What is your mtDNA Haplogroup

[Nehellenia]

I just learned i'm W mtdna and i don't know further information about it.I just knew my maternal side from south slavic countries.

All i know about haplogroup w is that it's very rare in Europe and it's linked with Uralic peoples, as Finns and Hungarians have some of the highest percentages, i wouldn't be surprised if you have a distant Hungarian connection then.

[quaquaraqua]

I've just got the result, my mum, sicilian, got T2b.

[Omega]

Just got mine too. FTDNA says plain U5, project admin U5a1, probably need a FMS.

[paksaltopam]

Am I the only X? *chirp chirp*

[Kazimiera]

Am I the only X? *chirp chirp*

Lucky you! You cluster with the W, I and X which are extremely rare. Not much is written about those groups.

[paksaltopam]

Lucky you! You cluster with the W, I and X which are extremely rare. Not much is written about those groups.

I wish there was more to learn about them!

[Kazimiera]

I wish there was more to learn about them!

I know. They are the most neglected groups of them all. :(

[Methusalem]

My mtdna is U.

[Shuffle]

HV

[JoeyGee8688]

K. Seems to be relatively rare here.

[Longbowman]

Just saying:

Other: 15 respondents, 0 staff. Staff percentage: 0%
V: 8 respondents, 0 staff. Staff percentage: 0%
W: 5 respondents, 0 staff. Staff percentage: 0%
U: 35 respondents, 1 staff. Staff percentage: 3%
J: 19 respondents, 1 staff. Staff percentage: 5%
T: 20 respondents, 1 staff. Staff percentage: 5%
H: 67 respondents, 4 staff. Staff percentage: 6%.
Total: 198 respondents, 13 staff. Staff percentage: 7%
HV: 6 respondents, 1 staff. Staff percentage: 17%
I, N: 5 respondents each, 1 staff each. Staff percentage: 20%
K: 13 respondents, 3 staff. Staff percentage: 24%

K conspiracy on TA?

[bradly]

I was DNA tested this year and I'm very interested in my maternal ancester. Her name is Martha Gladwell of Oxford, England. My mtdna haplogroup turned out to be H. I hope this helps with the research.

[Maleficent]

According to 23andme my mother's maternal haplogroup was U2e1a and my paternal grandmother's was H13a2, but more specifically according to the recent mtFullSequence test results from FTDNA it is actually U2e1a1 and H13a2c1.

[Guapo]

According to 23andme my mother's maternal haplogroup was U2e1a and my paternal grandmother's was H13a2, but more specifically according to the recent mtFullSequence test results from FTDNA it is actually U2e1a1 and H13a2c1.

Hi

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

c1b2

[Guapo]

Ac/DC

[random]

U8b.

[The Sun King]

H1. H1n to be more specific.

[Cody Gearhart]

My Mtdna haplogroup is U5a1d. i've been told its a Scandinavian Haplogroup?

[Reith]

J1b1a

[Pjeter Pan]

U1a3, doesn't get any older and more ancient then that.

[Kazimiera]

U1a3, doesn't get any older and more ancient then that.

I is older. ;)

[Proctor]

Mine is V

[Longbowman]

Not K? Not OK.

New slogan. It's cleansing time.

[Guapo]

H11a1, most common in Belarus.

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

K1a19

[Jana]

N1a, I hear it is pretty rare anywhere, especially in Europe:cool:

[firemonkey]

H67- which I think is quite rare

[Velda]

U5b1b1

[DRUM]

T1a

[Eleonore]

I just got mine : H1c1. What does it tell ?

[Longbowman]

I just got mine : H1c1. What does it tell ?

Western European.

[Skjaldemjøden]

Mine is L2a1l2a1. L2a1l2a is apparently exclusive to Ashkenazi Jews and quite rare (estimated 1.5%). I don't really know what to make of it. Maybe I descend from the queen of Sheba. :eusa_eh:

[Gooding]

K2, whatever that is. If my maternal great- grandmother was French genetically, then it would be wise to assume that K2 has a high reading among members of some Western European population.

[Longbowman]

K2, whatever that is. If my maternal great- grandmother was French genetically, then it would be wise to assume that K2 has a high reading among members of some Western European population.

K is most common in the UK and France within Europe, if you exclude Ashkenazi Jews.

[Eleonore]

Western European.

Thank you, but no country in particular ? On 23andme website, it says it did originate in Doggerland which is underwater now !

[Skjaldemjøden]

Thank you, but no country in particular ? On 23andme website, it says it did originate in Doggerland which is underwater now !

That sounds pretty cool :thumb001:

[Eleonore]

That sounds pretty cool :thumb001:

It seems my ancestors knew how to swim or i wouldn't be there to be confused about it, giggles. I have never heard of it before, it sounds pretty cool indeed.

[Longbowman]

Thank you, but no country in particular ? On 23andme website, it says it did originate in Doggerland which is underwater now !

Can't tell you for H1c1 in particular but looks to be Bay of Biscay/UK.

Doggerland flooded gradually, and of course the 'cultural territory' would have included lands that are not currently submerged around the North Sea.

It was probably completely underwater by about 8,000 years ago.

[Jana]

Longbowman, do you know maybe the origins of N1a? Cannot find any meanigful info on it.

[Journeyman26]

X2d.. woooo! no information on it wooooooo! Its not the Native American X2A.. its not the Druze X1, X3 or X2b/e... all thats known about it was it originated somewhere in the Caucasus and is found today in found in Central and Eastern Europe, Balkans, Georgia and Turkmenistan. Also thought to have been introduced to Europe pre-indo european expansion by Anatolian farmers. Haplogroup X is referred to as "the traveler" because it is the most geographically diverse haplogroup.. but only found in tiny amounts everywhere (except the Druze in the Levant with X1,X2b, X2e, X2f, X3 ~20%).

[Qara]

edit: double post.

[Qara]

Mine is U7.
It was found in a Scythian grave.
http://dienekes.blogspot.com.tr/2012/11/u7-in-rostov-scythians.html

It also found at high frequencies (most) in modern-day Lurs, Azeris, Persians, Ossetians, Kurds, Pashtuns, Burusho, Tajik, Balochi etc.

[Eleonore]

Can't tell you for H1c1 in particular but looks to be Bay of Biscay/UK.

Doggerland flooded gradually, and of course the 'cultural territory' would have included lands that are not currently submerged around the North Sea.

It was probably completely underwater by about 8,000 years ago.

Thanks again. It turns out i have nearly 10% "English" on my result, i don't know if it qualifies or fits with this.

Ps: May i ask why the 23andme forum is locked? Is it only for the "friend of apricity?"

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

U2e1a

[Longbowman]

Thanks again. It turns out i have nearly 10% "English" on my result, i don't know if it qualifies or fits with this.

Ps: May i ask why the 23andme forum is locked? Is it only for the "friend of apricity?"

No - but you need to be a regular member, which involves having 15 posts. However, I have just made you one so you can explore it.

Most Bretons and North French and Dutch score some British.

[Longbowman]

Longbowman, do you know maybe the origins of N1a? Cannot find any meanigful info on it.

It's a Neolithic clade with serious representation in old Neolithic Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_N1a_%28mtDNA%29


Seven of 42 skeletons from Linear Pottery Culture sites were found to be members of the N1a haplogroup (see Neolithic European section). N1a was also identified in remains from a 6200 year-old megalithic long mound near Prissé-la-Charrière, France.[10] A 2500 year old fossil of a Scytho-Siberian in the Altai Republic, easternmost representative of the Scythians, was found to be a member of N1a1.[11] A study of a 10th and 11th century Hungarians found that N1a1a1 was present in high-status individuals but absent from commoners.[12] One of thirteen skeletons analyzed from a medieval cemetery dated 1250-1450 AD in Denmark was found to be a member of subclade N1a1a.[13]


However it is now extremely rare in Europe - you are one of the few survivors! It is most common in certain parts of Croatia, but still VERY unusual.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Thank you, but no country in particular ? On 23andme website, it says it did originate in Doggerland which is underwater now !

Strong associations with r1b, and with megaliths of france.

[Mazik]

mtDNA V :thumb001:

http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/mtDNA-V-map.png

[Black Wolf]

mtDNA V :thumb001:

http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/mtDNA-V-map.png

Do you know which subclade of V you belong to?

[Norka]

HV9

[Mazik]

Do you know which subclade of V you belong to?

No, unfortunately not. Some clade that's not found yet.

[Tchek]

mtDNA V :thumb001:



I'm HV0 myself, which is pre-V, a rather rare west euro MtDNA

[Tangun]

D4, commonly found in Koreans, Japanese, Okinawans and especially the Mongolic people of Northern China. Also found in Siberia and among the Kazakhs.

[Grace O'Malley]

I'm J1c3f and I've had the full mitochondrial sequence done at FTDNA. 11 - 25 generations ago I shared an ancestor with someone from Norway and the Russian Federation. I have a genetic distance of 1 with a person in Norway and the Russian Federation that is 1 mutation difference at the full sequence level. I also have a genetic distance of 2 and a genetic distance of 3 with 2 other Norwegians but all these Norwegians have the same surname. It is the feminine form of the name ending in dottar & dattar so 3 different people but the same surname. Because the closest is with Norway and the Russian Federation this looks to me like some sort of Viking movement (albeit a female one). Does anyone know if a distance of 1 is closer than the Viking era?

Genetic Distance - 1
Country
Norway
Russian Federation

Genetic Distance - 2
Country
Norway
Sweden
United Kingdom
England
Germany
France
Ireland
Hungary

Genetic Distance - 3
Bosnia and Herzegovina
England
France
Germany
Ireland
Norway
Poland
Russian Federation

[Catkin]

I'm J1c3f and I've had the full mitochondrial sequence done at FTDNA. 11 - 25 generations ago I shared an ancestor with someone from Norway and the Russian Federation. I have a genetic distance of 1 with a person in Norway and the Russian Federation that is 1 mutation difference at the full sequence level. I also have a genetic distance of 2 and a genetic distance of 3 with 2 other Norwegians but all these Norwegians have the same surname. It is the feminine form of the name ending in dottar & dattar so 3 different people but the same surname. Because the closest is with Norway and the Russian Federation this looks to me like some sort of Viking movement (albeit a female one). Does anyone know if a distance of 1 is closer than the Viking era?

Genetic Distance - 1
Country
Norway
Russian Federation

Genetic Distance - 2
Country
Norway
Sweden
United Kingdom
England
Germany
France
Ireland
Hungary

Genetic Distance - 3
Bosnia and Herzegovina
England
France
Germany
Ireland
Norway
Poland
Russian Federation

That's really interesting! :) I'm currently waiting for my results from a full mitochondrial sequence with FTDNA, so it's good to see the sort of things you find out. I'm hoping to get a more specific haplogroup too. I'm going to have to read up on the genetic distances with mtDNA. I suppose 11 generations could be relatively recent, but I guess it's based on average mutation times so it could be much longer ago (or more recent).

[Grace O'Malley]

That's really interesting! :) I'm currently waiting for my results from a full mitochondrial sequence with FTDNA, so it's good to see the sort of things you find out. I'm hoping to get a more specific haplogroup too. I'm going to have to read up on the genetic distances with mtDNA. I suppose 11 generations could be relatively recent, but I guess it's based on average mutation times so it could be much longer ago (or more recent).

Yes it is interesting. Post the info when you find out. I've also found out that a person who lived in Germany from 4,000 years ago was J1c3f and they were Unetice.

[Gooding]

K2: I probably have some French Basques hiding in the woodpile somewhere. :)

[XvThomas_LysergicV]

I thought my mtdna haplogroup would have been H,H1,etc. I was surprised when I found out my haplogroup was X2b. X2b is really rare. There aren't a lot of people who can say that X2b is their mtdna haplogroup. At first I thought it came from a Native American ancestor but I was wrong. X2b isn't associated with Native Americans. X2b can be found in Germany and the British Isles. My mom has German and English/Irish ancestry,so I'm guessing it came from one of those regions.

[Catkin]

Post the info when you find out.

I got my results today, I am H27 (good job James Lick!). It doesn't seem that common, but I do have some exact matches :)

Exact matches for FMS coding region, HVR1 and HVR2:
Country (alphabetically)
England
Germany
Ireland
Poland
United Kingdom

Genetic Distance - 1
Belarus
England
France
Germany
Ireland
Netherlands
Northern Ireland
Poland
Portugal
Scotland
Sweden
United Kingdom

Genetic Distance - 2
Austria
England
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Ireland
Norway
Russian Federation
Sweden
United Kingdom
United States (Native American)

Genetic Distance - 3
Belgium
England
Finland
France
Netherlands
Norway
Sweden
United Kingdom

Of my exact matches 5 are English, 3 are Irish, and the others just have one match each. Maybe there are other matches who haven't put their country of ancestry :confused:. It seems my female line has been kicking around these Isles for a while! I actually had no idea about the ancestry of this line as I can't trace any further than my mum's grandmother- I just know they lived in London. I'm still trying to read up on all the details of mtdna and likely mutation times etc, there's so much I don't know.

[Figaro]

N1b1b. Pretty rare subclade in Europe. Not entirely sure the story there...lol

[Catkin]

Genetic Distance - 1
Country
Norway
Russian Federation

Genetic Distance - 2
Country
Norway
Sweden
United Kingdom
England
Germany
France
Ireland
Hungary

Genetic Distance - 3
Bosnia and Herzegovina
England
France
Germany
Ireland
Norway
Poland
Russian Federation

Interesting too, that we have very different haplogroups, yet the countries of our closest matches are very similar- across the whole of Northern Europe to Russia. Similar population movements?

[Longbowman]

N1b1b. Pretty rare subclade in Europe. Not entirely sure the story there...lol

...unless you're Jewish :rolleyes:

[Black Wolf]

Interesting too, that we have very different haplogroups, yet the countries of our closest matches are very similar- across the whole of Northern Europe to Russia. Similar population movements?

Haplogroups only tell you about one very small direct line of ancestry. Autosomal DNA gives you the big picture when it comes to your DNA. You probably already know this though.

[Catkin]

Haplogroups only tell you about one very small direct line of ancestry. Autosomal DNA gives you the big picture when it comes to your DNA. You probably already know this though.

Yeah, but it's interesting to try to trace a direct female line, knowing the mtDNA is a signature I'll pass on directly :). It's not as good for ancestry as y-DNA, with the slower mutations, and of course it's not got any surname connections, but it's all I have! ;)

[Graham]

Map location of other people that match my mtdna.
http://s13.postimg.org/lzuov9307/dna.jpghttp://s13.postimg.org/9z98uivlj/dna1.jpg

[Grace O'Malley]

Interesting too, that we have very different haplogroups, yet the countries of our closest matches are very similar- across the whole of Northern Europe to Russia. Similar population movements?

Yes I noticed that as well.

[Kazimiera]

I updated the poll to include X. :)

[Zmey Gorynych]

H6a1b. Read a little about it on the internet (Eupedia). It seems that this mtdna haplogroup is associated with the Corded Ware culture just like my Y-DNA. Not sure in which population it peaks, 23andme says czechs and french. I know that one bulgarian member has it and I've seen on FTDNA site/forum that a few western europeans (or americans of western european descent) have it.

Anyone knows more about H6a1b? I downloaded my raw mtdna data on one of those amateurish sites (jameslick) and it told me that it is most likely H6a1b4.

[Lawalye]

J2a2, it seems to be a middle eastern subclade according to Eupedia :

"J2a2 : found mostly in the Near East and North Africa
J2a2a : found in Italy, Anatolia, the Levant and Yemen
J2a2b : found in the Maghreb, Greece and Russia
J2a2c : found in Italy (including Sardinia) and Yemen
J2a2d : found in the Maghreb".


And my most distant matrilineal ancestor is Anne Elisabeth Schommers born at Thommen (german community in Belgium) in the mid 18th century.

[Tchek]

J2a2, it seems to be a middle eastern subclade according to Eupedia :

"J2a2 : found mostly in the Near East and North Africa
J2a2a : found in Italy, Anatolia, the Levant and Yemen
J2a2b : found in the Maghreb, Greece and Russia
J2a2c : found in Italy (including Sardinia) and Yemen
J2a2d : found in the Maghreb".


And my most distant matrilineal ancestor is Anne Elisabeth Schommers born at Thommen (german community in Belgium) in the mid 18th century.
Maybe old "sarmatian" link?

J2a haplogroups were recently found (http://j2-m172.info/2015/04/three-j2-found-at-merovingian-buriel-site-roman-frankish-transitional-period/) in a Merovingian grave near Maastricht


EDIT: sorry it seems to be Y-dna not Mtdna I think but I think it still interesting.

[Journeyman26]

aww they added X to the poll after I already voted "other"

[de Burgh II]

T2b3b

[Ylla]

Era has my haplogroup (U4) and an Irish person on Anthrogenica had U4d1.

[Iloko]

23andme:
http://i.imgur.com/6f7Icym.jpg

...

WeGene:
http://i.imgur.com/nPXuTnb.jpg

[Rethel]

What is your mtDNA Haplogroup.

The true man doesn't care.
The true alpha is not even curious.
The true R1 pretends that has no mt!


:p

https://nomadess.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/get-hip-to-patriarch.jpg

[MINARDOWICZ]

H may be boring but not mine. H6C. I think I'm the only one on here.

[Kazimiera]

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q526/katzentatzen79/Untitled_zpsxrhnyqv7.png (http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/katzentatzen79/media/Untitled_zpsxrhnyqv7.png.html)

[Africa]

L2A1C

[Uull]

K1c1, my maternal line originally came out of Germany but I don't know any specifics.

[Dolofonos]

EEW :loveheart:

http://i65.tinypic.com/rucq6o.jpg

[Kriptc06]

I have no idea, I didnt test it

[Kelmendasi]

Could someone help find my Mtdna please? I did a HVR1 and HVR2 test from Yseq, my HVR1 results have come back and I don't have a clue what it's saying. All I know is that I probably am T2 or something like that. Here are my results:
mtDNA:16126 mt 16126 16126 C+
mtDNA:16163 mt 16163 16163 G+
mtDNA:16186 mt 16186 16186 T+
mtDNA:16189 mt 16189 16189 C+
mtDNA:16294 mt 16294 16294 T+
mtDNA:16519 mt 16519 16519 C+

[Kriptc06]

Could someone help find my Mtdna please? I did a HVR1 and HVR2 test from Yseq, my HVR1 results have come back and I don't have a clue what it's saying. All I know is that I probably am T2 or something like that. Here are my results:
mtDNA:16126 mt 16126 16126 C+
mtDNA:16163 mt 16163 16163 G+
mtDNA:16186 mt 16186 16186 T+
mtDNA:16189 mt 16189 16189 C+
mtDNA:16294 mt 16294 16294 T+
mtDNA:16519 mt 16519 16519 C+
according to this:
http://www.jogg.info/pages/62/files/QuickRef.pdf

you are T1
JT: 4216C, 11251G, 15452A, 16126C
T:
709A, 1888A, 4917G, 8697A, 10463C, 13368A, 14905A, 15607G, 15928A, 16294T
T1:
12633A, 16163G, 16186T, 16189C

[Kelmendasi]

according to this:
http://www.jogg.info/pages/62/files/QuickRef.pdf

you are T1

T1:
12633A, 16163G, 16186T, 16189C
Yh so it seems, but I do have some mutations that are found in T2 as well

[Kriptc06]

Yh so it seems, but I do have some mutations that are found in T2 as well
could be, acording to that pdf, 16189C can also be T2e4, but it looks ambigous. but youre def. T

[Kelmendasi]

could be, acording to that pdf, 16189C can also be T2e4, but it looks ambigous. but youre def. T
Yh Mtdna seems weirder than Ydna by far IMO lol, how do I get further analysis without paying?

[Kelmendasi]

So I am definitely T which is cool but I would like to know if it's T1 or T2. Also isn't T1 Indo-European or something like that, some subclades are said to be Indo-European, some are Hunter-Gatherer and some are Neolithic

[Kriptc06]

^
maps
http://i.imgur.com/YbHNMgV.png
#
http://i.imgur.com/xkskWcq.png


http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/29197-New-map-of-mtDNA-haplogroup-T2

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/29203-New-map-of-mtDNA-haplogroup-T1

[Kelmendasi]

So maybe T1 is Dacian lol :shrug:

[Kriptc06]

Yh Mtdna seems weirder than Ydna by far IMO lol, how do I get further analysis without paying?

you tested with ftdna correct (family finder)? join T Hg project and talk to the admin there, he/she may give you further clues

[Kelmendasi]

you tested with ftdna correct (family finder)? join T Hg project and talk to the admin there, he/she may give you further clues
Nah I did Yseq but I can't find any T Mtdna groups which sucks ass man kek. I don't want to pay again for further analysis. I think Ftdna would of been a better option for Mtdna analysis

[Kelmendasi]

Judging by the Genomic history of South east Europe table, T1 was found in ancient Germany, Ukraine, Russia, Sweden, Bulgaria and Jordan.

[Kelmendasi]

I think I am T1a1 as I have found that a Bulgarian in Albania(with Albanian origin) that is from a village close to my great Grandmothers has this haplogroup and since I may be T1 this may confirm it
https://s9.postimg.org/yqdeupe6n/Inkedimage_29_LI.jpg

[Kelmendasi]

He is T1a1l which judging by the Ftdna T1 project has only been found in the Balkans(Bulgaria, Albania and Serbia)

[Kriptc06]

Nah I did Yseq but I can't find any T Mtdna groups which sucks ass man kek. I don't want to pay again for further analysis. I think Ftdna would of been a better option for Mtdna analysis

Here:https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/t-fgs/about/background

You can also create an account at FTdna, as if you were to do an autosomal transfer, but not

And ask questions there. I do believe you are T1, yes

[Kelmendasi]

Here:https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/t-fgs/about/background

You can also create an account at FTdna, as if you were to do an autosomal transfer, but not

And ask questions there. I do believe you are T1, yes
Ok thanks. I too believe I am T1 since I found out about that guy from Albania that lived in a close village to my great grandmothers

[Kelmendasi]

Another interesting thing is that the T1a1l in Bulgaria is from the village of Arbanasi which is a historically Albanian village

[DRUM]

He is T1a1l which judging by the Ftdna T1 project has only been found in the Balkans(Bulgaria, Albania and Serbia)

i'm also T1a and this site predicts me as T1a1l
https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

[Kelmendasi]

i'm also T1a and this site predicts me as T1a1l
https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/
Hajde vlla hajde, yh most evidence is suggesting that I am T1a1l as well

[Kelmendasi]

you tested with ftdna correct (family finder)? join T Hg project and talk to the admin there, he/she may give you further clues
Oh I just realised that u were talking about family finder kek. Yh I did test with Ftdna(family finder)

[DRUM]

Hajde vlla hajde, yh most evidence is suggesting that I am T1a1l as well

can't say, maybe you are maybe not :biggrin:

[Kelmendasi]

can't say, maybe you are maybe not :biggrin:
Yes this is true. Me being T1a or T1a1 is basically confirmed though judging by the mutations I have

[Kriptc06]

Yes this is true. Me being T1a or T1a1 is basically confirmed though judging by the mutations I have

did you talk to the admin? they are generally better at saying such things I am just an enthusiast haha :P

[Sacrificed Ram]

Some L clade, not M or N derivative. My maternal lineage is black african.

[Kamal900]

U3 haplogroup.

[Kriptc06]

Some L clade, not M or N derivative. My maternal lineage is black african.

how can you be so sure if you didnt test for it? what if it is native american? A, B, C & X?

There are some L clades that are present in europe too.... just saying

[Sacrificed Ram]

how can you be so sure if you didnt test for it? what if it is native american? A, B, C & X?

There are some L clades that are present in europe too.... just saying

Everybody is L mtDNA like Everybory is A yDNA.

My greatgrandmother, mother of my grandmother, mother of mother was black. I think improbable some NEGÃO ancestor had contact with some índia, despite I also thought about this possibility.

[Kelmendasi]

did you talk to the admin? they are generally better at saying such things I am just an enthusiast haha :P
I'll try and message them later

[Hadouken]

H . without any subclade . just H

[Kriptc06]

H . without any subclade . just H

Just H? Isn't that rare?

And btw your Sig, OK I stfu'd kurd women :loveheart:

[Hadouken]

Just H? Isn't that rare?

not really . have seen quite a few people having it



And btw your Sig, OK I stfu'd kurd womem :loveheart:

lol

[Kriptc06]

not really . have seen quite a few people having it



lol

Mmm!

BTW I've hear Kurds have the highest V13 in the middle East :D cool man

[Kriptc06]

Everybody is L mtDNA like Everybory is A yDNA.

My greatgrandmother, mother of my grandmother, mother of mother was black. I think improbable some NEGÃO ancestor had contact with some índia, despite I also thought about this possibility.

No bilyet

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/29211-New-map-of-mtDNA-haplogroup-L

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/mtDNA-L-map.png

[gültekin]

H1a3, very rare

[Pahli]

L3d, first humans to arrive to Eurasia, basically ancestral to all of your mtdnas :laugh:

[Sacrificed Ram]

L3d, first humans to arrive to Eurasia, basically ancestral to all of your mtdnas :laugh:

It can be more recent in origin, like Swahili Coast. And L3d is sibling of M and N, not ancestor.

[Kelmendasi]

Meh, it seems like I need to do even further tests as it seems like HVR1 gives me a basic view on it as all it really shows is that I am T1 and that I could be T1a1. I am still waiting for the T1 admin to respond to my email. I found out that another Albanian from the same region as my great grandmother was T1 but he tested at 23andme so I don't know his specific T1 clade although I believe that we are T1a1l based on that other guy from my maternal region that was T1a1l

[Kriptc06]

Meh, it seems like I need to do even further tests as it seems like HVR1 gives me a basic view on it as all it really shows is that I am T1 and that I could be T1a1. I am still waiting for the T1 admin to respond to my email. I found out that another Albanian from the same region as my great grandmother was T1 but he tested at 23andme so I don't know his specific T1 clade although I believe that we are T1a1l based on that other guy from my maternal region that was T1a1l
umm so these mutations are only HRV1?

mtDNA:16126 mt 16126 16126 C+
mtDNA:16163 mt 16163 16163 G+
mtDNA:16186 mt 16186 16186 T+
mtDNA:16189 mt 16189 16189 C+
mtDNA:16294 mt 16294 16294 T+
mtDNA:16519 mt 16519 16519 C+

then yes pretty basic
, when will you ge hvr2?

[Kelmendasi]

umm so these mutations are only HRV1?

mtDNA:16126 mt 16126 16126 C+
mtDNA:16163 mt 16163 16163 G+
mtDNA:16186 mt 16186 16186 T+
mtDNA:16189 mt 16189 16189 C+
mtDNA:16294 mt 16294 16294 T+
mtDNA:16519 mt 16519 16519 C+

then yes pretty basic
, when will you ge hvr2?
I did order HVR2 the same time as HVR1 and Alpha-Beta(Ydna/Y37 equivalent) but only HVR1 has come back. I do think that these are only HVR1 as they are basic and HVR2 results look different also HVR2 could confirm which sub-clade of T1

[Kelmendasi]

Although my HVR1 mutations do confirm that I am T1a but I will need to see the HVR2 result to see which sub-clade of T1a although as I have said before I reckon that I am T1a1/T1a1l

[Kriptc06]

Although my HVR1 mutations do confirm that I am T1a but I will need to see the HVR2 result to see which sub-clade of T1a although as I have said before I reckon that I am T1a1/T1a1l

Oh, cool, then when HRV2 comes you will know if you are T1a1 or another branch.

HVR1 is very basic as you saw, HVR2 will give you a better definition, dont forget to post it here :D

how much did you pay for the shipping? Im thinking of doing it, its cheaper, but the shipping maybe screw the "cheap" part, idk

[Kelmendasi]

Oh, cool, then when HRV2 comes you will know if you are T1a1 or another branch.

HVR1 is very basic as you saw, HVR2 will give you a better definition, dont forget to post it here :D

how much did you pay for the shipping? Im thinking of doing it, its cheaper, but the shipping maybe screw the "cheap" part, idk
HVR1 and HVR2 cost $50 all together but you will have to pay shipping as you need to exceed the $100 to get free shipping, or you can do MT complete which is $179 and has free shipping. I personally didnt pay for shipping as I paid more than $100 as I did HVR1, HVR2 and Alpha-Beta

[Kelmendasi]

whats interesting is that T1 in Albania so far seems to be confined in my mothers maternal and paternal region of Dibra e vogel. Every Albo from the villages near my great grandmothers that has tested is T1 with one testing at 23andme which doesn't give a specific clade although I am autosomaly related to this guy as well, the other guy is T1a1l and he has tested via Ftnda.

[Pahli]

It can be more recent in origin, like Swahili Coast. And L3d is sibling of M and N, not ancestor.

No it is not, it is the mother of M and N

http://i.imgur.com/VAD5KJ9.png

[Sacrificed Ram]

No it is not, it is the mother of M and N


You are L3d, M is the same than L3m and N is is the same than L3n, all children of L3 only.

[Kriptc06]

You are L3d, M is the same than L3m and N is is the same than L3n, all children of L3 only.

So youre afrocentrist eh

[Pahli]

You are L3d, M is the same than L3m and N is is the same than L3n, all children of L3 only.

It doesn't matter, I still have the L3 with the "d" mutation, in the end it is still ancestral to all Eurasian mtdna haplogroups.

[Sacrificed Ram]

So youre afrocentrist eh

No, the most old diverged mtDNA is found in Australia.

http://www.pnas.org/content/98/2/537.full.pdf

[Kelmendasi]

My HVR2 results have come and I think it confirms that I am T1a1l as I have the mutations associated with it, 309.1 and 315.1
10204 mtDNA:195 mt 195 195 C+
10204 mtDNA:263 mt 263 263 G+
10204 mtDNA:309.1 mt 309 310 C+
10204 mtDNA:309.2 mt 309 311 C+
10204 mtDNA:315.1 mt 315 316 C+
10204 mtDNA:73 mt 73 73

[Kelmendasi]

If not T1a1l it confirms that I am t1a1

[Kelmendasi]

Not sure why the admin for T1 hasn't replied to any of my e-mails

[Charles Bronson]

F1a3 Mongolian Mtdna.


Fucking shit Im not a Turk, I dont have a Turkic haplogroup.:(

[Kriptc06]

My HVR2 results have come and I think it confirms that I am T1a1l as I have the mutations associated with it, 309.1 and 315.1
10204 mtDNA:195 mt 195 195 C+
10204 mtDNA:263 mt 263 263 G+
10204 mtDNA:309.1 mt 309 310 C+
10204 mtDNA:309.2 mt 309 311 C+
10204 mtDNA:315.1 mt 315 316 C+
10204 mtDNA:73 mt 73 73

Congrats! You are indeed very likely to be T1a1l (I can confirm you as T1a1 tho, the lt looks ambiguous to me, but if you said some people on the surrounding villages are.. so.. the odds are in your favor)

Additional Variants
T1a1l:309.1C, 315.1C

T1a1:309.1C, 315.1C, 8921

^as you can see both can have this extra mutation

http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/jt/t/t1/t1a/t1a1/t1a1l/
http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/jt/t/t1/t1a/t1a1/

[Kelmendasi]

Congrats! You are indeed very likely to be T1a1l (I can confirm you as T1a1 tho, the l looks ambigous to me, but if you said some people on the surrounding villages are.. so.. the odds are in your favor)

Additional Variants
T1a1l:309.1C, 315.1C

T1a1:309.1C, 315.1C, 8921

^as you can see both can have this extra mutation

http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/jt/t/t1/t1a/t1a1/t1a1l/
http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/jt/t/t1/t1a/t1a1/
Thanks. Yh the mutations are found in both as T1a1l is descended from T1a1, thing is that HVR2 doesn't go into much depth as it doesn't show me the mutation which can confirm my sub-clade. But I am T1a1 as you said and the fact that people from nearby villages are T1a1l supports the fact that I could be T1a1l

[Kelmendasi]

It would of been cool if there was a Mtdna predictor based off from the Alleles, not sure why there isn't one lol

[Kelmendasi]

Maybe I could just be T1a1?

[Pahli]

F1a3 Mongolian Mtdna.


Fucking shit Im not a Turk, I dont have a Turkic haplogroup.:(

Why not? Turkic people mixed heavily with Mongolian people in ancient times, it doesn't make your mtdna "non-Turkic" :)

[Lek]

If not T1a1l it confirms that I am t1a1

So you're T1?

[Lek]

Not sure why the admin for T1 hasn't replied to any of my e-mails

how did you find out your mtdna and whats your ydna ?

[PegLegPeter]

..........

[Kelmendasi]

how did you find out your mtdna and whats your ydna ?
I tested HVR2 and HVR1 and they showed that I am T1a1 and perhaps T1a1l which is a clade of T1a1. My Ydna result from Yseq hasn't come yet

[Kelmendasi]

So you're T1?
Yh, at first I though that I was T2 but then I found out that I am T1a1

[PegLegPeter]

oops wrong one, only tested Y

[Voskos]

My mtdna is H.

[Voskos]

Yh, at first I though that I was T2 but then I found out that I am T1a1

did the admins reply to your mail?

[Kelmendasi]

did the admins reply to your mail?
Nah lol. But I think it's like 90% certain that I am T1a1l and 100% certain that I am T1a1

[Voskos]

Nah lol. But I think it's like 90% certain that I am T1a1l and 100% certain that I am T1a1

you'll never know for sure until you test the full sequence.

[Kelmendasi]

you'll never know for sure until you test the full sequence.
Yh, full sequence will confirm the clade but I am sure that HVR1 and HVR2 confirmed that I am T1a1, people that are from my maternal area and have tested are all T1 although only one did a more advanced test and turned out to be T1a1l

[Voskos]

Yh, full sequence will confirm the clade but I am sure that HVR1 and HVR2 confirmed that I am T1a1, people that are from my maternal area and have tested are all T1 although only one did a more advanced test and turned out to be T1a1l

interesting. neolithicness intensifies

[Kelmendasi]

interesting. neolithicness intensifies
Yh lol. T1a was found in Starcevo hehehehe, I heard that maybe some HG could of had it as well as Indo-Europeans, but in majority it seems to be Neolithic

[Voskos]

Yh lol. T1a was found in Starcevo hehehehe, I heard that maybe some HG could of had it as well as Indo-Europeans, but in majority it seems to be Neolithic

albania north seems to be the closest to early european farmers along with basques and sardinians

[Kelmendasi]

albania north seems to be the closest to early european farmers along with basques and sardinians
Interesting, I would like to see more Tosks get tested so that we can see how much Neolithic admixed they are, so far the majority of Albanians testing are Ghegs mainly from Kosova

[Kelmendasi]

Nearly all of T1a1l seems to be from the Balkans:
http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/jt/t/t1/t1a/t1a1/t1a1l/

[rhiannon]

Damn....
Guess X isn't very common lol.

I'm X2a1b. Just found out recently through Nat Geo's Geno 2.0 (Helix version).

Oddly, I've done both Geno and Ancestry DNA but neither indicate any presence of NA ancestry.

My mother's, mother's family all come from the area in Canada where this Haplogroup is most common. My great grandmother grew up in some place called Iroquois Village. My mother herself has suspected for a long time there might be Iroquois on her mother's side...so while none of my Autosomal DNA backs up her theory....kinda looks like my mtDNA Haplogroup certainly does.

Given I'm Old Stock, WASPy American....none of this is shocking.

As for the rest of the Geno 2.0 Results:

74% NW European
11% NW European
5% E European
3% SW European
7% Asia Minor. On Ancestry this part calculated at about 0-3% from the Caucasus region.

1.5 % Neanderthal

[rhiannon]

Damn....
Guess X isn't very common lol.

I'm X2a1b. Just found out recently through Nat Geo's Geno 2.0 (Helix version).

Oddly, I've done both Geno and Ancestry DNA but neither indicate any presence of NA ancestry.

My mother's, mother's family all come from the area in Canada where this Haplogroup is most common. My great grandmother grew up in some place called Iroquois Village. My mother herself has suspected for a long time there might be Iroquois on her mother's side...so while none of my Autosomal DNA backs up her theory....kinda looks like my mtDNA Haplogroup certainly does.

Given I'm Old Stock, WASPy American....none of this is shocking.

As for the rest of the Geno 2.0 Results:

74% NW European
11% NW European
5% E European
3% SW European
7% Asia Minor. On Ancestry this part calculated at about 0-3% from the Caucasus region.

1.5 % Neanderthal

Oh and my top two reference groups, or groups I most resemble genetically speaking came out to be:

1. Danish
2. Norwegian

[MysteriousWays]

H11a2a2 for me

[Jana]

H10e. It's most common in northwestern Europe and it was found in Corded Ware ancient sample from Saxony.
Interestingly it was also found in medieval Croatia: ''The number of typed mtDNA from the 10th–12th century contact zone metapopulation13 was enlarged by four 10th century samples from present-day north Croatia. One belonged to a characteristic European H10e haplotype''
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?196515-Groundbreaking-new-mtDNA-genetic-study-on-Old-Hungarians-with-surprising-results

Famous H10e carrier: Chevalier de Bayard
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?206845-Y-DNA-and-mtDNA-of-Chevalier-de-Bayard

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

H15.

"Eupedia identifies the H15 clade with the Indo-Europeans and specifically yDna R1b. "R1b1b correlates best with mt-haplogroups: H5a, H7, H8, H15, I1a1, J1b1a, K1a3, K1c2, K2a6, U5 and some V subclades (like V15). Minor mt-haplogroups also include U3 and X2."

Goes on to add this about H15, "a rare subclade found in Scotland, Germany, Poland, Austria, Northern Italy, Central Asia (Turkmenistan), Iran and northern India."

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Famous personality with H15 mtDNA: Napoleon Bonaparte.

[Kamal900]

H15.

"Eupedia identifies the H15 clade with the Indo-Europeans and specifically yDna R1b. "R1b1b correlates best with mt-haplogroups: H5a, H7, H8, H15, I1a1, J1b1a, K1a3, K1c2, K2a6, U5 and some V subclades (like V15). Minor mt-haplogroups also include U3 and X2."

Goes on to add this about H15, "a rare subclade found in Scotland, Germany, Poland, Austria, Northern Italy, Central Asia (Turkmenistan), Iran and northern India."

What about the U3 haplogroup? I belong to the U3 haplogroup, so I'm interested in finding which peoples have the highest frequency of the haplogroup.

[frankhammer]

HV

HV is unevenly spread around Europe, being extremely rare in Finland, Scandinavia (except Iceland), the British Isles, the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Albania, and most of Iberia. The highest percentages of haplogroup HV in Europe are observed in Calabria (10%), Sicily (5%), Tuscany (5%), Sardinia (4.5%), Bulgaria (4%), southern Belarus (4%), Croatia (3.5%), Ukraine (3.5%), Iceland (3.5%), Greece (3%), Cyprus (2.5%), and Romania (2.5%).

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

What about the U3 haplogroup? I belong to the U3 haplogroup, so I'm interested in finding which peoples have the highest frequency of the haplogroup.

Haplogroup U3 is primarily a Near Eastern and Caucasian lineage, being found only at a frequency exceeding 3% in the eastern Mediterranean and in the Caucasus. The highest percentages of U3 are observed in Jordan (15%), Syria (5%), Lebanon (5%), Cyprus (5%), Iraq (5%), Armenia (5%), Georgia (4.5%), Azerbaijan (3.5%), Turkey (3.5%), Greece (3.5%) and Egypt (3%), as well as among the various ethnic groups of the North Caucasus, including the Karachay-Balkars (7.5%), Adyghe-Kabardin (7%), Chechen-Ingush (6%), Kumyks (6%), Nogays (4.5%), and North Ossetians (3.5%).

In Europe, apart from Greece, the highest frequencies are found in Italy (2%), and particularly in Liguria (6%), Campania (5%) and Calabria (4%), in Bulgaria (2%), Belarus (2%), Latvia (2%), as well as in specific regions within larger countries such as Brittany (2.5%), Catalonia (2.5%) and Asturias (2%). U3 is almost completely absent from Finland, Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Wales, and interestingly also Sardinia (despite the high level of Near Eastern ancestry among Sardinians). It is also very rare in the Maghreb, Albania or among the Druzes in the Levant, all populations with strong links to Near Eastern Neolithic farmers.

http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/mtDNA-U3-map.png

[Kelmendasi]

What about the U3 haplogroup? I belong to the U3 haplogroup, so I'm interested in finding which peoples have the highest frequency of the haplogroup.
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U3_mtDNA.shtml. "Haplogroup U3 originated over 30,000 years ago, in all likelihood among Middle Eastern nomadic hunter-gatherers. The U3a subclade is thought to have arisen some time between 18,000 and 26,000 years ago, a period corresponding to the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM).

Haplogroup U3 was present in Pre-Pottery and Early Neolithic Turkey, as well as in Chalcolithic Israel and Iran, and in Bronze Age Armenia, all regions that have high levels of U3 today. However, only a small minority of U3 has been found among the hundreds of Neolithic samples from Europe. Only six of them were identified so far, in the Starčevo culture in Hungary, the Linear Pottery culture (LBK) and the Salzmünde culture in Germany. Those whose subclade has been tested all belonged to U3a, including one U3a1. Overall haplogroup U3 showed up in less than 1% of the hundreds of Neolithic mtDNA tested. The small founding population of early agriculturalists that left Anatolia to colonise Europe may not have had much haplogroup U3 simply by chance. This is a typical founder effect.

Haplogroup U3 has so far been absent from all Mediteranean or West European Neolithic samples. Nowadays U3 is not found in the Sardinian population, which is the best modern proxy for Mediteranean Neolithic farmers.

The only oldest reported U3 sample in Mediteranean Europe (tested by Gomez-Sanchez et al. 2014) at the moment is an individual from the Burgos region in northern Spain dating from the late Chalcolithic period (2,400 BCE). However only the HVR1 region was tested for that sample and yielded a single mutation, which cannot confirm with 100% certainty that that individual was indeed U3.

The presence of U3 in Spain 4,400 years ago could be attributed to a separate Neolithic expansion from the Levant or the Arabian peninsula reaching Iberia through North Africa. These would have been essentially goat herders belonging to Y-haplogroups J1 and T1a (see also Correlating the mtDNA haplogroups of the original Y-haplogroup J1 and T1 herders ).

It is noteworthy that not a single U3 was identified among the numerous Bronze Age individuals tested from Europe and Central Asia, which strongly indicates that U3 was not found among the Indo-European invaders either. Its first appearance in eastern Europe after the Neolithic is a U3b Thracian sample from Bulgaria dated c. 800-500 BCE.

U3a1 is an almost entirely European subclade, and has a coalescence age of approximately 5,000 to 7,000 years before present, suggesting a Neolithic expansion. U3b is the main Middle Eastern and Caucasian subclade. It is also found in Italy, central and eastern Europe, including among the Romani people (Gypsies).

One possible theory for the diffusion of U3, and particularly U3b, to southern Europe is that it was brought from Anatolia to Italy by the (Ionian) Greeks and Etruscans, then spread with the Roman colonisation. The equally recent expansion and scattered presence of U3a1 from the Canary Islands and Ireland to central and eastern Europe is more difficult to explain."


http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/mtDNA-U3-map.png

[Dolofonos]

HIV positive

[Kelmendasi]

Interesting, a U3b Thracian was found

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

HV

HV is unevenly spread around Europe, being extremely rare in Finland, Scandinavia (except Iceland), the British Isles, the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Albania, and most of Iberia. The highest percentages of haplogroup HV in Europe are observed in Calabria (10%), Sicily (5%), Tuscany (5%), Sardinia (4.5%), Bulgaria (4%), southern Belarus (4%), Croatia (3.5%), Ukraine (3.5%), Iceland (3.5%), Greece (3%), Cyprus (2.5%), and Romania (2.5%).

http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/mtDNA-HV-map.png

Haplogroup HV originated at least 25,000 years ago, perhaps during the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM) like many other top-level haplogroups. The oldest evidence of haplogroup HV in Europe comes from the testing of a 13,000 year-old sample from La Pasiega in Cantabria (northern Spain), dating from the Magdalenian period (18,000-10,000 years before present) as analysed by Hervella et al. (2012), which could have belonged to haplogroup R0 or HV.

Since most Mesolithic samples from central and northern Europe tested to date were found to belong to haplogroup U (mainly U5, with some U2 and U4), it is more likely that haplogroup HV, H and V evolved from the populations of Mediterranean hunter-gatherers and only spread northward from the Neolithic period onward.

There is ample evidence that HV was found at low frequencies among Neolithic farmers both in the Near East (in Pre-Pottery Neolithic Syria) and in Europe. HV has been found in ancient samples from the the Linear Pottery culture and its descendants (Schöningen, Baalberge) in Germany and the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture in Ukraine. No HV sample other than HV0 (i.e. haplogroup V) has so far been found in the Starčevo culture, nor in the Cardium Pottery or Megalithic samples from France, Spain and Portugal though.

The Bronze Age Indo-Europeans do not seem to have carried a lot of HV lineages (i.e. other than H and V). Out of over 100 Early Bronze Age samples that have been tested to date, only one HV6'17 from the Corded Ware culture and one HV6 Unetice culture were identified, but none in the Proto-Indo-European homeland in the Pontic-Caspian Steppe.

Hughey et al. (2013) analysed 34 samples from the Minoan civilization and found three HV samples, a remarkably high 8.8% of all samples, a percentage more typical of Mesopotamia than of anywhere in Europe, except perhaps Calabria. This, along with the presence of other typically Middle Eastern lineages such as R0, I5, H5, H7, H13a1a and others, suggests that the Minoans moved straight from the Middle East to Crete during the Bronze Age. Modern Greeks have much lower levels of haplogroup HV.

Haplogroup HV appears to have prospered in Mesopotamia, and was probably an important Assyrian and Babylonian female lineage. The modern distribution of mtDNA HV is particularly reminiscent that of Y-DNA haplogroup T. Haplogroup HV is found as far south as Ethiopia and Somalia, which are also hotspots of Y-haplogroup T. This strongly suggests that maternal HV and paternal T lineages spread together from the Fertile Crescent, and notably Mesopotamia, to Egypt and the Horn of Africa, as well as to central and eastern Europe. This is especially true of the HV1 subclade. (=> See also Correlating the mtDNA haplogroups of the original Y-haplogroup J1 and T1 herders).

[Kelmendasi]

http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/mtDNA-T1-map.png

[Kriptc06]

Does anyone know where in Asia A2a peaks? thanks

[Dolofonos]

Does anyone know where in Asia A2a peaks? thanks

Andid mountains

[Ylla]

U4 is rethelitess! ;)

[Kriptc06]

Andid mountains

so its strictly american? it doesnt have an asian counterpart?

[Rethel]

U4 is rethelitess! ;)

Whole alphabet can be Rethelitesses...

[Noman]

U7

[oszkar07]

Mine according to FTDNA = H1m

Mother is of British stock but I think read somewhere that H1m is common amongst Iberians, I got 2.3% Iberian in My Heritage results and 4.2% Iberian/Sardinian in DnaLand , so maybe there is a connection.

[Voskos]

Mine according to FTDNA = H1m

Mother is of British stock but I think read somewhere that H1m is common amongst Iberians, I got 2.3% Iberian in My Heritage results and 4.2% Iberian/Sardinian in DnaLand , so maybe there is a maternal connection with the Mtdna.

have seen one or two Italians get H1m but I'm not sure.

[Enflamme]

U2e1a

[Kriptc06]

D1 according to Jameslick and matches.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=67497&d=1505351882

[SergioSergius]

According to YSEQ laboratory, I am K1a.

[Longobarda]

OK, just got my results--I went cheap and only did the HVR1 tested for now.

So, I'm an H.

Yawn. ;)

With just the HVR1 tested, I'm only one position away from the Cambridge Reference Sequence....

The furthest back I can trace my materal line via the paper trail is to a woman by the name of Sarah McFadyen who was born circa 1797 & died in 1860 in Tignish, Prince Edward Island, Canada. I have not yet been able to place her family in the Old World but I suspect either Ireland or the west coast of Scotland. Many McFadyens who moved to Canada came from the Isle of Mull off the west coast of Scotland.

I've been in Mull Island, and then to Iona Island. Mull is a round almost tree-less place. To arrive there I took a ferry that was swinging between fjords. Iona which is reachable by simple boats (very near to Mull) is a small Island very green, where you can see sheeps eating grass near the beach. There is a very nice Abbey and a cimitery where 8 saxon kings are buried. Is a very sacred place for christians, as Santa Columba, coming from Ireland, landed here by boat so that this is the first place of U.K. to be christianized by him.

[Maintenance]

J master race

[Blanka]

The very common H, but just because it's fun, let's decorate it like a Christmas tree:

H11a2a

My cluster is the northern part of Sweden and Norway, and Scotland.

[spik]

J1b1a1

[Gangrel]

R0a2

[Dibran]

Mtdna full sequence H11a2

[Dibran]

The very common H, but just because it's fun, let's decorate it like a Christmas tree:

H11a2a

My cluster is the northern part of Sweden and Norway, and Scotland.

Interesting. My Mtdna just goes up to H11a2 with full sequence. Our closest clustered matches are 2 unknowns, one Italian, and one Norwegian and a person from England. I am obv the Albanian kit.

https://s14.postimg.org/5nrjeg5ht/h11a2.jpg

[Blanka]

Interesting. My Mtdna just goes up to H11a2 with full sequence. Our closest clustered matches are 2 unknowns, one Italian, and one Norwegian and a person from England. I am obv the Albanian kit.

https://s14.postimg.org/5nrjeg5ht/h11a2.jpg

There are several different clusters in Europe upstream, downstream as well as others with the designation I have. HVR1 (with both H11a2a and H11a2a1) is mainly in Scandinavia and the UK with stray hits in Germany and France. HVR2 and full sequence shows Sweden, Norway and Scotland (H11a2a). Interestingly there are greater distances within Sweden, than outside. I have direct matches in Norway and one step to Scotland, and naturally a number of direct matches in Sweden too, but the perhaps best known H11a2a, the Burträsk one, is two steps away.

[Dolofonos]

Mtdna full sequence H11a1 which is obviously Slavic and I am a Slav.

https://i.imgur.com/StXZ6Cc.jpg

[Dibran]

There are several different clusters in Europe upstream, downstream as well as others with the designation I have. HVR1 (with both H11a2a and H11a2a1) is mainly in Scandinavia and the UK with stray hits in Germany and France. HVR2 and full sequence shows Sweden, Norway and Scotland (H11a2a). Interestingly there are greater distances within Sweden, than outside. I have direct matches in Norway and one step to Scotland, and naturally a number of direct matches in Sweden too, but the perhaps best known H11a2a, the Burträsk one, is two steps away.

Very interesting. I wonder how it got to Albania. My matches range from all over northern and western and eastern Europe, to southern Europe. Judging by some of my closest matches I am guessing Austro-Hungarian Empire?

Are you could at interpreting? I can't tell for the life of me how to interpret the distance between me and the other samples.

[Blanka]

Very interesting. I wonder how it got to Albania. My matches range from all over northern and western and eastern Europe, to southern Europe. Judging by some of my closest matches I am guessing Austro-Hungarian Empire?

Are you could at interpreting? I can't tell for the life of me how to interpret the distance between me and the other samples.

I'm leaning on the full test I did because that told me the distances within the group. The other information I have is from the Swedish DNA project and their 2016 December issue where they went over H11a2a-C16519T in northern Europe. Here's a map over the haplogroup with its mutations:

https://s26.postimg.org/gsx7rucuh/h11a2a.png (https://postimages.org/)

I belong to the un-mutated branch, and I have hits in the downstream H11a2a1, all with origins on the British Isles, too. Just how that happens and the precise migration of the carriers of this haplogroup and when mutations occurred is somewhat of a mystery. I have an idea, but it's not something that I'm holding as truth, simply a private speculation. For now I can only hope more people will test so we can get more insight.

If you tested with FTDNA, joining the H11 project might be a good idea. I don't know how productive James Lick's site would be, but you could look into that as well. (x) (https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/) I have only double checked my FTDNA results using that site myself.

[Rethel]

:bored:

[kingjohn]

:bored:

:rotfl:

[calxpal]

I'm MtDNA haplogroup T2a, anyone know anything interesting about it? =D :wink:coffee:

[Bobby Martnen]

I wish I knew

[Dolofonos]

H11a1 from a beautiful Slavic and Serb momma :kiss::flower

https://i.imgur.com/1drLShd.jpg

[Bobby Martnen]

H11a1 from a beautiful Slavic and Serb momma :kiss::flower

https://i.imgur.com/1drLShd.jpg

I know my dad is H lol

[MercifulServant]

No Idea

[Freeroostah]

J1c......whatever that means lol

[Armenian Bishop]

Mine is Haplogroup U8b. Haplogroup K is a Subclade of U8. It's found in the Levant, in West Asia (including Armenia), and in Italy too. It may well have originated in the Armenian Highlands.

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Haplogroup_U_(mtDNA)

[Bakha]

K1a4a1 - northern/western european

[Mingle]

U2c1, from the Indus Valley Civilization. Here is what 23andMe says about U2c:


Haplogroup U2 is an older branch of haplogroup U that traces back to a woman who likely lived in the Middle East about 43,000 years ago. Today, most of its branches (U2a, U2b, U2c) are concentrated in southern and southwestern Asia, with the exception of one – U2e, which is found in Europe and Central Asia.

In Southern Asia, the U2 haplogroup traces back to the original inhabitants of the Indus River valley, who arrived in the area not long after humans first expanded beyond Africa. The haplogroup reaches levels of 15% in locations from the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh to the island nation of Sri Lanka, off India's southeastern coast. U2c is highest along the eastern coast of India, with another concentration among the Sindhi of southern Pakistan.

[Armenian Bishop]

* 23andMe said this about Haplogroup U8b:

Your maternal haplogroup, U8b, traces back to a woman who lived approximately 38,000 years ago. That's nearly 1520 generations ago! What happened between then and now? As researchers and citizen scientists discover more about your haplogroup, new details may be added to the story of your maternal line ... U8b is relatively uncommon among 23andMe customers.

Haplogroup U8 was carried into Europe about 40,000 years ago by some of the first modern humans to inhabit that continent.

[Zroota]

H2.

[CelticCrystalmoon]

I am Haplogroup J1c Subclade J1c8a . I am new to this not exactly sure what it means.

[Armenian Bishop]

My cousin Judy's Haplogroup is H1, and the same with her daughter. Judy's ancestry is 100% Armenian. Her dad has the lineage that's linked to me, and my MtDNA is U8b, so Judy surely got the H1 from her mother.

[Art23]

H.

[Wrong]

H women were clearly more attractive as they are more numerous.


As for the average U woman:
https://image.slidesharecdn.com/upperpaleolithicvenusfigurines-160424214421/95/upper-paleolithic-venus-figurines-2-638.jpg?cb=1461534330

[Dibran]

H11a2* - More specifically +146(a yet undefined subclade common in the Balkans, so far samples from Montenegro, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Romania, Serbia and now Albania)

https://s7.postimg.cc/xxvmfm7mz/h11a2.png

[Dolofonos]

H11a2* - More specifically +146(a yet undefined subclade common in the Balkans)

https://s7.postimg.cc/xxvmfm7mz/h11a2.png

What is that from? You should do full sequence test

[Dibran]

What is that from? You should do full sequence test

I did do full sequence. There is this guy who specialized in MTDNA reports since alot of people don;t really care for it. He has a whole database where he generates stuff like the above. Heres his email. Should provide you with all the details:

mtdnawiki@gmail.com

[Dibran]

What is that from? You should do full sequence test

Heres my cluster on ftdna. I assume these are my matches but they all appear to be 3 steps. I am the Albania sample at the bottom.

https://s7.postimg.cc/tejdui2qj/h11a21_LI.jpg

https://s7.postimg.cc/61pxpk497/h11a22_LI.jpg

[Dolofonos]

Heres my cluster on ftdna. I assume these are my matches but they all appear to be 3 steps. I am the Albania sample at the bottom.

https://s7.postimg.cc/tejdui2qj/h11a21_LI.jpg

https://s7.postimg.cc/61pxpk497/h11a22_LI.jpg

Odd mix. My closest 2 step are Polacks rest other Slavs

[Dibran]

Odd mix. My closest 2 step are Polacks rest other Slavs

My mom has a huge western pull. Gets Scandinavian in almost every admixture. We have some matches from a Kosova Bulgaria, Austria Hungary and Croatia but for some reason they don’t come up here. Maybe they didn’t join H project.

[happycow]

k1a12a

[Art23]

I did do full sequence. There is this guy who specialized in MTDNA reports since alot of people don;t really care for it. He has a whole database where he generates stuff like the above. Heres his email. Should provide you with all the details:
mtdnawiki@gmail.com

Ann Turner offers mtDNA reports too, more focused on medical information, a sample report here:
https://isogg.org/wiki/Custom_mitochondrial_DNA_reports

[Art23]

H11a1 from a beautiful Slavic and Serb momma :kiss::flower


A nice map of matches!

My mom is Slavic and Ukrainian :) , but the exact match is from Western Europe.

75568

[TheMaestro]

MyHeritage wont reveal such information sadly, stupid company

[Dibran]

Odd mix. My closest 2 step are Polacks rest other Slavs

How far back is exact match?!? I haven't looked at this map in like 5 months and now I have a shit ton of red exact matches lol: Wait false alarm lol. It was just on HRV1 lol
https://s7.postimg.cc/ekdmisdy3/mtdnamatches.png

[Dolofonos]

How far back is exact match?!? I haven't looked at this map in like 5 months and now I have a shit ton of red exact matches lol: Wait false alarm lol. It was just on HRV1 lol
https://s7.postimg.cc/ekdmisdy3/mtdnamatches.png

i dont know. I never asked anyone. my HRV1 matches are mostly Finns.

https://i.imgur.com/GTlxX3r.jpg


I found this though, Also dont forget not every match you have did the full test.



Testing Level Matching Level
Generations to Common Ancestor
50% Confidence Interval 95% Confidence Interval
mtDNA HVR1 52 (about 1,300 years) — NA*
mtDNAPlus HVR1 & HVR2 28 (about 700 years) — NA*
mtFullSequence HVR1, HVR2, & Coding Region 5 (about 125 years) 22 (about 550 years)

https://www.familytreedna.com/tr_mtDNA.pdf

[Elco]

J1c (according to 23andMe)

[Dibran]

i dont know. I never asked anyone. my HRV1 matches are mostly Finns.

https://i.imgur.com/GTlxX3r.jpg


I found this though, Also dont forget not every match you have did the full test.




https://www.familytreedna.com/tr_mtDNA.pdf

Interesting. Yea I imagine then that it may not be accurate.

[Ylla]

How far back is exact match?!? I haven't looked at this map in like 5 months and now I have a shit ton of red exact matches lol: Wait false alarm lol. It was just on HRV1 lol
https://s7.postimg.cc/ekdmisdy3/mtdnamatches.png

I'm thinking to test mine only because it's so rare and unusual. What info do they provide at ftDNA (If that's where you tested) ?

[Ylla]

H women were clearly more attractive as they are more numerous.


As for the average U woman:
https://image.slidesharecdn.com/upperpaleolithicvenusfigurines-160424214421/95/upper-paleolithic-venus-figurines-2-638.jpg?cb=1461534330

Interesting,
you think haplogroup affects phenotypes and body shapes? mtDNA only contributes a small amount though but it will be cool if we can find a link between endomorph or ectomorphs etc. !
I believe thats a Venus figurine,how they interpreted a sexual figure in the paleolithic (They seem to fetishise big breasts!).

[Ylla]

There is a theory that my haplogroup came with the Magyars to Balkans, my matches on 23andme are from Hungary and northern Serbia. According to 23andme,




Recent research suggests that during ancient times, conquering armies carried haplogroup U4 to new parts of the world. In Hungary, the haplogroup has been found at levels of 18% in DNA isolated from the 10th and 11th century tombs of Magyar conquerors who invaded the country around the turn of the 10th century. Yet U4 was nonexistent in the graves of commoners who were buried at that time, and it is present at levels of only about 4% among Hungarians today. That pattern suggests that the Magyars, who introduced their language to Hungary, were never very numerous in spite of their cultural influence. It also helps explain why Hungarians have a language that is distinct from other eastern European tongues, even though they are fairly similar to their neighbors genetically.

[Coolguy1]

K1a I believe, is this common for southern Greece?

[Art23]

K1a I believe, is this common for southern Greece?

It is quite rare for southern Greece where you would meet more H, U, J and T's.

[Coolguy1]

It is quite rare for southern Greece where you would meet more H, U, J and T's.

I didnt know that. I know some neolithic samples from Greece were K1a. Where is this haplogroup most commonly found today?

[Art23]

Where is this haplogroup most commonly found today?

I believe there are many subclades of K1a specifically typical for certain territories: from Middle East up to British Isles. Technically, a native Greek from Peloponnese can be K1a, but this is not a majority nowadays. :) Among neighbours, Italians have it more than Greeks, as far as I know.

[Rocinante]

If you download Imported VCF file of DNA.LAND, upload to https://haplogrep.uibk.ac.at/ it will give you the mtDNA. It gave me H2a2a1 (50% prob.), don't know from where it is.

[Art23]

It gave me H2a2a1 (50% prob.), don't know from where it is.

This is the Cambridge reference sequence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Reference_Sequence

This is most likely not your haplogroup, this is given by default for all.

[Jana]

My boyfriend is mtDNA R, very rare maternal haplogroup.

[apcar]

If you download Imported VCF file of DNA.LAND, upload to https://haplogrep.uibk.ac.at/ it will give you the mtDNA. It gave me H2a2a1 (50% prob.), don't know from where it is.

Thanks for these links. Didn't know about these sites.

I am M35b. There is virtually no information on it, other than it is found in East India down to Sri Lanka. Gypsies are usually M35A if I remember correctly. I have 0 matches on FTDNA.

[Rocinante]

This is the Cambridge reference sequence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Reference_Sequence

This is most likely not your haplogroup, this is given by default for all.

Thank you, it also gives me another haplogroup, H2a2a1a but with 0% quality, nothing to trust.

[Thorns]

23andme said H, but nothing more.

I don't know how reliable that James slick predictor is but it predicted H28a. I honestly know nothing about it.

[Art23]

My boyfriend is mtDNA R, very rare maternal haplogroup.

Has he roots in North Africa or Middle East ?

[Jana]

Has he roots in North Africa or Middle East ?

His maternal ancestry is Croatian :)

[Art23]

Then it's weird. :)

[nittionia]

K2a5... where is this typical?

[IncelSlayer]

My boyfriend is mtDNA R, very rare maternal haplogroup.

LMFAO R is ancestral South asian mtdna.And then you wonder why Stears scores s.asian on gedmatch...

[Jana]

LMFAO R is ancestral South asian mtdna.And then you wonder why Stears scores s.asian on gedmatch...

I don't think so. Croats from Dalmatia have zero south asian.

[IncelSlayer]

I don't think so. Croats from Dalmatia have zero south asian.

So where do you think Stears picked his gypsy admixture then?

[Jana]

So where do you think Stears picked his gypsy admixture then?

In Romania. :D

[Carpatz]

In Romania. :D

So in the end he is a vlach-cuman himself. If you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back at you

[Jana]

So in the end he is a vlach-cuman himself. If you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back at you

There nothing wrong if Szekely have some Romanian admixture. I personally think they do, even if they look different from Romanians.
Stears is clearly pulled southeastern from Hungary proper, and I see no other explanation to that.

[IncelSlayer]

In Romania. :D

You think he has bulibasha ancestry?You said he has noble ancestry from Romania.

[Carpatz]

There nothing wrong if Szekely have some Romanian admixture. I personally think they do, even if they look different from Romanians.
Stears is clearly pulled southeastern from Hungary proper, and I see no other explanation to that.

Interesting theory. Does he plot east or west of me?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?197107-Post-Eurogenes-k15-individualized-PCA-mapping-coordinates&p=5421174&viewfull=1#post5421174


You think he has bulibasha ancestry?You said he has noble ancestry from Romania.

LMFAO

[Jana]

You think he has bulibasha ancestry?You said he has noble ancestry from Romania.

I was joking. Stears south asian is from Tatar like ancestry. There was Norwegian user on Anhtrogenica who saw his south asian score and asked me if I could send list of his DNA cousins to explore potential Gypsy ancestry.
He has tons of Romani and Romani mixed samples in his database, And guess what, Stears has no connection with any of them.

http://oi64.tinypic.com/bijyjb.jpg

[Jana]

Interesting theory. Does he plot east or west of me?

He is eastern from you, slightly left from Moldovan dot.

[Dolofonos]

H11a1

[Maintenance]

He is eastern from you, slightly left from Moldovan dot.

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh