Death by Demographics & Mass Immigration

[Supreme American]

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[Onur]

It`s all about the European peoples low birthrate.

As long as they don't increase their population, there will always be immigrants in Europe. The only way to stop it, is to maintain healthy population growth, then there wont be any need to immigrants to work because there will be enough local population. If there is no work to do, then there will never be immigrants around.

So, blaming immigrants for your own fertility problem is a bit hypocrisy. The immigration is the result of current cultural problems of Europe and the fertility problem it brings.

Also the greed of western capitalism creates immigrant issue. They wanna produce more than they need, so they can become more powerful and more richer by controlling the food+mechanics+technology supply of the world. So, they need more people than they already have for this and thus, they invite immigrants. For example, the current system of USA is totally based on this.

[Edelmann]

It`s all about the European peoples low birthrate.

As long as they don't increase their population, there will always be immigrants in Europe. The only way to stop it, is to maintain healthy population growth, then there wont be any need to immigrants to work because there will be enough local population. If there is no work to do, then there will never be immigrants around.

So, blaming immigrants for your own fertility problem is a bit hypocrisy. The immigration is the result of current cultural problems of Europe and the fertility problem it brings.

Also the greed of western capitalism creates immigrant issue. They wanna produce more than they need, so they can become more powerful and more richer by controlling the food+mechanics+technology supply of the world. So, they need more people than they already have for this and thus, they invite immigrants. For example, the current system of USA is totally based on this.

^ Isn't aware that that's just an excuse.

[Supreme American]

It`s all about the European peoples low birthrate.

In part, yes. Also the mass immigration. If the powers that be were dedicated enough, they could set up a system of cycling European labor to the needed "hot spots" as temporary workers to fill needs while preserving the whole.

The truth is, they don't give a shit.

[Breedingvariety]

As long as they don't increase their population, there will always be immigrants in Europe. The only way to stop it, is to maintain healthy population growth, then there wont be any need to immigrants to work because there will be enough local population. If there is no work to do, then there will never be immigrants around.
There is no need for immigrant workers, there never has been a need for immigrant workers. There is no such thing as a need for immigrant workforce.

Supply and demand: these are the most basic concepts of economics theory. If there is a demand for workers, then the pay for workers rise, thus equilibrium is adjusted. Immigration just lowers the pay for workers by increasing the supply of workforce. There are no fixed amount of job slots with fixed pay. And, therefore, there is no need for immigrant workforce.

Immigration is always bad for local population as it increases the competition for resources and living space.

[Breedingvariety]

If local workers live well, they increase their reproductive rate. Immigration prevents local workers from living well, so they reduce their reproductive rate.

Dumb immigrants can't hold themselves from reproducing according to their income and living standards. So they will increase in numbers, regardless. Thus the character of a nation will change.

Western Europe is beginning to look doomed, bar race war.

[Ghost Knight]

It`s all about the European peoples low birthrate.
As long as they don't increase their population, there will always be immigrants in Europe. The only way to stop it, is to maintain healthy population growth, then there wont be any need to immigrants to work because there will be enough local population. If there is no work to do, then there will never be immigrants around.
So, blaming immigrants for your own fertility problem is a bit hypocrisy. The immigration is the result of current cultural problems of Europe and the fertility problem it brings.
Also the greed of western capitalism creates immigrant issue. They wanna produce more than they need, so they can become more powerful and more richer by controlling the food+mechanics+technology supply of the world. So, they need more people than they already have for this and thus, they invite immigrants. For example, the current system of USA is totally based on this.


You cannot maintain a healthy birth rate without religion. Once Europe rejected God,their birth rate declined dramatically. Now the elite need immigrants to survive.

[Flintlocke]

The thing is there are two worlds actually. One is a technologically advanced, full of resources and people are fat and happy, individualistic people who don't care about procreating but only playing with their iphones. The other world is full of swarming masses of idiotic people(?), no technology, filled with oppression and poverty, chaos and desolation. Because the people of the first world are becoming weak and apathetic, the other part is muscling in.

[Peyrol]

Lol at the part "Muslim in France have 8,1 childrens". This is a LIE, i live 40min of car from the french border and i go in some french cities many times monthly (Briancon, Nice, etc.).
Maghrebi have definitely higher birthrate than "white" french one, but is about 2-3 and not 8,1.

[Onur]

The truth is, they don't give a shit.

Immigration just lowers the pay for workers by increasing the supply of workforce.

Immigration is always bad for local population as it increases the competition for resources and living space.
It`s the elites who does that. They don't have a national identity, a religion nor a social consciousness. They only believe in money, the capital and they don't care who does the job. They just care about who will do it for the minimum price. If it`s the immigrants, then they invite them. So, you are right. They don't give a shit.

The problem is the whole system itself. It`s bringing it`s own doom just as Karl Marx predicted.

[Breedingvariety]

The thing is there are two worlds actually. One is a technologically advanced, full of resources and people are fat and happy, individualistic people who don't care about procreating but only playing with their iphones. The other world is full of swarming masses of idiotic people(?), no technology, filled with oppression and poverty, chaos and desolation. Because the people of the first world are becoming weak and apathetic, the other part is muscling in.
People in the "West" have no idea what is important. They think having a good car is important.

[Breedingvariety]

It`s the elites who does that. They don't have a national identity, a religion nor a social consciousness. They only believe in money, the capital and they don't care who does the job. They just care about who will do it for the minimum price. If it`s the immigrants, then they invite them. So, you are right. They don't give a shit.

The problem is the whole system itself. It`s bringing it`s own doom just as Karl Marx predicted.
The thing is, guillotine!

[SKYNET]

Paki demonstration in London

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OILpzOdgntM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM-rJrIQbWs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrH66PtYCOE


:mad::mad::mad:

[purple]

Once the Whites were in Africa, now Africa is in the Whites...literally:)

[SKYNET]

Once the Whites were in Africa, now Africa is in the Whites...literally:)


a most modern civilization were brought from "White Europe" to "Black Africa", whenever the african black people lived as an animal's. And now? What happens in Europe? A big fucking trash with violence

[Moonbird]

It`s all about the European peoples low birthrate.

As long as they don't increase their population, there will always be immigrants in Europe. The only way to stop it, is to maintain healthy population growth, then there wont be any need to immigrants to work because there will be enough local population. If there is no work to do, then there will never be immigrants around.

So, blaming immigrants for your own fertility problem is a bit hypocrisy. The immigration is the result of current cultural problems of Europe and the fertility problem it brings.


The politicians who allow mass immigration are the main culprits. When states are stupid enough to leave their borders open there will always be people who take advantage of it.

[sturmwalkure]

Unfortunately many people would not realize the severity of the problem until they are literally strangers in their own fatherland and they will ask why none of their neighbors look like them. They will ask why who allowed this to happen and why. They will ask why the language they speak is rarely heard anymore. They will ask why the great historical figures such as Martel fought to fight off the invaders and why they came back. They will ask why the politicians who claim to represent them have done nothing for them. I guess most people are content with their descendants being some shade of brown with a lower intelligence quotient and no particular racial characteristics but rather a uniform brown-skinned race of consumers with no love for any nation or any pledge. We see this already with the first and second generation descendants of these same immigrants from Africa and the Middle-East and their mixed-rage offspring with Europeans. Their favorite meeting place is always the local shopping mall, they abide to the gospel of MTV and they are rootless, raceless people without any loyalty to any nation. If they even have the mental capacity to grasp politics they would support the same Democracy and "light dictatorships" they are used to if they are not already hostile towards European interests as it is.

We see the ungrateful, hateful attitude of recently arrived Black and Arab immigrants. They believe they are owed something from industrious Europeans who can barely afford to feed their own families and let alone they must support millions of ugly, inferior free loaders and does the flood look like it is going to stop anytime soon? I do want to believe Europe won't be conquered by subhumans. How completely sinister and back handed is this plot I don't know but the fact that Europe has been demographically attacked in what can only be called ethnic cleansing in the name of "human rights". Even worse than the disgusting immigrants themselves are the Europeans who support, mix with and embrace these aliens who have for good reasons been cast out of our Europe. :( :mad:

[sturmwalkure]

People in the "West" have no idea what is important. They think having a good car is important.

This. Most people are more concerned with having a new Gucci bag, watching the next football game or if they can afford those things than if their own nation and people are going to survive. :mad: :(

[sturmwalkure]

The politicians who allow mass immigration are the main culprits. When states are stupid enough to leave their borders open there will always be people who take advantage of it.

This. I think a big part of this is the lie post World War II where most people believed they were freed from Fascism and somehow were led to believe mass immigration was the solution to this. :confused: Since "evil" Fascism fell Eastern-Europe became engulfed with Communism and Western-Europe with 'Democracy'... both two despicable Jewish ideologies and we all know Jews were the sole victors of World War II.

[Flintlocke]

Fourth generation warfare: War between non state entities, involves non state organizations using violent and non-violent means to fight, includes amongst others guerrilla action, terrorism, and mass immigration

They're fighting us, we're not fighting back.

[Hayalet]

There is no need for immigrant workers, there never has been a need for immigrant workers. There is no such thing as a need for immigrant workforce.

Supply and demand: these are the most basic concepts of economics theory. If there is a demand for workers, then the pay for workers rise, thus equilibrium is adjusted. Immigration just lowers the pay for workers by increasing the supply of workforce. There are no fixed amount of job slots with fixed pay. And, therefore, there is no need for immigrant workforce.
And that new equilibrium might result in less efficient use of economic factors, which causes less production, which in turn means less generation of wealth overall.

[Breedingvariety]

And that new equilibrium might result in less efficient use of economic factors, which causes less production, which in turn means less generation of wealth overall.
Of course there will be less total production. But there will be less people too. And reduced competition for resources and living space, would increase wealth per capita.

Unless you can explain how lower population means lower wealth per capita and higher population- higher wealth per capita?

[Hayalet]

Unless you can explain how lower population means lower wealth per capita and higher population- higher wealth per capita?
It's a matter of efficiency, economics isn't about direct proportionality between people and production.

[Breedingvariety]

It's a matter of efficiency, economics isn't about direct proportionality between people and production.
OK, efficiency. Explain how less people is less efficient.

Higher proportion of production to people is more efficient.

[Hayalet]

OK, efficiency. Explain how less people is less efficient.
I am not saying they are, but that they can be.

[Onur]

Of course there will be less total production. But there will be less people too. And reduced competition for resources and living space, would increase wealth per capita.

Unless you can explain how lower population means lower wealth per capita and higher population- higher wealth per capita?
Refer to my earlier post in this thread. This is all about the greed of capitalist elite in the west. Already, these elites have no national identity, no religion, zero care for anything. They don't care about immigration either since they don't see any regular immigrant inside their elite environment anyway. They just care about more production for less money, always more, never less and their greed cannot be extinguished in any way because this is how the system works. It`s a neverending paradox of more money, more power, more control.

[Fortis in Arduis]

Refer to my earlier post in this thread. This is all about the greed of capitalist elite in the west. Already, these elites have no national identity, no religion, zero care for anything. They don't care about immigration either since they don't see any regular immigrant inside their elite environment anyway. They just care about more production for less money, always more, never less and their greed cannot be extinguished in any way because this is how the system works. It`s a neverending paradox of more money, more power, more control.

You also blamed erroneously the invaded peoples' for this situation, stating that their birth rates are too low, even though many of their countries are overpopulated, such as the UK and the Netherlands.

Why you did this is best known to yourself.

The problem is usury, but seemingly all are hooked and convinced by it.

The multiculturalist agenda is mere window-dressing employed to make this capitalist mess less unattractive to the buyer.