What's Your Y-DNA Haplogroup?

[Rocinante]

Yeah, them. Gypsies are the descendants of some shit-tier Indians with very little Steppe ancestry, so they're mainly H.

Shit-tier :lol: nice word. I didn't know that actually, i think gypsies are punjabs or something like that right?


R-Z93 is pretty rare in Europe to begin with. In the case of most West Euros, it's probably much more likely to be either Jewish or Gypsy than Scythian.

I sorta agree. Z93 could entered way after the BA with scynthians but also some iranian-related and dravidian-related peoples.

[Leto]

Shit-tier :lol: nice word. I didn't know that actually, i think gypsies are punjabs or something like that right?

Yep, their South Asian part is something like low caste Northern Indians. But they also have European and West Asian admixture. It's a wild fucking mix.

[Leto]

https://i.imgur.com/7MpsG66.png
https://i.imgur.com/nSj1Xdj.png
https://i.imgur.com/HfbMlWP.png
Thanks. Your African is not totally miniscule. You're about 1/16 Black. Now raise your fist for all da brothas and sistas out there :cool:
https://scontent.fhel3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/49781278_2949404065084992_5003844037522751488_n.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=85a577&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_eui2=AeGHHEj4EnKCKve_rOvQZTBrJZ0SwsulKIMlnRLCy 6Uogys5vxF2bIvN9gUSARZJyijCQsqiKfLs3-MRKl6Gkx7_&_nc_ohc=H-ff8t2u-XgAX9494Dx&_nc_ht=scontent.fhel3-1.fna&tp=14&oh=11356d5b9d01269ba42dead7f5b7df65&oe=5F436305

[hmaohma78]

Thanks. Your African is not totally miniscule. You're about 1/16 Black. Now raise your fist for all da brothas and sistas out there :cool:
https://scontent.fhel3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/49781278_2949404065084992_5003844037522751488_n.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=85a577&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_eui2=AeGHHEj4EnKCKve_rOvQZTBrJZ0SwsulKIMlnRLCy 6Uogys5vxF2bIvN9gUSARZJyijCQsqiKfLs3-MRKl6Gkx7_&_nc_ohc=H-ff8t2u-XgAX9494Dx&_nc_ht=scontent.fhel3-1.fna&tp=14&oh=11356d5b9d01269ba42dead7f5b7df65&oe=5F436305

Lol as expected came out balanced mestizo
Can't say I identify with being black since none of my family show African ancestry, but hey it's part of my ancestry so I am gonna accept it just like the rest of my ancestry

[Leto]

Lol as expected came out balanced mestizo
Can't say I identify with being black since none of my family show African ancestry, but hey it's part of my ancestry so I am gonna accept it just like the rest of my ancestry
It's alright if you are Mexican, I was just trolling a bit. I think to be considered "black" one needs to look like one, at least vaguely, or have a black parent or some very recent ancestors. 1/16 of anything is too small an amount IMO.

[Chaos One]

I'm a fucking I2a2a1 :picard1:

https://i.imgur.com/Oo2gmXX.png

[Leto]

I'm a fucking I2a2a1 :picard1:

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Oo2gmXX.png
Native European :cool:

[Chaos One]

Native European :cool:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Rocinante]

I'm a fucking I2a2a1 :picard1:

https://i.imgur.com/Oo2gmXX.png

Cromagnons.

[Leto]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Calm the fuck down, in America del Sur you are white, don't take my word for it - ask your local BLM chapter what race you are :D

[Rocinante]

Calm the fuck down, in America del Sur you are white, don't take my word for it - ask your local BLM chapter what race you are :D

According myself and members of BLM, i am a legit negro american. No kidding.

[Chaos One]

Calm the fuck down, in America del Sur you are white, don't take my word for it - ask your local BLM chapter what race you are :D

:runs:

I mean, that fucked my agenda here.

[Leto]

According myself and members of BLM, i am a legit negro american. No kidding.
I doubt you have legit nigger blood

Share your Dodecad K12b coordinates please. For the members' spreadsheet.

[Chaos One]

I doubt you have legit nigger blood

Share your Dodecad K12b coordinates please. For the members' spreadsheet.

Well, I do have. From 4% using that calculator with Sahara numbers (which moved almost entirely my SSA into Sahara - makes sense since my background is very probably Hausa) to 14% at some places. I do prefer my nMonte numbers (7%), but 10% would be fine at all.

[Leto]

:runs:

I mean, that fucked my agenda here.


Well, I do have. From 4% using that calculator with Sahara numbers (which moved almost entirely my SSA into Sahara - makes sense since my background is very probably Hausa) to 14% at some places. I do prefer my nMonte numbers (7%), but 10% would be fine at all.
Well, one thing is clear to me - you don't have actual Central Asian. Back when your grandparents were born, there was most likely not a single Uzbek or Tajik living in Brazil.

[Chaos One]

Well, one thing is clear to me - you don't have actual Central Asian. Back when your grandparents were born, there was most likely not a single Uzbek or Tajik living in Brazil.

Well, like I said, my family didn't came directly to Brazil, as it seems. They moved from South Asia before.

With my new Genera test numbers I actually get 1% SE Asian all the time + 2% or 3% South Asian, which is interesting.

[Leto]

Well, like I said, my family didn't came directly to Brazil, as it seems. They moved from South Asia before.

With my new Genera test numbers I actually get 1% SE Asian all the time + 2% or 3% South Asian, which is interesting.
Portuguese Indian maybe? That's still not Central Asian though. Uzbeks and Indians are extremely different from each other.

[Figaro]

R1a1a1 pastoralists unite!

[Chaos One]

Portuguese Indian maybe? That's still not Central Asian though. Uzbeks and Indians are extremely different from each other.

That's the problem, I don't have any possible match with Indians. In terms of South Asia, only Burushos and Pashtuns.

[Polak]

What are the origins of R1a strain (CTS3402) and U5a2c?

[Rocinante]

I doubt you have legit nigger blood

Share your Dodecad K12b coordinates please. For the members' spreadsheet.

Gedrosia 4.62 Pct
Siberian 0.50 Pct
Northwest_African 4.49 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 36.75 Pct
North_European 24.75 Pct
South_Asian 0.12 Pct
East_African 0.42 Pct
Southwest_Asian 7.10 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 19.82 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.43 Pct

I have legit negro, i am not kidding my friend, i don't consider myself white since 1 month ago. There you have my results.

[Leto]

Gedrosia 4.62 Pct
Siberian 0.50 Pct
Northwest_African 4.49 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 36.75 Pct
North_European 24.75 Pct
South_Asian 0.12 Pct
East_African 0.42 Pct
Southwest_Asian 7.10 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 19.82 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.43 Pct

I have legit negro, i am not kidding my friend, i don't consider myself white since 1 month ago. There you have my results.
Then lemme call you a Jigaboo. xD I find this word fucking funny, used it here once and one member freaked out even though he is zero black and trolls a lot himself.

[Adamm]

Gedrosia 4.62 Pct
Siberian 0.50 Pct
Northwest_African 4.49 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 36.75 Pct
North_European 24.75 Pct
South_Asian 0.12 Pct
East_African 0.42 Pct
Southwest_Asian 7.10 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 19.82 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.43 Pct

I have legit negro, i am not kidding my friend, i don't consider myself white since 1 month ago. There you have my results.

Are you serious or just joking?

[Polak]

Gedrosia 4.62 Pct
Siberian 0.50 Pct
Northwest_African 4.49 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 36.75 Pct
North_European 24.75 Pct
South_Asian 0.12 Pct
East_African 0.42 Pct
Southwest_Asian 7.10 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 19.82 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.43 Pct

I have legit negro, i am not kidding my friend, i don't consider myself white since 1 month ago. There you have my results.

These are my Dodecad K12b results, I get the same amount of SSA on pretty much every calculator. And I'm pretty much full Central/Eastern Euro afaik.

1 North_European 57.87
2 Atlantic_Med 25.02
3 Caucasus 11.8
4 Southeast_Asian 1.91
5 Gedrosia 1.22
6 Sub_Saharan 1.17
7 Southwest_Asian 0.43
8 East_Asian 0.43
9 Siberian 0.15

For a Southern Euro your results are not impressive.

[Ion Basescul]

I2a1

19
3.31%


arkas (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?21354-arkas),
Armatus (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?7175-Armatus),
Ayetooey (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?22172-Ayetooey),
bained (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?3215-bained),
Barry W. Buckley (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?27823-Barry-W-Buckley),
Bosniensis (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?12321-Bosniensis),
cosmoo (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?15975-cosmoo),
DedPerded (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?27760-DedPerded),
Ion Basescul (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?18253-Ion-Basescul),
KanasKrum (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?27885-KanasKrum),
Light (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?16239-Light),
Nihtgenga (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?2061-Nihtgenga),
Nikša (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?23923-Nik%9Aa),
PaleoEuropean (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?24285-PaleoEuropean),
ph2ter (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?23700-ph2ter),
SergioSergius (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?18975-SergioSergius),
Stearsolina (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?10664-Stearsolina),
Vlatko Vukovic (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?18701-Vlatko-Vukovic),
WillyWonka (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?19953-WillyWonka)


Surpised by only 3%. Put us in a reservation or something.

[Rocinante]

These are my Dodecad K12b results, I get the same amount of SSA on pretty much every calculator. And I'm pretty much full Central/Eastern Euro afaik.

1 North_European 57.87
2 Atlantic_Med 25.02
3 Caucasus 11.8
4 Southeast_Asian 1.91
5 Gedrosia 1.22
6 Sub_Saharan 1.17
7 Southwest_Asian 0.43
8 East_Asian 0.43
9 Siberian 0.15

For a Southern Euro your results are not impressive.

That is just a tiny amount you have there, is noise. I am more negro than any southern european, that is for sure, is colonial slavery in Venezuela what explain my results.


Are you serious or just joking?

No bro, i am way serious here. Just look at my results, i am not white, i am partly white but not white at all.


Then lemme call you a Jigaboo. xD I find this word fucking funny, used it here once and one member freaked out even though he is zero black and trolls a lot himself.

You can, go ahead. I never get offended by insults agains't my black/mulato part. You whites are kind of funny anyways.

[Defcon2]

Gedrosia 4.62 Pct
Siberian 0.50 Pct
Northwest_African 4.49 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 36.75 Pct
North_European 24.75 Pct
South_Asian 0.12 Pct
East_African 0.42 Pct
Southwest_Asian 7.10 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 19.82 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.43 Pct

I have legit negro, i am not kidding my friend, i don't consider myself white since 1 month ago. There you have my results.

I more Negro-med and gipsy than you, but less arab.

Gedrosia 4.76 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 5.38 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 48.68 Pct
North_European 22.14 Pct
South_Asian 2.11 Pct
East_African 1.00 Pct
Southwest_Asian 4.14 Pct
East_Asian 0.15 Pct
Caucasus 9.99 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.66 Pct

[Rocinante]

I more Negro-med and gipsy than you, but less arab.

Gedrosia 4.76 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 5.38 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 48.68 Pct
North_European 22.14 Pct
South_Asian 2.11 Pct
East_African 1.00 Pct
Southwest_Asian 4.14 Pct
East_Asian 0.15 Pct
Caucasus 9.99 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.66 Pct

There won't be any white spaniard like you than win me in Negro-Meddish. Your negro is noise, your indo-aryan might be real though.

[Polak]

There won't be any white spaniard like you than win me in Negro-Meddish. Your negro is noise, your indo-aryan might be real though.

You are white as fuck as well lmao 10% admixture ain't shit considering you're Venezuelan.

[Rocinante]

You are white as fuck as well lmao 10% admixture ain't shit considering you're Venezuelan.

Thanks man but is not true, i am mulato, that is i am.

[Jana]

That is just a tiny amount you have there, is noise. I am more negro than any southern european, that is for sure, is colonial slavery in Venezuela what explain my results.

His results arent necessary noise. I personally don't believe in noise above 1% especially if it is consistent on different calcs.
He's distantly Jewish and Jews do score minor Sub-Saharan/Negroid. Ofc full Jews get as little as he does, but it is in realm of possibility trough recombination he inherited that 1% SSA despite his Jewish ancestry is very distant and minor.

[gixajo]

I more Negro-med and gipsy than you, but less arab.

Gedrosia 4.76 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 5.38 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 48.68 Pct
North_European 22.14 Pct
South_Asian 2.11 Pct
East_African 1.00 Pct
Southwest_Asian 4.14 Pct
East_Asian 0.15 Pct
Caucasus 9.99 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.66 Pct

My father is more Moor than you. :eek:

SouthWest Asia is refered to India or Arabia?

Population
Gedrosia 3.66 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 6.67 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 46.60 Pct
North_European 22.61 Pct
South_Asian 0.32 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.57 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 13.72 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.87 Pc

[Rocinante]

My father is more Moor than you. :eek:

SouthWest Asia is refered to India or Arabia?

Population
Gedrosia 3.66 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 6.67 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 46.60 Pct
North_European 22.61 Pct
South_Asian 0.32 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.57 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 13.72 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.87 Pc

More related to Arabia.

[Chaos One]

lol you guys fighting for 1% SSA when I'm at least 7%

[Defcon2]

My father is more Moor than you. :eek:

SouthWest Asia is refered to India or Arabia?

Population
Gedrosia 3.66 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 6.67 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 46.60 Pct
North_European 22.61 Pct
South_Asian 0.32 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.57 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 13.72 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.87 Pc

Your father already stood out on other calculators by a Middle Eastern percentage above average, but the African total is lower.

[Polak]

His results arent necessary noise. I personally don't believe in noise above 1% especially if it is consistent on different calcs.
He's distantly Jewish and Jews do score minor Sub-Saharan/Negroid. Ofc full Jews get as little as he does, but it is in realm of possibility trough recombination he inherited that 1% SSA despite his Jewish ancestry is very distant and minor.

This is interesting, why do Jews get more SSA than Europeans?

[gixajo]

Your father already stood out on other calculators by a Middle Eastern percentage above average, but the African total is lower.

And he is R1a Z282 as I am ;)

I will have to put a turban on my avatar photo.

[Chris596]

This is interesting, why do Jews get more SSA than Europeans?

I've noticed I also get more SSA than Hungarians or basically any Eastern European. Usually between 0.4% and 0.7%, probably not a coincidence. And I also have some Jewish ancestry so I guess it's because of that.

[Jana]

This is interesting, why do Jews get more SSA than Europeans?

It's from their Levantine/Semitic ancestry. Levantines and Arabs do score minor SSA. Much of it is relatively recent, but not all necessarily.
There's a Afro-Asiatic language family and E1b hg connecting Semites and Africans.

They could have aquired some SSA during their captivity in Egypt. Just speculating.

[Longbowman]

It's from their Levantine/Semitic ancestry. Levantines and Arabs do score minor SSA. Much of it is relatively recent, but not all necessarily.
There's a Afro-Asiatic language family and E1b hg connecting Semites and Africans.

They could have aquired some SSA during their captivity in Egypt. Just speculating.

There was no captivity in Egypt. Other Levantines get 4-5% so it doesn't need further explanation.

[Polak]

There was no captivity in Egypt. Other Levantines get 4-5% so it doesn't need further explanation.

Well I doubt it appeared out of thin air.

[Jana]

There was no captivity in Egypt.

What?

[ShieldWolf]

There was no captivity in Egypt. Other Levantines get 4-5% so it doesn't need further explanation.


What?

Archaeologists haven't found any evidence that the pyramids were built with slave labor and no evidence of specific Jewish participation. They seem to have been built as an Egyptian community project.

[Jana]

Archaeologists haven't found any evidence of slave labor in the building of the pyramids and no evidence of Jewish participation. They seem to have been produced as an Egyptian community project.

I am referring to events described by Biblical Old Testament.

[ShieldWolf]

I am referring to events described by Biblical Old Testament.

Yes, I understand, but the archaeological evidence disputes that account. I still believe the biblical story, personally.

[Polak]

Archaeologists haven't found any evidence that the pyramids were built with slave labor and no evidence of specific Jewish participation. They seem to have been built as an Egyptian community project.

But that begs the question where the SSA admixture came from.

[ShieldWolf]

But that begs the question where the SSA admixture came from.
The small SSA admixture came from northeast Africa up into the Levant.

[Longbowman]

I am referring to events described by Biblical Old Testament.

This did not occur.

If it did occur it would still be illogical to think the Jews picked up SSA. Coptic Egyptians are only 6-7% SSA on average and that is today, after significant geneflow from Nubia and beyond for 4,000 years. Archaeogenetic studies prove ancient Egyptians were even less SSA, on average. Modern Ashkenazim are 2-3% SSA and Sephardim are 3-4%. The likelihood is ancient Egyptians were barely more SSA than this. For the Egyptians to have turned the Jews from 0% SSA to 5-6% SSA (since halved by European admixture) the ancient Israelites would have had to have been about 85% Egyptian.

But like I say, it's nonsense.

[Dr_Maul]

I am J2b2 sub J-YP91, pure conqueror lineage

https://i.imgur.com/XCaXsu2.png

https://i.imgur.com/890eZfZ.jpg

[Rethel]

There was no captivity in Egypt. Other Levantines get 4-5% so it doesn't need further explanation.

Was, was. Even your atheistic cogoy, David Rohl, proved this beyond any doubt. Listen to his lecture about Exodus and New Chronology of pharaos, which even in old chronology fits perfectly to the verbal meaning of the duration of being in Egypt, which he missed, being focused on new dating of evrything.

[Leto]

Why the fuck have you come back after two years? I'm not happy about that.

[Rocinante]

Best haplos are: R1b, J2, O2 and Q3.

[Ford]

Best haplos are: R1b, J2, O2 and Q3.

Correction: R1b and N1a

[Rocinante]

Correction: R1b and N1a

N1a is cool, i like Finland

[Frowning Man]

For me, the most preferred haplogroups are G2, J2 and probably I. Especially G2a1, when I wanted to know my haplogroup, I hoped that I would have exactly G2a1.

[Leto]

N1a is cool, i like Finland
Isn't it perhaps the most hated country by the TA Spanish community?

[Leto]

For me, the most preferred haplogroups are G2, J2 and probably I. Especially G2a1, when I wanted to know my haplogroup, I hoped that I would have exactly G2a1.
Are you going to take a test? You can order FTDNA or MyHeritage if you live in Russia.

[Frowning Man]

Are you going to take a test? You can order FTDNA or MyHeritage if you live in Russia.

I already took this test a few years ago, probably 3 years ago. I had some problems with ordering a test to Russia in these companies. They didn’t deliver the tests to Russia, or there was something else. As a result, I made a test in an ordinary Russian company. The most superficial test for determining the haplogroup, without details.
I want to order this test again and another autosome test.

[Leto]

I already took this test a few years ago, probably 3 years ago. I had some problems with ordering a test to Russia in these companies. They didn’t deliver the tests to Russia, or there was something else. As a result, I made a test in an ordinary Russian company. The most superficial test for determining the haplogroup, without details.
I want to order this test again and another autosome test.
They must have told you "100% Gruzin" :D
If you already know your Y DNA, then I would recommend FTDNA.

[Rocinante]

Isn't it perhaps the most hated country by the TA Spanish community?

Not by me, also you have to be a total dick to hate a peaceful country like Finland. I prefer Lapland.

[Frowning Man]

They must have told you "100% Gruzin" :D
If you already know your Y DNA, then I would recommend FTDNA.

Hopefully.
I must be 100% Georgian.
Everything speaks about it.
I must have 0% Europe, 0% Middle East, 0% Asia, 0% North Caucasus and other Caucasians and 100% Georgians, 100% CHG.

[Leto]

Hopefully.
I must be 100% Georgian.
Everything speaks about it.
I must have 0% Europe, 0% Middle East, 0% Asia, 0% North Caucasus and other Caucasians and 100% Georgians, 100% CHG.
Well, Georgians are not exactly 100% CHG. They have other influences like Anatolian and European.

[Leto]

Not by me, also you have to be a total dick to hate a peaceful country like Finland. I prefer Lapland.
I thought they disliked it because it's very light with distant East Eurasian influence and culturally radically different from Spain.

[Frowning Man]

Well, Georgians are not exactly 100% CHG. They have other influences like Anatolian and European.

Maybe I am the one who will have 100% CHG and the one who will not have either Anatolian or European influence.:)
I’m not an eastern Georgian, but a northwestern one. That is, the most not mixed and isolated.

[Rocinante]

I thought they disliked it because it's very light with distant East Eurasian influence and culturally radically different from Spain.

I think you are generalizing a bit, only one said that he hates finns, i think the rest don't. Actually the most hated european country by the spanish users is Italy, there are 2 members that had said that they dislike them.

[Leto]

I think you are generalizing a bit, only one said that he hates finns, i think the rest don't. Actually the most hated european country by the spanish users is Italy, there are 2 members that had said that they dislike them.
Don't you all share his view? I don't want to name the user cause I totally ignore him and never quote him.

[Rocinante]

Don't you all share his view? I don't want to name the user cause I totally ignore him and never quote him.

No, of course not.

[mitalit]

The most hated European countries in Spain are England and France. Why Finland? haha

[Longbowman]

Who hates a country just because it's different to theirs? Really, most xenophobes hate their immediate neighbours - England and France, England and Scotland, France and Germany, etc.

[Melki]

According to Morley, I'm U-152.
But according to Geneanet, I'm R-L20

Noff told me the second one is a subclade of U-152, isquite rare and could originate from Latvia, which would be more plausible since my father's family originally came from Prussia (probably Germanized Slavs like most East Germans)

[Melki]

DP

[Madonna]

Hello

My son is R1a Z 287 , mtDNA - v7a (mine mtDNA)
My father is R1b Z2103, mtDND - k1c1f (mine paternal grandmother mtDNA)

[IrisSelene]

Sadly, havent tested my brother or my uncle yet

Enviado desde mi CLT-L09 mediante Tapatalk

[RatCat]

G-L1266 -- North Caucasus and Georgia

[Fraisod]

My Y-Dna haplogroup is T-CTS8402.
My parents were born in two small country towns in La Mancha, where their families had lived apparently for many generations.
As I've read T is rare in Europe, around 1% of the total population, but on Spanish territory, it is found at higher rates in some parts of Iberia, and 10% in Malaga, Cadiz (cities probably founded by Phoenicians) & Ibiza where Phoenicians also settled at some point.
There is also the is is also the idea (from Geno 2.0) T spread from the Fertile Crescent with agriculture, spreading West into Europe & East & South; it is 5% in Lebanon, and it peaks in the Horn of Africa - 15% in Somalia, etc (founder effect).
I am curious to know what other members have this haplogroup and where they are from.

[Teutonski]

I1

Ottar,Dick, me, Ethel, Stears, Carlitos way, raedwald

A list of the biggest psychos on TA

[Kyp]

R-Z2122 - The Iranic branch of the aryan R1a-Z93: Either Aryan or Scytho-Sarmatian

[gixajo]

My Y-Dna haplogroup is T-CTS8402.
My parents were born in two small country towns in La Mancha, where their families had lived apparently for many generations.
As I've read T is rare in Europe, around 1% of the total population, but on Spanish territory, it is found at higher rates in some parts of Iberia, and 10% in Malaga, Cadiz (cities probably founded by Phoenicians) & Ibiza where Phoenicians also settled at some point.
There is also the is is also the idea (from Geno 2.0) T spread from the Fertile Crescent with agriculture, spreading West into Europe & East & South; it is 5% in Lebanon, and it peaks in the Horn of Africa - 15% in Somalia, etc (founder effect).
I am curious to know what other members have this haplogroup and where they are from.

Cambian tu subclado por otro cercano o equivalente, pero parece que lleva en la península desde la edad de hierro (al menos):

https://i.imgur.com/tCJGWkc.png

https://i.imgur.com/BWjtWWR.png

https://i.imgur.com/1astujz.png

In the Yfull tree, people who have it are mostly from Europe, but your subclade is not there:

https://www.yfull.com/mtree/T2b/

[Fraisod]

Cambian tu subclado por otro cercano o equivalente, pero parece que lleva en la península desde la edad de hierro (al menos):

https://i.imgur.com/tCJGWkc.png

https://i.imgur.com/BWjtWWR.png

https://i.imgur.com/1astujz.png

In the Yfull tree, people who have it are mostly from Europe, but your subclade is not there:

https://www.yfull.com/mtree/T2b/

It's true - when I did the "Geno 2.0" test, they labelled my subclade with a different number: T-CTS 6280 -- mapped here as Broze-Age Macedonia/Bulgaria.
Thank you :)

[Beo242]

I have a strange situation:
I did a DNA test and first they threw me not my kit with the name of another user
Then they threw me "my account" with the haplogroup R1a, and when I uploaded the data, I got r1b u106
https://sun9-38.userapi.com/impg/NYm0suLy6HEu3lqMC-9FH86Jxkrrt_YG_CD3mQ/wBb8wCgHmO4.jpg?size=1080x330&quality=96&proxy=1&sign=2dbe0b20327d3402868884046aa64810&type=album
I want to make another dna test to see another results
Maybe 23andme can gives me an answer

[PaleoEuropean]

C-6ha9D

[PaleoEuropean]

Who hates a country just because it's different to theirs? Really, most xenophobes hate their immediate neighbours - England and France, England and Scotland, France and Germany, etc.


punk ass Canadians and Maxicans

[PaleoEuropean]

I have a strange situation:
I did a DNA test and first they threw me not my kit with the name of another user
Then they threw me "my account" with the haplogroup R1a, and when I uploaded the data, I got r1b u106
hum
I want to make another dna test to see another results
Maybe 23andme can gives me an answer

Try Morely

[Ülev]

C-19

[Beo242]

Try Morely

I'm thinking of something new dna test than using the old ones
When i will come to Germany i will use the whole DNA genealogy stuff which i could find(provided that the borders will be open after covid lockdown)

[Beo242]

Try Morely

I'm thinking of something new dna test than using the old ones
When i will come to Germany i will use the whole DNA genealogy stuff which i could find(provided that the borders are open)

[PaleoEuropean]

I'm thinking of something new dna test than using the old ones
When i will come to Germany i will use the whole DNA genealogy stuff which i could find(provided that the borders are open)

This is pretty accurate and free though, just as good as 23 imo.

https://ytree.morleydna.com

[Beo242]

I had an error on morley, but nevgen helped me
https://sun9-37.userapi.com/impg/OyLINBq_G7oyhtKQNrhTsTSGld_M7WG5teHwqQ/D9BUohWoEsc.jpg?size=272x300&quality=96&proxy=1&sign=dcbe5601c853779d4555cada58c84c3e&type=album
Idk, maybe they had a mistake in calculation of results

[Beo242]

it's better to try morley with a new function of extracting Y-DNA from autosomal tests when i do another one

[PaleoEuropean]

What are the origins of R1a strain (CTS3402) and U5a2c?

Most likely pre-Slavic Uralid, found in Mesolithic Europe though.

[PaleoEuropean]

This is interesting, why do Jews get more SSA than Europeans?

Because they mixed over time with Yemenite Jews who colonized Africa and later were partially colonized by Aksum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himyarite_Kingdom

[Rokhan]

I'm R-FT62738.

[Rethel]

Most likely pre-Slavic Uralid, found in Mesolithic Europe though.

:picard2:

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Mine is E-Z21018 - a sub-group of the E1b1b subclade of E1b-M123

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-E-M123.gif

[Longbowman]

Mine is E-Z21018 - a sub-group of the E1b1b subclade of E1b-M123

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-E-M123.gif

Highly based.

[alexmegas777]

https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-M92/

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Highly based.

Highly indeed.

[Rokhan]

I'm R-FT62738.

My new haplogroup is R-FT190318.

[JamesBond007]

R1b-z253 :

England : 10.7%

Cornwall England : 22.2 %

Devon : 9.7 %

Ireland : 12.8%

Scotland : 5.8%

Wales : 4.8%

Scandinavia : 18.9%

etc....

[Andullero]

R1b (R-U152).

[Rædwald]

https://i.postimg.cc/vZFtTgZt/download.png

https://i.postimg.cc/0yYdwk6R/L233.png

https://i.postimg.cc/CKvvRhtM/115ucvbea7951.jpg

I-Niqqaz

[Ayyleid]

R-L2

The one most common around the Alps.

[Arūnas]

N1c
(I wish)

[Slavic Italian]

R-Z31744. Formed in Belarus.

[RenaRyuguu]

idk like I tried to guess it but alas I'm a female so I don't carry it. I guess I have to ask my half brother to actually do a DNA test....that will be awkward since I don't really talk to him. oh well I do wanna know finally

[El_Jibaro]

R1b-L21.

Soy irlandés.

[SouthDutch7991]

A sub-clade of R-M269 > L21 > DF13 > Z251 that is most commonly found in Lancashire, N. Yorkshire, and Cumbria.

[HelloGuys]

I am E1b1b ---> E-M81---> E-PF2546

So it seems that I am Sephardic Jewish lol

[MandM]

E-FT186965

[Dick]

Cursed I1 that will become extinct one day, scattered across Europe just like the pleb manwhore seed that it came from

[Carpatz]

Cursed I1 that will become extinct one day, scattered across Europe just like the pleb manwhore seed that it came from

I'm here if you need me bro

[HectorOfTroy]

r1b, from british isles to spain/france

[Ayetooey]

I2 but honorary N1.

[Hauber]

I2a2b, I found serveral match on 23andme with different surname, kind of funny

[Geni_kameni]

E-FT186965

Kako da znam koja sam haplogrupa? Može negde da se ubaci raw dna pa ti kazu?

[MandM]

Kako da znam koja sam haplogrupa? Može negde da se ubaci raw dna pa ti kazu?
https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal
Mislim da ovde mozes

[Tongio]

I am J2b2 sub J-YP91, pure conqueror lineage

https://i.imgur.com/XCaXsu2.png

https://i.imgur.com/890eZfZ.jpg

Lol for real? Thats a god damn rare subclade, are u on Yfull? Would you bother to tell where you ancestor was from?

[hazmatnik]

Paternal Y E-BY148067, maternal grandpa Y E-FT61303. Not so common but interesting branches.

[hazmatnik]

My paternal HG estimate after YFULL update. Two Avar samples came under E-BY4573:

https://i.postimg.cc/Z5BZvs8V/4573.jpg (https://postimg.cc/4Ygjr5F9)

[Viminacium]

Y-Haplogroup: J-Z40772*
Mt-Haplogroup: H1-f2d1*

[Jingle Bell]

E-L515

[Beo242]

R1a-Z284
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?369490-Beo242-Haplogroup
But i will retest in another company

[hazmatnik]

I got banned by smurf on anthrogenica for something he saw its a problem, so i will post here.

My maternal subclade got new member from Napoli. And even with FTDNA matches counted we are pretty isolated.

https://i.postimg.cc/Zq1Lp76r/Untitled-2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/jW4Nrhg5)

It is very interesting because he aligns good with my maternal aunt autosomal matches but now question is how far away in the past autosomal services go, most likely much more than 500 years.

https://i.postimg.cc/RhmQbWsh/irena.jpg (https://postimg.cc/34LvkxHQ)

[chinshen]

R1b-L23

[MandM]

I got banned by smurf on anthrogenica for something he saw its a problem, so i will post here.

My maternal subclade got new member from Napoli. And even with FTDNA matches counted we are pretty isolated.

https://i.postimg.cc/Zq1Lp76r/Untitled-2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/jW4Nrhg5)

It is very interesting because he aligns good with my maternal aunt autosomal matches but now question is how far away in the past autosomal services go, most likely much more than 500 years.

https://i.postimg.cc/RhmQbWsh/irena.jpg (https://postimg.cc/34LvkxHQ)

Most interesting map, how did you get it if a may ask

[Viquol]

R1B

[hazmatnik]

Most interesting map, how did you get it if a may ask


Collected every match from 23andme, MH, Ancestry and FTDNA who has family tree or who put places of origins of their ancestors. Wrote hundred of messages too.

I have maps for both my aunts and me. This is our combined map (keep in mind we share some matches). Gusinje and Tuzi are for some reason our very hotspot. There are new closer autosomal arrivals from those places almost every month.

https://i.postimg.cc/QdBB3L01/kombi.jpg (https://postimg.cc/MnSZ7Lkp)


I'm working on my grandparents matches too. Pretty interesting crew for some of them.

[-{Floor}-]

Collected every match from 23andme, MH, Ancestry and FTDNA who has family tree or who put places of origins of their ancestors. Wrote hundred of messages too.

I have maps for both my aunts and me. This is our combined map (keep in mind we share some matches). Gusinje and Tuzi are for some reason our very hotspot. There are new closer autosomal arrivals from those places almost every month.

https://i.postimg.cc/QdBB3L01/kombi.jpg (https://postimg.cc/MnSZ7Lkp)


I'm working on my grandparents matches too. Pretty interesting crew for some of them.

What do you think of the E-V13 in Hungary ?

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1R_jpaS0H5UqKinPpJc7b3PWqyCI&ll=45.191794182369755%2C20.910178766286467&z=6

[DrWh033]

I2a2-->I-CTS1977
I am from central Greece-Thessaly

[hazmatnik]

What do you think of the E-V13 in Hungary ?

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1R_jpaS0H5UqKinPpJc7b3PWqyCI&ll=45.191794182369755%2C20.910178766286467&z=6

Not sure yet but im very interested, since three Avars belonged to my paternal HG E-Y20805 and lower branch E-BY4573.

One option is that they lived somewhere in E Hungary/Carpathian basin and practiced cremation.
Origin of EV13 is still sort of obscure and i believe that different branches had different story.

[majevica]

E-Y142744

[Abti]

this one (https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/A00/)

[tk'es]

J-M67 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-M67/)

[Abti]

J-M67 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-M67/)

Hey, that’s the same as me.

[tk'es]

Hey, that’s the same as me.




my bro

[Katarzyna]

this one (https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/A00/)

Very nice group

Here is one of my exes who is also J2

https://ibb.co/dk7Rzg0

[Gallop]

Apparently, and for the time being, I entered what we now call Spain through Girona in the year 400 of the Christian era, but these are the dates of the Visigothic invasion.

Gallop arriving in Spain.
https://i.postimg.cc/NMgD9Pq3/DNAYev22400ce.jpg

[Voskos]

Meternal side grandpa J2 M319. paternal T1a2b

[Dick]

Very nice group

Here is one of my exes who is also J2

https://ibb.co/dk7Rzg0


Meternal side grandpa J2 M319. paternal T1a2b

Yo, Qatar zyna, here’s another future ex for you.

[Voskos]

Yo, Qatar zyna, here’s another future ex for you.

Lol, a Serb who lives in the Anglosphere and an antisemite on top of that. You're enough of a joke yourself, no need to reply to that.

Anyway strong stockholm syndrome, IbrahI1movic.

[Brandon]

I'm British, well Northern English, and I have a rare marker for England. It's R-S1491, probably less rare in continental Europeans then in the British or Irish populations. So I wonder how I got such a marker? It's derived from the subclade L2 which is further derived from the subclade U152 (which is mostly seen in continental Europe). It could be from one of the many migrations that occurred in this island, but alas I do not know which one :/

[Feiichy]

I'm British, well Northern English, and I have a rare marker for England. It's R-S1491, probably less rare in continental Europeans then in the British or Irish populations. So I wonder how I got such a marker? It's derived from the subclade L2 which is further derived from the subclade U152 (which is mostly seen in continental Europe). It could be from one of the many migrations that occurred in this island, but alas I do not know which one :/

I can tell you. It's a continental Celtic marker from central Europe/Alpine region.

[cmt160]

Mine is E1b1b1b1 I think.

Here is the https://cladefinder.yseq.net/ prediction of it
Says E-L19 as closest fit but also E-M81 and E-PF2431. Next best prediction was E-M35.

I don't know much about haplogroups but basically E-M35 is the father clade of E-L19, and E-L19 is the father clade of E-M81. So I'm guessing E-PF2431 is the "son" clade of E-M81.

So my most specific haplo would be E-PF2431 I'm thinking. So basically just E-M81 yeah.

125119

[Beowulf]

Mine is E1b1b1b1 I think.

Here is the https://cladefinder.yseq.net/ prediction of it
Says E-L19 as closest fit but also E-M81 and E-PF2431. Next best prediction was E-M35.

I don't know much about haplogroups but basically E-M35 is the father clade of E-L19, and E-L19 is the father clade of E-M81. So I'm guessing E-PF2431 is the "son" clade of E-M81.

So my most specific haplo would be E-PF2431 I'm thinking. So basically just E-M81 yeah.

125119

Hello and welcome to the forum!

The red color means that you got negative for that SNP and green the opposite i think the same applies to MorleyDNA

So you're probably negative for E-M81.

[hazmatnik]

New arrivals in my maternal Y clade make things rather interesting

https://i.postimg.cc/R05vKPY7/Untitled.png (https://postimg.cc/18BxZKsX)

[PaulieVanZant]

R1b - U106, more specifically R-Z304.
Most common in England, after that in `murica and in Germany. Guess it`s Proto - Anglo-Saxon (if that makes sense) in origin?

[Melkiirs]

R1b - U106, more specifically R-Z304.
Most common in England, after that in `murica and in Germany. Guess it`s Proto - Anglo-Saxon (if that makes sense) in origin?

It it your paternal line that stems from Lower Saxony?

[PaulieVanZant]

It it your paternal line that stems from Lower Saxony?

I know, it easily would make sense then. But nope.

[Luke35]

I am N-Y17696, as per a panel test I did on YSEQ.

Here is the current tree, it appears that my subclade is dominated by Poles. My paternal line is from Northeast Hungary.

https://i.imgur.com/1ZlJwo1.png

[Kess]

R1b - U106, more specifically R-Z304.
Most common in England, after that in `murica and in Germany. Guess it`s Proto - Anglo-Saxon (if that makes sense) in origin?

Yeah, it makes sense. Being a transracial English would also make sense for you instead of Finnic.

[Annie999]

R1b-U152 (my father's). Highest frecuency in northern Italy, where my ancestors came from.

My husband is R1b-L21 , it plots mostly in Britan, but there's also one hot spot in Basque country, his actual ancestry.

[axel.aleman]

E-M78

Is semitic Y-DNA

[hazmatnik]

Current situation in my paternal subclade. There are also Romanian, North Macedonian and two more Serbs under E-BY4570 not listed.

Interesting clade too, but confusing.

https://i.postimg.cc/Mpmz95pj/Untitled.png (https://postimg.cc/68Ts3dR9)

[cmt160]

So my YDNA is probably the father clade of E-M81 (so E-L19), not E-M81 itself. thats cool to have such an ancient haplo tbh
like technically it is E-Z827 (E-V257/L19).
125196
I find it funny that wikipedia says it was found on both a cantabrian and a southern spaniard, because im southern spaniard myself with a cantabrian surname (meaning my patrilineal heritage is from there most likely, since its toponymic as well :D )

[Brandon]

I can tell you. It's a continental Celtic marker from central Europe/Alpine region.

I see, could've got to Britain multiple ways then. I'm gonna get a FamilyTreeDNA kit to further explore my results, perhaps crack the code. Thanks for your reply :)

[Dick]

https://i.postimg.cc/SR3SLPYv/IMG-0206.jpg

[sacha]

My father's Y-DNA is J-M166, don't think I will ever know my mother's side because it was already hard to coordinate sending that test in, not sure if I can manage to get another done. No exact information on the split off but the parent group split we have a map for

https://i.ibb.co/J3bnXWJ/Screenshot-2023-12-18-at-9-50-47-AM.png (https://ibb.co/qJ4BbLQ)
https://i.ibb.co/ckWz0r7/Screenshot-2023-12-18-at-9-52-06-AM.png (https://ibb.co/9cxR6rC)

[PaulieVanZant]

It it your paternal line that stems from Lower Saxony?

Ok, my paternal grandma (finally) opened up about my mystery gramps. Seems like he is from Wolfsburg (Lower Saxony) after all, not from Hungary like previously stated. So yes it makes perfectly sense now.

[HelloGuys]

E-M183 (Berber origin).

[Svevlad]

J1-ZS9949. Very old Balkan clade, related to Roman remnants. Presumably arrived into Europe via assimilated CHG-related men within the PIE

[Kirgonix]

R-BY95973 - Portuguese Line from R1B Bell Beakers


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYMmjoTPDyI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTuvmwIYIwc

[tk'es]

asia


https://i.ibb.co/BL7f3QP/Jrvuu-Dtaz-EU.jpg

[BillMC]

I'd love to get a test done, hopefully soon. I've seen a study that showed that R1b and I1 are by far the most common among Afrikaner men.

Not surprising, considering the fact that they are also the most common haplogroups in NW Europe.

[BillMC]

I've been searching for matches on genetree, and all my matches seem to revolve around people who's main paternal ancestor go back to England, Scotland, Norway, Denmark, and Sweden, all R1b1b2 M269, the matches 72% and greater, my highest match is 80%.

So maybe my R1b1b2 M269 is a Germanic rather than Celtic one?

I do not match with any of the M222 Irish folk and such.

A Germanic R1b would also go along with my Yorkshire ancestry.

Germanic R1b is R1b-U106. According to Eupedia's R1b tree R1b-M269 is much older than that. Originating in the Caucasus. R1b and R1a generally represent the Yamnaya of the Russian Stepp. Before the Yamnaya settled in the Stepp they were in the Caucasus region. After moving to the Stepp the branched out in all directions. R1b mostly going into western and central Europe, but with some going south into Africa. R1a going south east into western Asia and west in eastern Europe:

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml

[Kess]

R-CTS9219

[Loki]

Not surprising, considering the fact that they are also the most common haplogroups in NW Europe.

Yeah but I turned out to be E-V13, which is rarer in NW Europe (but not absent).

It was unexpected, but now I consider it to be interesting.

[BillMC]

Yeah but I turned out to be E-V13, which is rarer in NW Europe (but not absent).

It was unexpected, but now I consider it to be interesting.

The Eupedia site has a map showing the distribution of haplogroup E-V13 in Europe, the Middle East & North Africa. It can be up 5% in northern and western Europe going up to 20% in central Europe reaching a maximum of 40% in SE Europe.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml#V13

[Pepa]

Ev13

[Brandon]

The full sequence of my Y-DNA is as follows: R-M207>M173>M343>L754>L761>L389>P297>M269>L23>L51>P310>L151>P312>Z46516>ZZ11>U152>L2>Z49>Z142>Z51>L562>Z57>S1491>Y23962>Y23964>Y23824>FT92823>FTB66216>MF52967>FTE46171

According to FamilyTreeDNA, my Y-DNA has linked me to families bearing the surnames Keith and Gourlay. These families are both Scottish families that descend from Normans that settled in Scotland. The Keith connection is because they descend from my Y-DNA but due to mutation aren't exactly the same (mutating roughly between 15th-16th centuries). The Gourlay connection is further down the sequence as it is the parental Y-DNA of my haplogroup.

Either way, I believe that my Y-DNA is in fact from either Norman or some other continental origin.

[Leto]

FTDNA has recently given me a badge that says R-YP350. The full tree appears to be the following:
R1a>R-M459>R-M198>R-M417>R-Z645>R-Z283>R-Z282>R-Z280>R-Z92>R-Z685>R-YP270>R-YP351>R-Y9081>R-YP350

[Eurafricanid]

My haplogroup follows this line: R1b>R-L754>R-L761>R-L389>R-P297>R-M269>R-L23>R-L51>R-P310>R-L151>R-P312>R-Z46516>R-ZZ11>R-U152>R-Z56>R-BY3548>R-Z43>R-Z46

[ChromoChatter]

I have the Scandinavian variant of R1a. I recently took the Y111 test and my closest matches were all in Scandinavia and a few in the British isles. Interesting because my roots are in southwestern Finland.

[thegreenmaple]

I'm Korean and I got my Y-DNA haplogroup as C2b1a2a (C-F1319) according to MorleyDNA and Yseq at first. But when I looked into my raw data, SNP 'F9765' was also positive and SNP 'F3777 (the parallel one of F9765)' was negative, so the most detailed one I can tell from the data is C2b1a2a2 (C-F9765). I used the program named 'DNA Kit Studio' to know my mtDNA haplogroup instead of Jameslick. The result was 'G2a5' and I also investigated my raw data, it was same (mtDNA haplogroup prediction is available in V2.8 and not in V2.9, the latest version).

[Aelfwig]

Im J2b-L283, from Maine in the United States. My Paternal heritage is Pennsylvania German (Rhineland), I'm guessing my ancestor was some Illyrian soldier enlisted as a Roman Soldier who had kids near the border of Rome and Germania.

[Slavic Italian]

R-Z31744. Formed in Belarus.

This is outdated info.

[djipon]

I-L621

[Flashball]

R-M269
>R-L23
>R-L51
>R-L52
>R-PF6538
>R-L151
>R-U106
>R-Z19 (23andme)
>R-FGC79182 (R-Z18)
>R-ZP87 (R-Z17; FTDNA)
>R-BY18864
>R-FT287755
>R-FT288677
>R-FTA85250
>R-Y420629 (Yfull Nebula, me and my brother).

[Figaro]

R-L365 descendant of R-M417…Polabian/Pommeranian subclade that became Germanified in time (deep paternal side is from Meck-Pom, DE)

[Athalafuns]

R-M167, known as the Catalan haplogroup, is associated with the Urnfield Culture (Proto-Hallstatt) of the Central European Late Bronze Age.

[Brandon]

My Full Sequence: R-M207>M173>M343>L754>L761>L389>P297>M269>L23>L51>P310>L151>P312>Z46516>ZZ11>U152>L2>Z49>Z142>Z51>L562>Z57>S1491>Y23962>Y23964>Y23824>FT92823>FTB66216>MF52967>FTE46171

R-FTE46171 is my Haplogroup (according to Big-Y). I joined the "Keith Project" as I show genetic similarities with the members descending from the Aberdeenshire/Kincardineshire (Scotland) or the New Brunswick (Canada/Ireland) line, this line is supposedly descendants of either a Daniel Keith of New Brunswick or the Earl Marischals' of Scotland through the Aberdeenshire line.

Since my family has no paternal connections to Canada or Ireland, I assume that I could be an Illegitimate descendant of the Keith family/Clan. As I match very well with an individual of the Keith family, that has his earliest ancestor as "William Keith, 3rd Earl Marischal Keith".

And if this is true I must somewhat descend from "Hervey de Keith", who is described as a "Scoto-Norman adventurer and nobleman".

[Pepa]

My haplogroup is ev13

[Pepa]

E-V13

[Pepa]

R1b j2b

[Lux Tenebras]

Illyrian. Something that albanians or how they call themself sheeptars are not.

[Capsian20]

Hello everyone im new here
I got Y-DNA E-V257 also know E-PF2431
My terminal subclade is E-PF2431 < Y10561 <A30032

[BATAVIANO999]

E-V13 is also found at 15% frequency among kurdish people, 2% in libyans and around 25% in West anatolia. But why would be so bad being grouped with Middle easterners???, like, your subclade is really closer to Middle easterners than the average russian or any other generic R1b european.

[hazmatnik]

While no news in my paternal clade, my maternal grandpa clade is picking up in diversity with more North Macedonians popping up

https://i.postimg.cc/BZPLzpdw/Screenshot-20241206-114109-Chrome.jpg (https://postimg.cc/0rxyMY5p)

[Radegast]

R1b :/

[Pohjanpoika]

Hi, i'n new here. According to FTDNA Family Finder, my haplogroup is N-L665.

[DoomFit]

E-V65

[Dick]

I1000% Serbian

https://i.imgur.com/XocVVj8.jpeg

[Ellethwyn]

E1b1b1 subclade E-M78. I had my dad test back in 2011.

[Grace O'Malley]

https://i.postimg.cc/yY9v2QBQ/ydnamatch.png

This is for my brother. The match is of French origin and because it is M222 I suspect there is an NPE on their side especially as it is a branch that is only recent.

[Ylla]

My dad tested as E-V13.

[hazmatnik]

Albanian branch of our small sect finally and officially got its own subclade after years. I know for two years about its existence, but no one wanted to take deep test beside my friend. Interesting fact is that all of them are muhajirs and concentrated around Podujevo. All of them claim they are Gashi (or Gashi i Gurit). Unfortunately, guy from Vanovce was killed by car two years ago.

https://i.postimg.cc/vBFK5LVZ/Untitled.jpg (https://postimg.cc/NyDbcXD3)

[gixajo]

https://i.imgur.com/34lT1Bi.png

[Dick]

Samples from Visigoth tombs in Spain were recently uploaded to Yfull.


The hispanic-visigothic necropolis of “Estevillas-Virgen de la Torre” was excavated between the years 2010-2011. His area was about 9.067 m² and archaeological structures were excavated and well documented, of which are tombs. Within them remains of up to 894 individuals have been excavated and studied. It is the biggest visigothic necropolis excavated in Spain.

https://i.imgur.com/bNZc3Yp.png

My subclade is downstream from the sample, like everyone else in this tree of course. This indicates that this branch extended throughout Europe via Germanic tribes.

[hazmatnik]

Our sister branch under E-BY4526 got really crowded and inconclusive. New guys are Soulioti and more Montenegrins. Interesting branch.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZKkMCXW0/Untitled.png (https://postimg.cc/4n550LbT)

[hazmatnik]

While no news in my paternal branch, my maternal branch on FTDNA now displays two clear regions: British Isles and Balkan

https://i.postimg.cc/hv8PgjCp/Untitled.png (https://postimg.cc/PvxkQtnw)

[Gannicus]

I'll make a dedicated thread to share everything.

J2a1

Terminal SNP

141491

Ancient Sicilian Night Clubbing:


141492

[Grace O'Malley]

https://i.postimg.cc/yY9v2QBQ/ydnamatch.png

This is for my brother. The match is of French origin and because it is M222 I suspect there is an NPE on their side especially as it is a branch that is only recent.

The match I have with the person of French origin has now been acknowledged as an NPE or a name change. This was fairly obvious to me. This is the branch that we descend from.

Cenel Eoghain Y DNA Project
Descendants of Eógan mac Néill d 465


Cenél nEógain and the Donegal kingdoms, AD 800–1200
Brian Lacey

Cenél nEógain, a royal dynasty from Inishowen in Donegal, defeated its previously more successful opponent, Cenél Conaill – also from Donegal – at the battle of Clóitech in AD 789. All changed following that battle. From then on, the Cenél nEógain kingdom, known as ‘Ailech’, spread across Counties Derry, Tyrone (giving that territory its name), into Armagh, and dominated the whole territory of Ulster. It also attained, alternately, the higher kingship of Tara. After surnames appeared c.1000, the Mac Lochlainns and O’Neills became Cenél nEógain’s leading families. Meanwhile, the defeated Cenél Conaill struggled to maintain some degree of prestige following the emergence of a previously minor, upstart kingdom, originally from west Donegal, the Síl Lugdach. By c.1200 the O’Neills and the leading Síl Lugdach family, the O’Donnells, were in position to rule the whole of Ulster until the English conquest c.1600. This book outlines in detail how that situation came about.

Brian Lacey, archaeologist/historian, specializes in the north-west of Ireland, AD 500–1200. A former university lecturer, museum director and head of the Discovery Programme (archaeological research institution), he is author of about fifteen books and many research papers.

https://www.fourcourtspress.ie/books/2025/cenel-neogain-and-the-donegal-kingdoms-ad-8001200

[hazmatnik]

Not confirmed but this might be subclade of Petrovic of Montenegro dynasty, separate branch of our E-BY4526 separated some 3100 years ago. If thats the case E-BY4526, pretty minor subclade among Serbs will have two dynasties very important for Serbs and Montenegrins and their modern statehood inside pretty unimportant subclade for Serbs:

https://i.postimg.cc/W3Q2KT7L/Untitled.png (https://postimg.cc/CBsTnytm)

[celticdragongod]

According to FTDNA, I am R-FGC41927. This is part of the R-L21 group. The R-FGC41927 paternal line was formed when it branched off from the ancestor R-FGC41932 and the rest of humankind around 1400 CE. This date is an estimate based on genetic information only. With a 95% probability, the ancestor R-FGC41932 was born between the years 1112 and 1586 CE. The most likely estimate is 1383 CE, rounded to 1400 CE. The man who is the most recent common ancestor of this line is estimated to have been born around 1650 CE. This date is an estimate based on genetic information only. With a 95% probability, the most recent common ancestor of all members of haplogroup R-FGC41927 was born between the years 1385 and 1847 CE. The most likely estimate is 1665 CE, rounded to 1650 CE.

[Norse-Gael]

Hello Grace O'Malley, I was reading about my surname linked to King Niall last night and it's claimed the clan probably originates here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Érimón

Has this came up in your research or do you have any theories? Regards

[Gannicus]

E1b1b1 subclade E-M78. I had my dad test back in 2011.

That’s a cool Y-haplogroup. I think that haplogroup has been found in some ancient Egyptian remains and is associated with Natufians. Someone can clarify if I’m wrong. I’m more familiar with my Y line.

[Luke35]

N1a

https://i.imgur.com/4C8sje1.gif

[Feiichy]

I2 Dinaric Slavka Taliban on both sides.

[majevica]

https://i.postimg.cc/gjJfFR8s/B.png (https://postimages.org/)

My subclade is actually Eastern Gaul, not Balkan

[Grace O'Malley]

Hello Grace O'Malley, I was reading about my surname linked to King Niall last night and it's claimed the clan probably originates here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Érimón

Has this came up in your research or do you have any theories? Regards

That's mythology and not factual. I would advise you get the Big Y done if you have not already done so and join one of the many group projects available there. That's why I know about my paternal ydna.

Some of the projects I'm in at FTDNA are.

British Isles by Country

Cenel Eoghain Y DNA Project
Descendants of Eógan mac Néill d 465

Dal Cuinn Teóra Connachta and the Uí Néill

Ireland ydna

R L21 and Subclades

R M222 and Subclades

You might find this a useful read is you are M222.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ob5oHxW3YQ4Ez6ramjO-AYhd-rRnk0Z9/view

[~Elizabeth~]

If my father ever tested he never told me since we are estranged. Years ago I saw someone online with the same old surname with Y-DNA "I" something.

Years ago my father told me it is Czech. Paper trail says it is Slovak. I asked Google AI Overview tonight and it says, "In Croatia, about 80 people with the surname (omitted) live today, mostly concentrated in Zagreb and Djakovo".

[Highwayman]

Upgrading from 111 to big 700, I can’t wait for the results.


Here’s what they are in the meantime:

https://i.ibb.co/mVHWJdcT/IMG-2379.jpg (https://ibb.co/hJKzsrm9)
https://i.ibb.co/Q3gFzJCq/IMG-2380.png (https://ibb.co/S4jXW6d1)

[Highwayman]

This is my closest ancient match:


https://i.ibb.co/9kfgw45V/IMG-2390.jpg (https://ibb.co/9kfgw45V)




Villamagna 59:


https://www.exploreyourdna.com/sample/r59/italy-medieval-earlymodernsg.htm

[Grace O'Malley]

My brother has 2 rare connections although they aren't anything as rare as what Highwayman has.

https://i.postimg.cc/Znw3DMLR/Screenshot-2025-07-21-183458.png

https://i.postimg.cc/YC5FVgQ1/Screenshot-2025-07-21-183715.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Wp5kVxMp/Screenshot-2025-07-21-183906.png

[Beowulf]

https://i.postimg.cc/28MhNPhJ/Captura-de-pantalla-2025-07-21-124337.png (https://postimages.org/)

[Grace O'Malley]

https://i.postimg.cc/28MhNPhJ/Captura-de-pantalla-2025-07-21-124337.png (https://postimages.org/)

Yours looks really interesting Beowulf. Who is the President?

[Beowulf]

Yours looks really interesting Beowulf. Who is the President?

George Bush!

[Grace O'Malley]

George Bush!

Pretty impressive.

[Beowulf]

Maternal Grandpa:

https://i.postimg.cc/ZRn6SZ7G/Captura-de-pantalla-2025-07-21-125242.png (https://postimages.org/)

[gixajo]

Maternal Grandpa:

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How do you get that on FTDNA? I can't find it...

[Highwayman]

My brother has 2 rare connections although they aren't anything as rare as what Highwayman has.


Nice! My maternal grandfather’s side is a quarter New England puritans. For the Mayflower itself, Henry Sampson is an ancestor.


The rarity that’s showing for me is going by the more detailed haplogroup of my closest matches, we all seem to most likely descend from the same colonial American from Maryland/Virginia estimated to be 1650. I’m hoping my contribution could help add another split to the modern branches.


Here is the notable Irish military man I have, along with some facebook posts on the data.


https://i.ibb.co/LdQ0DL0P/IMG-2392.jpg (https://ibb.co/LdQ0DL0P) https://i.ibb.co/PvF11ctY/IMG-2381.jpg (https://ibb.co/PvF11ctY) https://i.ibb.co/nqNCh5tQ/IMG-2382.jpg (https://ibb.co/nqNCh5tQ)

[Gannicus]

141904 141905 141906 141907 just in case some of of haven’t seen my thread. A bit of a surprise considering my known recent ancestry

[Grace O'Malley]

Nice! My maternal grandfather’s side is a quarter New England puritans. For the Mayflower itself, Henry Sampson is an ancestor.


The rarity that’s showing for me is going by the more detailed haplogroup of my closest matches, we all seem to most likely descend from the same colonial American from Maryland/Virginia estimated to be 1650. I’m hoping my contribution could help add another split to the modern branches.


Here is the notable Irish military man I have, along with some facebook posts on the data.


https://i.ibb.co/LdQ0DL0P/IMG-2392.jpg (https://ibb.co/LdQ0DL0P) https://i.ibb.co/PvF11ctY/IMG-2381.jpg (https://ibb.co/PvF11ctY) https://i.ibb.co/nqNCh5tQ/IMG-2382.jpg (https://ibb.co/nqNCh5tQ)

Patrick Sarsfield is quite a prominent Irishman to share a ydna connection with. That's so great.


Patrick Sarsfield (born, Lucan, County Dublin, Ire.—died August 1693, Huy, Austrian Netherlands) was a Jacobite soldier who played a leading role in the Irish Roman Catholic resistance (1689–91) to England’s King William III. Sarsfield remains a favourite hero of the Irish national tradition.

His grandfather, Rory O’More, was a leader of an Irish Catholic uprising against the English in 1641. Sarsfield served in the army of King Louis XIV of France from 1671 to 1678, and, after the accession of the Catholic James II to the English throne in 1685, he helped James’s commander in Ireland, Richard Talbot (later earl of Tyrconnell), purge Protestants from the Irish army. When James was deposed by the Protestant William of Orange (later King William III) in 1688, Sarsfield accompanied James to France and then to Ireland.

During the early months of the Irish Jacobite war against William, Sarsfield distinguished himself as a cavalry commander and was promoted to major general. On July 1, 1690, William severely defeated the Jacobites in the Battle of the Boyne. Sarsfield rallied the beaten army, organized the defense of Limerick, and in August made a spectacularly successful attack on William’s artillery train at Ballyneety. He negotiated the final Jacobite surrender at Limerick (October 1691) and then joined Louis XIV’s army in the Spanish Netherlands, where he was wounded fighting the English at Neerwinden, near Landen, on July 29, 1693, and died a few days later. James had made Sarsfield earl of Lucan in 1691, but the title was recognized only by the Jacobites.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Patrick-Sarsfield

[Grace O'Malley]

Patrick Sarsfield is quite a prominent Irishman to share a ydna connection with. That's so great.



https://www.britannica.com/biography/Patrick-Sarsfield

I'm sure you are aware of this but for other people it might be interesting. Patrick Sarsfield's paternal side was English and his mother's side were Irish.


Originally of English descent, the Sarsfield family were wealthy Protestant Establishment and ultimately Catholic merchants, who settled in Dublin; Sir William Sarsfield was knighted by Queen Elizabeth I in 1566, reportedly for providing the Crown financial support during Shane O'Neill's rebellion. Sir William would have been the per-eminent "Palesman" at the time and was a member of the Established (Anglican) Church, as well as being loyal to the English Crown. He purchased Lucan Manor, a large estate to the west of Dublin, and Tully Commandery in County Kildare.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Sarsfield,_1st_Earl_of_Lucan

[Highwayman]

I'm sure you are aware of this but for other people it might be interesting. Patrick Sarsfield's paternal side was English and his mother's side were Irish.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Sarsfield,_1st_Earl_of_Lucan



Perhaps from or near Wales? E-v12 in the Isles seems to be Cambro-Norman. Particularly it is most associated with the Roche/Roach Norman family of Ireland, and the Prater/Prather family from Wiltshire England of the 1500s.


Top surnames of E-V12:


https://i.ibb.co/LbvCFrp/IMG-2393.jpg (https://ibb.co/Vr3v1xB)

[Beowulf]

How do you get that on FTDNA? I can't find it...

I'm sorry it took me so long to reply you, i'm starting to not get notefied whenever someone quotes me here again.

https://discover.familytreedna.com/

Put your own Haplogroup there.

[gixajo]

I'm sorry it took me so long to reply you, i'm starting to not get notefied whenever someone quotes me here again.

https://discover.familytreedna.com/

Put your own Haplogroup there.

Si eso ya lo conozco, pero no veo lo de "rare notable connections" y "rare ancient connections" por ninguna parte.

Tal vez como es una rama poco frecuente del R-Z280, simplemente no tengo.

[Beowulf]

Si eso ya lo conozco, pero no veo lo de "rare notable connections" y "rare ancient connections" por ninguna parte.

Tal vez como es una rama poco frecuente del R-Z280, simplemente no tengo.

En ese caso simplemente aun no se a encontrado a nadie famoso que tuviera el mismo haplogrupo que tú, supongo. :noidea:

[Katarzyna]

That thread is so enjoyable for me, especially since I am a single

[Feiichy]

That thread is so enjoyable for me, especially since I am a single

what happened with your marriage to a J2 Russian man?

[Katarzyna]

what happened with your marriage to a J2 Russian man?

Dissolved. He ended up being a j(2)erk

[rothaer]

Dissolved. He ended up being a j(2)erk

Lol to the j(2)erk.

I know what is divorced but what is dissolved? For a divorce in Germany you need a minimum of one year of separation.

[gixajo]

Lol to the j(2)erk.

I know what is divorced but what is dissolved? For a divorce in Germany you need a minimum of one year of separation.

Dissolved like ice dissolves in whiskey.

[Katarzyna]

Lol to the j(2)erk.

I know what is divorced but what is dissolved? For a divorce in Germany you need a minimum of one year of separation.

I mean by that separated

[Opie]

Dissolved. He ended up being a j(2)erk

Did he cheat on you?

[Rædwald]

My Y-DNA is I-L233, specifically I2a1a2a1a

Would like to do further testing, but I'm okay with it as is.

[Gannicus]

Dissolved. He ended up being a j(2)erk

0.0

Important question: Was he J2a or J2b? :P

[Flashball]

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y420629/

The most northern european haplogroup.

[Flashball]

"The most northern european haplogroup." = troll

Whatever, more precise here
https://i.ibb.co/sJWF4j6Z/image.png

[Nurzat]

YDNA hg: J-Z467 (subclade of J2a1b)

mtDNA hg: H14b


these are still too generic to be informative.

paternal side is west Ukrainian (Hutsul), maternal side is northeast Romanian (Moldovan).

[Katarzyna]

0.0

Important question: Was he J2a or J2b? :P
J2a, he had some distant Kavkaz ancestry

[Snorlax]

Pseudoscience, and nothing more.

According to haplogroups, Swedes and Finns (I1) are more closely related to Jews and Arabs (J1) than to Norwegians and Dutch (R1b).

The presence of (E1b) and (T) is proof that Europeans are not pure, and that pseudoscience should be taken for what it is.

[Highwayman]

Pseudoscience, and nothing more.

According to haplogroups, Swedes and Finns (I1) are more closely related to Jews and Arabs (J1) than to Norwegians and Dutch (R1b).

The presence of (E1b) and (T) is proof that Europeans are not pure, and that pseudoscience should be taken for what it is.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUydjN5eWw0NDM2MGp1OHowcnd1Mm9zd3h zZHo1dzBlYjZnZWtyMmdnNyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/oGO1MPNUVbbk4/giphy.gif


yDNA is going off of the shortest chromosome. It is extremely helpful, but it is an incomplete picture.

[Highwayman]

Lol to the j(2)erk.

I know what is divorced but what is dissolved? For a divorce in Germany you need a minimum of one year of separation.

In the US, divorce documents have the word, “dissolution” in the title of the paperwork. I assumed it was legally done and over with.

[Snorlax]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUydjN5eWw0NDM2MGp1OHowcnd1Mm9zd3h zZHo1dzBlYjZnZWtyMmdnNyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/oGO1MPNUVbbk4/giphy.gif


yDNA is going off of the shortest chromosome. It is extremely helpful, but it is an incomplete picture.

Why would I care of someone is R1b or E1b? If they are like me, it's okay already. Priority is ethnic and culture, not a small piece of genetic information.

Autosomal is important tho.

[Gannicus]

J2a, he had some distant Kavkaz ancestry

Well, I'm sorry a fellow J2a was a dick to you. Sorry Dick :P

[Gannicus]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUydjN5eWw0NDM2MGp1OHowcnd1Mm9zd3h zZHo1dzBlYjZnZWtyMmdnNyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/oGO1MPNUVbbk4/giphy.gif


yDNA is going off of the shortest chromosome. It is extremely helpful, but it is an incomplete picture.



Why would I care of someone is R1b or E1b? If they are like me, it's okay already. Priority is ethnic and culture, not a small piece of genetic information.

Autosomal is important tho.

It's not the whole story for sure. But it is a valuable clue when modeling autosomal admixture. It makes me wonder if there was some ancient Sicilian nightclubbing going on further back in my family tree.

I've seen it in G25 and qpAdm that I can be modeled with a pinch of detectable Near East spice. If I were Y-haplogroup R1b, R1a, I1, or I2, I'd dismiss it as extra ANF. Which, it could still be that, however, my Y-haplo does raise the suspicion.

We have to be honest it's literally your Dad, his Dad, and so on till you reach places like Italy, Greece et cetera. How cool is that!?

[Highwayman]

Why would I care of someone is R1b or E1b? If they are like me, it's okay already. Priority is ethnic and culture, not a small piece of genetic information.

Autosomal is important tho.

So what is your yDNA?

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

R1b-M269>PF7562

[Snorlax]

So what is your yDNA?

I don’t know, maybe R1b kind of the northwestern europeans have, or maybe I2, or maybe niggerish E1b or something, I don’t know and I don’t care. It doesn’t matter, all what matters in this subject is autosomal.

[Snorlax]

It's not the whole story for sure. But it is a valuable clue when modeling autosomal admixture. It makes me wonder if there was some ancient Sicilian nightclubbing going on further back in my family tree.

I've seen it in G25 and qpAdm that I can be modeled with a pinch of detectable Near East spice. If I were Y-haplogroup R1b, R1a, I1, or I2, I'd dismiss it as extra ANF. Which, it could still be that, however, my Y-haplo does raise the suspicion.

We have to be honest it's literally your Dad, his Dad, and so on till you reach places like Italy, Greece et cetera. How cool is that!?

You are interested in this just for fun and because you had the luck to have a not so common haplogroup if we also take your ancestry in the equation, and it’s fine.