
Emoiguzu gaur
egun ontako ogia.
Parkatu gure zorrak,
geuk bere gure zordunai
parkatzen dautsegun ezkero;
eta ez gu tentaldira eroan
baiña atara gagizuz gatxetik.

[interes]

It isn't. Completely different in morphology and phonology. Both Iberias are greek exonyms btw, Both Iberian peoples never called themselves as such.

Compare a praying:

Georgian surnames like spainard surnames .

Beria, Loria, Beqauri, wiklauri, Mania,soordia

[Han Cholo]

Georgian surnames like spainard surnames .

Beria, Loria, Beqauri, wiklauri, Mania,soordia
Only Loria sounds a bit Spanish. Aren't most Georgians surnames like "-svhili" or "-hadze"?

[interes]

Only Loria sounds a bit Spanish. Aren't most Georgians surnames like "-svhili" or "-hadze"?

No why. Busque surname Echauri like Georgian- Beqauri. :))

West georgians most mingrelians surnames like .loria, beria xoperia topuria.
East Georgian surnames like shvili i and dze

est georgian surnames

[interes]

no no no .. you misunderstood me :p Caucasians are Chechens, a some people in Dagestan, Circassians and there are nothing more. You've included a some people of IE as Ossetians and Armenians in Caucasian group. That's indeed "WTF" ;)

Circassian leguage like turkish leguage

[Smaug]

It isn't. Completely different in morphology and phonology. Both Iberias are greek exonyms btw, Both Iberian peoples never called themselves as such.

Compare a praying:

True, two years after posting that, as well as having time to read more on the subject, I have to say they are not related indeed.