Ghosts in Tengriism

[Yalquzaq]

Qara Xan: He sits at the highest layer of sky, in a golden castle and seat.
Ayqız: Master of love and Moon. Sits at the third layer of sky.
Gün Ana: Master of Sun. Sits at the highest layer of sky together with the Sun.
Ay Ata: Master of Moon. Sits below Sky together with Moon.
Alasbatır: Protector of animals.
Ancasın: Master of lightning.
Su Yiyəsi: A fairy who lives in water. Has the ability to turn herself into bird or snake.
Daş Qaşıt: Responsible for fate of human beings.
Satılay: Master of evil.
Qar Xan: Master of snow and winter.
Arah, Toyar, Tarıla, Sabıray: They live at the seventh layer of earth and decides on souls of human beings.
Gölpün Ata: Protector of sheeps.
Ərdənay: Messenger. He brings Tengri's words to humans.
Od Ana: Protector of woods.
Usan Xan: Master of water.
Say Xan: Master of science.
Tatay Xan: Master of storms and winds.
Çor/Çotqor: Evil ghosts whom seeks to do harm to human beings.
Ozur, Ongun: Generally good ghosts but can also create problems sometimes.
Körmüz: Ghosts of death Shamans. Always besides alive Shamans to help them out. There are both good and bad ones. They help newly dead people's ghosts and show the way they are supposed to go.
Bur Xan: They are very strong and for that reason Shamans cannot influence them. If they make a person sick, a Shaman can only request/ask them to cure the sick. Only Shamans with strong asistance can influence Bur Xan's. After this process, the controlled Bur Xan turns into a Ongun.
Altay Xan: Master of Altay mountains. Sits on top of Altay mountain and is strong.
Talay Xan: Master of oceans.
Dəmir Xan: Keeps the power if iron at his hands.
Buncaq Toyun and Buzul Toyun: They guard the road to Qara Xan's castle at highest layer of the sky
Umay Ana: She protects the childs of animals and humans.
Bay Ülgən: He likes to help people out and controls the things that happen at sky.
Ağ Ana: She lives at "milk lake" located at "Uçmağ" (heaven). Master of the same lake.
Erlik/Yerlik Xan: Master of underground. He's cursed because he acted against Tengri.

[Hurrem sultana]

lol

[Annihilus]

Erlik

http://www.estanbul.com/images/imported/2010/06/erlik9zy-1.jpg

The real cross

http://krupadetarnawa.weebly.com/uploads/6/5/5/3/6553958/2543159.jpg?554

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

What about Alkarısı ,mythical fairy or succubus like woman live in forest or wilderness and rides horses naked ,possess people esp pregnant or women who recently gave birth ?

Lots of Alkarısı stories are still being told (some of them ,they claim their own experience ,they saw her etc..)

Esp one of them is interesting ,a man who enslaved an alkarısı long years ..

I suspect that can be demonised version of Umay Ana after islam

[Annihilus]

What about Alkarısı ,mythical fairy or succubus like woman live in forest or wilderness and rides horses naked ,possess people esp pregnant or women who recently gave birth ?

Lots of Alkarısı stories are still being told (some of them ,they claim their own experience ,they saw her etc..)

Esp one of them is interesting ,a man who enslaved an alkarısı long years ..

I suspect that can be demonised version of Umay Ana after islam

I think Albasti is separate entity from Umay. Albasti being a (evil) spirit and Umay a goddess (of fertility).

[Food]

Funny.

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

I know Umay is protector of female and children (human or animal),but we all know what happens to Pagan Gods or Goddess after a abrahamic religion becomes dominant.It's our Umay ana but demonised


Btw let me introduce my desktop security:Erlik Khan ;)

http://imageshack.us/a/img197/4241/12884966.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/12884966.png/)

[Annihilus]

Lol @ your desktop security:thumb001:

I says here http://merakedilenler.wordpress.com/tag/al-basti-ve-al-karisi-nedir/ that albasti is a blonde peri (nymph) and various rituals were practised by Turks to protect them from her.

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

Lol @ your desktop security:thumb001:

It says here http://merakedilenler.wordpress.com/tag/al-basti-ve-al-karisi-nedir/ that albasti is a blonde peri (nymph) and various rituals were practised by Turks to protect them from her.


yes ,damn Virus and trojans has to deal with Erlik Khan

Look at him ,He is like "None shall pass!!" :grumpy:


I hope we make manga or anime of these Turkic Deities and fantastic creatures one day .They are great and i m kinda fed up with werevolves ,vampires ,zombies after watching 1000 versions of them..We need new fantastic elements.


BUT WE HAVE A COMPUTER GAME

Global game ErlikHan--http://www.level.com.tr/index.php/forum?func=view&catid=36&id=36628

Later edit:Ofcourse that was my speculation.
(thank you for link -I changed my idea ,they are not same entities

[Onur]

What about Alkarısı ,mythical fairy or succubus like woman live in forest or wilderness and rides horses naked ,possess people esp pregnant or women who recently gave birth ?

I suspect that can be demonised version of Umay Ana after islam
Yes, i agree to that theory. All abrahamic religions have an unwritten rule for demonizing the concepts of the old belief system.

If "Al Karısı" is a demonized form of "Umay" in islam, then i think you will be surprised for what happened to old Tengrist characters in christianity;


Etymology

The Oxford English Dictionary dates the first appearance of the word vampire in English from 1734, in a travelogue titled Travels of Three English Gentlemen published in the Harleian Miscellany in 1745.[14][15] Vampires had already been discussed in French[16] and German literature.[17] After Austria gained control of northern Serbia and Oltenia with the Treaty of Passarowitz in 1718, officials noted the local practice of exhuming bodies and "killing vampires".[17] These reports, prepared between 1725 and 1732, received widespread publicity.[17]

The English term was derived (possibly via French vampyre) from the German Vampir, in turn derived in the early 18th century from the Serbian вампир/vampir,[18][19][20][21][22] when Arnold Paole, a purported vampire in Serbia was described during the time Serbia was incorporated into the Austrian Empire.

The Serbian form has parallels in virtually all Slavic languages: Bulgarian and Macedonian вампир (vampir), Croatian vampir, Czech and Slovak upír, Polish wąpierz, and (perhaps East Slavic-influenced) upiór, Ukrainian упир (upyr), Russian упырь (upyr'), Belarusian упыр (upyr), from Old East Slavic упирь (upir'). (Note that many of these languages have also borrowed forms such as "vampir/wampir" subsequently from the West; these are distinct from the original local words for the creature.) The exact etymology is unclear.[23] Among the proposed proto-Slavic forms are *ǫpyrь and *ǫpirь.[24] Another, less widespread theory, is that the Slavic languages have borrowed the word from a Turkic term for "witch" (e.g., Tatar ubyr).[24][25]

Czech linguist Václav Machek proposes Slovak verb "vrepiť sa" (stick to, thrust into), or its hypothetical anagram "vperiť sa" (in Czech, archaic verb "vpeřit" means "to thrust violently") as an etymological background, and thus translates "upír" as "someone who thrusts, bites". [26]

An early use of the Old Russian word is in the anti-pagan treatise "Word of Saint Grigoriy", dated variously to the 11th–13th centuries, where pagan worship of upyri is reported.[27][28]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire

Tracing the source of upir and its Slavic cognates (i.e., upior, obyrbi, upirbi, obiri) is even more controversial. Among the proposed proto-Slavic forms are *ǫpyrь and *ǫpirь. Franz Miklosich, a late 19th century linguist, suggested that upir is derived from uber, a Turkish word for witch (cf. Kazan Tatar ubyr "witch").

Read More: http://vampires.monstrous.com/Etymology_of_vampire.htm#ixzz29AVjUQAN


It might say "less widespread theory" in wikipedia but in fact, the concept of vampires has origins in Turkic tengrism/shamanism with the evil character named as "Umpir, upyr". The concept of vampires has been spread from Balkans and most likely the old Tengrist Bulgars brought this culture to Europe. This Tengrist concept probably continued to exist after the christianization of Bulgars but evolved in something a bit different as today`s vampires.

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

I was speculating this but according to that link (Thank you Annihilus ) Alkarısı is entirely different entitiy in other parts of Turkic world ,not a demonised Umay
(actually i m happy to hear that because I love Umay )
http://merakedilenler.wordpress.com/tag/al-basti-ve-al-karisi-nedir/

It was a popular horror story because I heard lots of hearsays from my father about Alkarısı, popular in Elazığ Villages I guess..

umpir--vampir?
That was really interesting..because almost every culture (Chinese included )has vampires except Anatolia i was wondering the reason..We have ghoul (gulyabani) ,karakoncalos ,ghost ,ginny ,but never heard vampire though we live close to Balkans

[Onur]

The basic purpose of shamans as to cleanse evil spirits, evil-eyes and cure diseases by using herbalism. These good shamans was named as "Kuday". But there was also evil shamans who sends evil spirits to influence the minds of people, prepare harmful herbal mixes to poison people and stuff like that. These evil shamans was named as "Umpir".

I read it like this from some article before.

[Cannabis Sativa]

possess people esp pregnant or women who recently gave birth ?

Yes, the Al Karısı thing possess/tries to possess women who recently gave birth but not only humans. They also possess female horses and female hunting dogs which recently gave birth. Creepy stories though but Al Karısı seemed to my grandma in the form of her uncle. The Al Karısı is in fact a female variation with some shapeshifting features.

[Anusiya]

The basic purpose of shamans as to cleanse evil spirits, evil-eyes and cure diseases by using herbalism. These good shamans was named as "Kuday". But there was also evil shamans who sends evil spirits to influence the minds of people, prepare harmful herbal mixes to poison people and stuff like that. These evil shamans was named as "Umpir".

I read it like this from some article before.

"Umpir". Interesting. Does this ring a bell, anyone? :rolleyes:

[Su]

"Umpir". Interesting. Does this ring a bell, anyone? :rolleyes:

It sounds like "Kumpir". I love kumpir so much:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_9n33QhaVj4c/TOn3isDojDI/AAAAAAAAABQ/TBFHJNkfCfM/s1600/IMG_0157.JPG
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/034/6/f/Kumpir_by_AhmetSelcuk.jpg
http://www.iskurun.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/kumpir_monu_mini.jpg
http://www.kumpir-neumünster.de/images/header1.png
http://www.alanyaholidays.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/kumpir.jpg

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

Here are our sacrifices ..to Spirits I guess:D

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

Funny.

This is our mythology..like elves ,trolls,gnomes ,goblins ,Thor,Odin ,Zeus,Shinigamis ,Santa ,Ginny etc..
Every culture has their own set of supernatural creatures ..