Woman Being

[Hong Key]

[B]Woman Being
by Juleigh Howard-Hobson
From Counter Currents (http://www.counter-currents.com/)

“Why do women want to dress like men when they’re fortunate enough to be women? Why lose our femininity, which is one of our greatest charms? We get much more accomplished by being charming than we would by flaunting around in pants and smoking. I’m very fond of men. I think they’re wonderful creatures. I love them dearly. But I don’t want to look like one.”

Continue reading :
http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/woman-being/

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[TheNepenthe]

Why do women want to dress like men when they’re fortunate enough to be women?

Clothing codex is merely a social construct.

[Hong Key]

Clothing codex is merely a social construct.

Those who use words such as "clothing codex" and "social construct" are socially constructed 2nd generation communists who are anti White and pro White genocide.

[Talvi]

Those who use words such as "clothing codex" and "social construct" are socially constructed 2nd generation communists who are anti White and pro White genocide.

You are correct. Since we were born with our clothes on.

[Hong Key]

You are correct. Since we were born with our clothes on.

Perhaps you have a figure the size of a 12 year old boy but most women have breasts and wide hips. (one to make it eaisier to extract children from your womb and the other providing nutrition for your child). Which would dictate different clothing. And when men hunted wild game and protected the perimeter, (from enemies who would have rape/killed/enslaved you and your child) so you could have peace raising your children and watching after the chickens, goats and carrots, We needed different clothing then for various reasons. Yes including status.

So sure in a Post-Modern/ Post-Christian/ Post-Heterosexual/ Post-Man/ Post-Sanity/ Post-White world, whats the differnce? Who needs chivalry when all the women have been ass banged by the time they graduate jr high. In the multi colored/feminate/effeminate ,work force/society/household it doesn’t matter what your wearing when all you need is a vibrator/cell phone to call 911 or push abunch of buttons on a computer or you ask “would you like fries with that?"

[Behemot]

Skirt is older than pants,we should all wear it :D

And this is stupid.....to tell someone how to feel and how to dress :coffee:
Tutoring grown up people about what to wear......
And how does it always comes from men :picard1:

[Incel King]

Those who use words such as "clothing codex" and "social construct" are socially constructed 2nd generation communists who are anti White and pro White genocide.

Communism are not anti-White, you should take into account that ex-Communist Eastern European countries don't have or have very few non-White immigrants comparing with Western Europe. There weren't Blacks or Asians for ages of communist ragtime and you could more expect to be struck by lightning than see Black or Asian in Banjaluka, but now I see Asians every day. :(

[Behemot]

Where do you see Asians in Banja Luka ? :eek:

[Sultan Suleiman]

Where do you see Asians in Banja Luka ? :eek:

Kinezi :D

[PetiteParisienne]

I rarely wear trousers. Dresses and skirts are more comfortable and make me feel confident.

[Behemot]

Kinezi :D
Ma kakvi to......to ode cim nema vise posla,nemaju oni namjeru odomaciti se ovdje.....
Still,there are very few of them.....

[Sultan Suleiman]

I rarely wear trousers. Dresses and skirts are more comfortable and make me feel confident.

Now make Behemot understand that, she keeps talking nonsense that she want's to vote and to candidate for office... :(

Please make her see sense.

[Incel King]

Where do you see Asians in Banja Luka ? :eek:

They are Chinese and have shops where everything is cheap and have very bad quality.

[PetiteParisienne]

Now make Behemot understand that, she keeps talking nonsense that she want's to vote and to candidate for office... :(

Please make her see sense.

Let me go get my frying pan so I can spank her back into the kitchen.

[Sultan Suleiman]

Let me go get my frying pan so I can spank her back into the kitchen.

Can I watch?

[PetiteParisienne]

Can I watch?

Of course. :cool:

[Incel King]

Ma kakvi to......to ode cim nema vise posla,nemaju oni namjeru odomaciti se ovdje.....
Still,there are very few of them.....

That's a point, it's all because we were communist country, if we were liberal-democrat capitalist then here would be more Blacks than Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks together.

[Behemot]

They are Chinese and have shops where everything is cheap and have very bad quality.

Well ,the same situation is everywhere in B&H.....but they are usually stick to their shops,and you don't see them on streets ......at least I don't ,and as soon as the job is not getting well,they pack and leave to some other country.......they're similar to gypsies in that manner

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

I would never ever wear something has zipper on its back..i m not a baby and i hate needing someone to fix my dress..
I wear things which are practical and have pockets
i dont care ideology and i refuse to wear silly designs because they look nice cute whatsoever ..its not helping me running after bus
all stupid clothes made for women ,like corsets ,high heels ,mini skirts are in same category with burka or lotus foot..pasifying women
i m a hyperactive female and i need to move ,if its not comfortable i wont use it
i hate shirts moving up to my armpits when i raise my hand or skirts rotate all over when walk fast ..i m not a damn totem ...cloth is made for me i m not made for showing it off
screw the fashion..t shirt and cotton trousers are fine for me..rest can go dustpin!

its my life story-me against clothes
i usually buy same pair different colors ..and shopping is done for the season..no more shop torture ..(may be only female hates shopping)
except ethnic clothes and hats..my collectibles

[Barreldriver]

I rarely wear trousers. Dresses and skirts are more comfortable and make me feel confident.

How does winter time work? :D

[Behemot]

Ouch,my ass is burning hot already .....
I'll better run and make some burek
Silly me.....spreading my feminist propaganda :p:

OT :
I'm a girly girl with full closet of dresses and flower design accessories
,I wear them when I wish
I have some seriously frightening outfits that consist military boots ,black uniform style clothes and hats....also,wear them when I wish
In between jeans,T shirts ,sneakers and all sorts of sportswear

[PetiteParisienne]

How does winter time work? :D

Thick tights and cosy knit dresses! I live in boots.

[Sultan Suleiman]

Well ,the same situation is everywhere in B&H.....but they are usually stick to their shops,and you don't see them on streets ......at least I don't ,and as soon as the job is not getting well,they pack and leave to some other country.......they're similar to gypsies in that manner

You fools, every single shop they open actually contains a bunker which leads to their underground network tunnels from which troops from PLA will swarm trough the streets of major East European cities.

Have any of you asked your self why do you see so many China-shops in our suburban regions but you never see the Chinese in person any where else in city?

Your Liberal/PC programing doesn't allow you too see the truth... Open your mind maaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!

[Sultan Suleiman]

Ouch,my ass is burning hot already .....
I'll better run and make some burek
Silly me.....spreading my feminist propaganda :p:

Good girl... With more onions next time, your last burek nearly killed me with that low fat healthy west euro trash you keep putting in food. :mad:

[Barreldriver]

Thick tights and cosy knit dresses! I live in boots.

Aren't tights pants/britches/trousers though?

[PetiteParisienne]

Aren't tights pants/britches/trousers though?

Tights are just stockings that go over your bum instead of only knee or thigh-high. :)

[Incel King]

Well ,the same situation is everywhere in B&H.....but they are usually stick to their shops,and you don't see them on streets ......at least I don't ,and as soon as the job is not getting well,they pack and leave to some other country.......they're similar to gypsies in that manner

They have a lot job here, everyone when have to buy something go to Chinese shop, because they have everything and most important it's cheap. Besides they have children here and that children are technically domestic since they're born here and have our citizenships so don't think that they will just left us one day.

[Barreldriver]

Tights are just stockings that go over your bum instead of only knee or thigh-high. :)

If I was to sew my socks onto me underbritches those'd be tights?

[Behemot]

They have a lot job here, everyone when have to buy something go to Chinese shop, because they have everything and most important it's cheap. Besides they have children here and that children are technically domestic since they're born here and have our citizenships so don't think that they will just left us one day.
Ou shit :(
I don't remmember ever seeing a chinese kid over here (except kids from their diplomats here )
But,look at the bright side......the more social standard rises ,the less is need to buy cheep and bad stuff.......less job for asians :D
Now,I'm beeing too optimistic

[PetiteParisienne]

If I was to sew my socks onto me underbritches those'd be tights?

The darned sexiest tights I'd ever lay my eyes upon.

[Sultan Suleiman]

less job for asians :D


So much of your hippy single child liberal upbringing :rolleyes:

[Hong Key]

Communism are not anti-White, you should take into account that ex-Communist Eastern European countries don't have or have very few non-White immigrants comparing with Western Europe. There weren't Blacks or Asians for ages of communist ragtime and you could more expect to be struck by lightning than see Black or Asian in Banjaluka, but now I see Asians every day. :(

I said 2nd generation communists not 1st generation communists.
2nd generation communist/ 2nd GenCom is Pro White genocide.

1st Gen = Class War

Good Guys/Victims - working class/ proletariate/ lumpen proletariate/ unemployed

Bad Guys/Oppressors - ruling class/ bourgeoisie / managerial class/ capitalist/ industrialist/ royal class

Way to Victory - workers of the world unite, throw off the chains of our capitalist/ruling class and a socialist utopia we will have. We know how that turned out, socialist utopias are built on mass graves. Although Carnex has a point.

During WW1 something happened that cracked the foundation of 1st GenCom. Instead of the working masses uniting and revolting against there oppressors, what the Good Guys did was unite with the Bad Guys of there nation. And then killed other good guys of other nations. O shit, that wasn’t supposed to happened.

Other ideas had to be put into practice. Then comes Frankfurt school and the like.

2nd Gen = Race War

Good Guys/ Victims - Blacks/ browns/ yellow/ women/ homos/ transgender/ transsexual/ other perverts/ midgets/ retards/ fat people/ ugly people/ NAMBLA/ ......

Bad Guys/Oppressors - White Christian Males

Way to Victory - colored masses of the world unite, throw off the chains of the racist/homophobic/sexist white christian male. If we want to erase rasism we must erase the White race/ mass flooding of all White nations/ destroy the family unit/ effeminate males (for you foreigners that means cut off mens balls)/ etc./ created conflict between White men and everyone else………..

I knew a redhead lefty/liberal girl. She came into my work very distraught, she looks like she got kicked in the gut. She found out the Blacks voted against Homo marriage and she just could not understand how one set of Good Guys / Victims (the blacks) could go against another set of Good Guy/Victim class, there brother in arms (the homos) All the oppressed Good Guy/Victims are not supposed to be fighting each other, there supposed to be destroying there oppressors , the White Christian Male. And then all the colored/perverted masses will hold hands, sing and dance in a circle on top of white corpses and everything will be beautiful.

I wrote this fast, so I'll probably have to clean it up.

[Behemot]

So much of your hippy single child liberal upbringing :rolleyes:

Aham,I'm liberal for all the Bosnians and Herzegovinians :D
Enough from me........

[Hong Key]

“Once [white people] die, we should dig ‘em up, and kill ‘em again, bury ‘em, dig ‘em up, and kill ‘em again, and again, and again!” TACO

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/new-black-panther-declares-we-will-hunt-pink-aes-down-kill-em-dig-em-up-kill-em-again-again-again/

TACO is a common gangster name, meaning Taking All Crips Out but he changed it when he join the BPP. I met him once at an Anarcho/Punk Fest, nice guy.

[Hong Key]

Skirt is older than pants,we should all wear it :D

And this is stupid.....to tell someone how to feel and how to dress :coffee:
Tutoring grown up people about what to wear......
And how does it always comes from men :picard1:

This ones from a women who is drench in soft femininity.

The communist bull dykes would hate your guts but we like you.

[Sultan Suleiman]

This ones from a women who is drench in soft femininity.

The communist bull dykes would hate your guts but we like you.

Hahahaha xD

You obviously have never had contact with a Bosnian woman before :D

[el22]

I said 2nd generation communists not 1st generation communists.
2nd generation communist/ 2nd GenCom is Pro White genocide.

1st Gen

Good Guys/Victims - working class/ proletariate/ lumpen proletariate/ unemployed

Bad Guys/Oppressors - ruling class/ bourgeoisie / managerial class/ capitalist/ industrialist/ royal class

Way to Victory - workers of the world unite, throw off the chains of our capitalist/ruling class and a socialist utopia we will have. We know how that turned out, socialist utopias are built on mass graves.

During WW1 something happened that cracked the foundation of 1st GenCom. Instead of the working masses revolting against there oppressors, what the Good Guys did was unite with the Bad Guys of there nation. And then killed other good guys of other nations. O shit, that wasn’t supposed to happened.

Other ideas had to be put into practice. Then comes Frankfurt school and the like.

2nd Gen

Good Guys/ Victims - Blacks/ browns/ yellow/ women/ homos/ transgender/ transsexual/ other perverts/ midgets/ retards/ fat people/ ugly people/ NAMBLA/ ......

Bad Guys/Oppressors - White Christian Males

Way to Victory - colored masses of the world unite, throw of the chains of the racist/homophobic/sexist white christian male. If we want to erase rasism we must erase the White race/ mass flooding of all White nations/ destroy the family unit/ effeminate males (for you foreigners that means cut off mens balls)/ etc./ created conflict between White men and everyone else………..

I knew a redhead lefty/liberal girl. She came into my work very distraught, she looks like she got kicked in the gut. She found out the Blacks voted against Homo marriage and she just could not understand how one set of Good Guys / Victims (the blacks) could go against another set of Good Guy/Victim class, there brother in arms (the homos) All the oppressed Good Guy/Victims are not supposed to be fighting each other, there supposed to be destroying there oppressors , the White Christian Male. And then all the colored masses will hold hands, sing and dance in a circle on top of white corpses and everything will be beautiful.

I wrote this fast, so I'll probably have to clean it up.

I'm a second gen (ex)comunist, and I can tell you, you can't be more far from the truth. Second gen comunists are more capitalist than capitalists.

The epicenter of anti-whites anti-males is USA!

[Hong Key]

I'm a second gen (ex)comunist, and I can tell you, you can't be more far from the truth. Second gen comunists are more capitalist than capitalists.

The epicenter of anti-whites anti-males is USA!

My descriptions of 1st and 2nd gen is in there pure or pureish forms.

There’s obviously cross over and various ideas interwoven in the ideologies.

Some say 1st gen Trotsky was pro White genocide. And 2nd gen rambles about class war.

If your White country is being flooded with non Whites and anti White psychological warfare then your government/university/media is infested or controlled by 2nd generation communists. It doesn’t matter what they call themselves or what economic positions they propagated, what matters is that they propagate White genocide.

[el22]

My descriptions of 1st and 2nd gen is in there pure or pureish forms.

There’s obviously cross over and various ideas interwoven in the ideologies.

Some say 1st gen Trotsky was pro White genocide. And 2nd gen rambles about class war.

If your White country is being flooded with non Whites and anti White psychological warfare then your government/university/media is infested or controlled by 2nd generation communists. It doesn’t matter what they call themselves or what economic positions they propagated, what matters is that they propagate White genocide.

No. In my country "black" are roma-people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_(Romani_subgroup)) (and frankly they aren't really black, and far away from oppressing the whites).

In your last presidential's, the only candidatures of the party that won, was either a black or a woman. Make your choice.
The party that loose did't have a black, but a (rather stupid woman) for vice-president.

The white males are discriminated in the rest of the world because of USA lobbies, which leverage the influence that USA have in the world.

[Svipdag]

Well, it's heartening, albeit quite belated, that there is finally an antidote to Betty Friedan's "The Feminine Mystique". Juleigh Howard-Jobson seems to esteem highly those very values which Betty Friedan despised and dismissed as symbolic of women's subjection to men.

Could it be that we might see more feminine-looking and -acting women in the future ? Femininity may not be for every woman, but there are many women to whom it is very becoming. I venture to hope that those women whom it so enhances will feel free to manifest rather than reject it.


"First to thine own self be true....." - William Shakespeare

[Hong Key]

No. In my country "black" are roma-people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_(Romani_subgroup)) (and frankly they aren't really black, and far away from oppressing the whites).

In your last presidential's, the only candidatures of the party that won, was either a black or a woman. Make your choice.
The party that loose did't have a black, but a (rather stupid woman) for vice-president.

The white males are discriminated in the rest of the world because of USA lobbies, which leverage the influence that USA have in the world.

This threads original purpose was essentially femininity.

Yes America is filled head to toe with hostile elites/2nd gencom. Again it does not matter what they call themselves or there economic positions, Republican/Democrat Neocon/Liberal, Capitalist/Collectivist, Green/Purple I don’t care. What I do care about is if there pro White or pro White genocide. American elites do spread there filth across the whole wide world but they do have a lot of help from English royalty and other European elites.

I don’t know much about Algeria/Angola/Albania but I would warn you. While your spitting venom at Only American Elites, your Elites just might pull your pants down while your focus is in one direction.

[el22]

This threads original purpose was essentially femininity.

Yes America is filled head to toe with hostile elites/2nd gencom. Again it does not matter what they call themselves or there economic positions, Republican/Democrat Neocon/Liberal, Capitalist/Collectivist, Green/Purple I don’t care. What I do care about is if there pro White or pro White genocide. American elites do spread there filth across the whole wide world but they do have a lot of help from English royalty and other European elites.

I don’t know much about Algeria/Angola/Albania but I would warn you. While your spitting venom at Only American Elites, your Elites just might pull your pants down while your focus is in one direction.

OK, maybe I went off-topic, but there really aren't blacks in my country. Those few, which can be counted with fingers, are either USA embassy employees or a few African football players.

Anyway, I think this fashion of discriminating white males is temporary, but our generation probably will spend the entire lives under this fashion.

[el22]

And what's this thing about "spitting venom at Only American Elites"?
What I said is either true or false. If you think it's false, all you have to do is show it's falsity.

About femininity.
I think that the normal distribution of human sexuality, is from masculine man in one extreme, to less masculine man, to less feminine woman, to very feminine woman on the other extreme, in a continuum.

However, feminist consider masculine man and feminine woman as backward, patriarchal, etc. and promote man without masculinity and woman without femininity as contemporaneous, emancipated, etc.
By pushing the extremities toward the center, it's no wonder that some of those who were already in the middle, will cross the rainbow.

In other words, homosexuality and bisexuality are byproducts of feminism.
Again, with headquarters in USA.

[Hong Key]

And what's this thing about "spitting venom at Only American Elites"?
What I said is either true or false. If you think it's false, all you have to do is show it's falsity.

Again I don’t know the situation in your country or other southern/eastern nations. How many immigrants are being flooding into there? How much propaganda is being spread about the wonderful benefits of diversity and how multiculturalism is or could be your greatest strength. I don’t know, you tell me. If your in a White country that is successfully fighting off the worlds hostile elites then I am very happy for you and very jealous.

But my point is you seem only concerned with what the U.S. is doing. I don’t deny that they are the spear head. But this 2nd GenCom has spread like a virus to all (most?) white countries/most left and right political parties/ media/ universities. If the U.S. was to disappear tomorrow England/ Norway/ Sweden/ Denmark/ France/ Holland/ Canada/Etc would continue there White genocidal policy’s against there own people. Stalin killed a shit load of his own people but he didn’t try and Completely replace them with non White Russians.

There was an article in one of the nordic nations that came out within the year about “within a 100 years the last blonde hair/blue eyed (white) child would be born” they said it with such glee, with such enthusiasm, I bet they had erections. Could you image the South African Gazette started to bust out the champagne and party treats when they announced the last pigmy or Zulu would be born within 100 years?

Just because your elites are not trying to get ride you yet doesn’t mean they won’t try it soon, with or without the U.S. help. Meaning your next.

For anyone who lives in a non White nation this isn’t your conversation.

Economics:
What the Elitles are doing in Vietnam is not at all the same as what there doing in Norway. In Vietnam we can talk about the horrible economic policies you mentioned earlier. But there not trying to replace all of Vietnam with non Vietnamese. In Norway who cares about economics when there will be no more White people in Norway.

I agree with you on femininity.

[Talvi]

Perhaps you have a figure the size of a 12 year old boy but most women have breasts and wide hips. (one to make it eaisier to extract children from your womb and the other providing nutrition for your child). Which would dictate different clothing.


Perhaps since you are a man you dont know this but having a small waist and wide hips makes it much harder to wear skirts and dresses. Skirts start rising up and dresses usually are unbalanced. Unless you expect me to wear a burqa-like bag. Also, it is much harder to move comfortably in dresses and skirts. The only time it feels good is when its really hot out.

I see no reason why bearing children would dictate wearing a skirt.


Either way what oppressive things you think in your little creepy head doesnt matter. Because women are going to do as they please, not as some creep on the internet pleases.

[Hong Key]

Perhaps since you are a man you dont know this but having a small waist and wide hips makes it much harder to wear skirts and dresses. Skirts start rising up and dresses usually are unbalanced. Unless you expect me to wear a burqa-like bag. Also, it is much harder to move comfortably in dresses and skirts. The only time it feels good is when its really hot out.

I see no reason why bearing children would dictate wearing a skirt.


Either way what oppressive things you think in your little creepy head doesnt matter. Because women are going to do as they please, not as some creep on the internet pleases.

Right now you do not need us creepy White men. Maybe one day when the entire system falls apart or the last remnants of the White race is running for there life’s from the colored masses, then maybe just maybe you’ll need us. In that situation words like "clothing codex" "social construct” will not be muttered by any White person.

Right now Mommy Professors are teaching our people 2nd Generation communism all across Whites lands, only in White countries.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1059864&postcount=32

My concern is not if you wear a dress, my concern is if my race continues to exist. And right now it does not seem like it will.

[Talvi]

Right now you do not need us creepy White men. Maybe one day when the entire system falls apart or the last remnants of the White race is running for there life’s from the colored masses, then maybe just maybe you’ll need us. In that situation words like "clothing codex" "social construct” will not be muttered by any White person.

Right now Mommy Professors are teaching our people 2nd Generation communism all across Whites lands, only in White countries.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1059864&postcount=32

My concern is not if you wear a dress, my concern is if my race continues to exist. And right now it does not seem like it will.

You are wrong. White men are not creepy. You are creepy.

[Hong Key]

You are wrong. White men are not creepy. You are creepy.

Western civilization at the present day is passing through a crisis which is essentially different from anything that has been previously experienced. Other societies in the past have changed their social institutions or their religious beliefs under the influence of external forces or the slow development of internal growth. But none, like our own, has ever consciously faced the prospect of a fundamental alteration of the beliefs and institutions on which the whole fabric of social life rests ... Civilization is being uprooted from its foundations in nature and tradition and is being reconstituted in a new organisation which is as artificial and mechanical as a modern factory.

Christopher Dawson. Enquiries into Religion and Culture, p. 259.

[Talvi]

Western civilization at the present day is passing through a crisis which is essentially different from anything that has been previously experienced. Other societies in the past have changed their social institutions or their religious beliefs under the influence of external forces or the slow development of internal growth. But none, like our own, has ever consciously faced the prospect of a fundamental alteration of the beliefs and institutions on which the whole fabric of social life rests ... Civilization is being uprooted from its foundations in nature and tradition and is being reconstituted in a new organisation which is as artificial and mechanical as a modern factory.

Christopher Dawson. Enquiries into Religion and Culture, p. 259.

And you start by trying to fix this by dictating what women need to wear and what not on the internet? Bravo!

[Hong Key]

And you start by trying to fix this by dictating what women need to wear and what not on the internet? Bravo!



Woman Being
by Juleigh Howard-Hobson
From Counter Currents

“Why do women want to dress like men when they’re fortunate enough to be women? Why lose our femininity, which is one of our greatest charms? We get much more accomplished by being charming than we would by flaunting around in pants and smoking. I’m very fond of men. I think they’re wonderful creatures. I love them dearly. But I don’t want to look like one.”

Continue reading :
http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/woman-being/

[Hong Key]

Frankfurt School

To further the advance of their ‘quiet’ cultural revolution - but giving us no ideas about their plans for the future - the School recommended (among other things):

1. The creation of racism offences.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6. The promotion of excessive drinking
7. Emptying of churches
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family

One of the main ideas of the Frankfurt School was to exploit Freud’s idea of ‘pansexualism’ - the search for pleasure, the exploitation of the differences between the sexes, the overthrowing of traditional relationships between men and women. To further their aims they would:

• attack the authority of the father, deny the specific roles of father and mother, and wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of their children.
• abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
• abolish all forms of male dominance - hence the presence of women in the armed forces
• declare women to be an ‘oppressed class’ and men as ‘oppressors’

Munzenberg summed up the Frankfurt School’s long-term operation thus: ‘We will make the West so corrupt that it stinks.'

The School believed there were two types of revolution: (a) political and (b) cultural. Cultural revolution demolishes from within. ‘Modern forms of subjection are marked by mildness’. They saw it as a long-term project and kept their sights clearly focused on the family, education, media, sex and popular culture.

http://catholicinsight.com/online/features/article_882.shtml

[Sultan Suleiman]

Right now you do not need us creepy White men. Maybe one day when the entire system falls apart or the last remnants of the White race is running for there life’s from the colored masses

Only in America...

[Linet]

A woman can be totally feminine in Jeans . I think is up to her if she will be wearing them with a nice top :rose2: or with a basket-ball blouse :playball: and no....to have nice tops in your closet when you are the jeans type, isnt something terrible neither time-consuming :nono:.
I rarely see women that arent feminine :eyes in one way or another and lets not forget that times have changed :old. Most of the people that expect from their girls to be feminine and cute and have the old style aroma :rose: on the other hand they also expect them to have a degree :nerd: and work :ranger: to support their house. Well you cant expect from your gf out of the house to be working in a biology lab :typing and at home to be cooking roast and pies :food-smiley-002: for you in her preety little skirt :cheer_icoon:. She is also human, she will need some time to relax and i am sure that to dress up herself :stricken: when she is dead tired from work, will be hard.
So men should be sincere and decide if they want a dynamic woman :valkyrie: at the work field or a cute wife at home :washing: .

[Behemot]

Who cares what they want :D:D:D

[Heart of Oak]

Linet


You make very good sense...

even if you do spill ice cream down your top...

[Lena]

A woman can be totally feminine in Jeans . I think is up to her if she will be wearing them with a nice top :rose2: or with a basket-ball blouse :playball:

'If woman is poorly dressed you notice the clothes. If she is impeccably dressed, you notice the woman.'
(Coco Chanel)

Even jeans if combined with a proper accessories and nice top can look super cute, romantic and sexy on the right woman and flatter her body shape :).
I wear all, from jeans and linen pants like this one
http://s10.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/2F01F383.jpg


to romantic, long, top dresses and mini skirts :noidea:.

[Sultan Suleiman]

Who cares what they want :D:D:D

I agree, the most important thing is WHAT is under the clothes.

[el22]

So men should be sincere and decide if they want a dynamic woman :valkyrie: at the work field or a cute wife at home :washing: .

Sincerely, a man wants other man's dynamic woman at work, and their own at home.


'If woman is poorly dressed you notice the clothes. If she is impeccably dressed, you notice the woman.'
(Coco Chanel)


It takes a very sensitive (and maybe a little gay) man to make such a distinction.

[Hong Key]

1. The article is written by a women, it is about femininity not about clothing. Anyone read the article? Anyone?
http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/woman-being/

2. Men and women are not the same. Femininity and Masculinity are under attack along with our survival as a race.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1042226&postcount=42

3. Therefore our clothing style will probably be different. In a post-modern/post White world it really doesn’t matter. “there are no absolute truths” But throughout White history things did matter and absolutely there was absolute truths.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1045986&postcount=45

4. People who use words like "clothing codex" and "social construct” are 2nd generation communists.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1059864&postcount=32 http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1060525&postcount=52

5. My concern is not if you wear a dress, my concern is if there will be any White women bearing White children in 100 years from now.


http://health.hamiltontn.org/images/Istock%20Images/white%20mother%20and%20infant.JPG

[kabeiros]

And this is stupid.....to tell someone how to feel and how to dress :coffee:

http://s4.hubimg.com/u/3262007_f520.jpg
http://bikeportland.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/pretty_dress.jpg
http://www.tamegoeswild.com/words/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/edogawa_ekiden_141.jpg

[arcticwolf]

Women can wear whatever they want, it's their choice. Who cares what 3rd worlders think about anything? :laugh:

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

OK then don't let European women to work ,keep them at home busy with childbearing
You decide what they are going to wear .

What is the difference with Taliban ,sorry?

[arcticwolf]

OK then don't let European women to work ,keep them at home busy with childbearing
You decide what they are going to wear .

What is the difference with Taliban ,sorry?

Yep you've got a good point here. I don't care how we are perceived by the 3rd world. Women and men have the freedom to cloth as they please. I don't really see a relation between dress and morality. Men that are strong mentally will not rape a woman even if, excuse my French here, she sits on his face.:D

Judging a book by its cover is dumb. Ladies as far as I'm concerned you can walk around nekkid, if you dare. :laugh:

[el22]

Women can wear whatever they want, it's their choice. Who cares what 3rd worlders think about anything? :laugh:

Hey "first-world", we can't be more happy about your woman.


OK then don't let European women to work ,keep them at home busy with childbearing
You decide what they are going to wear .

What is the difference with Taliban ,sorry?

The distinction is this: differently from Taliban, we want our colleagues (other man's woman) to be present and dynamic at the workplace.
But, as any other man in the world, we want our woman to be cute and in home.

edit:
and again, differently from Taliban, you might choose to not care what your man wants. But, this doesn't mean that he wants something different.

[arcticwolf]

Hey "first-world", we can't be more happy about your woman.

It wasn't directed at you. You are European aren't you?

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

The distinction is this: differently from Taliban, we want our colleagues (other man's woman) to be present and dynamic at the workplace.
But, as any other man in the world, we want our woman to be cute and in home.

hmmm...:rolleyes:

[Lena]

It takes a very sensitive (and maybe a little gay) man to make such a distinction.

Nonsense. Not all women are blessed to be super fit and even those who are need to pay attn to colours which suit their tan nicely. Trust me on this one!

Now,for instance, if woman has an extra at her waist she certainly wants to wear some dress which is cut beneath the breasts line which will hit the narrowest part of her body; that way she'll cover her weak spots. If she has a chubby legs I believe she shouldn't wear a mini skirt for sure, but the longer one...etc. etc.

[el22]

And where is my "nonsense" here?
You may have enough precise tastes to know how to dress to look good.
All we can tell is whether you look better or not, but don't expect us to know why.

[Lena]

All we can tell is whether you look better or not, but don't expect us to know why.

...If she's impeccably dressed, you notice the woman.

[el22]

Trust me on this one!

I trust you... even about what I should dress myself.

[Behemot]

And here we go again.....
What you want from women at work
What you want from women at home
What you want woman to dress......
Well,keep on wanting,while you might consider that for women today is important what they want and that's it.....;)
And that is relevant because of ? White woman carrying white children in 100 years ? Dude........all white people need to do for that is to continue fucking,like they have been doing since........ever :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Behemot]

http://s4.hubimg.com/u/3262007_f520.jpg
http://bikeportland.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/pretty_dress.jpg
http://www.tamegoeswild.com/words/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/edogawa_ekiden_141.jpg

Bunch of colorful dressed people
And what is the problem ? :confused:

[Bucovina]

There are different types of men and different types of women. If a man is great at cooking and a woman great at fixing things around the house, it wouldn't be productive for anyone to make the woman cook and the man fix things.

We should be aiming to keep the whole feminine-masculine spectrum than to only be emphasizing the extremes or the center. I'm sure that the majority of people belong somewhere in between these lines.

It seems that the liberals tend to emphasize the center and the right wingers the extremes of the spectrum. They're all afraid of losing cultural values or freedom. This all creates misunderstanding and hate between people, and this certainly isn't productive in a healthy society.

A society where only the men take part in masculine activities and the women only take part in feminine activities is pretty much equivalent to a society where there is no distinction between masculinity and femininity.

[el22]

There are different types of men and different types of women. If a man is great at cooking and a woman great at fixing things around the house, it wouldn't be productive for anyone to make the woman cook and the man fix things.

We should be aiming to keep the whole feminine-masculine spectrum than to only be emphasizing the extremes or the center. I'm sure that the majority of people belong somewhere in between these lines.

It seems that the liberals tend to emphasize the center and the right wingers the extremes of the spectrum. They're all afraid of losing cultural values or freedom. This all creates misunderstanding and hate between people, and this certainly isn't productive in a healthy society.

A society where only the men take part in masculine activities and the women only take part in feminine activities is pretty much equivalent to a society where there is no distinction between masculinity and femininity.

I can't agree more!
Unfortunately at any time some group will promote their position in the spectrum as the right, virtuous, contemporary, or the emancipated one, and the "previous fashion" as backward at the very least.

And almost by definition this is the liberal position. The "liberal" that you mention is actually an extreme position.

[Talvi]

Why should anyone lecture me about being a woman or feminine. On the opposite, the more you need some clothes or other things to show your femininity, maybe you are not really that feminine at all. I feel like a woman whatever I wear.

[Heart of Oak]

I believe women, should be treated exactly the same as men.
there should be no need for women to shout loudly anymore. Surely we have been through that one.
women have proved themselfs, in all areas of the work place. along with politics and buiness, I have worked with women in battle they hold there nerve and get on with the task in hand.
the nurses that worked with me, saw terrible things, where never sick, not even air sick.
I really believe womem make excelent workers, wether it be at home or at the office...

[CelticViking]

I don't like lots of makeup. I can't always dress like Eowyn, sometimes I like to wear pants like Sarah Conner. I also wear shorts, t-shirts and hoodies. I've been in plays and wore suits etc. I mainly wear skirts or long dresses but if it is cold, I do not. Also when working on a farm, helping the sick, climbing the mountain, riding a horse or driving a motor bike or bike around town and there are other reason why wearing pants is a better idea at times. My male friends and family members were kilts and have long hair and some would find that girly. Men can cook and make clothes and look after children too and women can fix cars, milk cows and play with swords. The idea of what is normal for men and women to wear and do depends on their culture.

Women could also get cancer and have no more boobs or hair, but she is still a women and men could lose his private parts in war but he is still a man. Tranny people think that body parts and clothes make them a women but this is not true. They still have the mind of a man. Clothes and body parts don't make someone a women.

Men and women need to be building bridges and working together to solve other problems, instead of worry about a man wearing a kilt or a woman wearing pants etc.

Building Bridges

For generations, our enemies have used the media, academia, the legal system and every other lever of power to create division within our people. There are blue collar vs. white collar, men vs. women, Southerner vs. Yankee, Bronco's fan vs. Cowboy's fan, Democrat vs. Republican, and Baby Boomers vs. Generation X. These are issues that would be fine to argue about if we had an all-White society, if we kept it “all in the family.” But arguing these issues are detrimental to our cause as they have taken our focus off of RACE
http://www.whitenewsnow.com/a3p-american-third-position-party/17766-kelso-method-importance-positivity-building-bridges.html

[TheNepenthe]

Skirt is older than pants,we should all wear it :D



No. A person should wear what he/she finds to his/hers liking and comfortable with, not what fashion industry and sheep-mentality dictates.



I rarely wear trousers. Dresses and skirts are more comfortable and make me feel confident.

How come?

imo, skirts are uncomfortable and attract a lot of very undesired attentions (horny males and generally maniacs)

[Frosty]

What a funny thread.:D
Should I feel guilty because wearing trousers or less feminine though my sex is clearly visible even under 5 piles of clothes?:picard1:
I choose clothes that are comfortable for my job duties and because now my work is somehow more "masculine",trousers are just perfect.
Despite this,I've never been mistaken or treated like a man.:D

[el22]

I believe women, should be treated exactly the same as men.


I don't think even woman want that.
If anyone really thinks that, it's only because is not being very imaginative.

[Lena]

I trust you... even about what I should dress myself.

Good. Baggy pants with a floral print will suit you just perfectly.

[el22]

Good. Baggy pants with a floral print will suit you just perfectly.

While I believe you have more fine taste than I do, you don’t know how I look, so you’re not in the position to make an informed judgment.
With ‘you’ I meant woman in general, not Lena.

[Sabinae]

Pants talk :laugh:
People should wear quality clothes and be comfortable, keep healthy. That should be more important, although... when you live in society, there are some decent basics to be respected. Now... about what women should wear... I guess it is all individual choice and taste, personality, attitude, education.
As far as I'm concerned... I appreciate feminity, sensuality, quality, elegance. It is rare I wear pants... And it is likely that would be happening more often in winter/the cold season. I appreciate dresses and skirts, and feel comfortable wearing them. :)

[Heart of Oak]

I don't think even woman want that.
If anyone really thinks that, it's only because is not being very imaginative.

I really ment in the work place, and rights ect...

[Heart of Oak]

Pants talk :laugh:
People should wear quality clothes and be comfortable, keep healthy. That should be more important, although... when you live in society, there are some decent basics to be respected. Now... about what women should wear... I guess it is all individual choice and taste, personality, attitude, education.
As far as I'm concerned... I appreciate feminity, sensuality, quality, elegance. It is rare I wear pants... And it is likely that would be happening more often in winter/the cold season. I appreciate dresses and skirts, and feel comfortable wearing them. :)

As for clothes, you should be able to wear what ever makes you feel comfortable.
So I guess I agree with you...

[The Ripper]

Clothing codex is merely a social construct.

So is speech. So plz stop using it.

[Hong Key]

Oh my oh my. This article (which no one read) is not just about clothing.

Woman Being
by Juleigh Howard-Hobson
http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/woman-being/

“The source of all life and knowledge is in man and woman, and the source of all living is in the interchange and the meeting and mingling of these two: man-life and woman-life, man-knowledge and woman-knowledge, man-being and woman-being.” — D. H. Lawrence, letter written June 1914.[1]

“Why do women want to dress like men when they’re fortunate enough to be women? Why lose our femininity, which is one of our greatest charms? We get much more accomplished by being charming than we would by flaunting around in pants and smoking. I’m very fond of men. I think they’re wonderful creatures. I love them dearly. But I don’t want to look like one.”[2]

Don’t get me wrong, fellas, like Tasha Tudor (who stated the above), I love you all dearly, but I have found it to be nothing short of infuriating to be expected to be the best woman I can be by being the best ersatz man I can be. It is so exhausting being around people who expect me to want to be something I have no interest in being (a man). I find it crippling to the true feminine spirit that so much of what makes the male and female sexes unique and distinct has been sacrificed at the altar of equality. There is nothing equal about us—equivalent, assuredly, but equal? Equal implies that we are interchangeable, that we can be substituted for each other, that we are not different from each other, that we are the same.

Looking back, it’s been years—all my life really—that I’ve been dealing with this issue. (I’m going to assume I’m not alone—there were lots of women born when I was born, and raised like I was raised—but I’ll be speaking of only myself and for only myself throughout this essay. I might not be alone, but it would be . . . shall we say . . . imprecise to give the world the impression that I’m the rule, when, looking at numbers of working moms alone, I’m very much not.)

As a child, I wasn’t dissatisfied with being a girl. I wasn’t threatened by boyness. Maybe it bothered the proto-bully-feminists (the ones who used to mutter about male chauvinist pigs when men politely held doors open for them), but it never bothered me that I wasn’t a boy. No, wait, I take that back—I was bothered by not being a boy, but only because I was forever being taken to task for not wanting to be just like one.

Assumedly it would have made my young life a whole lot smoother if I had been born a boy, then I wouldn’t have had to fight my natural disinclinations toward boyishness. I would have loved (I guess) team sports, martial arts, math classes, competitive swimming, running hurdles, playing with cars and Tinker Toys, fishing, throwing snow balls and thinking about what previously-male-dominated career I would commandeer.

As it was, I didn’t like any of those things—the closest would have been fishing, but even then I felt so sorry for both the fish and the bait that I didn’t get a lot out of it—yet I was expected (sometimes actually forced) to participate in them anyway, and then was shamed for not enjoying them or being particularly good at them.

Needless to write, no one praised my perfectly set up doll house, my staggering collection of nail polishes (I later would become an Avon Representative in high school), my alphabetized Nancy Drews and Trixie Beldens, or my polite and sincere “thank you” said to the gallant men who held doors open for young ladies (they still did, back then). My abilities/sensibilities weren’t worth much to the “We Can Do It” hairy armpitted rankers of human-worth because what I was interested in wasn’t directly aimed at displacing the specialness of people with Y chromosomes. I wasn’t out to out do men.

The schools were the radical front for all of this gender-melding . . . regardless of personal inclination or chromosomal pair, we had to play the same game on the same leveled playing field. Literally, when it came to PE: either we all played basketball (non-contact basketball, you can’t have all those tall muscularly built teenage boys knocking over the girls while lunging for the ball . . . that just wouldn’t be fair) in the blazing sun in stupid blue unisex shorts and off-white unisex converse sneakers or we all played flag football (the big tank like muscular boys weren’t allowed to play real football with all those girls out there . . . that wouldn’t be fair) on a flat green oval surrounded by empty risers with heat shimmers that laid across both ends of the thing.

The sole equality in those sport moments, the only melding of interest was that, in the end, both genders suffered. The boys were forced to deal with a crippling non-boy presence in the midst of their formerly rough and tumble activities and the girls were forced to try to be better at strategically physical maneuvers then the boys naturally were. Only non-boy boys and non-girl girls thrived in that world—the ones who were destined to grow up and become softly male and feministic.

The marginalized rest of us—the (to use Jack Donovan’s definition) Alpha Males and (to use my definition) the Self-Assured Females—had to go through the motions; we spent a lot of energy not letting all the equality that surrounded us warp our sense of who and what we were. That type of effort takes a toll, but like any sort of initiation, it separates the men from the boys. In this case it also separates the men from the girls who think they are just-like-boys.

It’s them—the soft males and the feministic females (I’d call them hard females except that I can’t bring myself to use that ridiculous term, as much as it fits) that lie at the root of what is happening to society. They blur the lines between manhood and womanhood—lines that used to be very clear and understandable.

The old gallant phrase “Ladies first” wasn’t demeaning, as “Ladies and Gentlemen” wasn’t demeaning, and “women and children first” wasn’t demeaning. How could they possibly be demeaning when the end result of them is recognition of the differences and gallantries accorded to our distinct genders. I can’t hoist 100 pound sacks all day, and I am smart to be a little wary of men, who are naturally stronger, and who could use their strength for less than altruistic purposes on my behalf.

In a healthy society, decent men don’t use their strength to overpower and control women. The basic outward expression of this, a token if you will, is the old gallant gesture. The holding the door open, the giving up of the last seat, the helping with the packages—all acts designed to prove that, while any real man is strong enough to do pretty much what he wants in any given female/male situation, this particular man is not an animal . . . and woman is not his prey. Our society isn’t a healthy society, we ditched social graces at our peril. And many did. Still do.

Of course this gallant sort of thinking is based on the ancient notion that women are different and distinct than men. Our strengths are different, our abilities are different. We are not the same in outlook or in physique. Not lesser, not greater. Different—and, fellas, let’s not quibble about the notion of real diversity. It’s good to be different. Nature’s — and thus, our — strength lies in diversity—no mono culture is good, no homogeneousness thrives. Two heads are really better than one, especially if one has a beard and one has face powder.

It is not so easy, now, to spot the difference between the sexes. And, really, on a practical level, who really needs to these days. Or rather, when it comes to sexes, who really needs two these days. It doesn’t make much difference what sex the person behind a computer screen, or the person behind a cash register, or the person behind a desk is . . . it’s all equal opportunity. Humanity is now interchangeable—we all buy the same foods, wear pretty much the same clothes, watch the same movies, read the same books, do the same jobs. Color, age, race, gender—they constitute non-issues in the modern world.

Girls are not taught to be women. Boys are not taught to be men. Children are raised—often by outsourced care givers of different races and cultures than the parents’—to become adult worker/consumers. Consumers of everything. Actual makers of very little, but consumers all the same. It’s the biggest crime, really, of the modern Western world. This robbing of every aspect of making . . . for that was what made us who we were, what made us great, what made us—each and every one of us—actually matter and have a purpose. A purpose that had, at the heart of it, a firm foundation of gender self awareness that is all but gone now.

Men don’t know which tools are used for what these days. Go to any estate sale in any older neighborhood in America and see for yourself. There will be some older men looking at the vintage tools, but the 50 and under guy crowd? They’re looking for collectables for their metrosexual midcentury homes, preferably things they recognize from episodes of Mad Men or Man Caves. If they do purchase a tool, it’ll be to decorate with, not to use, not to make anything with.

Time was, men could fix a toaster after supper, build a chicken coop on the weekend, do their own plumbing work, make bookcases, make flowerboxes, plaster walls—heck, make the walls and then plaster them—whatever it took to protect and provide for a family of anywhere from a couple to a dozen of kids single-handedly . . . and they would be rightly appreciated for these talents that they possessed.

Now, we can toss the broken toaster and pick up a new cheap Chinese model virtually anytime day or night, we don’t need a coop when we can buy ready-made rotisserie chicken and glaringly white eggs (again anytime day or night)—plumbers drive trucks right over (day and night once again), Amazon.com and eBay deliver everything from bookcases to flowerboxes, changes or creations of walls are arranged for by the decorator, contractor or subcontractor of our choice and security comes from an alarm system, two paychecks and a decent day care situation. Who needs real men?

In the past decade or so, the women’s magazines have taken to running home-handyperson articles suggesting that women can learn to fix things just as well as men. These articles are apparently based on the ludicrous assumption that men know how to fix things, when in fact all they know how to do is look at things in a certain squinty-eyed manner, which they learned in Wood Shop; eventually, when enough things in the home are broken, they take a job requiring them to transfer to another home.[3]

Of course, no one needs real women either. Anyone can pick up that ready to eat rotisserie chicken, anyone can toss those eggs in a microwave safe bowl, anyone one can drop the two kids off at the daycare center. Gone are the days when it was an advantage to a family to have a woman in it. Time was, it was important to be a woman—not an ersatz man—and know how to take care of chickens—from gathering eggs to plucking stew-hens—how to grow a flourishing kitchen garden, how to fold a cloth baby diaper, how to make bread to put in that toaster you husband knew how to fix, how to sew all the clothing and make the ones you have sewn last, how to manage a household budget on one salary, and how to successfully raise boys and girls to become men and women. There was a science to it, an art to (hence the terms domestic science and domestic arts), and done well, it served our ancestors for thousands of generations . . .

I am very sad that I was denied the chance to learn how to do these things from the real mistresses of real kitchens. I have taught myself a lot, and have gleaned priceless moments of hands-on learning with old women (very old women now) who were still very much in touch with their feminine value and so passed on much more than mere knowledge when they showed me how to make the few things the much younger me wanted to learn: jams, cakes, cookies. . . . They passed from this world before their entire domestic arcana passed to this generation. What a loss to womanhood, to lose our grand dames before we realized what it truly was we needed to learn from them. It’s almost as if it were part of some agenda we girls were happily glued to the after-school television sitcom versions of life, while the real source of our lives withered to the root. Nobody told me that I should pay attention to what my last great aunt was saying, but, boy, they sure told me not to misplace the TV Guide . . .

It’s not to their credit, but it’s not entirely their fault if these 3rd or 4th wave feminists think/realize that they are capable of being exactly like the modern man is, because they are doing everything the modern man does. Is there anything particularly gender specific in working at Intel or Walmart? How about being a professor? Or a banker? Ad agent? Modern soldier? Even the warehouses have mechanized forklifts for lifting the heavy stuff. We, as a modern Western cultured people, have been thoroughly gender blended for a long enough time now that it seems like a hateful and oppressive fact that one upon a time women raised children and sewed clothes. A crime against the PC order of things. A waste of a viable life. A sin.

Well, perhaps not a sin. There’s that whole Christian “women are naturally inferior to men” mindset that has been the springboard for Feminist recruitment since the get go. Ruining the ancient balance of the genders by placing one up and one down is as unnatural as our folk getting down on bended knee and praying to a desert god. Both are wholly and completely incompatible with our folkways. As Alain de Benoist says: “. . . the conversion of Europe to Christianity and the more or less complete integration of the European mind into the Christian mentality, was one of the most catastrophic events in world history—a catastrophe in the proper sense of the word . . .”[4] Still, there is no stepping over the fact that Christian thought molded Western minds, and Christians thought “What else is a woman but a foe to friendship, an inescapable punishment, a necessary evil, a natural temptation, a desirable calamity, a domestic danger, a delectable detriment, an evil of nature, painted with fair colors!”[5]

I’d rather be burnt for a witch then have to put up with that sort of ridiculousness. But, that said . . . the vile yoke of Christianity still didn’t do as much damage to essential femininity, to the essential woman, than feminism or modern gender-denial/gender blending has. It might chaff and rankle to be called inferior and evil (I still get that all the time, and not from Christians . . . from the liberals) but it doesn’t ruin the essence, the soul, the very fabric of real womanhood. Our folkways were not lost inside Christianity, only buried (see my other essay on this site for more on that line of thought). We weren’t lost as women then, like we are lost now—we weren’t incapacitated by this whole-cloth denial of our true selves. We weren’t re-created and re-cast as not-women, as widgets and gender-as-incidental humans. We weren’t expected to lose our inner light, to lose our place in this world or our intrinsic right to be who and what we were, through and through. Once, in a revolting heyday of Christian fervor, strong women may have indeed been burnt as Lucifer’s handmaidens but they were never burnt as just his hand-people. A interestingly vital feminine point to an otherwise horrific moment in the Abrahamic downfall of our folk.

I don’t like anti-woman sentiment. I don’t like it from men. I don’t like it from women. I don’t like it in a box. I don’t like it with a fox. I don’t want to be a man. I don’t want my life to be judged on criteria set up to measure anything but feminine life. Not male, and certainly not genderless. I am not a man. I am not just a person. I am a woman. And with this knowledge, with this awareness of my essential way of looking at and interacting with the world, I am whole and I am unshakable.

Men cannot be my equal, and I will not be equal to them either, but we can exist as we are designed to exist: purposefully equivalent to one another. As Swami Muktananda extolls: “Honor your Self. Understand your Self. God dwells within you as you.”[6]

Notes

[1] George Zyturak and James T. Boulton, eds., The Letters of D. H. Lawrence, vol. 2, 1913–1916 (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2002), p. 181.

[2] Tasha Tudor and Richard Brown, The Private World of Tasha Tudor (Boston: Little Brown & Company, 1992), p. 63.

[3] http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/2510

[4] Alain de Benoist, On Being a Pagan, ed. Greg Johnson, trans. Jon Graham (Atlanta: Ultra, 2004), p. 5.

[5] Selma Williams, Riding the Nightmare, Women and Witchcraft from the Old World to Colonial Salem (New Yoek: Harper Perennial, 1978), p. 35.

[6] Swami Muktananda, Meditate, Happiness Lies Within You (South Fallsburg, N.Y.: SYDA Foundation: 1999), p. 37.

[Hong Key]

Juleigh Howard-Hobson

Juleigh Howard-Hobson is an award-winning formalist poet, as well as an essayist and editor. She is the author of Sommer & Other Poems (Portland, Ore.: Ravenshalla Arts, 2007) and The Cycle of Nine (Portland, Ore.: Ravenshalla Arts, 2010) (Ravenshalla@yahoo.com). Her work has most recently appeared in Autonom and Hex Magazine and is forthcoming in Primordial Traditions and The Journal of Contemporary
Heathen Thought.

In Englischer Garten
http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/08/in-englischer-garten/

Of Faith, Folk & Perspective
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1070224#post1070224

Other articles and poems by Juleigh Howard-Hobson
http://www.counter-currents.com/author/jhobson/

[Sabinae]

Yep you've got a good point here. I don't care how we are perceived by the 3rd world. Women and men have the freedom to cloth as they please. I don't really see a relation between dress and morality. Men that are strong mentally will not rape a woman even if, excuse my French here, she sits on his face.:D

Judging a book by its cover is dumb. Ladies as far as I'm concerned you can walk around nekkid, if you dare. :laugh:

I would like to sit...on someone's face... :D

[Heart of Oak]

History depicts that faces are ment to be sat on...

espesialy mine...

[QuelleHorreur]

It is a shame, really, becouse a woman's clothing serves both in the above story as in general as merely a symbol.
I believe it is not women wearing pants that is the problem, but the fact that clothes in general (and gender differences keeping pace) seem to move to some vague, unisex kind of ideal.
Sure, I agree with all the other ladies that clothes should be practical and comfortable first.
But clothes are more than that, clothes convey meaning.
They are another form of communication, a subliminal, visual way of showing who you are and what you are planning to do.
The external showing the internal.
For example: when I got to work (physical labor, surrounded by men) I wear army boots and clothes that cover my wel, ehm 'wimmin' bits, and protect me. In short: I look neutral. I am not there as a woman, as a girl, or as a person, really. I am part of the workforce and my clothes match that attitude.

When I go to my boyfriend I wear a dress or a skirt, heels and a cute bag.
It doesn't HAVE to be a skirt of a dress, and my boyfriend loves me all the same if I arrive in stinky lesbo-attire, but the fact that I wear something distinctly female is an outward manifestation of what he loves about me: me being a woman instead of an ersatz-man with benefits.
And, if you don't mind, being a woman I like to match my personality and intentions with my clothes, especially when dealing with the people I most love.

I understand, and, misses Hobson also stresses that 'really, on a practical level, who really needs to (stress gender differences) these days. Or rather, when it comes to sexes, who really needs two these days. It doesn’t make much difference what sex the person behind a computer screen, or the person behind a cash register, or the person behind a desk is . . . it’s all equal opportunity."

The clothes are an external sign of what is happening, a symbol of the dissapearing world in wich men and women, by being so different, complement eachother.
If the posters would have read the entire essay, they would not have gotten stuck on the "I can wear pants if I want to" mantra.
It is, indeed, a shame that such an important point seems to be missed.

[Albion]

Maybe women are just more comfortable and warm in trousers? I don't think it is really a big deal.

[Sabinae]

“For attractive lips, speak words of kindness.
 For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people.
 For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry.
 For beautiful hair, let a child run their fingers through it once a day.
 For poise, walk with the knowledge that you never walk alone.
 People, more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed. Remember, if you ever need a helping hand, you will find one at the end of each of your arms.
 As you grow older, you will discover that you have two hands, one for helping yourself and the other for helping others.”
― Sam Levenson

[Heart of Oak]

“For attractive lips, speak words of kindness.
 For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people.
 For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry.
 For beautiful hair, let a child run their fingers through it once a day.
 For poise, walk with the knowledge that you never walk alone.
 People, more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed. Remember, if you ever need a helping hand, you will find one at the end of each of your arms.
 As you grow older, you will discover that you have two hands, one for helping yourself and the other for helping others.”
― Sam Levenson

One hand for yourself, the other for the ship...:tongue

[Sabinae]

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