Classify dark haired guy

[jerney]

Guess ethnicity too if you want? If you already know don't give it away ;)

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2170/54/117/585991574/n585991574_1397178_6151.jpg

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1761/54/117/585991574/n585991574_1149374_9257.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/811/022vi9.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4144/014ls5.jpg

[Loki]

He looks Southern European of sorts, could be Italian. :icon1:

[Allenson]

Pretty good example of an Atlanto-Mediterranean.

Spanish.

[Beorn]

Looks Persian with a dash of Fillipina/Japanese to me. ;):D

[Útrám]

Tall and robust gracile Mediterranean. Frenchman or a Spaniard?

[jerney]

Looks Persian with a dash of Fillipina/Japanese to me. ;):D

Nah, no Persian as far as I know ;)

[Útrám]

Ah, it was Rowan who he reminded me of.

http://www.peoplequiz.com/images/bios/rowan-atkinson.jpg-2757.jpg

[Turkophagos]

Looks Persian with a dash of Fillipina/Japanese to me. ;):D

Yes, these thick eyebrows look unaryan, reminds me of Lyoto Machida.


http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/811/022vi9.jpg


One can guess some negroid admixture, based on his ghetto monitor.

[jerney]

Yes, these thick eyebrows look unaryan, reminds me of Lyoto Machida.


http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/811/022vi9.jpg


He also must have some negroid admixture, based on his ghetto monitor.

Yeah because anyone with a non-northern phenotype shows signs of non-European admixture :rolleyes:

[Zyklop]

Pontid? Maybe Greek?

[Sol Invictus]

Dinaric/Keltic + Atlantid/Atlanto Mediterranid

I say Spanish Basque.

EDIT:

Or Breton is a good possibility.

[Sol Invictus]

Portuguese?

He's def Western in origin, I feel like I'm close.

[Heimmacht]

Turkish..

[The Lawspeaker]

Turkish..
He is too fair (skin color) for a Turk. I'd say Basque ?

[Loyalist]

Greek? Not so much based on his appearance, as he's ambiguously swarthy, but I think I see a visual clue in one of the pictures. I could be wrong though.

Knowing the OP he's probably English or something. :rolleyes:

[Heimmacht]

He is too fair (skin color) for a Turk. I'd say Basque ?

Turks can have an ivory white complexion, I have seen alot like them in my old neighbourhood, and they were fully turkish.

[Loki]

He is too fair (skin color) for a Turk.

This guy is a Turk:

http://cranfield99.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/boris_johnson_3.jpg

He has other nationalities in his lineage as well, but the striking blondism comes from his family's village in Anatolia.

[The Lawspeaker]

This guy is a Turk:

http://cranfield99.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/boris_johnson_3.jpg

He has other nationalities in his lineage as well, but the striking blondism comes from his family's village in Anatolia.
O.K... I didn't see that one coming. Wow looks I learned something new today. The guy could have been French !

[Laudanum]

He looks a bit Spanish, Italian, or maybe French to me.

[Thorum]

Egyptian.

[Laudanum]

Egyptian.

Yes, i believe he also could be Egyptian.:)

[Beorn]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/811/022vi9.jpg




In seriousness, the guy looks similar to my cousin on my father's side. So I would say VA got as close to my assumption.

[sturmwalkure]

Greek.

[SwordoftheVistula]

Bosnian?

[Aemma]

I bet that he is Anglo-Norman and that he goes by the nom de plume of 'chap' :p :D

[Rhobot]

I think that guy is Greek or Italian.
If not, he is Turkish or Spanish/Portuguese.

[jerney]

I bet that he is Anglo-Norman and that he goes by the nom de plume of 'chap' :p :D

chap does not look like a Southern European.

The guy is Greek and happens to go by the username Maniot here

[Loyalist]

chap does not look like a Southern European.

The guy is Greek and happens to go by the username Maniot here

I was right; the Olympiakos scarf in the background of the one picture gave it away.

http://i43.tinypic.com/wv5r4n.jpg

Be more careful next time. ;)

[jerney]

I was right; the Olympiakos scarf in the background of the one picture gave it away.

http://i43.tinypic.com/wv5r4n.jpg

Be more careful next time. ;)

You can tell him that. He asked me to make the thread using those pictures ;)

[Guapo]

Pretty good example of an Atlanto-Mediterranean.

Spanish.

That was my first impression too

[Vulpix]

I would have guessed Italian, French or Spanish :). The Greek fits too though :p.

[Tabiti]

I would guess anywhere in Southern Europe and even Serbia.
I don't know what is turkish about him, really...

BTW eyebrow development isn't a racial trait.

[Turkophagos]

You can tell him that. He asked me to make the thread using those pictures ;)

My mistake! ;)

Making the thread yourself resulted in a more reliable classification imo (since nobody had been biased knowing my ethnicity) which I think summarizes in "Atlanto-Pontid" and a pan-mediterranid look.

Thank you and those who replied.

[Loki]

My mistake! ;)

Making the thread yourself resulted in a more reliable classification imo (since nobody had been biased knowing my ethnicity) which I think summarizes in "Atlanto-Pontid" and a pan-mediterranid look.

Thank you and those who replied.

Nice to make your acquaintance Ro ... err I mean Maniot! :thumb001:

[lei.talk]

illustrating the difference between legal citizenship,
nationality, ethnicity, heritage, genetic potential
and actual phenotype/anthropological classification.

This guy is a Turk:

http://cranfield99.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/boris_johnson_3.jpg

He has other nationalities in his lineage as well,

but the striking blondism comes from his family's village in Anatolia.if this subject had black hair,
how many would draw a conclusion of "Turk"?

the origins of "his family's village in Anatolia" would be interesting.

[Guapo]

Apparently these two chicks are Turkish as well but you have to realize thet thousands of muslims from the Balkans fled to Ottoman Empire, which was multi-ethnic anyway, after independence and pogroms and so forth, others fled to Bosnia where it was still safe to be a muslim.Bosnia wasnt always a muslim majority. Anyway, the one on the right looks like Serbian actress Ivana Bozilovic. The origins of his village would be interesting to know.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/181006415_7308e45257.jpg?v=0

http://d.yimg.com/movies.aunz.yimg.com/2005/photos/main/39895.jpg

[Lenny]

This guy is a Turk:

http://cranfield99.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/boris_johnson_3.jpg

He has other nationalities in his lineage as well, but the striking blondism comes from his family's village in Anatolia.He is exactly one-eighth Turkish.

Striking blondism into full adulthood would have to have come from more than one out of eight lines of descent.

Nonetheless, there are blonde-"Turks", for sure, if that was the intended point.

The Ottoman Empire was totally multicultural, as all empires tend to be. I've read before that only ~20% of modern Turkish genetics comes from the original Central-Asian Turkic invaders.(The original Turkic speakers).

[Mc Queen]

He is a GREEK................

[Osweo]

Apparently these two chicks are Turkish as well but you have to realize thet thousands of muslims from the Balkans fled to Ottoman Empire,
All true, + the Janiseries.
But I'd stress the Cherkass/Circassian impact too. These lads from the Caucasus are often very fair, but adopted Islam to be different from their Georgian, Osset and Russian neighbours. When Islam seemed to have failed there, whole nations of them (see the Oubykh/Ubykh) left for Anatolia. Some are now rediscovering their ancestral culture I hear, but Turkey's monolithic ethnic policy hides them in the statistics. I hear some even ended up in Kosovo and Slavonic Macedonia, finally to return to the Caucasus in the 1990s!

Native Anatolia was of course not a complete stranger to a degree of blondism.

He is exactly one-eighth Turkish.
Aye, I couldn't be bothered butting in myself! :p

The Ottoman Empire was totally multicultural, as all empires tend to be. I've read before that only ~20% of modern Turkish genetics comes from the original Central-Asian Turkic invaders.(The original Turkic speakers).
I'd say even that's an overestimate.

[Óttar]

All true, + the Janiseries.

Damn, beat me to it. :P

Also one must take into account the appeal of blonde slave girls from the Baltic in Turkish harems.

[Osweo]

Damn, beat me to it. :P

Also one must take into account the appeal of blonde slave girls from the Baltic in Turkish harems.

Aye, but no need to go that further afield. Most were from up the Dnepr, Don and Danube.

[Brännvin]

Also one must take into account the appeal of blonde slave girls from the Baltic in Turkish harems.


Aye, but no need to go that further afield. Most were from up the Dnepr, Don and Danube.

I doubt it, it is more likely that the Varangians left their marks in the Cassandras ;)

Viking Warriors in Istanbul Left Their Marks in Hagia Sophia (http://www.globe-hoppers.com/viking-warriors-in-istanbul.html)

[Mc Queen]

Aye, but no need to go that further afield. Most were from up the Dnepr, Don and Danube.


Well, then it's more probable they were brunette sarmatians......

[Osweo]

Well, then it's more probable they were brunette sarmatians......

In the Middle Ages? We're talking about Slavonic girls here. Blondism was common among them as it still is there, and I imagine it sold best anyway. Poor girls. And it's STILL happening. :mad:

[Mc Queen]

In the Middle Ages? We're talking about Slavonic girls here. Blondism was common among them as it still is there, and I imagine it sold best anyway. Poor girls. And it's STILL happening. :mad:


Well, from what i've seen (in real life when i ived there, and from a massive number of unselected photos), amongst ethnic slavonics, the blondism is around 30-35% (from a pan-european standard of blondism). Noticeable but not incredible.

The bulk of population is chestnut haired (tonalities of brown etc.)

[Osweo]

Well, from what i've seen (in real life when i ived there, and from a massive number of unselected photos), amongst ethnic slavonics, the blondism is around 30-35% (from a pan-european standard of blondism). Noticeable but not incredible.

The bulk of population is chestnut haired (tonalities of brown etc.)
You're forgetting who you're talking to; that 'mousy' colour is very fair compared to myself! :p

[Inese]

Also one must take into account the appeal of blonde slave girls from the Baltic in Turkish harems.
:confused::confused: Turks was never in our Baltic countrys! :wink

[The Lawspeaker]

:confused::confused: Turks was never in our Baltic countrys! :wink
No THEY were not. But human trafficking also took place in earlier ages. Conquering armies also took home girls as loot and might have... "sold them on".

[Ibericus]

He looks catalan.

[Lábaru]

He looks catalan.


The foundation of the Aragonese rule over the duchy of Athens was to be the culminating achievement of the Almogavars. Although the duchy eventually fell to the Ottoman Empire, even today the King of Spain still holds the title of 'Duke of Athens and Neopatria'.


Is very possible that he has some Catalan/valencian/Aragonese blood :thumb001:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almogavars#The_battle_cry_of_the_Almog.C3.A0vers.2 8In_Catalan.29

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almog%C3%A1var

[Turkophagos]

Is very possible that he has some Catalan/valencian/Aragonese blood :thumb001:




Nope, they have Greek blood instead:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vEfDftHCbzY/RikTMpBBIJI/AAAAAAAAADY/I2LfjBmParw/s320/meurope.gif



He looks catalan.


Minus the negroid admixture.

[Cymel]

He looks Greek Cypriot

[Guapo]

What happened to Maniot anyway :confused:

[Sforza]

What happened to Maniot anyway :confused:

In disguise I guess :rolleyes:

[jerney]

Is very possible that he has some Catalan/valencian/Aragonese blood :thumb001:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almogavars#The_battle_cry_of_the_Almog.C3.A0vers.2 8In_Catalan.29

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almog%C3%A1var

His family isn't even from Athens

[Lábaru]

His family isn't even from Athens

No difference, the Almogavares were in more places of Greece.

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducado_de_Neopatria

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Halmyros

[jerney]

No difference, the Almogavares were in more places of Greece.

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducado_de_Neopatria

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Halmyros

The inhabitants of Mani are the direct descendants of the ancient Spartans. After the Romans took over Laconia, many of the citizens who were loyal to the laws of Lycurgus decided to go to the mountains of Mani with the rest of the Spartans rather than be in Achean or, later, Roman service.[81] Kassis claims that Maniots rarely mated with non-Maniots until the 20th century.[82]

According to Constantine Porphyrogenitus, the Maniots were not conquered by the Slavs and were descended from the ancient 'Romaioi'.[18] Historian David Howarth states: The only Greeks that have had an unbroken descent were the few small clans like the Maniotes who were so fierce, and lived so far up the mountain, that invaders left them alone.[83]

[Aviane]

He looks Greek Cypriot

Indeed he is what I've seen from alot of Greek Cypriots but also he can also be of Turkish blood.

[Guapo]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Mani_Flag_%28Greece%29.svg/800px-Mani_Flag_%28Greece%29.svg.png

[alzo zero]

Definitely Atlanto-Med and not much else as far as I can see.

[Freeroostah]

Greek

[Constantine13]

The inhabitants of Mani are the direct descendants of the ancient Spartans. After the Romans took over Laconia, many of the citizens who were loyal to the laws of Lycurgus decided to go to the mountains of Mani with the rest of the Spartans rather than be in Achean or, later, Roman service.[81] Kassis claims that Maniots rarely mated with non-Maniots until the 20th century.[82]

According to Constantine Porphyrogenitus, the Maniots were not conquered by the Slavs and were descended from the ancient 'Romaioi'.[18] Historian David Howarth states: The only Greeks that have had an unbroken descent were the few small clans like the Maniotes who were so fierce, and lived so far up the mountain, that invaders left them alone.[83]


Many were still pagan up to the 11th century too. My grandmother used to believe in weird water fairies and other such things, though maybe that's just a coincidence with some other explanation.

[Pontios]

Greek for sure. I can sense it. :lol:
Wow just noticed this thread is like 3 years old... :eek:

[KrashNick]

He can fit as Greek .

[Insuperable]

Its Turkophagos himself

[Roy]

Atlanto-Med

[Turkophagos]

Teenager:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/480582_10151289315441575_1043229154_n.jpg



20ies:


https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/215536_5186451574_6641_n.jpg



30ies, most recent:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/811/022vi9.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/2755_74919131574_4492876_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/13835_217692461574_1240702_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/8121_137309801574_3637920_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/39649_427290286574_4870419_n.jpg



Try to classify not based on the ethnicity...

[quaquaraqua]

lol the last photo screams greek but you can fit in italy

[Lábaru]

Med+South Cromagnoid can fit in Turkey.

[tEhSaint]

Cromagnoid with Mediterranid admixture. Fits pretty good as a Greek.

[Pontios]

Frappe in the morning, sitting outside, with white buildings all around you, probably staring at the sea... Can't get any more Greek-er than that. :lol: Only thing I don't see is a Komboloi. :lol:

[Constantine13]

LOL I just checked, and you're one of my "cousins" on 23andMe. I knew I recognized you from somewhere....






Teenager:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/480582_10151289315441575_1043229154_n.jpg



20ies:


https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/215536_5186451574_6641_n.jpg



30ies, most recent:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/811/022vi9.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/2755_74919131574_4492876_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/13835_217692461574_1240702_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/8121_137309801574_3637920_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/39649_427290286574_4870419_n.jpg



Try to classify not based on the ethnicity...

[jerney]

Looks like a Turk

[riverman]

French

[Styrian Mujo]

Romanian,Bulgarian,greek or Turk. But can pass in anywhere in southern europe.

[Hadouken]

looks italian imo

[Kastrioti1443]

looks like a syrian