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Slycooper
07-19-2012, 11:06 PM
I know there was flemish settlement in the central islands of the Azores.

The Lawspeaker
07-19-2012, 11:32 PM
Actually... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azores#Settlement)

Catrau
07-20-2012, 04:21 PM
I don't know if it was in São Miguel but yes there were Dutch settlements in the Azores. I will have to find out in which islands. I'm sorry Tuan but I can't do that now. I'll search for it later. There were also French settlements of people from Brittany and from those at least one was in the northwestern shores of São Miguel there are even place names referred to Brittany as Bretanha.

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/1Catrau/Bretanha.jpg

Catrau
07-20-2012, 09:40 PM
Actually... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azores#Settlement)

Ok, I see you also manage to discover the Azores.
So there were a lot of your fellow Dutch man and in several islands of the central group.

azzie2351
07-24-2012, 04:01 AM
there were a lot of your fellow Dutch man and in several islands of the central group.

Indeed. I'd say that all the azoreans living in the central group, particularly those in the "triangle" (Faial, Pico, São Jorge) have at least some flemish blood in them. There are also several family names with flemish origin, mine being one of them.

A link for those interested:
http://abemdanacao.blogs.sapo.pt/331296.html (portuguese)

For the others:
Brum - Bruym
Bulcão - Buscamp
Dutra - Hurtere
Grotas - Groot
Rosa - Roose
Arnequim - Jannequim
Bruges - Bruges
Among others.

It can be hard to find precise information.

Catrau, if you find anything interesting please share. I would be interested in knowing.

Sikeliot
07-24-2012, 04:08 AM
I have met people with the surnames St. Pierre, Goulart, Bettencourt, and Dumont who came from Sao Miguel.

But I would wonder if these surnames rather than Flemish have a Walloon origin.

azzie2351
07-24-2012, 04:32 AM
I have met people with the surnames St. Pierre, Goulart, Bettencourt, and Dumont who came from Sao Miguel.

It can sometimes be hard to pin-point with certainty their origin, but according to the link that I posted above, Bettencourt is french and has it's origins in a family that arrived from Picardie. Their descendants are particularly numerous in the island of Terceira.

Goulart is flemish I think having it´s origins in Van Gaert.

Regarding the other two I really can't say for certain

Ouistreham
07-24-2012, 11:52 AM
It can sometimes be hard to pin-point with certainty their origin, but according to the link that I posted above, Bettencourt is french and has it's origins in a family that arrived from Picardie. Their descendants are particularly numerous in the island of Terceira.

Goulart is flemish I think having it´s origins in Van Gaert.

Goulard is Breton and as such has spread over most of Western France:

http://www.geopatronyme.com/cgi-bin/carte/nomcarte.cgi?nom=goulard&image.x=0&image.y=0

Catrau
07-24-2012, 07:42 PM
Goulard is Breton and as such has spread over most of Western France:

http://www.geopatronyme.com/cgi-bin/carte/nomcarte.cgi?nom=goulard&image.x=0&image.y=0

goulart can be found in the main land. but these people might have migrated here from the islands.

Gratis
08-02-2012, 10:22 PM
Yes there was, and you can see it in the population.