Will New Zealand soon be Maori again?

[Albion]

The Maori and Polynesian population in NZ seems to be growing very fast - do you think they'll become the majority? Will NZ return to be Maori with Europeans as a minority? :eek:

It's a serious question. More importantly, what do Aussies and Kiwis think?

[StonyArabia]

Yes the Maori population has grown but even if they become the majority the elite will most likely still be of Anglo-Celtic stock. Though I doubt the White population will be pushed aside or dominated by the Maoris anytime soon.

[Breedingvariety]

Different races living side by side have three paths:
1. Merge into one race (like India);
2. Race war of extermination;
3. Evolve into different species.

[Balmung]

What? oh no.

We must send the Anglo forces immediately to free New Zealand.

[Albion]

What? oh no.

We must send the Anglo forces immediately to free New Zealand.

The Brits will happily send over more people to help reinforce the numbers. ;)

[Breedingvariety]

The Brits will happily send over more people to help reinforce the numbers. ;)
Albion, before you go on colonisation ventures, you Brits need to secure your island first.

[Albion]

Albion, before you go on colonisation ventures, you Brits need to secure your island first.

There's 50 million English, we can spare 10 million of them. ;) The English are breeding fine, immigrants are just being invited over by the government regardless of this though.
The government wouldn't care if we had 100 million people on this little island. :(

[Graham]

If that were to happen. You can say good bye, to winning the Rugby world cups. New Zealand dominance.

[Breedingvariety]

The government wouldn't care if we had 100 million people on this little island. :(
I never care about numbers. I care about idea.

The question is: what living idea represents your nation?

If you support the idea, then the more people, the better. If you oppose the idea, then the less people, the better.

IMO.

[Balmung]

Albion, before you go on colonisation ventures, you Brits need to secure your island first.

Brits have a good population for the size of the British isles. I think only Scandinavian countries should be worried when it comes to immigrants.

Britain is too populated and the British have input too much of their genetics around the world to ever really go extinct.

[Albion]

I never care about numbers. I care about idea.

The question is: what living idea represents your nation?

If you support the idea, then the more people, the better. If you oppose the idea, then the less people, the better.

IMO.

Too many people will just ruin the country for all of us. There's currently around 50 million English and 10 million Celts in the British Isles, the population is projected to hit 70 million in a few decades.


Britain is too populated and the British have input too much of their genetics around the world to ever really go extinct.

Yes, NZ and Australia are still mainly British although there's some Italian and other input there now too.
In America and Canada most have some German or other ancestry too, but like you said - we're everywhere, even if in diluted form. ;)

[Breedingvariety]

Brits are going extinct in London.

[Balmung]

Too many people will just ruin the country for all of us. There's currently around 50 million English and 10 million Celts in the British Isles, the population is projected to hit 70 million in a few decades.



Yes, NZ and Australia are still mainly British although there's some Italian and other input there now too.
In America and Canada most have some German or other ancestry too, but like you said - we're everywhere, even if in diluted form. ;)

Here in America we overestimate German ancestry.

I believe in 1780 74% of American caucasians were from the British isles. Germans only made up 6.9% of the population in 1780. In 1980 50 million people claimed English ancestry. The largest wave of Germans occurred in 1820 and after. These German ships also included many Jews and german speaking indivisuals in Germany. Between 1820-1980 i believe we recieved a total of 7 million + ethnic Germans. If you look up the immigration statistics and historical records it makes no sense that Germans would have reached 50 million and outnumbered/outbred the majority in such a short time.

Most American Caucasians have a heavy British component or colonial blood if they can trace their families far enough. Our Germans, our Italians they are almost always English, Scottish, Irish, or Welsh and sometimes all 3 of them or 4. Our two Dutch presidents had a heavy British component and even our current Black president is Irish & English.

The real German American number shouldn't even be 20 million. The number keeps miracuously jumping up as well. It used to be 49 million.....Germans keep appearing out of nowhere.

You can see the evidence in the phenotypes of average American whites as well. Or even the Surname majority. Yes, African Americans also have English surnames and many foreigners Anglicized their names. But i highly doubt every German American would have anglicized their names as plenty other foreigners such as Italians kept their surnames. If the number was truly 50 million you would be sure to see ateast 3-5 German surnames in the top 20.


As for Canada, British isles is still the majority, French canadians are the second largest. I think there's only around 3 million Germans in Canada.

[Albion]

Brits are going extinct in London.

I think Europeans are going extinct in all their capital cities. :(

[Peyrol]

I think Europeans are going extinct in all their capital cities. :(

Not in Rome, the city is still 85% italian.

[Breedingvariety]

The most American part of USA- Mid West is heavily Germanic.

Germans have superiority complex and they don't tend to mix with outsiders very much. When they went to America, they formed their own communities. They tended to live in smaller towns and villages, where birth rate is higher. It is possible German Americans are numerous purely because of their higher reproductive rate.

[Sarmatian]

There are very few pure Maori alive today. Most of them are heavily mixed and look almost like Whites. They are most likely to assimilate if we will give them enough time.

[Balmung]

The most American part of USA- Mid West is heavily Germanic.

Germans have superiority complex and they don't tend to mix with outsiders very much. When they went to America, they formed their own communities. They tended to live in smaller towns and villages, where birth rate is higher. It is possible German Americans are numerous purely because of their higher reproductive rate.

I'm afraid even a state like Minnesota has a heavy British isles component. many people who come from there are from varying ethnicities. Its not really the "Nordic land" people claim it is. Out of all the actors who have come out of Minnesota ive only seen one who looks really Scandinavian and thats this guy.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Garrett_Hedlund_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg/487px-Garrett_Hedlund_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg

It may have more German input than other locations, but they're still quite mixed. Remember people like Jessica Biel & Vince Vaughn come from Minnesota. Two heavily mixed indivisuals. Maybe in 1880 it would have been more Germanized, i don't think it applies today though.

[arcticwolf]

There are very few pure Maori alive today. Most of them are heavily mixed and look almost like Whites. They are most likely to assimilate if we will give them enough time.

Mate, there are quite a few dudes over here, blond hair, blue eyes who carry .... Indian tribal cards. hehehe

They claim Indian Heritage in the distant past to get freebies. It works like a charm over here.

[Comte Arnau]

Aotearoa, 2022.

http://static.stuff.co.nz/1328258875/599/4624599.jpg

[Breedingvariety]

Superior American, I have seen many Germanic looking Americans in reality TV shows. If they were of British descent, the component was of later Germanic Anglo- Saxon and Viking extraction.

IMO.

[arkas]

Possibly but it is unlikely, although I think Asian immigration, East and South, are also contributing to the declining White population. I reckon the future will probably be a mixed race population and I don't know if they'd really maintain the Maori identity tbh.

If they all mixed today the average person would be around 70% White, 20% Polynesian and 10% Asian.

Funnily enough there is an old Hollywood actress, Merle Oberon, she was known to be mostly White British with partial Indian and Polynesian heritage.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSZuj0O0vKX4ErYAjGZQY1ZA_OYUr6 WVtB9iEyTfdE_Clmw_nZV
The future of the Kiwis could look something like her lol

[Dna8]

Perhaps some time in the future an Asian ethnic majority New Zealand might, on account of a future style of voting, make NZ a politico culturally and legally, Maori ethnostate.

[frankhammer]

Perhaps some time in the future an Asian ethnic majority New Zealand might, on account of a future style of voting, make NZ a politico culturally and legally, Maori ethnostate.

Yeah, nah.

[Nazarene]

Perhaps some time in the future an Asian ethnic majority New Zealand might, on account of a future style of voting, make NZ a politico culturally and legally, Maori ethnostate.

My God, the women would be very aesthetic.

[frankhammer]

My God, the women would be very aesthetic.

You need to get out and about more. :p Most Chinese are not gorgeous. Most Polynesians are not good looking and are fat. Most Maoris are not good looking, poor and with a shitty attitude. (For both the latter, the average is pretty damned ugly) God damn it, even our indians seem to be the ugliest on the planet.

Now combine those with a rather average honky population. The future isn't bright for a handsome and pretty mulatto population.

[Dna8]

Even five hundred years into the future, how will NZ's aesthetics compare with today..

[frankhammer]

Even five hundred years into the future, how will NZ's aesthetics compare with today..

You tell me...


https://i.imgur.com/Te6y4tN.png

[Sarmatian]

My God, the women would be very aesthetic.

Would you date Abo women? From my experience an average Maori woman looks is somewhere in between Aboriginals and Indonesians. It's extremely rare for some to have refined Asian features dominating and only in such cases they do come out as quite attractive. But their attitudes are still appalling.

[Dna8]

https://i.imgur.com/Te6y4tN.png

I never once mentioned music, I'm not sure how Keith Richards is relevant..

[Ayetooey]

I doubt it. White population is still rising in terms of numbers, just not in percent. More likely it’ll become an Asian majority state but I doubt that will happen either:

[Nazarene]

You need to get out and about more. :p Most Chinese are not gorgeous. Most Polynesians are not good looking and are fat. Most Maoris are not good looking, poor and with a shitty attitude. (For both the latter, the average is pretty damned ugly) God damn it, even our indians seem to be the ugliest on the planet.

Now combine those with a rather average honky population. The future isn't bright for a handsome and pretty mulatto population.

Lmao I'm taking the piss bro. I'm not really attracted to any of those groups tbh, European New Zealanders are the best looking handsdown.

[Nazarene]

Would you date Abo women? From my experience an average Maori woman looks is somewhere in between Aboriginals and Indonesians. It's extremely rare for some to have refined Asian features dominating and only in such cases they do come out as quite attractive. But their attitudes are still appalling.

I wish bro, I live in Aussie now and I'm dying to check out that Australoid aesthetic

[GreentheViper]

Yes, their take over is inevitable, as long as the evil white hating liberal establishment is still in power!!

[frankhammer]

Lmao I'm taking the piss bro. I'm not really attracted to any of those groups tbh, European New Zealanders are the best looking handsdown.

The only truly serious part of that post was about the ugly NZ Indians. Thank you colonial Britain, Fiji and what I assume are untouchables...

[Wōden]

I'd say if the racial trends of today continue, Maori would likely be mostly mixed with the Europeans to a point where all could claim native ancestry (that's certainly not the case now). But things going as they are, we'll likely have a much larger Asian population in the future, however the Asians here are very endogamous relative to Europeans and Maori; meaning we'd probably have a society mostly made up of east Asians (primarily Chinese) and then some sort of European-Maori amalgam.

[Wōden]

Although something to keep in mind is that a little over 3/4s of the population live in the North Island. And the racial demographics are markedly different too; the 2013 census showed that the south Island was 88% European, 9% Maori, 5% Asian and 2% Polynesian; meanwhile the North Island was 70% European, 17% Maori, 14% Asian and 9% Polynesian. And at that, the people who claim to be Maori could be diluted as all hell. Sure those numbers are a bit outdated, but it is something of an indicator as to some of the differences between the North and South.

If anything, we should be concerned about all the trouble with China, if a war kicks off between them and the US, worst case scenario, our lands are "repurposed" by the Chinese and they rape us even harder than we are being already.