Classify Kazakh hockey player Vadim Krasnoslobodtsev

[Welter]

100% Russian
Height: 1.90m


http://im9.asset.yvimg.kz/userimages/ragazzo/qjyJ2bDbcavHh9g3kd15w98SkBkpCj.jpg
http://img.championat.com/news/big/q/q/vadim-krasnoslobodcev_13434123461111251815400.jpg
http://www.lenta.kz/image.php?res=sport&type=landscape&img=35291&w=350&h=&center=0

[sashahappy]

East Nordid

[leisitox]

East-Nordid+minor CM influence(Faelid)

[aherne]

Aryan, of course.

[Sarmatian]

East Nordid

[Sikeliot]

East Nordid.

[Food]

East Nordid

[Austrvegr]

100% Russian

[Turkish mode on]How do you know he is Russian? He may be a Kazakh descended from the original blond blue-eyed Turks.[/Turkish mode off]

[Saruman]

Aryan.

[Onur]

[Turkish mode on]How do you know he is Russian? He may be a Kazakh descended from the original blond blue-eyed Turks.[/Turkish mode off]
Yes we will always activate that mode while Russia is a giant federation with a size bigger than continents;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Russian_Federation_%28orthographic_projection%29.s vg/500px-Russian_Federation_%28orthographic_projection%29.s vg.png

And while it`s a fact that your state russified gazillions of different ethnic groups like Baltics, Turkics, Caucasians since Tsarist and communist eras.

Russia is not a nation state, never been as such. You shouldn't complain about us activating that mode as long as you continue to have a country as big as a continent.

[tEhSaint]

Plain looking. Depigmented Aurignacid, hence the pseudo CM and archaic look. Probably, a product of steppes.

[Saruman]

Plain looking. Depigmented Aurignacid, hence the pseudo CM and archaic look. Probably, a product of steppes.

He doesn't look pure Aurignacid. Aryan race incorporated CM elements in it's formation.

[sevruk]

Russia is not a nation state, never been as such. You shouldn't complain about us activating that mode as long as you continue to have a country as big as a continent.

Russia was a nation-state up to the USSR
Modern Russia is a federal state, but the percentage of ethnic Russian in Russia is more than ethnic Turks in Turkey. :D

[Austrvegr]

Yes we will always activate that mode while Russia is a giant federation with a size bigger than continents;


Russia is a monoethnic state with >80% of ethnic Russians.



And while it`s a fact that your state russified gazillions of different ethnic groups like Baltics, Turkics, Caucasians since Tsarist and communist eras.


Turks being Turkified non-Turks are the last people to accuse someone of assimilation.

Russians are genetically homogeneous people and show no signs of extensive assimilation of Turkics or Caucasians.



Russia is not a nation state, never been as such.


Russia had been a Russian nation state for centuries up to 1917, when Turkey became a nation state.


You shouldn't complain about us activating that mode as long as you continue to have a country as big as a continent.


That's none of your business. Go back to your Turkic homeland, Inner Mongolia.

[tEhSaint]

He doesn't look pure Aurignacid. Aryan race incorporated CM elements in it's formation.

So, Aryan= pred. Depigmented Aurignacid with slight to none CM tendencies ?

Riiight, i am getting there. Gotta love all these Aryan theories.

Aryans, norics , etc

teh laughs...

[Skrondsze]

Perfect East-Nordid exemple.

[Saruman]

So, Aryan= pred. Depigmented Aurignacid with slight to none CM tendencies ?


No Aryan = depigmented robust Aurignacid with a number of specific traits with some (not none for sure) CM tendencies that are often "suppressed" and harmonized.

[Sultan Suleiman]

Aryan, of course.

WTF is an "Aryan"?

[Dengizik]

That's none of your business. Go back to your Turkic homeland, Inner Mongolia.

THREAD CAN BE CLOSED.

when you all stop saying that in every discussion, i will really go inner mongolia someday. :picard2:

[Sultan Suleiman]

Russia is a monoethnic state with >80% of ethnic Russians.

You have to be out of your fucking mind to believe that :D




Turks being Turkified non-Turks are the last people to accuse someone of assimilation.

Yup, this is where you got him. "Turks" of Turkey don't look Turkish :cool:

[Onur]

Russia is a monoethnic state with >80% of ethnic Russians.

Russians are genetically homogeneous people

Russia had been a Russian nation state for centuries up to 1917
Russia is a mono-ethnic and homogenous state and your former Tsarist empire was a mono-ethnic Russian nation with 30 million km2 lands?!??!:picard1:

OK, i see that there is absolutely no need to discuss anything with you.

[Austrvegr]

You have to be out of your fucking mind to believe that :D

I do not need to believe anything, Russian census data is freely available. Now tell me, why do Turks carefully conceal percentages of ethnic communities in the population of Turkey?

[Davy Jones's Locker]

East Nordid.

[aherne]

Russians make up 83% of the population (incl. "Ukrainians" and "Belarussians"). The vast majority look and are pure Slavic. Compared to Poles, who are supposed to be pure Slavs, Russians look closer to Old Slavs (and this hockey player is a good example), despite they are spread to such vast territories and supposedly mixed with so many non-Slavs.

In these days, at least among Russians, there is a racial trend of reversion towards Old Slavic means. Today already, there are much more "Nordids" proportionally among Russians than Scandinavians. In a hundred years, if trend continues, Aryan rather than Baltid will be the dominant phenotype. For some reason, there is no such trend in other parts of Europe: Poles today or Germans today or Swedes today are as "Nordid" as they were 100 years ago.

Just the thought of a big strong nation with looks like Dementieva, Tursunov or this Krasnoslobodtsev makes me happy and Jews very unhappy:)

[tEhSaint]

WTF is an "Aryan"?

Good question!

i like these aryans for example, pick yours...

http://i50.tinypic.com/726geb.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/117r3nn.jpg

;)

[Hayalet]

Russia is a monoethnic state with >80% of ethnic Russians.
By self identification, sure. But by your usual Nordicist phenotypical criteria for ethnicity, not a chance.


Modern Russia is a federal state, but the percentage of ethnic Russian in Russia is more than ethnic Turks in Turkey. :D
Nope, the percentage of Turks seems to be greater even if by a small margin, 82.85% vs 80.90%.

[Zmey Gorynych]

very good example of East-Nordid with a respectable height (appropriate for his phenotype)

[sevruk]

By self identification, sure. But by your usual Nordicist phenotypical criteria for ethnicity, not a chance.


Nope, the percentage of Turks seems to be greater even if by a small margin, 82.85% vs 80.90%.

there is no official data on the number of Turks in Turkey.


and all your Turks are stupid, because the creator of the national Turkish state was not ethnic Turks :D

[Not a Cop]

East-nordid with tendecy towards Corded

[Sharkeatpeople]

Very dinaromorf. and robust.Corded+East Nordic.

[sevruk]

Very dinaromorf. and robust.Corded+East Nordic.

I do not see very dinaromorf

http://yvision.kz/images/post/special/photo/c6/c688bad6e93eae7254070b781e597fd5-preview.jpg
http://sport.gazeta.kz/preview/?s=20&w=400&h=400&fid=35291

[Roy]

East Nordid, he can pass only in Eastern Europe.

[Sharkeatpeople]

I do not see very dinaromorf

http://yvision.kz/images/post/special/photo/c6/c688bad6e93eae7254070b781e597fd5-preview.jpg
http://sport.gazeta.kz/preview/?s=20&w=400&h=400&fid=35291

long narrow face, big convex nose,if you remove depigmentation and reduce his C.I., you get Dinaric.

BUT!

you need to understand, what Dinaromorph not equal Dinarid,this feature is characteristic for Corded type also.

[Mehmet]

That guy looks Varangian. Not even Slav.
The Russian ruling class and even Czar family claimed to be Varangian/Rurik and considered to be Slav as shame and inferiority.
When you simply read Russian novels from 19th century, they describe all Russian Bourgeois families to have a portrait of certain Rurik ruler hanging on the wall, in the living room.
Bolshevik Jewish leaders even posed the Slavic nationalism as anti-Bourgeois for these reasons. That's why Russians, Belarussians are harshly Communist even today.


"Assimilated blond Turks' isn't a senseless assertion.
The steppes of Russia and Ukraine were full of Kypchak people at some point in the history.
They were actually light in terms of feature.

e.g. Baybars. He was a Kypchak guy whose families had been killed, raped by Mongol invaders.
Mongols sold him to Arab merchants as slave.
He, and many others, ended up in Egypt as Mameluk ('white slave').
They got the power there; Baybars even became Sultan. He defeated the Mongols at Ayn Jalut and also destroyed Knight Templars' stronghold in Kerak.

And Baybars was a red haired, blue-eyed guy.

Western Turkics got Slavicized and Christianized some centuries ago. There were also Khazars there; Jews also took their share obviously.

That's not a problem. Wouldn't be a problem.
But in Turkey you have still nomadic Turks (settling as sedentary for the last 100 years). Very endogamic and tribalist people.
Some of them are sometimes blondy, blue-eyed very light when it comes to features etc.. People don't believe they aren't produced out of recent Slavic admixture (like Bosniak).

[sevruk]

That guy looks Varangian. Not even Slav.

Nonsense. Judging by his surname this guy southern Russian origin, and therefore 0% Scandinavian origin.

In addition Rurikid proud Slavic

[Sharkeatpeople]

I do not see very dinaromorf

http://yvision.kz/images/post/special/photo/c6/c688bad6e93eae7254070b781e597fd5-preview.jpg
http://sport.gazeta.kz/preview/?s=20&w=400&h=400&fid=35291
For example, Corded type
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/sharkeatpeople/image_zps5c970d85.jpg
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/sharkeatpeople/image_zps59bc0ad5.jpg

[Mehmet]

Blonde, blue-eyed Slavs do not look like that guy.
Such Slavs look typically like Poles or Belarussians. They have different eyes and nose shape.

That guy would easily fit in Sweden, Denmark or the North-Western part of Germany.

He's a 'lost viking'.

:) If Germans take and assimilate him they would be rightful in doing so.

[Tooting Carmen]

Looks rather like Scottish-Australian actor Jordan Smith
http://wwwcdn.channel5.com/assets/images/000/013/055/full_left_column_andrew.jpg?1309969328

[Sharkeatpeople]

That guy would easily fit in Sweden, Denmark or the North-Western part of Germany.
.
Agree

[sevruk]

For example, Corded type
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/sharkeatpeople/image_zps5c970d85.jpg
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/sharkeatpeople/image_zps59bc0ad5.jpg

Berger looks more dinaromorf

[Sharkeatpeople]

Berger looks more dinaromorf

Because he more Corded:)

[Roy]

Blonde, blue-eyed Slavs do not look like that guy.
Such Slavs look typically like Poles or Belarussians. They have different eyes and nose shape.

That guy would easily fit in Sweden, Denmark or the North-Western part of Germany.

He's a 'lost viking'.

:) If Germans take and assimilate him they would be rightful in doing so.

No, the guy looks Russian. He would be even atypical in Poland but could pass.

[sevruk]

Blonde, blue-eyed Slavs do not look like that guy.
Such Slavs look typically like Poles or Belarussians. They have different eyes and nose shape.

That guy would easily fit in Sweden, Denmark or the North-Western part of Germany.

He's a 'lost viking'.

:) If Germans take and assimilate him they would be rightful in doing so.

Belarussians
http://s51.radikal.ru/i134/1203/0b/26084fba4ba6.jpg
http://www.imageup.ru/img207/988883/x_3fd05304.jpg
http://s58.radikal.ru/i162/1108/14/95132a8a80a5.jpg
http://s44.radikal.ru/i104/1207/ab/ea2885da1c66.jpg
http://www.wildlife.by/sites/default/files/Elena/X-00762.jpg
http://s55.radikal.ru/i148/1003/d9/243d8070a5bf.jpg
http://content.onliner.by/news/2013/06/default/f53c65735ba563384c838a2c2d7f00e4.jpg

[Mehmet]

No, the guy looks very Russian. He would be even atypical in Poland but could pass.

If you listen to Russians, everyone from that guy until Soviet Leader Leonid Brezhnev is pure 'Russian' (whatever it means).
Let's be clear.

Out of the 110 million ethnic Russians in Russia, there are around 1-2 million Nordics who would pass as Scandinavian.
That guy is one of them.
Another 15-20 million looking like Poles or Belarussians ('pure Slavs').

The rest are combination between various other things (sometimes including the two elements above) like Ugrics, Tatars, Chuvash and anything.

Why is he in Kazakhstan? Why deported there?
Volga German or Gulagh (former Bourgeois 'Russian', claiming Viking ancestry)?

[sevruk]

If you listen to Russians, everyone from that guy until Soviet Leader Leonid Brezhnev is pure 'Russian' (whatever it means).
Let's be clear.

Out of the 110 million ethnic Russians in Russia, there are around 1-2 million Nordics who would pass as Scandinavian.
That guy is one of them.
Another 15-20 million looking like Poles or Belarussians ('pure Slavs').

The rest are combination between various other things (sometimes including the two elements above) like Ugrics, Tatars, Chuvash and anything.

Why is he in Kazakhstan? Why deported there?
Volga German or Gulagh (former Bourgeois 'Russian', claiming Viking ancestry)?

you are a typical dumb Turk xD

[Roy]

If you listen to Russians, everyone from that guy until Soviet Leader Leonid Brezhnev is pure 'Russian' (whatever it means).
Let's be clear.

Out of the 110 million ethnic Russians in Russia, there are around 1-2 million Nordics who would pass as Scandinavian.
That guy is one of them.
Another 15-20 million looking like Poles or Belarussians ('pure Slavs').

The rest are combination between various other things (sometimes including the two elements above) like Ugrics, Tatars, Chuvash and anything.

Why is he in Kazakhstan? Why deported there?
Volga German or Gulagh (former Bourgeois 'Russian', claiming Viking ancestry)?


The fact that Russians look Slavic (this is easy to comprehend as they're the biggest Slavic nation) does not make equal with Poles, but we're closely related so we look similar in large part.
I don't know what is your method of judging it or estimating that invented numbers.

[Hayalet]

and all your Turks are stupid, because the creator of the national Turkish state was not ethnic Turks :D
What are you talking about? Of course they were.

[sevruk]

What are you talking about? Of course they were.

when Albanian-Ataturk became ethnic Turk? What is general "ethnic Turks"?

[Hayalet]

when Albanian-Ataturk became ethnic Turk? What is general "ethnic Turks"?
Ataturk had absolutely nothing to do with Albanians.

[Smeagol]

East Nordid.

[sevruk]

Ataturk had absolutely nothing to do with Albanians.

His father was Albanian or Jew, I do not know what's worse :D

[Hayalet]

His father was Albanian or Jew, I do not know what's worse :D
All his known ancestors were Turkish. The speculation of Jewish ancestry was made up by butthurt Islamists, Albanian/Slavic ancestry by clueless Westerners.

[Twistedmind]

If you listen to Russians, everyone from that guy until Soviet Leader Leonid Brezhnev is pure 'Russian' (whatever it means).
Let's be clear.

Out of the 110 million ethnic Russians in Russia, there are around 1-2 million Nordics who would pass as Scandinavian.
That guy is one of them.
Another 15-20 million looking like Poles or Belarussians ('pure Slavs').

The rest are combination between various other things (sometimes including the two elements above) like Ugrics, Tatars, Chuvash and anything.

Why is he in Kazakhstan? Why deported there?
Volga German or Gulagh (former Bourgeois 'Russian', claiming Viking ancestry)?

He does not look Scandinavian for start. And, no, he is not Rurikid, so I doubt any Swedish ancestry. Eastern Nordid =/= Halstat Nordid or Tronder.

[Mehmet]

All his known ancestors were Turkish. The speculation of Jewish ancestry was made up by butthurt Islamists, Albanian/Slavic ancestry by clueless Westerners.

He was mixed. He did show Turanid facial features but also had local ancestry.


when Albanian-Ataturk became ethnic Turk? What is general "ethnic Turks"?

:) What is ethnic Russian?
Start explaining that.
Lenin? Leonid Brezhnev?
Or this lost Viking guy you deported to Kazakhstan?
Or maybe Armenians like Sergey Lavrov (swarthy ethnic Russian maybe)?

[Twistedmind]

What is ethnic Russian?
Start explaining that.
Lenin?
Leonid Brezhnev?
Neither is ethnic Russian. :D At least not pure.




Or this lost Viking guy you deported to Kazakhstan?


:picard1:




Or maybe Armenians like Sergey Lavrov?
Armenians? I tought his mother was Georgian.

[sevruk]

All his known ancestors were Turkish.

in your dreams



Or this lost Viking guy you deported to Kazakhstan?

You're stupid. Get some education

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Kazakhstan#Early_colonization

[gregorius]

Neither is ethnic Russian. :D At least not pure.



:picard1:


Armenians? I tought his mother was Georgian.

No she was Armenian who lived in Georgia,

edit: the father was armenian

Lavrov was born in Moscow on 21 March 1950[3] to an Armenian father from Tbilisi[4][5] and a Russian mother from Georgia

[Mehmet]

http://sport.gazeta.kz/preview/?s=20&w=400&h=400&fid=35291

That guy looks typical Northern Germanic.
Nothing Slav about him.

That's not that he's even Pole or Belarussian (you could have understood at some point).

He's 'proud ethnic Russian' !

When Sevruk saw the Bosnian guy in the Turkish national football team, Semih Kaya, he didn't wait a second before jumping and telling 'lost Slavic'.
Well yeah but he doesn't like when you mention 'Lost vikings' in Russia.

[Trun]

Armenians? I tought his mother was Georgian.

He is half Armenian, half Russian.

And what is Brezhnev? I thought he is Ukrainian.


http://sport.gazeta.kz/preview/?s=20&w=400&h=400&fid=35291

That guy looks typical Northern Germanic.
Nothing Slav about him.


One of my best friends looks like this and he is ethnic Bulgarian with distant Albanian and Greek admixture. Such people can be seen all across Europe. Ever heard of recessive genes?

[Hayalet]

He was mixed. He did show Turanid facial features but also had local ancestry.
Ultimately all Turks have local ancestry, but his immediate ancestors were all Turkish.

[Twistedmind]

He is half Armenian, half Russian.
I saw him holding speech in Georgian in Tbilisy, and they said his mother was born there. Gregor explained it, I guess.



And what is Brezhnev? I thought he is Ukrainian.

Seems he was:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/a/ac/Brezhnev_LI_ListKadr_1942.jpg

On topic of Lenin, lol. He was of Swedish, Russian, Oriat , Jewish and German acestry. :D Question for milion dolars with wom he would cluster at PCA plots.

[sevruk]

http://sport.gazeta.kz/preview/?s=20&w=400&h=400&fid=35291

That guy looks typical Northern Germanic.


This guy typical Russian/Slavic. Fuck off troll.

[Trun]

On topic of Lenin, lol. He was of Swedish, Russian, Oriat , Jewish and German acestry. :D Question for milion dolars with wom he would cluster at PCA plots.

RussiaPrussia?

[Mehmet]

This guy typical Russian/Slavic. Fuck off troll.

Yeah you wish. Masturbate on his pic.

The typical Russian is Leonid Brezhnev with some dirty blond hair.
Possibly looking like Putin.
Nothing else.

A few forcibely assimilated Varangians doesn't change that, for the 110 million strong 'proud Slavic ethnic Russians'.

[sevruk]

Yeah you wish. Masturbate on his pic.

The typical Russian is Leonid Brezhnev with some dirty blond hair.
Possibly looking like Putin.
Nothing else.

A few forcibely assimilated Varangians doesn't change that, for the 110 million strong 'proud Slavic ethnic Russians'.

Turks look like niggers xD

[Mehmet]

Turks look like niggers xD

Nyet. Part Mongol yes but no nigger.
Part Mongol is normal for us, but not for proud Slavs like Russians are supposed to be.
huh?

[Not a Cop]

Nyet. Part Mongol yes but no nigger.
Part Mongol is normal for us, but not for proud Slavs like Russians are supposed to be.
huh?

Hey, ahmed, why are you so butthurt - were you beaten up by slavs in your immigrant shithole?


Because he more Corded:)

Not really, Corded people were rather robust, so both of them could pass equally easily

[sevruk]

Nyet. Part Mongol yes but no nigger.
Part Mongol is normal for us, but not for proud Slavs like Russians are supposed to be.
huh?

Turk looks Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Balkanic, Arab, Negro but not Mongol xD
While we are looking East Slavic

[Trun]

The typical Russian is Leonid Brezhnev with some dirty blond hair.

Hardly. Brezhnev looks like Tatar or something. He is quite atypical for Ukrainian too.

[Mehmet]

Turk looks Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Balkanic, Arab, Negro but not Mongol xD
While we are looking East Slavic

Unlike you, Turks still look what their ancestors looked, when they left Turkmenistan 1000 years ago.

You have got so much Mongoloid through time, as 'proud pure Slavs', that you consider Turks as 'fully non-Mongoloid'.

Turks used to castrate Black slaves; we have no Negroid in us. That's not like Portuguese or so.
Russian diplomates in Constantinople used to save some of the Black slaves before castration and brought them along to Russia.
They were feeding your women.
See Alexander Pushkin.

[Austrvegr]

That guy looks Varangian. Not even Slav.
The Russian ruling class and even Czar family claimed to be Varangian/Rurik and considered to be Slav as shame and inferiority.
When you simply read Russian novels from 19th century, they describe all Russian Bourgeois families to have a portrait of certain Rurik ruler hanging on the wall, in the living room.
Bolshevik Jewish leaders even posed the Slavic nationalism as anti-Bourgeois for these reasons. That's why Russians, Belarussians are harshly Communist even today.


"Assimilated blond Turks' isn't a senseless assertion.
The steppes of Russia and Ukraine were full of Kypchak people at some point in the history.
They were actually light in terms of feature.

e.g. Baybars. He was a Kypchak guy whose families had been killed, raped by Mongol invaders.
Mongols sold him to Arab merchants as slave.
He, and many others, ended up in Egypt as Mameluk ('white slave').
They got the power there; Baybars even became Sultan. He defeated the Mongols at Ayn Jalut and also destroyed Knight Templars' stronghold in Kerak.

And Baybars was a red haired, blue-eyed guy.

Western Turkics got Slavicized and Christianized some centuries ago. There were also Khazars there; Jews also took their share obviously.

That's not a problem. Wouldn't be a problem.
But in Turkey you have still nomadic Turks (settling as sedentary for the last 100 years). Very endogamic and tribalist people.
Some of them are sometimes blondy, blue-eyed very light when it comes to features etc.. People don't believe they aren't produced out of recent Slavic admixture (like Bosniak).

You gave me a few good laughs, butthurt Kurdo-Armenian.

[Mehmet]

You gave me a few good laughs, butthurt Kurdo-Armenian.
Keep dreaming.

Take a Dutch and mix it with a Chinese.
That results in a 'proud Russian Slav', with ultra prominent cheeks and maybe dirty blondy hair.

You are majority white-skinned mestizo nation.
Latino Castizos look more Caucasian than most of you freaks.

Keep depicting Varangians as 'typical' Russian.

[Austrvegr]

Keep dreaming.

Take a Dutch and mix it with a Chinese.
That results in a 'proud Russian Slav', with ultra prominent cheeks and maybe dirty blondy hair.

You are majority white-skinned mestizo nation.


Yes, that is why in genetic charts we cluster in Northern Europe and you in the Middle East.

:p

[Mehmet]

Nope


http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/East-Asian-admixture.gif


Turks couldn't have been an island if they had mixed out with local people.
Majority of the genes are West Asian for us, yes it's the case in the M-E but also in case of Central Asia.
Turks mostly stayed away from neighboring folks until recent times. And they are thus distinct.

All Russians I encountered were willing to dismiss the Mongol part in Turks, as Russians have too :)
In case of Turks it's normal and even good to prove. But it's not something you cannot explain for 'proud Slavs'.

On Syria tv too you have blond anchorwoman.
You Russians market your country very well.
You are 110 million ethnic Russians; of whom maximum 2 million Nordic Russians and 20-25 million Slavic Russians same as Poles.
The rest is like Maxim Gorkiy, Boris Yeltsin and co.

[sevruk]

hey Kurdo-Armenian go do your usual thing in your immigrant ghetto:
http://i.imgur.com/oRUPh.jpg

:D

[Austrvegr]

Nope
Turks couldn't have been an island if they had mixed out with local people.
Majority of the genes are West Asian for us, yes it's the case in the M-E but also in case of Central Asia.
Turks mostly stayed away from neighboring folks until recent times. And they are thus distinct.

All Russians I encountered were willing to dismiss the Mongol part in Turks, as Russians have too :)
In case of Turks it's normal and even good to prove. But it's not something you cannot explain for 'proud Slavs'.

On Syria tv too you have blond anchorwoman.
You Russians market your country very well.
You are 110 million ethnic Russians; of whom maximum 2 million Nordic Russians and 20-25 million Slavic Russians same as Poles.
The rest is like Maxim Gorkiy, Boris Yeltsin and co.

We speak Balto-Slavic and cluster in genetic charts with Balts and Slavs in Northern Europe. You speak Turkic and cluster with Kurds and Armenians in the Middle East. That is why you feel butthurt 24/7.

[Mehmet]

We speak Balto-Slavic and cluster in genetic charts with Balts and Slavs in Northern Europe. You speak Turkic and cluster with Kurds and Armenians in the Middle East. That is why you feel butthurt 24/7.


We are what we are; and we cluster with Turkmens and not neighboring folks.
http://i45.tinypic.com/112c4go.png
As racially aware people.

We have not changed much over the past 1000 years; unlike you starting as Poles with Viking rulers, ending up like Yeltsin or Arshavin.
Now cherry pick a Nordic Russian, maximum 1-2 million out of 110 million, and try to pose as Scandinavians.
You wish you were Slavs. Nyet you are white skin mestizos for most of you and that's all.
:)

When people want to tease Turks, what they tell is always "Mongol Turks".
But you Russians always avoid this. You even deny the Turanid look in Turks.
There's a reason of course :)

[Austrvegr]

We are what we are; and we cluster with Turkmens and not neighboring folks.
http://i45.tinypic.com/112c4go.png


This pic does not show genetic clustering, but even here one can see that "Turks" are closer to Armenians and Kurds than to Turkmens.

[Austrvegr]

We have not changed much over the past 1000 years;


Yes, you just changed your language and ethnic consciousness. Middle Eastern Kurds and Armenians now imagine they are the offspring of Kul Tegin.



You wish you were Slavs. Nyet you are white skin mestizos for most of you and that's all.
:)


Yes, that is the reason why in genetic charts we cluster with other Slavs in Northern Europe, while you cluster with Kurds and Armenians in the Middle East.

[sevruk]

We are what we are; and we cluster with Turkmens and not neighboring folks.
http://i45.tinypic.com/112c4go.png


Lol dude you just confirmed that you are Kurdo-Armenians

Russian for comparison:
http://s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/20130620/iQ3RCdbd.png
Slavs:
http://s1.ipicture.ru/uploads/20130704/p6JHl0vK.png
Turkic not exist genetically:
http://s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/20130630/nwi3W3xb.png

[Dombra]

inb4 CA Turkics feel the same way about European athletes as we do about black athletes

[sevruk]

inb4 CA Turkics feel the same way about European athletes as we do about black athletes

they are butthurt. Most famous athletes from Kazakhstan - Russians

[Mehmet]

We have 10% Mongoloid genetics, it's a bit lower than Turkmens but there are reasons for this (like the Mongol invasion in Central Asia).
We are overwhelmingly Turanid, East Alpine, Pamirid.
And this despite 1000 years of imperial multi-racial environment.

We have not been like you Russian mongrels breeding with everything met.

Armenians are Armenoid and Kurds are Iranics.
Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, Persians don't have the genes we have; and the common genes we have with them come from Central Asia too, as similar distribution is found there too.

And you Russians are a combination of Slavs and Chinese at some levels. The strange thing is that you have higher rates of Mongol look than we, Oghuz Turks, do.

You can just masturbate on Poles, you aren't anything like them.

you white skin mestizos.

[sevruk]

We have 10% Mongoloid genetics, it's a bit lower than Turkmens but there are reasons for this (like the Mongol invasion in Central Asia).
We are overwhelmingly Turanid, East Alpine, Pamirid.
And this despite 1000 years of imperial multi-racial environment.

We have not been like you Russian mongrels breeding with everything met.

Armenians are Armenoid and Kurds are Iranics.
Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, Persians don't have the genes we have; and the common genes we have with them come from Central Asia too, as similar distribution is found there too.

And you Russians are a combination of Slavs and Chinese at some levels. The strange thing is that you have higher rates of Mongol look than we, Oghuz Turks, do.

You can just masturbate on Poles, you aren't anything like them.

you white skin mestizos.

Your buthurt strong, guy ;)

[Hayalet]

Turks don't claim to be genetically identical to proto-Turks. We descend from both the Seljuk Turks who ventured into Anatolia in the 11th century and the pre-Turkish natives of Anatolia as well as later immigrants from the Balkans, the Caucasus and Crimea. This is what genetic tests show too. So all is well.

Russians, on the other hand, exhibit three main inferiority complexes:

1. Since Slavs are a relatively young people, Russians claim ancient Iranian Scythians as their ancestors while shamelessly calling their true descendents, Ossetians, churkas.
2. Russians laughably claim to be as pure Caucasoids as northwestern Euros when genetic tests reveal they have varying degrees of Siberian admixture. Because of this, they "cast out" their northern brethern and blame their misfortune on the poor Finns.
3. If 19th century physical anthropology got one thing right, it is this: Germanic = Nordid, Slavic = Baltid. Russians will go to great lengths to turn this around.

[Austrvegr]

We have 10% Mongoloid genetics, it's a bit lower than Turkmens but there are reasons for this (like the Mongol invasion in Central Asia).
We are overwhelmingly Turanid, East Alpine, Pamirid.
And this despite 1000 years of imperial multi-racial environment.

We have not been like you Russian mongrels breeding with everything met.

Armenians are Armenoid and Kurds are Iranics.
Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, Persians don't have the genes we have; and the common genes we have with them come from Central Asia too, as similar distribution is found there too.

And you Russians are a combination of Slavs and Chinese at some levels. The strange thing is that you have higher rates of Mongol look than we, Oghuz Turks, do.

You can just masturbate on Poles, you aren't anything like them.

you white skin mestizos.

Yes, and this is the reason why on genetic charts we cluster with other Slavs and Balts in North Europe, while you cluster with Armenians and Kurds in the Middle East, not with the Turkmens.

[Austrvegr]

Turks don't claim to be genetically identical to proto-Turks. We descend from both the Seljuk Turks who ventured into Anatolia in the 11th century and the pre-Turkish natives of Anatolia as well as later immigrants from the Balkans, the Caucasus and Crimea. This is what genetic tests show too. So all is well.

Russians, on the other hand, exhibit three main inferiority complexes:

1. Since Slavs are a relatively young people, Russians claim ancient Iranian Scythians as their ancestors while shamelessly calling their true descendents, Ossetians, churkas.
2. Russians laughably claim to be as pure Caucasoids as northwestern Euros when genetic tests reveal they have varying degrees of Siberian admixture. Because of this, they "cast out" their northern brethern and blame their misfortune on the poor Finns.
3. If 19th century physical anthropology got one thing right, it is this: Germanic = Nordid, Slavic = Baltid. Russians will go to great lengths to turn this around.


Which Germanic? Swedish or Bavarian? Which Slavic? Russian or Macedonian?

Germanic and Slavic are linguistic terms, they are not genetic or anthropological entities.

[Hayalet]

Germanic and Slavic are linguistic terms, they are not genetic or anthropological entities.
:rolleyes:


Yes, he does, because "Turks" are just Turkified Kurdo-Armenians and Turkics do not exist as a genetic entity, while Slavs including Russians do.

[Austrvegr]

Slavs do not exist as a genetic entity compared to Germanics. Slavs do exist as a genetic entity compared to Turkics.


http://s1.ipicture.ru/uploads/20130704/p6JHl0vK.png


http://s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/20130630/nwi3W3xb.png

[Hayalet]

OK, then Germanics = Nordid, East Slavs = Baltid.

[Austrvegr]

OK, then Germanics = Nordid, East Slavs = Baltid.

OK, then according to Germanic anthopologists Germanics are a tiny minority even in the "Germanic" countries.

Guenther was painfully specific. One most not, he warned, confuse Germans with Nordics (Kleine Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes, pp. 9 f). Germany was a compost of at least five European and two extra-European races (Rassenkunde Europas, pp. 88 ff, Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes, pp. 13 ff, 23 f). Germany’s total Nordic heritage was, according to Guenther, at best 45-50 per cent (Rassenkunde Europas, p. 89). Still more disconcerting was the fact that Germany’s population possessed but 5 per cent “pure” Nordic types.

National Socialism and Race by Dr. A. James Gregor
http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/gregor.html

[bimo]

lol at the turks wich want teach to the other who they are and how they look with their funny claims

[Hayalet]

OK, then according to Germanic anthopologists Germanics are a tiny minority even in the "Germanic" countries.

Guenther was painfully specific. One most not, he warned, confuse Germans with Nordics (Kleine Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes, pp. 9 f). Germany was a compost of at least five European and two extra-European races (Rassenkunde Europas, pp. 88 ff, Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes, pp. 13 ff, 23 f). Germany’s total Nordic heritage was, according to Guenther, at best 45-50 per cent (Rassenkunde Europas, p. 89). Still more disconcerting was the fact that Germany’s population possessed but 5 per cent “pure” Nordic types.

National Socialism and Race by Dr. A. James Gregor
http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/gregor.html
If Germans are only 5% Nordid by a certain definition, I suppose Russians can only be 0.5% Nordid by the same definition.

Averaged Germanic (British, Swedish, Austrian) faces:

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A17_zps9e2d85bc.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A109_zpse3782360.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A9_zps178edd03.png
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A18_zpsa204da35.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A110_zps283c6ba8.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A10_zps41cac6a6.png

They look fairly Nordid to me.

Averaged East Slavic (Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian) faces:

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A99_zps8d762c79.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A115_zps871ce72b.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A13_zpsa1ca4524.png
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A100_zps36ed84d3.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A116_zps8070d076.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A14_zpsbbcb54c2.png

If they were more Baltid, they would turn into footballs.

[Not a Cop]

If Germans are only 5% Nordid by a certain definition, I suppose Russians can only be 0.5% Nordid by the same definition.

Averaged Germanic (British, Swedish, Austrian) faces:

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A17_zps9e2d85bc.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A109_zpse3782360.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A9_zps178edd03.png
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A18_zpsa204da35.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A110_zps283c6ba8.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A10_zps41cac6a6.png

They look fairly Nordid to me.

Averaged East Slavic (Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian) faces:

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A99_zps8d762c79.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A115_zps871ce72b.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A13_zpsa1ca4524.png
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A100_zps36ed84d3.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A116_zps8070d076.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A14_zpsbbcb54c2.png

If they were more Baltid, they would turn into footballs.

Average CI of Russians - 81, Average FI - 89, numbers were made by Bunak basing on his anthropological expedition.
Modern average CI of Russians in Moscow - 79.

Please find me a baltid with such mesearuments, and after that remove your kebab outta here.

[UshkuinIK]

Lol. Pan-Germanists - such pan-Germanists. Science and education passed them by.

http://image.openlan.ru/images/81639121334519772237.jpg
http://image.openlan.ru/images/10209714953713933629.jpg

[Austrvegr]

If Germans are only 5% Nordid by a certain definition

This is what the most prominent Nazi anthropologist said. Do you mean you know Germanic anthopology better than him?


I suppose Russians can only be 0.5% Nordid by the same definition

Russians are actually more dolichocephalic than Germans.

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/meon7/Biasutti7.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/22/cephalic-index.jpg

[UshkuinIK]

Russian Faces:

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii163/aiwn08/avv01.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/avv02.jpg
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii163/aiwn08/avv09.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/avv04.jpg
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/avv06.jpg

[Hayalet]

First of all, thank you all for proving my point.


If 19th century physical anthropology got one thing right, it is this: Germanic = Nordid, Slavic = Baltid. Russians will go to great lengths to turn this around.

As for the matter at hand, I can't speak for the cephahlic index of course, but there seems no doubt that East Slavs have lower facial index (thus have proportionally shorter/wider faces) than the Germanics.

A map from Günther:

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/guntherfieur.jpg

[UshkuinIK]

Pfff...Again just for you.

http://image.openlan.ru/images/81639121334519772237.jpghttp://image.openlan.ru/images/10209714953713933629.jpg

[Austrvegr]

First of all, thank you all for proving my point.



As for the matter at hand, I can't speak for the cephahlic index of course, but there seems no doubt that East Slavs have lower facial index (thus have proportionally shorter/wider faces) than the Germanics.

A map from Günther:

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/guntherfieur.jpg


Günther took this map out of his ass. He had no data on the facial index of Russians. The facial index of Russians is 89.7 (data of Bunak's Russian anthropological expedition of the 1950s, now Russians are even narrower-faced).

Russians are narrow-faced mesocephalics, i.e. metrically Nordid.

[Hayalet]

Günther took this map out of his ass. He had no data on the facial index of Russians.
Then he must have made an incredibly lucky guess.


Russians are narrow-faced mesocephalics, i.e. metrically Nordid.
BS.

Compare more Germanics with East Slavs:

(German, Norwegian, White American)

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A47_zpsf1521f8b.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A89_zps22caa3a0.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A119_zps108e2ed7.png
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A48_zps359c7825.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A90_zpseaf45622.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A120_zpsfe477b51.png

This set is more robust, they are more like Nordid-Cromagnoid mixture. Now let's take a look at the East Slavs again.

(Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian)

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A99_zps8d762c79.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A115_zps871ce72b.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A13_zpsa1ca4524.png
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A100_zps36ed84d3.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A116_zps8070d076.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A14_zpsbbcb54c2.png

It's not even close. Get real.

[Peikko]

East nordid.


Günther took this map out of his ass. He had no data on the facial index of Russians. The facial index of Russians is 89.7 (data of Bunak's Russian anthropological expedition of the 1950s, now Russians are even narrower-faced).

Russians are narrow-faced mesocephalics, i.e. metrically Nordid.
Well some Russians are.

[sevruk]

Then he must have made an incredibly lucky guess.


BS.

Compare more Germanics with East Slavs:

(German, Norwegian, White American)

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A47_zpsf1521f8b.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A89_zps22caa3a0.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A119_zps108e2ed7.png
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A48_zps359c7825.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A90_zpseaf45622.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A120_zpsfe477b51.png

This set is more robust, they are more like Nordid-Cromagnoid mixture. Now let's take a look at the East Slavs again.

(Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian)

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A99_zps8d762c79.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A115_zps871ce72b.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A13_zpsa1ca4524.png
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A100_zps36ed84d3.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A116_zps8070d076.pnghttp://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o708/A125678/lym/A14_zpsbbcb54c2.png

It's not even close. Get real.

WTF? This morphing of Russian Olympic team, where 10-20% of Caucasian athletes. Exclude swarthy robust Caucasian athletes and Russian morphing will look more Nordid than Norwegian.

[Swearengen]

Hardly. Brezhnev looks like Tatar or something. He is quite atypical for Ukrainian too.

There is no such thing as a Ukrainian with the last name Brezhnev.

His parents were named Ilya Brezhnev and Natalia Denisovna. Both are Russian names. The region he was born has/had a large Russian population.

[Austrvegr]

East nordid.


Well some Russians are.

Yes, the majority.

[Sarmatian]

There is no such thing as a Ukrainian with the last name Brezhnev.

His parents were named Ilya Brezhnev and Natalia Denisovna. Both are Russian names. The region he was born has/had a large Russian population.

In any case you have to admit Brezhnev doesn't look Russian nor Ukrainian but some sort of minority. As for last name it can be adopted or modified.

[Austrvegr]

It's not even close. Get real.


You have been given the figures of scientific measurements. They are what matters. Pictures of individuals do not matter.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Himmler.jpghttp://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Himmler_hirohito.jpg

[Swearengen]

In any case you have to admit Brezhnev doesn't look Russian nor Ukrainian but some sort of minority. As for last name it can be adopted or modified.

He could be part jewish or something.

However, the others are right about one thing. The nordid presence in Russia is grossly overstated on this forum, especially since examples like this hockey player are hand picked and posted so often. One needs to look no further than Russian hockey players in the NHL.

[Hayalet]

WTF? This morphing of Russian Olympic team, where 10-20% of Caucasian athletes. Exclude swarthy robust Caucasian athletes and Russian morphing will look more Nordid than Norwegian.
And why would swarthy Caucasians (who were excluded, btw) turn a Nordid morphy into Baltid? In any event, the Russian morphs are basically identical to the other two East Slavic morphs who don't have such minorities.

[sevruk]

that morphs even not baltid.
This is an attempt to mix oil and water.
If you mix it
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/sos2012/images/ic/athletes/144x180/c/cc69e63d-a9ec-45e9-b779-1e038fec5d3c.jpg
with it (typical Caucasian)
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/sos2012/images/ic/athletes/144x180/c/cc2a7587-551b-4db0-ba8f-064e333b88a8.jpg
you do not get an adequate result.

And yes Caucasians were not excluded. That morph whole team

[sevruk]

del

[Swearengen]

And yes Caucasians were not excluded. That morph whole team

I doubt it. Just like they likely excluded turks and blacks from the german morph.

[Hayalet]

And yes Caucasians were not excluded. That morph whole team
I created those morphs. Caucasians were excluded including this guy (Bilyal Makhov):

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/sos2012/images/ic/athletes/144x180/c/cc2a7587-551b-4db0-ba8f-064e333b88a8.jpg

[sevruk]

I created those morphs.

I do not trust Turks anyway (you famous liars)

[Hayalet]

I do not trust Turks anyway (you famous liars)
Then do it yourself? It's a simple procedure.

[Austrvegr]

If you want to play with pics.

German look

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/Himmler.jpg

Russian look

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff277/aiwn/22/rus_soldat.jpg

[Hayalet]

If you want to play with pics.
I posted the averaged faces of hundreds of athletes who participated in the same competition, not cherry-picked individuals.

[Dengizik]

I posted the averaged faces of hundreds of athletes who participated in the same competition, not cherry-picked individuals.

You have to find face profiles of 200 million Russians with 80 million Germans and create their morphs to satisfy them.

[Sarmatian]

He could be part jewish or something.

However, the others are right about one thing. The nordid presence in Russia is grossly overstated on this forum, especially since examples like this hockey player are hand picked and posted so often. One needs to look no further than Russian hockey players in the NHL.

Well I don't see anyone claiming that 90% of Russians are pure East Nordids/Corded. Obvioulsy various Nordo-CM mixes will have much higher occurence than pure Nordids. Still out of all European countries Russia most likely have largest number of pure Nordoid forms even if they make up some small percent of Russian population.

[kvarc]

he looks very east nordid........ lot`s of Turks around here are a joke

[Swearengen]

Well I don't see anyone claiming that 90% of Russians are pure East Nordids/Corded. Obvioulsy various Nordo-CM mixes will have much higher occurence than pure Nordids. Still out of all European countries Russia most likely have largest number of pure Nordoid forms even if they make up some small percent of Russian population.

Someone just said most are 2 pages ago.

[Smeagol]

East Nordids are A very important part of the Russian population. The majority of Russians are probably Nordo-Cromagnids, or Nordo-Baltids.

[Austrvegr]

You have to find face profiles of 200 million Russians with 80 million Germans and create their morphs to satisfy them.

We do not need Turks to satisfy us with their pics, we are quite satisfied with hard scientific anthropological data.

[Swearengen]

East Nordids are A very important part of the Russian population. The majority of Russians are probably Nordo-Cromagnids, or Nordo-Baltids.

Maybe the majority of those posted on this forum. But sevruk never makes threads called "Classify Ilya Kovalchuk."

This is more realistic. Nordid presence exists, but percentage-wise it is weak compared to germany and northern europe. It shouldn't even be a debate.

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article833747.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/russia%20football%20team%20topic-833747.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01535/germany-team-2008-_1535538i.jpg

[Smeagol]

Maybe the majority of those posted on this forum. But sevruk never makes threads called "Classify Ilya Kovalchuk."

This is more realistic. Nordid presence exists, but percentage-wise it is weak compared to germany and northern europe. It shouldn't even be a debate.

North, and Central Russia are definitely more Nordid than Germany. (Pure Nordids are rare in Germany, Northwest Germans are mostly Nordid + Borreby, or Nordid + Faelid, Northeast Germans more Nordo-Baltid, Baltid, or West Baltid, and south Germans more Norid, Dinarid, Sub-Nordid, and Alpinid.) In south Russia, like in Ukraine, North Pontids are more important.

[Swearengen]

North, and Central Russia are definitely more Nordid than Germany. (Pure Nordids are rare in Germany, Northwest Germans are mostly Nordid + Borreby, or Nordid + Faelid, Northeast Germans more Nordo-Baltid, Baltid, or West Baltid, and south Germans more Norid, Dinarid, Sub-Nordid, and Alpinid.) In south Russia, like in Ukraine, North Pontids are more important.

I just posted their football teams. I doubt there is more than 1 or 2 south Russians on their roster. To say most Russians are an even mix of nordid and baltid or CM is just inaccurate.

[Smeagol]

I just posted their football teams. I doubt there is more than 1 or 2 south Russians on their roster. To say Russians are an even mix of nordid and baltid or CM is just inaccurate.

True. From those pictures, I can see Nordid, North Pontid, Cromagnid, Baltid, and Gorid influences.

[sevruk]

But sevruk never makes threads called "Classify Ilya Kovalchuk."
[/img]

Kovalchuk obvious Turanid Ukrainian

[Swearengen]

Kovalchuk obvious Turanid Ukrainian

Obvious turanid yes, but he's Russian.

[sevruk]

Obvious turanid yes, but he's Russian.

you should know that his surname Ukrainian and he looks like one of you

http://cs311331.vk.me/v311331246/73a4/w37Dq67ycMU.jpg

[Swearengen]

you should know that his surname Ukrainian and he looks like one of you

http://cs311331.vk.me/v311331246/73a4/w37Dq67ycMU.jpg

It is not. It is a general slavic surname.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kovalchuk

Kovalchuk (Russian, Ukrainian: Ковальчу́к), Kavalchuk (Belarusian: Кавальчу́к), also transliterated as a German adaptation Kowalchuk (in the North American diaspora), is a common Slavic surname. The Kovalchuk name extends back to before 1500 AD in the Kievan Rus Empire.

People[edit]

Anna Kovalchuk (born 1977), Russian actress
Chris Kowalczuk, Canadian footballer
Serghei Covalciuc (born 1982), Moldovan-Russian footballer
Syarhey Kavalchuk (born 1978), Belarusian footballer
Ilya Kovalchuk (born 1983), Russian professional ice hockey player
Kyrylo Kovalchuk (born 1986), Ukrainian footballer
Mikhail Kovalchuk (born 1946), Scientific Secretary of the Council for Science and High Technologies attached to the President of the Russian Federation
Victoria Kovalchuk (born 1954), Galician artist
Peter Kowalchuk, Pastor and founder of the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church of Caracas (Venezuela)
Yury Kovalchuk (born 1951), Russian businessman, head of the Board of Directors of the Russia bank

He looks just like other Russian hockey players.

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nhl/players/full/2005.png&w=350&h=254

http://www.khl.sk/logos/players/khl/pavel-kanarsky.jpg

http://www.sports.ru/images/object_74.1342462398.70302.jpg

http://bookmakersrating.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/102365_b_aleksandr-kozhevnikov_1320869240.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/894/849/alex-ovechkin_display_image.jpeg?1357850743

[sevruk]

It is not. It is a general slavic surname.


This is not a Russian surname. Russian surnames end in -ov,-ev, -in
Kovalchuk typical Ukrainian surname like Savchuk.
Terry Savchuk most famous Canadian Ukrainian. Very turanid

http://desporter.com.ua/i/history/uki-hockey/butsyk.jpg

[Austrvegr]

Nordid presence exists, but percentage-wise it is weak compared to germany

Prove it with German cephalic and facial indices figures.

[Swearengen]

This is not a Russian surname. Russian surnames end in -ov,-ev, -in
Kovalchuk typical Ukrainian surname like Savchuk.
Terry Savchuk most famous Canadian Ukrainian. Very turanid

http://desporter.com.ua/i/history/uki-hockey/butsyk.jpg

He is a Russian from Moscow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kovalchuk

Kovalchuk (Russian, Ukrainian: Ковальчу́к), Kavalchuk (Belarusian: Кавальчу́к), also transliterated as a German adaptation Kowalchuk (in the North American diaspora), is a common Slavic surname. The Kovalchuk name extends back to before 1500 AD in the Kievan Rus Empire.

People[edit]

Anna Kovalchuk (born 1977), Russian actress
Chris Kowalczuk, Canadian footballer
Serghei Covalciuc (born 1982), Moldovan-Russian footballer
Syarhey Kavalchuk (born 1978), Belarusian footballer
Ilya Kovalchuk (born 1983), Russian professional ice hockey player
Kyrylo Kovalchuk (born 1986), Ukrainian footballer
Mikhail Kovalchuk (born 1946), Scientific Secretary of the Council for Science and High Technologies attached to the President of the Russian Federation
Victoria Kovalchuk (born 1954), Galician artist
Peter Kowalchuk, Pastor and founder of the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church of Caracas (Venezuela)
Yury Kovalchuk (born 1951), Russian businessman, head of the Board of Directors of the Russia bank

But no one is as turanid as this Russian football player ;) Not even Kovalchuk.

http://www.saturn-fc.ru/files/players/7331.jpg

And no one is as uralid as this guy

http://images.si.com/images/hockey/nhl/players/1199.jpg

[sevruk]

http://www.ak-bars.ru/photo/players/466.jpg
^If this guy turanid then Ukrainians purest Central Asians
http://k.img.com.ua/img/forall/ui/659330/56/1363607218.jpg

[Not a Cop]

It is not. It is a general slavic surname.



It can be found at the area of Russian\Ukrainian\Belarussian border, it can be russian, but much more more common in Ukraine\Belarus. It's generally associated with western russian dialects, in Russia Kuznetsov is much more common (in fact it is probably the most common)

[sevruk]

He is a Russian from Moscow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kovalchuk

Kovalchuk (Russian, Ukrainian: Ковальчу́к), Kavalchuk (Belarusian: Кавальчу́к), also transliterated as a German adaptation Kowalchuk (in the North American diaspora), is a common Slavic surname. The Kovalchuk name extends back to before 1500 AD in the Kievan Rus Empire.

People[edit]

Anna Kovalchuk (born 1977), Russian actress
Chris Kowalczuk, Canadian footballer
Serghei Covalciuc (born 1982), Moldovan-Russian footballer
Syarhey Kavalchuk (born 1978), Belarusian footballer
Ilya Kovalchuk (born 1983), Russian professional ice hockey player
Kyrylo Kovalchuk (born 1986), Ukrainian footballer
Mikhail Kovalchuk (born 1946), Scientific Secretary of the Council for Science and High Technologies attached to the President of the Russian Federation
Victoria Kovalchuk (born 1954), Galician artist
Peter Kowalchuk, Pastor and founder of the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church of Caracas (Venezuela)
Yury Kovalchuk (born 1951), Russian businessman, head of the Board of Directors of the Russia bank



They Ukrainian origin. Ukrainians have settled in Russia and brought turanid phenotype. We have to stop turanid-Ukrainian invasion to Russia

[Swearengen]

[IM]http://www.ak-bars.ru/photo/players/466.jpg[/IMG]
^If this guy turanid then Ukrainians purest Central Asians
[IG]http://k.img.com.ua/img/forall/ui/659330/56/1363607218.jpg[/IMG]

That guy has an epicanthic fold. I already posted the purest example. It is very easy to find such features in Russians.

[Swearengen]

It can be found at the area of Russian\Ukrainian\Belarussian border, it can be russian, but much more more common in Ukraine\Belarus. It's generally associated with western russian dialects, in Russia Kuznetsov is much more common (in fact it is probably the most common)

Ok, so it can be any of the 3. And he's from Moscow.

[Swearengen]

They Ukrainian origin. Ukrainians have settled in Russia and brought turanid phenotype. We have to stop turanid-Ukrainian invasion to Russia

You brought it to Ukraine. This is why Kharkiv and Luhansk have more east asian admixture than the rest of Ukraine.

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/East-Asian-admixture.gif

[sevruk]

That guy has an epicanthic fold.
http://www.dynamo-history.ru/images/persons/igroki/04_g/glazachev/glazachev_main.jpg

he does not, compare with this Ukrainian

http://cs412527.vk.me/v412527246/50e1/z0mNzknprbU.jpg
http://cs412527.vk.me/v412527246/50da/w7AAFxhvACE.jpg

[sevruk]

del

[Swearengen]

http://www.dynamo-history.ru/images/persons/igroki/04_g/glazachev/glazachev_main.jpg

he does not, compare with with Ukrainian
]

I am posting famous people. It is easy to cherry pick ethnic minorities off the street.

The last guy you posted - Andriy Rusol, does not even have a slavic last name

He is clearly mongoloid influenced

http://www.ak-bars.ru/photo/gallery/player/glazachev/01.jpg

So is this Russian footballer

http://www.torpedo.ru/club/officials/dasaev.jpg

[sevruk]

I am posting famous people. It is easy to cherry pick ethnic minorities off the street.

He is Ukrainian nationalist and purest Ukranian, lol

[Swearengen]

He is Ukrainian nationalist and purest Ukranian, lol

He is clearly Russian influenced. Probably from Karkhiv or Luhansk.

Look at how Russian this guy is. Look how many medals he won you.

http://img.stapravda.ru/i/b/p18409.jpg

[sevruk]

So is this Russian footballer

http://www.torpedo.ru/club/officials/dasaev.jpg

Well, it's funny how Tatar looks more Caucasoid than many Ukrainians

[Swearengen]

Well, it's funny how Tatar looks more Caucasoid than many Ukrainians

This Russian chess player is very caucasoid. He even has blue eyes xD

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/AlexanderRustemov11.jpg/705px-AlexanderRustemov11.jpg

[sevruk]

He even has blue eyes xD


We have more light eyes and blond hair and we less Central Asia look than Ukranians, certainly

[Swearengen]

We have more light eyes and blond hair and we less Central Asia look than Ukranians, certainly

You have more central asian genetics and obviously more central asian apearance.

aren't you south russian? south russia isn't exactly the lightest place on earth.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Light_Eyes_in_Europe.png

[sevruk]

aren't you south russian? south russia isn't exactly the lightest place on earth.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Light_Eyes_in_Europe.png

The darkest Russian is much lighter than most light Ukrainians.
Seriously, why are you so dark, brahicephalic and wide-faced? Turanid rape?

[Swearengen]

The darkest Russian is much lighter than most light Ukrainians.
Seriously, why are you so dark, brahicephalic and wide-faced? Turanid rape?

I looked up south russians. They are extremely swarthy compared to most Ukrainians. No wonder why considering you border caucasus and kazakhstan. Typical south "Russians."

http://www.en.cupp.ru/db/images/02032012_3.jpg

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ekaterina+Tudegesheva+Women+Snowboard+Parallel+pm9 9ytbJOAnl.jpg

http://www.olympic-champions.ru/champions/elena_produnova/elena_produnova_poster.jpg

http://img.stapravda.ru/i/b/p18409.jpg

http://www.torpedo.ru/club/officials/dasaev.jpg

[UshkuinIK]

Your anthropological data - not quite true. I'm surprised that Western anthropologists draw on maps straight lines, without going into details.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6775/14513081.jpg

[UshkuinIK]

Voronezh Oblast (South Russia):

http://www.voronezh-city.ru/upload/iblock/5ae/Tema_nedeli_111113.jpghttp://media.rfs.ru/res/galleries/87/82/2506/image.orig.34988.jpg
http://bloknot-voronezh.ru/public/files/images/2012/08/08/548_proportional_699e730226dd8871f8e48768a18a5e3a. jpghttp://www.voronezh-city.ru/upload/iblock/894/d_dg2013_03.jpg
http://media.rfs.ru/res/galleries/87/82/2506/image.orig.34993.jpg

[Swearengen]

Voronezh Oblast (South Russia):

Mostly just children and old guys with grey hair. I'm not saying they are complete swarths, but south russia is darker than most of ukraine. That's just a fact.

[sevruk]

I looked up south russians. They are extremely swarthy compared to most Ukrainians. No wonder why considering you border caucasus and kazakhstan. Typical south "Russians."
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nigga please

http://5.firepic.org/5/images/2013-03/18/z4uyjm0dpzyf.jpg
http://k.img.com.ua/img/forall/ui/659330/56/1363603442.jpg
http://k.img.com.ua/img/forall/ui/659330/56/1363606947.jpg
http://s43.radikal.ru/i100/0908/16/4ac58c61bf92.jpg
http://i006.radikal.ru/0801/fe/ed52a8da230f.jpg
http://s54.radikal.ru/i144/0807/a3/ecddc4d8ca52.jpg
You are Turko-Romanians not East Slavic

[Swearengen]

nigga please
You are Turko-Romanians not East Slavic

r1a distribution says otherwise

http://bialczynski.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/aa-haplogroup-r1a.gif?w=720&h=521

South russia is 20% r1a.

All you can post is random people who are obvious ethnic minorities. I am posting famous Russian athletes.

[UshkuinIK]

Tambov Oblast (South Russia):

http://cs316716.vk.me/v316716038/1a94/ZNhb9pmOSV0.jpghttp://cs316716.vk.me/v316716038/1e96/Y5yvL9jarho.jpg
http://ss.sport-express.ru/userfiles/press/3/32145/46393_origin.jpghttp://rtsport.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/brybq_uxczi.jpg
http://www.rtsport.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/fcinhe_amkg.jpg

The southern Russians lighter northern Ukrainians. :thumb001:

[UshkuinIK]

http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p554/aiwn12/balanovskij-2012-12.jpg

53,8 % R1A - South Russians

[sevruk]

All you can post is random people who are obvious ethnic minorities. I am posting famous Russian athletes.

I am posting ethnic Ukrainians (nationalists and people in national costumes) who say that they are 100% Ukrainians. You post mixed people from Russia.
Submit images turanid Russian in national costumes, please

[Swearengen]

Tambov Oblast (South Russia):

Compare with Northern Ukrainians :thumb001:

I don't need to. Even people from lviv are lighter

http://www.arenalviv.com.ua/uploads/images/pages/295/750/u_21.jpg

[Swearengen]

I am posting ethnic Ukrainians (nationalists and people in national costumes) who say that they are 100% Ukrainians. You post mixed people from Russia.
Submit images turanid Russian in national costumes, please

You are posting people who don't even have Ukrainian names. Like Andriy Rusol. I am posting all Russian bred, Russian named, Russians so Russian that they win 10 medals for Russia

[Swearengen]

Another famous south Russian

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/12th+IAAF+World+Athletics+Championships+Day+SSY_Fs xEckGm.jpg

[UshkuinIK]

"South russia is 20% or less r1a." - Your words? You will be responsible for them? :picard2:

[Swearengen]

"South russia is 20% or less r1a." - Your words? You will be responsible for them? :picard2:

That's what the figure showed. Maybe it is a bit higher, but it's definitely low.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/R1a1a_distribution.png

Also this one which deviates a bit.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/R1a-map.JPG

[sevruk]

You are posting people who don't even have Ukrainian names.

There are 100% Ukranians. Andriy Rusol 100% textbook Turanid Ukranian

[UshkuinIK]

That's what the figure showed. Maybe it is a bit higher, but it's definitely low.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/R1a1a_distribution.png

Also this one which deviates a bit.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/R1a-map.JPG

http://image.openlan.ru/images/51014473515762406221.gif

[Swearengen]

There are 100% Ukranians. Andriy Rusol 100% textbook Turanid Ukranian

More evidence that Russians are not east slavs. They cluster between Ukrainians/Belarusians (east slavs) and Chuvash.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ztxlQ68e19Q/TnC0Z0rW6bI/AAAAAAAAEHc/MQny_v-ygqQ/s1600/pca-caucasus.png

[Swearengen]

The product

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Galina_Kakovkina.jpg

http://cluster.leaguestat.com/download.php?client_code=ahl&file_path=img/players/2531.jpg

http://wpmedia.blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/12/rsz_yakupov5.jpg

[Visitor_22]

http://www.torpedo.ru/club/officials/dasaev.jpg

Dude is tatar Rinat Dasaev.

[UshkuinIK]

Swearengen, You admit that you are an ignoramus? Or are you just a troll? I have given you the data on haplogroups.

[Swearengen]

Swearengen, You admit that you are an ignoramus? Or are you just a troll? I have given you the data on haplogroups.

You have given me evidence that conflicts with mine. Given the darkness of southern russia, I'm inclined to believe my own data.

[sevruk]

More evidence that Russians are not east slavs. They cluster between Ukrainians/Belarusians (east slavs) and Chuvash.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ztxlQ68e19Q/TnC0Z0rW6bI/AAAAAAAAEHc/MQny_v-ygqQ/s1600/pca-caucasus.png

Or Ukrainians, between Russia/Belorusian (east slav) and Romanian.

You lied about haplogroup R1a among southern Russian, it higher than among average Ukrainian.

[UshkuinIK]

Lol. Trolling

[Swearengen]

Or Ukrainians, between Russia/Belorusian (east slav) and Romanian.

You lied about haplogroup R1a among southern Russian, it higher than among average Ukrainian.

Ukrainian cluster overlaps with Belarus. Belarus has a slight affinity toward Lithuania. Russian cluster is very far away.

I did not lie. I posted evidence. You are the one lying saying every region of ukraine is darker than southern russia.

http://newphoenix.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Light_Eyes_Map.png

[sevruk]

The product

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Galina_Kakovkina.jpg

http://cluster.leaguestat.com/download.php?client_code=ahl&file_path=img/players/2531.jpg

http://wpmedia.blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/12/rsz_yakupov5.jpg

theme about Tatars elsewhere. You have buthurt

[Swearengen]

theme about Tatars elsewhere. You have buthurt

What do you think is the result when you mix a slav with a chuvash? Russia has 7-8% mongoloid DNA on average. And yet you constantly go on about mongoloid features in ukraine when it's only 1-2%.

The fact is that it's very easy to find mongoloid Russians. 7-8% is going to show sometimes.

[sevruk]

I did not lie.

You said that southern Russian have 20% R1a, while they have 50-60%.
Turanids tend to lie xD

[Swearengen]

You said that southern Russian have 20% R1a, while they have 50-60%.
Turanids tend to lie xD

While actually it is 20%. Or rather 20-30%.

http://bialczynski.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/aa-haplogroup-r1a.gif?w=720&h=521

[sevruk]

What do you think is the result when you mix a slav with a chuvash? Russia has 7-8% mongoloid DNA on average. And yet you constantly go on about mongoloid features in ukraine when it's only 1-2%.

The fact is that it's very easy to find mongoloid Russians. 7-8% is going to show sometimes.

Just recognize that you can not find turanid ethnic Russian. While obviously every day you see turanid Ukrainians ;)

[UshkuinIK]

Swearengen...
http://psygo.ru/pics/putin-facepalm.png

[Swearengen]

Just recognize that you can not find turanid ethnic Russian. While obviously every day you see turanid Ukrainians ;)

Ethnic Russian by definition is part turanid/chuvash/whatever. Where do you think that east asian DNA came from.

[Swearengen]

Swearengen...
http://psygo.ru/pics/putin-facepalm.png

Yes, Putin is another good example of uralid admixed Russian. Thanks :)

[sevruk]

While actually it is 20%. Or rather 20-30%.

http://bialczynski.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/aa-haplogroup-r1a.gif?w=720&h=521

This picture shows other ethnic groups, not only Russian. You stupid turanid

[UshkuinIK]

His ancestors - Tver Karelians and Udmurts.

[Visitor_22]

Buddy you're just pathetic at this point.

I looked up south russians. They are extremely swarthy compared to most Ukrainians. No wonder why considering you border caucasus and kazakhstan. Typical south "Russians."

http://www.en.cupp.ru/db/images/02032012_3.jpg

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ekaterina+Tudegesheva+Women+Snowboard+Parallel+pm9 9ytbJOAnl.jpg

http://img.stapravda.ru/i/b/p18409.jpg

http://www.torpedo.ru/club/officials/dasaev.jpg


Sorry. I don't get that.

At first those people are caucasians or tatars. They are atypical for russians. Vadim Krasnoslobodtsev is typical Kazakhstanian russian.


At second, no one of those people look like kazakh. Cause kazakhs are light mongoloids and don't look caucasian at all.


Kazakh kids

http://cs317916.vk.me/v317916609/aadf/ohZyx6LEg7Y.jpg

http://cs317916.vk.me/v317916609/aaa0/pXCVIFMIVwo.jpg

http://cs317916.vk.me/v317916609/ab54/1ZBKydcqulY.jpg

http://cs317916.vk.me/v317916609/ab27/ZDQ09rGqjGc.jpg

http://cs317916.vk.me/v317916609/ab03/ipckwxYAFlE.jpg

http://cs409823.vk.me/v409823609/c7a/oeyek82F0Kk.jpg

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg503/askar9992/Kazakh%20children/photo_7189_zps7bc8675e.jpg

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg503/askar9992/Kazakh%20children/Mmlh5IjPQg8_zps7b0225fc.jpg

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg503/askar9992/Kazakh%20children/sKDf15GGG4k_zpsf2b25f0a.jpg

http://cs305801.vk.me/v305801609/4820/VUh3GbVBkfo.jpg

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg503/askar9992/1870d7f889cfce3f531acc25486b7ec6_big_zps80c2a918.j pg

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg503/askar9992/Kazakh%20children/5e0a5ec6_zpse0fc84d0.jpg

http://cs9634.vk.me/u16120800/122209053/x_05bc0023.jpg

[Swearengen]

This picture shows other ethnic groups, not only Russian. You stupid turanid

So what, south Russia is over half ethnic minorities?

[Visitor_22]

Вадим Краснослободцев - Vadim Krasnoslobodtsev - typical Kazakhstanian russian

http://im6.asset.yvimg.kz/userimages/ragazzo/zqaExJha1nuJgCbcfsq1Gf1VIOQKrA.jpg

http://younghockey.ru/wp-content/uploads/%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%9A%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D 0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%86%D0%B5%D0%B2.jpg

[sevruk]

So what, south Russia is over half ethnic minorities?

These maps show the indigenous population.
But here's another map.

http://rugiland.narod.ru/olderfiles/7/Raspredelenie_gaplogruppy_R1A_v_Evrope.jpg
Central and South Russian have more R1a than Ukranians
You are obvious liar or stupid troll

[Visitor_22]

Николай Антропов - Nik Antropov - typical Kazakhstanian russian


http://yvision.kz/images/post/special/photo/17/1711e9db7193d8d130f6ad572a5a1d05-preview.jpg

http://yvision.kz/images/post/special/photo/ac/ac8d145a3d6de9c697f9b0e19bcf32f7-preview.jpg

http://vesti.kz/userdata/34be7baa8d6ffa3a6cdc4a28721da91a.JPG

http://www.sovsport.ru/s/preview/cf43_512/553139.jpg?t=1348208488

http://img.championat.com/news/big/v/z/nikolaj-antropov_13842485921938157186.jpg

http://img.championat.com/i/article/30/36/1348183036_b_nikolaj-antropov.jpg

http://im1.asset.yvimg.kz/userimages/ragazzo/zrdRxKz0wDmmc7fOgU8CTTW50mdND6.jpg

http://im8.asset.yvimg.kz/userimages/ragazzo/N1LE9Q6Wlh912rtjB8XT34cHzB5g4O.jpg

http://img.championat.com/news/big/g/g/antropov-barysu-ja-okazalsja-nuzhen-bolshe-vsekh_13481830591820883130200.jpg

[Swearengen]

These maps show the indigenous population.
But here's another map.

http://rugiland.narod.ru/olderfiles/7/Raspredelenie_gaplogruppy_R1A_v_Evrope.jpg
Central and South Russian have more R1a than Ukranians
You are obvious liar or stupid troll

Eurogenes data is for local populations. You are just making stuff up like you did with the Turkish guy - saying that caucasians were included in the Russian facial morph.

That map is based on the data the other guy already posted. I posted 3 different figures that refuted it.

[UshkuinIK]

I have given you the data from geneticists Balanovsky. Can you refute them?

http://image.openlan.ru/images/51014473515762406221.gif

[sevruk]

Eurogenes data is for local populations. You are just making stuff up like you did with the Turkish guy - saying that caucasians were included in the Russian facial morph.

That map is based on the data the other guy already posted. I posted 3 different figures that refuted it.

you're just ignorant

[Swearengen]

you're just ignorant

Oh come on sevruk. Look in the mirror. You are so ignorant and spiteful toward ukrainians and try to build russians into some sort of nordid master race. The reality is just far different.

[sevruk]

Oh come on sevruk. Look in the mirror. You are so ignorant and spiteful toward ukrainians and try to build russians into some sort of nordid master race. The reality is just far different.

what? you are a liar

[gregorius]

Lighter=better

[Twistedmind]

Ethnic Russian by definition is part turanid/chuvash/whatever.

?



Where do you think that east asian DNA came from.

Its same with rest of Europe, especialy with Ukraine. I understand you are got annyoed for Russian picking on you, but lol Russians are not Asians.

[Trun]

Oh come on sevruk. Look in the mirror. You are so ignorant and spiteful toward ukrainians and try to build russians into some sort of nordid master race. The reality is just far different.

He lives in his own world where Russians are some sort of Nordic gods (similar to Karl's world for Estonia :laugh: )

While in reality Russians and Turks are the biggest mutts in the world, they assimilated everything possible.

[sevruk]

He lives in his own world where Russians are some sort of Nordic gods (similar to Karl's world for Estonia :laugh: )

While in reality Russians and Turks are the biggest mutts in the world, they assimilated everything possible.
says Turko-Gypsy mongrel
Look at yourself in the mirror, ugly

[UshkuinIK]

Churki must die. You're not Russian? Get in the face! Russians - it's people, and the rest - not quite. :icon_smile:

[Peikko]

WTF? This morphing of Russian Olympic team, where 10-20% of Caucasian athletes. Exclude swarthy robust Caucasian athletes and Russian morphing will look more Nordid than Norwegian.

Yes, the majority.
Yeah, Russians are predominantly nordid, even more so than Norwegians. :rolleyes: Now post pictures of everyone you know, please.


I created those morphs. Caucasians were excluded including this guy (Bilyal Makhov):

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/sos2012/images/ic/athletes/144x180/c/cc2a7587-551b-4db0-ba8f-064e333b88a8.jpg
You should post all the pictures you used for the morph, otherwise nobody will believe you.

[bimo]

successful topic is successful

my taxonomy topics don't have 20 pages , fuck fuck fuck !!!

[FrostDragon]

East Nordid.