Ever taken the Mensa test?

[Eldritch]

And if you did, how did it go? And are you, by any chance, a member?

[anonymaus]

“I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.”

-Groucho Marx

:D

I took it and passed many years ago. Membership didn't interest me; just a little intellectual onanism.

[Tabiti]

No, I've done only online tests, which aren't reliable:)

[Eldritch]

:D

I took it and passed many years ago. Membership didn't interest me; just a little intellectual onanism.

I have a friend who claims to have taken it twice (the maximum amount you can take it) and passed it both times, and still he claims he didn't join. He only says this when he's drunk, which is why I think his story is highly suspect.

What was your score btw, if I may ask?

[anonymaus]

What was your score btw, if I may ask?

You now know :thumb001:

[Kempenzoon]

I took the online Mensa test, which claimed I was most likely to be accepted as a member. But to be fair I'm not interested in a club like that. Mostly because I don't believe that IQ on its own is a very valid method of measuring intelligence.

The last time I took an official IQ test, not a silly online one, was in my senior high school year. I think that was about 6 years ago now.

[Eldritch]

You now know :thumb001:

Holy s**t!

I myself have never taken the test, but when I was a student I did perform as a test monkey a few times at the university of Helsinki psychology department for beer money, and they told me my IQ was most likely in the mid-120's.

Meaning, compared to you, I'm dumber than the average negro is compared to the average white person. :eek:

[anonymaus]

Holy s**t!

I myself have never taken the test, but when I was a student I did perform as a test monkey a few times at the university of Helsinki psychology department for beer money, and they told me my IQ's was most likely in the mid-120's.

Meaning, compared to you, I'm dumber than the average negro is compared to the average white person. :eek:

:lol00002:

I don't think there are many broad conclusions to draw from such numbers. In my opinion they are better indicators of abstract and spatial thinking; the higher the numbers go, so tends to go a concomitant increase in general psycho-social dysfunction.

Also: it can't mean so much since I'm the one more often admiring your acumen, my nigga. :wavey001:

[Phlegethon]

Took the test about 20 years ago and passed but did not make anything out of it as I cannot synchronize with other Mensa members who all seem to be seriously lacking social skills.

[Cato]

I took a Mensa-styled test once (not the actual Mensa test), bombed on the math questions, and had a final IQ of 75 or 80. :D

[Óttar]

Took the test about 20 years ago and passed but did not make anything out of it as I cannot synchronize with other Mensa members who all seem to be seriously lacking social skills.

I met a guy on a flight to Berlin who said he was going to a mathematics convention. He was hands down the most socially awkward person ever. He was an American, but his manner of speech was so strange I mistook him for a French person.

[Tabiti]

I took a Mensa-styled test once (not the actual Mensa test), bombed on the math questions, and had a final IQ of 75 or 80. :D
You can't get high IQ scores if you aren't enough good on maths, which means those tests aren't very accurate. I know very intelligent people with lack of math skills.

[Loki]

You can't get high IQ scores if you aren't enough good on maths, which means those tests aren't very accurate. I know very intelligent people with lack of math skills.

There are different types of intelligence though. A high IQ score denotes an individual who scores high in most, or all, of these spheres of intellect. Mathematical aptitude is one of them.

[Tabiti]

I know - there are questions for math, language and visual skills, but however most people with lack of math skills don't do well with such tests as I've observed. I usually get almost the same success in all spheres, only can fail in language sometimes if the test is in English for native speakers. That's why it is better to do IQ tests in your native language.

[HawkR]

After doing a serious number of IQ-tests (both online and offline) I know that if the req. for entering Mensa is 140, I ain't good enough, but otherways, if it was 125 I would be:p

[Tabiti]

Mine are usually around 130-135 in Bulgarian and around 130 in English. Not so great, but also not bad doing them almost sleepy and being in hurry to answer all for under 10 minutes (as I usually do during all tests), but I accept that as something funny, not quite realistic about my skills. Also think the fact I've studied engineering sciences in university and arts in school helps a bit, especially for math and visual skills questions.
Yes, I might have slightly higher than the average IQ in my area, concerning the way I did in school and now in university compared to others, but it is not IQ that makes you successful in social and professional life. Here a woman with 200 IQ is currently unemployed, so sometimes higher intelligence level stand in your way, instead of helping you.

[Phlegethon]

You can't get high IQ scores if you aren't enough good on maths, which means those tests aren't very accurate. I know very intelligent people with lack of math skills.

Yeah, like me. ;)

Actually the better tests take this into consideration and weigh the lingual part of the test higher and the maths parts (besides the purely logical questions) lower.

[Beorn]

Do Mensa have an online IQ test that can be completed?

[Loki]

Do Mensa have an online IQ test that can be completed?

They do not offer an approved online test, however they do suggest one can take the BBC Test The Nation one, to get an indication:



The BBC Test The Nation IQ quiz is not a recognised IQ test and so Mensa is unable to accept people for membership on the basis of their Test The Nation scores. However, achievement of a score of 120 or more in this IQ quiz would suggest you might like to have a go at a full Mensa IQ test.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/testthenation/

For the other tests:



A top 2% mark in any of these frequently used tests below qualifies you for entry to Mensa. The minimum test mark to get into Mensa is:

Cattell III B - 148
Culture Fair - 132
Ravens Advanced Matrices - 135
Ravens Standard Matrices - 131
Wechsler Scales - 132

[Thorum]

What is Mensa? ;)

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[Beorn]

They do not offer an approved online test, however they do suggest one can take the BBC Test The Nation one, to get an indication:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/testthenation/



Do all IQ tests come with a f**cking timer to piss me off? I can answer the questions but by the time I figure out where the correct place to click is, the timer has buzzed and gone. :mad:

[Thorum]

^ Wat, you don't get it. That is part of the test!! ;)

[Beorn]

^ Wat, you don't get it. That is part of the test!! ;)

I know, but the BBC IQ test seems to be excessively fast in timing out compared to others.

[Lahtari]

I took a Mensa-styled test once (not the actual Mensa test), bombed on the math questions, and had a final IQ of 75 or 80. :D

Wow! That's the first time I see someone reporting a two-digit IQ score on the net - despite of the fact that the very definition of IQ dictates that half of us have one. From the commonly self-reported IQ's one could calculate an average of at least 125 for people in the net ...even if the usual content tells a completely different story. :D

Never done an IQ test myself. Would be amusing, but I'm just too lazy (and probably dumb as a f*ck as well.. :redface_002: :D).

[Cato]

Wow! That's the first time I see someone reporting a two-digit IQ score on the net - despite of the fact that the very definition of IQ dictates that half of us have one. From the commonly self-reported IQ's one could calculate an average of at least 125 for people in the net ...even if the usual content tells a completely different story. :D

Never done an IQ test myself. Would be amusing, but I'm just too lazy (and probably dumb as a f*ck as well.. :redface_002: :D).

I hate math and I purposely slacked on the math questions. Actually, I had my IQ tested when I was in 8th grade and the results put me around IQ 130 to 135 (I didn't slack that time :p). Such statisical quibbling, however, is based upon a test and doesn't reflect such aspects of a person's self as creativity, logical thinking, common sense and so forth. For measuring purely technical details, IQ tests are fine, but they're utterly lacking any ability to catalogue the intuitive aspects of someone's personality.

[Vulpix]

I tried the mock mensa test (http://www.mensa.se/content/view/52/90/) online today and got 126 "or more", for whatever it's worth. Admittedly I ripped it off of them (saved it ;)) as the countdown feature alone is one of my pet hates :D.

[Tabiti]

IQ around 90 - 100 is pretty OK to do it well in your career and everyday life.

[Jamt]

I have done the “högskoleprovet” and got 1.7. They take away one block by lottery every year and they took away my best (logic) block that year. Anyway I know IQ is most or at least a lot of times beaten by work ethics. My own work ethics in academia being what it was, I deserve to be somewhere in the lower half of IQ. I will try the real test sometimes though.

[Lahtari]

I hate math and I purposely slacked on the math questions. Actually, I had my IQ tested when I was in 8th grade and the results put me around IQ 130 to 135 (I didn't slack that time :p). Such statisical quibbling, however, is based upon a test and doesn't reflect such aspects of a person's self as creativity, logical thinking, common sense and so forth. For measuring purely technical details, IQ tests are fine, but they're utterly lacking any ability to catalogue the intuitive aspects of someone's personality.

Damn! So the search for normal-and-below intelligence in the net still continues. :P

Yes, I agree that IQ shouldn't be regarded as anything more than what it is - basicly a crude indicator of human "processing power".

[Cato]

Damn! So the search for normal-and-below intelligence in the net still continues. :P

Yes, I agree that IQ shouldn't be regarded as anything more than what it is - basicly a crude indicator of human "processing power".

Yes, and I regard such tests as baseless. I've met fairly ignorant people who come off as being smarter than very intelligent people. I've got an old friend who has an IQ that's in the 140s or so, but the guy is socially inept and has indicated signs of being withdrawn in a way that suggests he might have a developmental disorder like Asperger's. Another very intelligent friend of mine is dyslexic and obsessive compulsive about certain things. Yet another (I was in gifted class for a couple of years and it's here that I met some of my closer friends) is a social misfit (unemployed former druggie and boozer who collects SSI) who exhibits signs of being slightly catatonic at times; he's also obsessed with numbers and mathematics.

I oftentimes wonder if having a high IQ equates to also having mental disorders of a lesser or greater degree. I've noticed traits within myself, slight perfectionism and an obsession with neatness, for example, and the ability to
focus for unusually long times, blocking out and ignoring the surroundings, but only when my mind is lucid (which isn't often). I liken this to a sort of meditation that's developed over the years by habit rather than any sort of disorder. The neatness is a quirk, but don't all eccentric geniuses have quirks? :p

IQ tests don't collate these kinds of questions, they merely inform you a numerial value for how smart you are (according to a pre-defined scale). Measuring anything else is outside of this scope, and so I kind of regard IQ tests with more skepticism now than I did when I was younger.

[Spaniard_Truth]

My IQ is precisely 10 trillion and 51.

[RoyBatty]

Didn't do the "Mensa" test but did an online IQ test once and the results were more or less what I expected they'd be (they corrolated with an earlier one I'd done way back when still at school). It was OK but nothing special, certainly not Mensa grade.

[Electronic God-Man]

I know, but the BBC IQ test seems to be excessively fast in timing out compared to others.

I only got 39/70. IQ = 75. :(

Some weird tests in there. I couldn't even see the faces of the people (pics were too small) that I was supposed to guess who the person was mixed with. I did best on the Reasoning section.

It's a silly test.

[Lahtari]

IQ tests don't collate these kinds of questions, they merely inform you a numerial value for how smart you are (according to a pre-defined scale). Measuring anything else is outside of this scope, and so I kind of regard IQ tests with more skepticism now than I did when I was younger.

But did these tests ever claim to be measuring anything else?

It makes sense that people with unusually high logical capabilities are more prone of sucking in something else, most notably social skills, and having higher probability of disorders. The increase in this particular area in humans may be surprizingly young, dating even as late as the dawn of civilization, and may be evolving still. It may be that we just haven't had enough time to balance it and to collect enough useful genetic mutations.

[lei.talk]

I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.
- Groucho Marx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groucho_Marx)


:D Membership didn't interest me; just a little intellectual onanism.
- anonymaus (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=857249#post857249)my vice-principal in high-school,
ushered me in to the two per centum club (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensa_International)

using my stanford-binet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient)s from elementary school
and my scholastic aptitude test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAT) from his tenure.

scoring off the chart
was easy in elementary school
because i was a reader - thanks to my maternal grand-father's attentions
(when i was two, three and four years old)
i was exposed to ideas and expectations
beyond those most adults ever encountered at that time.

before high-school,
i had found and read mortimer adler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortimer_Adler)'s favorite books (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Books_of_the_Western_World)
and the encyclopædia britannica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica).

because my father was in the military (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps),
we were tranferred to a military installation
in a different part of the world
every two years

and every library on each of those military-bases
always had those two collections of books -
which is why i read them:

a re-assuring touch-stone of consistency
in the turmoil.

one of the reasons
i have invested so much effort and money
in to jimmy's web-site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales)
is my empathy of a child's craving
for consistency and knowledge.

he was in my neighborhood
("Location: near njörd eriksson (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GZAZ_enUS281US281&q=%22nj%C3%B6rd+eriksson%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi=)" :swl)
for only a few years, but, impressed me.

the scholastic aptitude test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAT) was a multiple-choice test,
when i took it,
meaning the answer to the question
was right there on the page!

the newer essay-format is more challenging
to one's memory and compositional skills.

the main advantage of my membership
has been the girls.

the teen-aged girls
that attended the sunday meetings
of my mensa special interest group
were intelligent enough to discuss and do things
that were of interest to me

and were sufficiently nerdy
that no one had ever expressed romantic interest.

with no emotional-abuse
from any previous boy-friends,
these girls were remarkably easy companions.

additionally, having no social-skills
meant those girls did not rely on manipulation
for success - they had actual skills
that were of practical application in the real world

and told the truth
regarding their thoughts and desires
(as well as understanding the source of those).

lacking any negative sexual experiences,
they lack any of the associated inhibitions.

why am i a member of mensa?
the same reason i was a student
at ucsd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_San_Diego) for over thirty-five years - the girls.

[Rainraven]

I only got 39/70. IQ = 75. :(

Some weird tests in there. I couldn't even see the faces of the people (pics were too small) that I was supposed to guess who the person was mixed with. I did best on the Reasoning section.

It's a silly test.

It was, I got an IQ of 104, but it was all about British things and people I'd never seen before! :mad:

[Phlegethon]

Heck, I have never taken a multiple choice test in my life, except the theoretical test for my driver's license. How can one fail a multiple choice test, anyway?

[anonymaus]

Membership didn't interest me; just a little intellectual onanism.
- me
why am i a member of mensa?
the same reason i was a student
at ucsd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_San_Diego) for over thirty-five years - the girls.

I resent the implication! :icon_biggrin:

[Groenewolf]

And if you did, how did it go? And are you, by any chance, a member?

I did verry well and I have a membership-card.


Do Mensa have an online IQ test that can be completed?

It is not an entry test (http://www.mensa.org.uk/mensa-test/), but serves more as a indication how well you would do with the real test :coffee: .

[lei.talk]

http://youtu.be/iG0pzGcy4xUan absence of polarity-change (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homopolar_motor)
:levitate:

[Germanicus]

Correct me if i am wrong but.......... if i were to take the Mensa test my age would mark my score down low, even though i probably would get a high score?......not

[Loki]

After I did a high school intelligence test, I was told that I had the highest IQ in the entire school of around 1,000 pupils. I kind of resented the implication, as teachers now looked at me with different eyes ... they've been gossiping too, and some even had a "private chat" with me, telling me that I can do so much better, etc etc. :rolleyes: I was a lazy kid at school, incredibly bored, and never did my homework. Thus I did very well in subjects that required more common sense than memorization of textbooks. It was an awkward situation, as some kids told me "I wish I had your brain, then I would do ... ". :rolleyes:

Here in England I wanted to join the British Army. I did a standard military aptitude test, and the recruitment officer told me I got one of the highest IQ scores they had ever received at the Charing Cross office. However, my eyesight wasn't good enough for army standards.

[Phlegethon]

You're too old for the army, anyway. ;)

In school I did not do any homework either, but due to my photographic memory and good imrovisation skills I could read aloud my homework from an empty notebook. My memory has slightly deteriorated since then due to excessive teenage drinking, but I am still good for a few tricks if I'm in the mood.

[Loki]

You're too old for the army, anyway. ;)


It's their loss, I'm just getting into my prime now. ;) My aim for 2010 is to be in the best physical condition that I have ever been in my life.

[Phlegethon]

What for? Unemployment?

[Loki]

What for? Unemployment?

Mostly self-gratification. ;) Employed or not, doesn't matter.

[Phlegethon]

Fitness is overrated. ;)

[safinator]

I've done only the online version with an acceptable result.

[Supreme American]

After I did a high school intelligence test, I was told that I had the highest IQ in the entire school of around 1,000 pupils. I kind of resented the implication, as teachers now looked at me with different eyes ... they've been gossiping too, and some even had a "private chat" with me, telling me that I can do so much better, etc etc. :rolleyes: I was a lazy kid at school, incredibly bored, and never did my homework.

I think we had IQ tests in grade school but we were never told of a result. We all took tests called the Iowa Tests of Basic Skills in the 6th grade, and I tested nearly college level at everything. The teacher then went bonkers over it and told me how smart I was and how much I could accomplish if I just applied myself. I hated doing homework, hated half of my teachers, and hated school.

[Oreka Bailoak]

This is for the people on here who say that IQ doesn't matter...


IQ is positively correlated with...
Achievement motivation,
altruism,
analytic style,
aptitudes,
cognative abilities,
artistic preferences and abililties,
craft work,
creativity fluency,
dietary preferences (low sugar, low fat),
educational attainment,
eminence,
genius,
emotional sensitivity,
extra curricular attainment,
field independence,
height,
health fitness,
longevity,
sense of humor,
income,
depth and breadth of interests,
involvement in school activities,
leadership,
linguistic abilities (including spelling),
logical abilities,
choice of martial partner,
memory,
migration (voluntary),
military rank,
moral reasoning and development,
motor skills,
musical preferences and abilities,
myopia,
occupational status,
perceptual abilities,
piaget type abilities,
practical knowledge,
response to psychotherapy,
reading ability,
regional differences,
social skills,
socioeconomic status of origin,
socioeconomic status achieved,
sports participation at university,
super market shopping ability,
talking speed,
values and attitudes.

Negative Correlations with IQ;
accident proneness,
aceviercence,
aging,
alcoholism,
authoritarianism,
social conservatism,
crime,
delinquency,
dogmatism,
falsification (lie scores),
hysteria (versus other neurosis),
impulsivity,
infant mortality,
psychoticism,
racial prejudice,
reaction times,
smoking,
truancy,
weight to height ratio.

And I'm sure there are other correlations too. General intelligence is derived statistically through the factor analysis method...
here's a quote about that...

(footnote: If you’re interested in how g was statistically derived- factor analysis is the statistical method used to prove the existence of g. Factor analysis is not bound to produce a general factor. A general factor emerges from a hierarchical factor analysis if and only if a general factor is latent in the particular correlation matrix. A general factor derived from hierarchical analysis should be based on a matrix of positive correlations that has at least 3 latent roots (eigen values) greater than one. For proof that a g factor is not inevitable look at personality studies. The myriad of inventories that measure various personality traits have been subjected to every type of factor analysis, yet no general factor has ever emerged in the personality domain. There are however, a great many first-order group factors and several clearly identified second order group factors, or “super factors” (extroversion, introversion, neuroticism, and psychoticism) but no general factor. Similarly, the correlations among various measures of athletic ability show a substantial general factor.)

By the way, anytime somebody is put into a position that requires millions of dollars of potential danger- like fighter pilots, or football quarterbacks- what do they test? They do a variation of the WAIS IQ tests (which is strongly correlated with g) because that has been proven to be one of the best predictors of performance. The big guys (military, government agencies) all use IQ tests because out of the 30-40 tests they've given- it is the strongest correlation with job performance. (along with a personality type test for traits such as work ethic, interests etc.)

There's also a physical reason why people have a higher IQ - which measures G - which is a physical attribute of the mind/neural system.


The physical correlates with g that are best understood are; stature (.1 to .3), head size and brain size (.1 to .25), myopia (.20 to .25), frequency of alpha brain waves, latency and amplitude of evoked brain potentials, rate of brain glucose metabolism and general health. It is clear that g is some product of human evolution. Of the above body size has been shown to be an extrinsic variable because of within family studies- in other words it’s simply due to the fact that more intelligent people marry taller partners rather than taller people being actually more. The rest are hypothesized as intrinsic correlates of g- in other words they probably physically influence g (for example siblings with myopia are smarter on average than their siblings without myopia). Electro chemical activity of the brain shows amazing correlations. For example, when subjects were placed in a room and told to relax those with higher levels of g showed more complex brain wave patterns and a higher natural brain alpha frequency. When a clicking is heard subjects with higher amounts of g shoed shorter latencies (faster neural action) more peaks and troughs (more zero crossings within a specified epoch), greater complexity (longer “string” measure) of AEP waves, lesser intraindividual variability (greater consistency), smaller amplitude in response to expected stimuli (more efficient expenditure of neural energy) as shown by the positron emission tomography scan studies. Correlations with these AEP variables and IQ typically range between .3 and .6. When subjects were injected with radioactive glucose and then took an IQ test (Raven Advanced Progressive Matrices), while being PET scanned, cerebral glucose metabolism found that higher scoring subjects use less brain energy than lower scoring subjects during the IQ test. So g is related to efficiency of neural activity involved in information processing and problem solving. Left handed people have been found to test more often at extremes of the IQ test than right handed people. General health or physical wellbeing has been found to correlate with IQ at .381 (while there’s only a .076 correlation between health and socioeconomic status) The heritability of IQ is estimated at .4-.5 in children, .6-.7 in young adults, and .8 by later in life.
^Arthur Jensen G-Factor

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32441

[Queen B]

I haven't done a Mensa test yet, but I did an IQ test in the school, where I scored high.
But I don't want to brag about it, since I don't know how reliable it is.
However, I m planning to take the Mensa test this November, so I ll let you know about the outcome

[SaxonCeorl]

No, that's for vain people in pursuit of validation. You can correlate any standardized tests you've taken to determine IQ.

[Oreka Bailoak]

I'd never make the Mensa program. My SAT score (V+M) correlates with an IQ of 120 but I'm not sure how reliable that SAT:IQ chart is. My IQ on a free internet test was 115.

The WAIS IQ test is the official mainstream test and I tied to get a free e-copy yesterday but can't seem to find one. I guess the only way to get a copy is through the local book store/amazon. The test is harder and very different than the SAT or free internet tests.

(some free internet tests set one standard deviation above the average at 115 and others about 130)